94 Maxima calipers on s13 with 00-03 sentra se-r rotors

[ProjNightshade]

I have searched almost all day trying to find the right answer to the right question. I am trying to swap in 94 maxima front calipers for the stock s13 front calipers. I pulled off the stock ones today just to check fitment and the rear edge of the maxima caliper was hitting the back of the stock s13 rotor. there was absolutely no clearance, and no way could a pad ever fit in the space. before people start to flame, I know I need different rotors than stock s13 ones. thanks.

no where in anyone's posts did it discuss how the rotors clear and fit into the maxima calipers, be it the 1995 altima rotors or the 2000-2003 sentra se-r rotors. how do i ensure the caliper will clear the rotor safely so that I can use these brakes?

I realize this is probably an old issue (judging by the age of what my search discovered), but I'm only familiar with s14 and z32 brakes. I havent bought much less even studied the sentra rotors, so I have no idea if the rotor hat is smaller or what. someone please help me figure this out so my project can move forward. thanks so much.

[Nikeboy355]

Why are doing this?... Why not just run good pads with the stock calipers...
That's what I'm doing and it works great... Hawk Blues...

I guess if you really want to use those calipers you can also consider trying Altima rotors... IIRC they are close to the JDM 180SX rotors...

[xDATx]

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX_Performance_Modification/Brake_Upgrades

[ProjNightshade]

you either didnt understand or i wasnt clear enough. I have read that article. that's where my question comes from. what fixes the caliper offset issue? a spacer, or the rotor?

I'd really like to talk to someone who's done this, thanks.

I am doing this b/c its semi upgrade from my stock calipers that are practically frozen

[NismoSilvia270R]

ive got them.
maxima caliper
altima rotor

IT BLOWS.

the bias is way off. my rear calipers dont even get used.

oh and to answer your question, the maxima caliper is a different offset than the s13 ones.

that is why you need the altima rotors to *FIX* the offset.

pros
larger diameter rotor for more braking torque
bling size (in a 15in wheel)

cons
pads dont seat with 100% of the surface. search my s/n for maxima overhang
terrble braking characteristics

You can try putting s14 rear calipers on there too to balance it out a little. ive got some but never put them on. and also go 5lug and tell us whether the maxima rotors work....

all i know is that my front tires a getting eaten up by the bad brake bias.

your welcome for the heads up/i told you so

[NismoSilvia270R]

Why are doing this?... Why not just run good pads with the stock calipers...
That's what I'm doing and it works great... Hawk Blues...



^^^^^werd

msglngth

[ProjNightshade]

so what do i need to fix the caliper offset other than the altima/sentra rotors? thats all i want to know. no one has answered my question in 6 posts.

how did you fix the offset issues. rotor or spacer or both? please walk me through it.

thanks for the info. sentra rotors fix the overhang if you want them. I also have a set of s14 rears, so I'll see if they work better. this isnt my daily, so its more of an experiment on multiple levels.

[DOOK]

I think the guy a few up has the same problem and stated:

rotors to *FIX* the offset

so, if that guys answer isn't good enough, put it on and figure it out then do a writeup for the rest of zilvia :D

[ProjNightshade]

I guess my brain is to analytical. I still want to know what makes the rotors fix the offset. haha.

and I suppose a writeup is in order. autozone here I come.

[NismoSilvia270R]

I guess my brain is to analytical. I still want to know what makes the rotors fix the offset. haha.

and I suppose a writeup is in order. autozone here I come.

youre SLOW.

i clearly stated the answer to your question.

THEN

someone else pointed it out to you.

THE ALTIMA ROTORS AND THE 240 ROTORS ARE NOT THE SAME OFFSET!

THEREFORE THE ALTIMA ROTORS ARE THE CORRECT OFFSET TO MAKE IT WORK!

THEY ARE FLOATING CALIPERS ANYWAY, THEY ADJUST ALOT OF THE OFFSET BY THEMSELVES.

fvck

I even told you what to search zilvia for. you have an account. i KNOW you have a search button.

use the thing

[jilo]

holy shit, rotors can fix a brake caliper offset like this......
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/jilo860/rotor.jpg

fish man says "you need to go to automotive school n get skills"
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/jilo860/fish024-1.jpg

[NismoSilvia270R]

holy shit, rotors can fix a brake caliper offset like this......
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/jilo860/rotor.jpg

ms paint thanks you for your support.........


niice.


heres a thread on it where i even drew on a REAL picture the fitment and overhang issues.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=93487
read it focusing on the maxima stuff, NOT THE 180sx stuff

[ProjNightshade]

youre SLOW.

i clearly stated the answer to your question.

THEN

someone else pointed it out to you.

THE ALTIMA ROTORS AND THE 240 ROTORS ARE NOT THE SAME OFFSET!

THEREFORE THE ALTIMA ROTORS ARE THE CORRECT OFFSET TO MAKE IT WORK!

