anyone who has done the auto>manual swap

[DriftMonkey]

first of all i need to know y the auto brake pedal only has one sensor connecting to it while the manual brake pedal has two...then i need to know where the sensor is that connects to the clutch pedal....do i need to find this in a junk yard or something or should it be in the car dangling somewhere....or should i not worry about it and start the car without depressing the clutch

[chickenmanq]

I'd go check out vehicles in the wrecking yard.  As for the one wire vs two wires, I don't know.  Are you sure you got the same year pedal set?

With the clutch pedal sensor, just straight connect it and never have to push the clutch in to start the car again.  Much nicer.

[drift freaq]

well if you look in the Faq section I do cover these things. For your sake though I will tell you here .
First off as far as your brake pedal goes do yourself a favor and just cut the auto brake pedal down to size with a air powered die grinder or dremel tool. Its a lot simpler to do than dropping the steering column and putting in the manual brake pedal.
Second on the clutch pedal do not worry about the clutch lockout . I did cut my auto brake pedal and I did not hook up the clutch lockout. Yes I can start my car without depressing the clutch pedal. It does not bother me. Fact is normally I do not start my car without depressing the clutch pedal anyways. That just comes naturally from always driving clutch cars.
If you have a S13 you can use your auto ecu and not install a 5 speed ecu . Again I did it with my car and it works fine no codes are being thrown. In a S14 due to OBDII you will have to put the 5 speed ecu in . Otherwise it will throw a code.
Ok hope this gives you more insight on your conversion and congrats and good luck.
You will be surprised at how much different your car will feel.

[DriftMonkey]

thnaks man i got everything up today except i did not wire everything to gether yet....drift freaq i got a question....but ill pm about it

[tastyratz]

has anyone actually wired in the clutch lock though? i dont want to bypass it and for me to be allowed to run my car at the track it has to fully work. i also plan on installing an auto start for manuals and want the lockout just in case.

[meme]

i also did the 5spd swap on my 98. just cut the brake!. i dropped the steering rack and everything. got the brackets loose. but couldn't wiggle it out. i also bought the new manual brake assembly with all sensors. and now it is just on the work bench.
i have the auto start from when it was a manual. it still works after the conversion

[SimpleS14]

sorry to hijack this thread....


but what kind of tools are needed for this swap if someone was to do it in a house garage?

right now all I can think of is a pilot bearing remover, rachet, sockets and jack w/ jackstands. Is there anything else I can use to really get my car up there? Right now my car is lowered and the jack can only do so much.

[meme]

i had to use an air gun to remove the flywheel bolts. other then that i use alll hand tools.
for the pilot remover; don't get the 1/2 one. get one thAT is smaller. i used a sliding hammer with a threaded thing at the tip. the more yyou thread it in the wider the tip gets.
you can use about half of your auto trans bolts. the bottom ones need to be longer. replace the starter bolts too.

[mjjstang]

I used shish kabob spears or what ever you call em, bend the tip to a 90 degree angle and use 2 of them, put one on top and one on bottom of bearing, pull and it slid right out. but yes i believe air gun is a critical tool.

Oh and I didnt have to drop the column to do mine, ended up cutting it anyway when it was out of the car becuase the guy who sold it to me gave me one from a 180 sx and didnt clear the column,

[SimpleS14]

i had to use an air gun to remove the flywheel bolts. other then that i use alll hand tools.
for the pilot remover; don't get the 1/2 one. get one thAT is smaller. i used a sliding hammer with a threaded thing at the tip. the more yyou thread it in the wider the tip gets.


well I don't have access to an air gun...do you happen to have a picture of this hammer? Just so I can look out for it when I go buy some tools.

[meme]

it is a basic sliding hammer. can also be used for body work. most sliding hammer kits don't come with this adapter i talked about. one end is threaded inside and the other is expandable. the lower you thread the adaptor the wider it gets. the tips are bent so it will pull the pilot out.

i tried other things and on my other car the pilot was kind of hard to get out with bent screw drives etc..

[SimpleS14]

I found the sliding hammer and pilot bearing remover at Autozone...thanks for the info. NOW I have one more question (for now)....

how do I get my car high enough to drop the tranny? Right now my car is lowered and my jack can only go so high...should I just use some ramps?

[dvdevo]

this high works...


http://img74.photobucket.com/albums/v225/tehdvd/Resize_of_IMG_0183.jpg

[SimpleS14]

cool cool...thanks for the pic....I guess I have to go buy some ramps now...I must do this swap by next week :)

[the head]

the delco high lift jackstands are nice if you don't like ramps i did the SR/manual from KA/auto swap in my garage

[Jeff240sx]

I did the auto -> stick swap. The flywheel bolts are on pretty tight, and with factory loc-tite, too. But it's not impossible to remove them. I just used a 1/2" drive ratchet, which are about 2x as long as 3/8" and 2x the torque.

Honest question: Do ramps really take the car up high enough? The tallest ramps I see are 7.5" or so. I also plan on using a creeper under the car. Will there be enough room, or would anyone recommend just getting a jack?
-Jeff

[FastBack 240]

My car doesnt clear ramps so im assuming no one else's will either. I have to lift the car with a hydro jack and then slide them under and my car isnt even dropped. Like 2 inch from stock height.

[SimpleS14]

My car doesnt clear ramps so im assuming no one else's will either. I have to lift the car with a hydro jack and then slide them under and my car isnt even dropped. Like 2 inch from stock height.

So your saying that I'm SOL with the ramps because my car is lowered? :-/ What would I use instead?

[blitz240a]

Just put some 2x4's in front of your front tires and pull your car up on them, this should allow enough clearance for the jack and I just used jackstands to hold it up, plenty of room.

[SimpleS14]

hmmm.....don't really have *cheap* access to some 2x4's :-/ I will figure something out.


Do I need to get a clutch alignment tool?

[dvdevo]

yes you do need a clutch alignment tool. hehe go visit some stores for some 2x4.. back of groceries stores and waht not..

[tastyratz]

there are ramps for lowered cars, check raretrick.com me, id just drive on some 2x4s first.

[SimpleS14]

I can't check out an online store since I need to do this ASAP. :-/ Aight...got the tools...do I need a jack when dropping or installing the tranny?

[blitz240a]

The tranny is pretty heavy, you will need a jack and probably someone to hold it while you line it up, then just slide the jack forward.

[Jeff240sx]

You will need a) a good friend and a jack with a TON of height, or b) a jack with a TON of height, and a jack with a tranny pan on it. I was the good friend on my tranny swap. I just benched the thing. It only weighs around 120#, and the manual is significantly less, 70# or so. Make sure you can press around there, or your friend can, or just buy a pan. The trans is also over 1.5 feet tall, so you really do need a lot of lift.
-Jeff

[FastBack 240]

Just go to the back of any machine shop and bust up a pallet thats in the garbage and use that wood to act as a ramp for the ramp.

[SimpleS14]

You will need a) a good friend and a jack with a TON of height, or b) a jack with a TON of height, and a jack with a tranny pan on it. I was the good friend on my tranny swap. I just benched the thing. It only weighs around 120#, and the manual is significantly less, 70# or so. Make sure you can press around there, or your friend can, or just buy a pan. The trans is also over 1.5 feet tall, so you really do need a lot of lift.
-Jeff


tranny pan eh? how much do those run?


So your saying just put this pan on my jack before lifting the tranny?