Who owns an s12?

[I'maDoMe]

I am still kinda new to the site so i don't know if this was a topic or not but who on here owns an s12? I want one sooo bad i don't know why either. They just appeal so....i don't know i just want one. I am not trying to buy one right now i just want to know who on here owns one.

[breakindrifts]

I think like 2 guys on this entire forum do.

Go here. http://www.club-s12.org/

There cool little cars, but after market sucks for the chassis/suspension.

[I'maDoMe]

Damn thats all lol alright thanks.

[deadpirate]

i got one..club s-12 is your best bet...but yea..there is ZERO aftermarket support.

[!Zar!]

There are more than two.

Henry has one and it looks nice.

A few other guys do. I just don't remember their names/SN's.

[yarou]

Haha, thanks Mel. I have one and yeah, the s12 is sort of an enigma as it was never really popular and aftermarket for it is practically nonexistent. Club-s12 is the best place to find info, it's probably the best s12 forum (and even then info is hard to find and people barely post). My advice would be to go there and seek the info you need if you're really interested, and know what you are getting into if you plan on getting one. If you like it just for looks, corollas look similar, have a TON of aftermarket, and info is everywhere.

[Matej]

I've always wondered why the S12 never became as popular as the AE86. Doesn't the S12 even have multi-link suspension?

[deadpirate]

early models had solid rear ends, while the later models had independent rear suspension. if im wrong yarou please correct me

[yarou]

Yeah, 84 ca20e models have solid rear ends while 84 ca18et models, and all models between 85-88 have independent rears which makes use of (GAY GAY) trailing arms.

[johngriff]

I've owned a couple. Fun little cars. I offered up the aftermarket support, but neigh but a few s12 owners can rub two pennies together. Which sucks.

Engine: Anything that will go into an S13.

Suspension:
Front S13 Coils w/s13 LCA's, but get adjustable LCA's because the legnth is off, and will sit you with some pretty wicked gross camber/caster/bump.

Rear There are couple 510 guys around that make custom coil overs, you can use one of these in the back. Get it stiff as hell, pick your tire/wheel/offset combo (for life), then slot the trailing arm brackets until you have the desired stance, weld the slots.

R31 House makes an adjustable rear trailing arm. Its about $1800, which is easily 7 times the value of an S12.

In short: If you want to race an S12, learn how to weld

[IIIXziuR]

Henry has one of the cleanest S12's by far. Awesome shape

[oldschoolsilvia]

Haha what to say what to say?...... They all filled in the gaps I guess ^^^^ :cool:

[chmercer]

http://www.datrats.com.au/silvia12_gr5-LZ20B.jpg

illtastic

the model for like all boso cars. haha

that coke bluebird in the corner is sick too
80s aero tuning is so awesome

[arkive43]

my father in law has an s12 running in good condition. im thinkin about buyin it. but i have too many cars allready and can barely mod my s13 lol....ive been eyeing these pana sports 15x13 -65 offset for it. but buyin a house > cars at least for me right now.

[worr20]

I have an S12 with a KA24DE in it. fun

[arkive43]

I have an S12 with a KA24DE in it. fun


thats what i wanted to do. i took alook at the stock motor and scratched my head lol....

was it a pretty easy swap?...what drive shaft/motor mounts...etc?

[tacotacotaco]

i had an s12 before i came up on my s13. Mine talked. Never could pass smog so drove the piece of shit for a year and a half on expired tags. Woke up one morning and it was gone. Probably towed. Used to have to push start it. Sucked for the cars that parked behind and infront of me when i parked on the streets off campus. Fun car beat it lose it move on theyre like battle tanks

[oldschoolsilvia]

i had an s12 before i came up on my s13. Mine talked. Never could pass smog so drove the piece of shit for a year and a half on expired tags. Woke up one morning and it was gone. Probably towed. Used to have to push start it. Sucked for the cars that parked behind and infront of me when i parked on the streets off campus. Fun car beat it lose it move on theyre like battle tanks

Haha yeah they will run forever, my CA had 292,xxx miles on it when I pulled it. But it was still running strong :bigok:, mine also has that Talking Warning system.

[oldschoolsilvia]

thats what i wanted to do. i took alook at the stock motor and scratched my head lol....

was it a pretty easy swap?...what drive shaft/motor mounts...etc?

S13 mounts will work in the S12, one way to do the driveshaft http://www.club-s12.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13950&hl= (http://www.club-s12.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=13950&hl)=

Or you can use the S12 transmission with the the KA bellhousing on it, that is if the car is manual...... That way you wont have to peice together a driveshaft, the S12 one will work.