THEY ARE FLOATING CALIPERS ANYWAY, THEY ADJUST ALOT OF THE OFFSET BY THEMSELVES.

fvck

I even told you what to search zilvia for. you have an account. i KNOW you have a search button.

use the thing

In the thread title I clearly stated I wanted to use 2000-2003 sentra se-r rotors. Not to mention jilo just touched on what I wanted to know. I wanted the difference in hat size. But anyway, I appreciate everyone's help, but there is no need to be a dick about it. I did search, but no one ever spoke about the difference in hat offset, just the fact that "it worked". I wanted more than that. but whatever, thanks anyway.

my search never yielded that picture or thread

[NismoSilvia270R]

In the thread title I clearly stated I wanted to use 2000-2003 sentra se-r rotors. Not to mention jilo just touched on what I wanted to know. I wanted the difference in hat size. But anyway, I appreciate everyone's help, but there is no need to be a dick about it. I did search, but no one ever spoke about the difference in hat offset, just the fact that "it worked". I wanted more than that. but whatever, thanks anyway.

my search never yielded that picture or thread

yea i forgot the link. edited.

sorry bout that. lotta thick people round.
wouldve been nice to know you wanted hat sizes.

eh, altimas work. overhang. terrible bias with s13 rears.

your gonna measure them like you said, so that should be good.

if you want them for performance definitely check on larger rear calipers and/ propvalve.

the fronts lock up too easily, while the rears barely scrape the rotors.

[ProjNightshade]

like i said before, im gonna run s14 rears. I'm going to autozone when I get off work to pick up the sentra rotors and if you can measure yours we can compare notes. supposedly sentra se-r rotors dont have the overhang problem. we shall see this afternoon.

[bardabe]

what do you mean the Bias is off??? I had to take my Z32 rotors and put my Stockers back on (Yes silvia Brakes / 180sx brakes) im currently running the Sentra SE-R rotor and it's fine to me no over hang or anything. been running it like that for a few weeks now. the brake Bias dosent seem off to me I can slam the brakes and it will break even.

[NismoSilvia270R]

what do you mean the Bias is off??? I had to take my Z32 rotors and put my Stockers back on (Yes silvia Brakes / 180sx brakes) im currently running the Sentra SE-R rotor and it's fine to me no over hang or anything. been running it like that for a few weeks now. the brake Bias dosent seem off to me I can slam the brakes and it will break even.

maxima/altima setup:

my fronts lock up easy and the pitting/rust (from sitting for a while) in my rear rotors havent worn off at all.

sometimes i leave the ebrake up a notch or two.

[ProjNightshade]

what do you mean the Bias is off??? I had to take my Z32 rotors and put my Stockers back on (Yes silvia Brakes / 180sx brakes) im currently running the Sentra SE-R rotor and it's fine to me no over hang or anything. been running it like that for a few weeks now. the brake Bias dosent seem off to me I can slam the brakes and it will break even.

could you post some pictures of your setup? what brand of rotors and pads are you running? what year sentra rotor are you using? did you need to run any spacer behind the rotor to get it to clear the caliper? I'm assuming you didnt since you have 180sx calipers.

sorry for the barrage of questions, I'm just trying to pick up the rest of the parts asap.

[ixfxi]

is it just me, or is this thread full of confusion and mis information

i mean, i dont really understand why anyone would waste time with shit like this, when the z32 brake upgrade exists and is so easy to attain.

maxima? jesus.

we're talking brakes here, get parts off of a sportscar and set them up PROPERLY with the master cylinder, so that your bias is correct. people seem to think that brake upgrades are just quick and easy, temporary things. this is your car, these are your brakes - they should work 100% accurately 100% of the time, period. therefor, just do the Z brakes and do it ALL.

anyway.. the wiki page is interesting, i didnt know newbies have everything handed to them nowadays. but, its full of a lot of confusing misinformation.

either way.... Z32 is where its at.

[ProjNightshade]

thanks..already have them on my s14. I already did it all, including the rear brakes and ebrake. I'm trying something new. If you have nothing to contribute or cannot clear some issues up, please don't be a dick.

I may not have many posts, and may not have been on zilvia for half my life, but I'm not stupid. please don't talk down to someone who you know nothing about.

[jilo]

niice.


heres a thread on it where i even drew on a REAL picture the fitment and overhang issues.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=93487
read it focusing on the maxima stuff, NOT THE 180sx stuff
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/nismosilvia270r/overhang.jpg

bahhhhh my mspaint skills are a real as it gets..... jk, good schematic. its always easyer to explain things when you can see em.

[axiomatik]

why are you hell-bent on going with sentra rotors when it has been state that the altima rotors work?

[NismoSilvia270R]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/nismosilvia270r/overhang.jpg

bahhhhh my mspaint skills are a real as it gets..... jk, good schematic. its always easyer to explain things when you can see em.

hahaha, no sarcasm intended in my previous post.

[cotbu]

The brake booster has some adjustment!
If your rear caliper aren't functioning, check the calipers for malfunction.
The "180sx brake upgrade" is not a huge upgrade from stock. What might be the problem is that the previous car owner/s may have been cheap with maintenance and made adjustment to the pedal, booster, or e brake cables.

My situation 3yrs ago, brakes sucked F&R, adjusted the booster rod, brakes better. Upgrade Fronts to 180sx, then the rears sucked(RR seized), Upgrade rears to S14 bias was off. Why? Brake booster adjustment. SFR

[ProjNightshade]

because I dont like the idea of pad gap. even though it may work, I'm just not a fan. It has also been stated that sentra se-r rotors work.

I went ahead and bought the rotors yesterday, so we shall see if they work when I find the time this weekend

[bardabe]

could you post some pictures of your setup? what brand of rotors and pads are you running? what year sentra rotor are you using? did you need to run any spacer behind the rotor to get it to clear the caliper? I'm assuming you didnt since you have 180sx calipers.

sorry for the barrage of questions, I'm just trying to pick up the rest of the parts asap.

2002 Sentra SE-R (yes the one with Brembo's)

[ProjNightshade]

is that the plain se-r or the spec v? I bought rotors from an se-r, not the spec v. but I did buy 2002 rotors.