[tacotacotaco]

My 85 was nearing 368k and i was using it to commute about 150 freeway miles to and from school. Having this car you knew who your friends were when they were excited to ride and push the "Jank mobile"
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1261/dsc00227lv4.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9996/dsc00231ss4.jpg

[johngriff]

Having this car you knew who your friends were when they were excited to ride and push the "Jank mobile"

LOL john,

Pretty much.

"I want an S12 So badly"

Ummmm No. Dont do it. If you want a g ride to rally demolition derby on the streets, then get an s12 from a police auction or something. But your life will be MUCH MUCH MUCH better if you dont even get into the S12 realm.

[tacotacotaco]

Oh yeah the s12 is the best chassis to roll to the most suspect events and parties in the middle of nowhere and never have to fear that it may be robbed.

[oldschoolsilvia]

haha wow your S12 beats my mileage :eek:

[WONTONnPHO]

Must be nice to have a street legal CA18DET in Cali =D

[yarou]

Must be nice to have a street legal CA18DET in Cali =D

The turbo models came with CA18ET, single cam, it's a POS.

[sLiDewAys]

haha i love how people always get those engines mixed up.

s12 kicks ass, yarou yours looks prety dope. any more pics of it.

ive been thinking of picking one up for the past couple months for a legal turbo daily so i can finnish my m30.

in more ways than one the s12 and the m30 are exactly alike in terms of suspension.

you dont have to go the ca18et route either, they offer a vg30e which can be easily converted to vg30et, just take the one out of the 88 300zx turbo and swap it in. as long as the engine is newer than your car you wont have a problem.

modifying the ca18et could be a hasstle. they dont make parts for it BUT you just just use safc, fmic any sr turbo or garette gt w/ custom log manifold and full exhaust. could be a fun project.

for related topics pertaining the vg30et visit z31forums.com

[I'maDoMe]

I like the way that they look and i think that it would be fun to work on. I don't want an 86 because the money i don't have for one at the time lol. but i want something that will make a lot of people ask me what the hell is that. I have never heard of an s12 until i saw one in a Modified Mag i think last month with an rb20 in it. It was soooo clean. I understand that it is gonna be a pain in the ass but i won't mind.

[sLiDewAys]

yeah I understand what your saying. i do too like the way the s12 looks.

im just plain tired of the 240sx. all my friends have them and whenever someone finds out i " DIRFT" they assume thats what i drive. though i have driven them in the past i no longer drive them now.

the whole JDM crazy the s13 and s14 is in is nuts, the market is HUGE for parts and support if you have a 240sx.

but I've seen it all, and repeated 20 times. You get these cocky ass guys get on the forum bagging everything else when what they have really isn't that unique. its the same shit we've already seen.

i say get the s12/200sx and make the best out of it. at least you didn't follow the bandwagon and i appreciate your want for more rather than being the average joe SCHMO.

just becasue others havent had success in the past doesnt mean you will follow in their steps. do your maintenance and get rid of the high milaged engine asap for something more to your liking.

like said above by another memeber follow club-s12.org.

good luck

[TurboDuck]

http://www.datrats.com.au/silvia12_gr5-LZ20B.jpg

illtastic

the model for like all boso cars. haha

that coke bluebird in the corner is sick too
80s aero tuning is so awesome

Looks like a Transformer imo ... hehehe

[deadpirate]

i picked up my s12 for free..its a piss ugly car, but the look of it has seriously grown on me
some dude was giving it away cuz it didnt run..motor was seized from no coolant. so i took it home, and started tearing into it.
started out white, with dents..now its black, with less dents. all i got left is a motorswap which is coming in august, suspension, get my tires mounted. get the passenger seat bolted in. custom exhaust, and replace the windshield. then i will be hitting it up at the track.

[yarou]

Haha, sad truth is that not many people will actually ask you what it is. I've gotten a lot of compliments from people who think that it's a corolla. Here are a couple pics as requested, I have no recent ones since it's been sitting around waiting for the KA and the rest of the shit to go in.



http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/032507%20s12/2s13.jpg (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/032507%20s12/2s13.jpg)

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/ks2.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f102/nenhenry/enk05.jpg

[ixfxi]

I am still kinda new to the site so i don't know if this was a topic or not but who on here owns an s12? I want one sooo bad i don't know why either. They just appeal so....i don't know i just want one. I am not trying to buy one right now i just want to know who on here owns one.

Welcome to Zilvia, friend!

With that out of the way, I will introduce you to one of Zilvia's fine GEMS.........................

me.

At one point in time, I was known as old_s13. Nowadays I am known as ixfxi. I guess you could say that I'm kinda like Darth Vader who used to be known as Anakin (minus the emo bullshit over princess whatever her name was). Actually, its more like how Tupac eventually decided to just be called Makaveli.

Now, with that outta the way.. lets use a famous feature on Zilvia, called SEARCH. A quick search, combined with the keyword old_s13 will bring you to this gem of a post:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=568833&postcount=23

This one and single post, should answer any and every question you have about the 200SX. Once you know the above, theres really no reason to ever ask any other questions.. ever.

Thanks and welcome to Zilvia.

old_s13 aka ixfxi aka... russ's father.

[deadpirate]

^^ nice man...

really good info*hint-sarcasm*

dont be a prick for no reason. people have different tastes..


to the OP...go with what you want. the s12's are very capable, when done right. check out club-s12.org, do research. get your info together, and then decide

[ixfxi]

do research. get your info together, and then decide to buy a newer car, not an s12, because that piece of shit is old and was designed during a decade when many car designers were high on cocaine because of the fuel crisis.

i complete and whole-heartedly agree. ;)

[deadpirate]

dude...what ever man..i honestly hope the kid does by an s12, its called different.

instead of being like 98% of the s13's s14's and buying origin bodykits, super deep dish wheels, and slammed so low to the ground you cant get out of your own driveway, he wants something different. whats wrong with that exactly??

[hsoj_v]

I can post pics too Henry...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/joshRocks/Nissan%20Silvia%20PS12/4-10-07S121.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/joshRocks/Nissan%20Silvia%20PS12/4-10-07S122.jpg

:bigok:

[chris300zr]

semi trailing FTMFSSL!

[X 350GT X]

http://www.forumshawaii.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=315280&highlight=nissan

check that out.

[SimpleSexy180]

hsoj_v, cute car

msglength

[hsoj_v]

hsoj_v, cute car

msglength

Haha, thanks.

I had front end damage on my S12 like that before... gots it fixed though.
I forgot who's S12's those are but I swear i've seen them before.

[sLiDewAys]

i just had this dope ass vision.

some 16x9 front 16x10 rear. pulled and nicely flared rear with pulled front super flush . bout -3.0 camber front and rear. home depot front lip. black car on silver or gold wheels.

dont ask why i just had a vision.

if i do end up buyin a s12 that will most likly be the plan.

[yarou]

I can post pics too Henry...




Haha, you can whore pics with me anytime Josh :naughty:

I'm jealous of your mk2 mudflaps and your solid rear.

[backroadtouge]

supprised noones posted the picture of the s12 with the supercharger poking out of the hood...

[cgguy]

Here's my S12....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/cgguy/CIMG0421.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/cgguy/CIMG0422.jpg

[ixfxi]

dude...what ever man..i honestly hope the kid does by an s12, its called different.

instead of being like 98% of the s13's s14's and buying origin bodykits, super deep dish wheels, and slammed so low to the ground you cant get out of your own driveway, he wants something different. whats wrong with that exactly??

nothing.

more nice cars for me to chose from

might as well list up the MA70 MKIII Supra up here, as a nice car for people to buy. Z31 300ZX.. another king classic of when cars were made great, the 80s BABY.

think about it. sit in the car. look at the shitty blocky interior, and realize what a poor job manufacturers were doing back then. they really were on crack.

[deadpirate]

ok...sit back a minute and think...most cars take a few years to design and develop correct? now think about this also, if the s13 was released in 89...that means development began in 86-87..possibly earlier. so...are you saying that the s13 is a poorly designed car?? how about the FC??? or the trueno???

[johngriff]

Development on the S12 probably started somewhere in the 70's. Yes the S12 is kind of a bucket. I like the ones that are fixed up, but the rear suspension is such an ENORMOUS DETRACTING FACTOR, that you really cant take it seriously.

The S13 was a revolution in OEM designing, and won awards for the dashboard setting a new industry standard, doing away with the "blocks". It was also very highly acclaimed for utilizing a full multi-link rear suspension on a car that was less than 20k.

FC= The beta version of a car released to the public, using trailing arms, poor weight balance and a hand grenade in place of an engine. Trueno?? Sick hangers on of Nostagilc JDM. S12>AE86

[ixfxi]

Development on the S12 probably started somewhere in the 70's. Yes the S12 is kind of a bucket. I like the ones that are fixed up, but the rear suspension is such an ENORMOUS DETRACTING FACTOR, that you really cant take it seriously.

The S13 was a revolution in OEM designing, and won awards for the dashboard setting a new industry standard, doing away with the "blocks". It was also very highly acclaimed for utilizing a full multi-link rear suspension on a car that was less than 20k.

FC= The beta version of a car released to the public, using trailing arms, poor weight balance and a hand grenade in place of an engine. Trueno?? Sick hangers on of Nostagilc JDM. S12>AE86

dude ide take a ae86 ANYDAY over a fuckin s12.

if its one thing toyota did right with the corolla, is make the rwd version back then. because the fwd flavor that is still being made today, is just castrated.

[hsoj_v]

i just had this dope ass vision.

some 16x9 front 16x10 rear. pulled and nicely flared rear with pulled front super flush . bout -3.0 camber front and rear. home depot front lip. black car on silver or gold wheels.

dont ask why i just had a vision.

if i do end up buyin a s12 that will most likly be the plan.

lol, I had a home depot front lip when I first bought my car. It looked crazy-stupid.

[deadpirate]

i do agree that the solid rear axle made for a shitty suspension set up on the earlier s12's. however the later models have Independent rear suspension.

[johngriff]

i do agree that the solid rear axle made for a shitty suspension set up on the earlier s12's. however the later models have Independent rear suspension.

Its really not Same IRS when comparing it to cars like the S13-15, Skyline, 300zx, New GTO etc. Its trailing arms. This means that the more the rear suspension is compressed and loaded up the more negative camber the wheel gains.

Dump the car? 10 degrees negative. Suspension travel? Negative camber. It is a failure.

But trailing arm S12 with IRS is better than the AE86 anyday. The mere fact you can Bolt an SR, CA, KA, VG, RB, VH into it is enought call it a done deal. My Old 88 Coupe weighed in at 2300 wet w/full interior.

[yarou]

i do agree that the solid rear axle made for a shitty suspension set up on the earlier s12's. however the later models have Independent rear suspension.

I'd honestly rather have solid rear than trailing arms. And as for the s12 with the supercharger popping out of the hood, I don't believe that ever came to be. It was planned, pics were taken with it on the motor, the hole was cut in the hood, but I think the owner changed his mind in the end. It was NeedCAforS13's project

http://myspace-503.vo.llnwd.net/01337/30/50/1337880503_l.jpg

http://myspace-053.vo.llnwd.net/01337/35/03/1337883053_l.jpg

[silverarrow27]

Funny. I think I would rather see a turbo up there instead of a supercharger. His s12 looks sweet though!

[pEcHeP]

I quote Family Guy "A boat is a boat, Lois, but a box could be anything. It could even be a boat!". I had an s12. Now I have an s13. Not to hurt the s12 reputation, but more people jumped on the s13 bandwagon, so if you are new to working on the s chassis then there's more help here than club-s12.

[hsoj_v]

Sean's car is dope! Where'd he run off to!?

But seriously though... I've been apart of Club-S12 for almost 4-5 years now and I have to say that the forums are slower than before. It seems to me the dedicated owners sold off they're s12 to some newbie and that newbie gives up due to lack of aftermarket and kills of the Forums. So not much dedicated members in the club anymore but there are a few like henry, indy, colin, marvin, keith, joel, arro myself and a bunch of others.

[chmercer]

98% of the s13's s14's and buying origin bodykits, super deep dish wheels, and slammed so low to the ground you cant get out of your own driveway

nobody has that

at least not on zilvia

mostly its ebay aero and 17s in bad widths and not very low

[I'maDoMe]

I own a 97 Kouki but i have always had a thing for the old model cars.
Yeah i have made up my mind...and I am gonna go find me a S12! YEAH! I love the way that they look don't care that it resembles an ae86. I love it and they look sooo sexy with Konig Rewinds awwww...Yeah i am gonna start researching and find me one hopefully by next month. Thanks for all the info and to those of you who posted your S12 they were sexy even if it was kinda busted lol. I guess on Club S12 is where i can find out most of what i can do to it. Once again i appriciate all the help, advice and opinions. Hopefully soon i will post pics of my own S12. Usually i don't give up on things that easily. If i did i wouldn't own my 240. It took 8 months to get it lol.

[stinky_180]

S13 rear subframe bolts onto the S12 with modification. you know what that means....

[ixfxi]

S13 rear subframe bolts onto the S12 with modification. you know what that means....

that you end up with an old 89-94 suspension setup on an even OLDER S12 chassis?

wow, i can already imagine it.. how glamorous

[deadpirate]

it means more suspension options...dude...seriously...why are you so negative????

[!Zar!]

S13 rear subframe bolts onto the S12 with modification. you know what that means....

It forms Voltron!

[yarou]

It forms Voltron!

Fuck, I see potential here.

http://animeoltre.altervista.org/robot/voltron.jpg

[schoolzin]

Crap, maybe I need to get one of these just to add another rare bird into my garage, my S13 needs an older brother and my NX Hardtop feels like an outsider. It's time to bring the family closer. :naughty:

Seriously though, if you have the patience and the resources to get a hold of an S12, then go for it. I'm with the approach that being different and going old school is where it's at.

[ixfxi]

It forms Voltron!

hahahaha fuckin AWESOME. dude this response was good enough for me to just about spitup some soda, brilliant.


deadpirate> it means more suspension options...dude...seriously...why are you so negative????

Honestly, I dont know. I think when I was a young ixfxi, my father never spent much time with me. Mom passed away when I was very young. Giving birth to me was just too much of a shock to her system. She sacrificed her own life... for MY future.

I love my mother for that, and even till today - I respect that women. Now I live with a fear, an emptiness... that I will never find a woman so tender, so loving - so loved. She was a saint.

Dad was a surgeon. He used to spend long hours at the hospital. I never really knew my father until I got older. During my teens, I despised him. Always going around with sleezy nurses, treating them like trash. He was an alcoholic, and a drug addict. I have no pity for him, no sympathy. He's an empty shell of a man.

Sorry for the long story, I just wanted you to understand where my negativity comes from.

Thanks for listening.

[Farzam]

I almost bought an S12.

It was pretty fucking mint.

Then I realized that i'd be stuck with it forever...and shuddered.

And for all the people doing it to be original...you're losers.
Doing stuff to not be like other people is just like doing stuff to be like other people.
Just do what you want to do.

[silverarrow27]

...And for all the people doing it to be original...you're losers.
Doing stuff to not be like other people is just like doing stuff to be like other people.
Just do what you want to do.

Makes so much since :bigok:

[johngriff]

Got any Pics of that rear subframe bolting in?

[oldschoolsilvia]

Got any Pics of that rear subframe bolting in?

Im with him.

[Jpooks_S13]

http://www.v6-s12.com/images/Wallpapers/S12_Rally_01.jpg


rally it :)

[jilo]

i always liked how this one looked, but yea those cars are pieces of shit. looks (can) good from the outside but terrible everywhere else.
first thing i think when i see a dash/interior like that is "god somethings going to short and make everything not work" the all electronic dash's of the 80's were the biggest abomination ever put in cars.

but this one still looks god tho, transformers style. or maybe voltron.....
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/jilo860/yoyo_yy_s121.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/jilo860/sexy12.jpg

[chmercer]

dont hate man. z31 digital dash was totally steezin.

http://www.az-zbum.com/images/84ae.digdash.jpg

[WONTONnPHO]

dont hate man. z31 digital dash was totally steezin.

http://www.az-zbum.com/images/84ae.digdash.jpg

That dash is pretty sexy :aw:

[deadpirate]

that dash is pretty badass

[jilo]

no, that dash is scary because it will break and leave you with shit.
as far as im concerned, the only way to make a good functional digital dash is just the numbers you need, not a bar graph for your rpms that you cant read. although there is a digital rpm guage on there, it still just reminds me of an old lesabre or something.

[Farzam]

I like digital dashes but only on a car I don't think i'm keeping forever.

[Wannabe1989]

Here's my s12 :2f2f:

[JDMS1lv1a]

Looks dope^^

[Malik]

there's really no need to revive this thread.

[jared420sx]

Anime hentai mfs own s12s


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[jared420sx]

And sad boys


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[oldman_KA_T]

s12s arent that bad with a little money thrown at them. ka swap is cheap and easy. you dont have to worry about drift tax. funny thing is they werent ever really popular even in japan. i guess because there were so many other alternatives and it was just kind of mediocre. i only really like the looks of the hatch though. can make it look like a psuedo-corolla. just dont expect to do anything crazy without fabbing one-off parts.

[dorkidori_s13]

Anime hentai mfs own s12s

And sad boys

thats actually a pretty shitty thing to say... a lot of the S12 guys ive met do some really amazing things with their cars. lots of custom built parts and really neat adaptation. were those comments really necessary?

[FaLKoN240]

I know exactly what he's referring to. I would look for the pics of the itasha s12 but I'm at work.