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onehalfasia
06-26-2007, 07:09 PM
Would this smic(arc 4"deep 9.5" wide) support 300whp with good ducting...it arrived today, and is smaller than i expected, about the size of a lunch box.

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I'm gonna order an s13 sr20clip and have been gathering parts. So far i have an s15 turbo, and the smic. I plan to order the tomei exhaust manifold, an apexi head gasket, atleast 555cc injectors, probably apexi FC for management, possibly the boost control from them too(if needed). Thats basically the ideas i have thus far. I'm gonna need a clutch, and possibly flywheel. I was thinking spec for the clutch. I havnt read about maf sensors, sounds like the z32 is a popular choice? I'd like an oil cooler and upgraded radiator, fans, and thermostat for reliability, also divided turbo outlet, downpipe, and exhaust. I'm gonna continue to search and read but ideas would be appreciated.


So basically reliable well balanced 300whp, is this possible without cams and a good tune?

boost_it7
06-26-2007, 07:20 PM
You're changing the turbo, injectors, and MAF sensor.... a tune should definitely be on your to-do list. If you're gonna do everything else on the motor, why not do a cheap front-mount. Just hack up a core from a diesel truck and make custom end tanks. The whole thing will cost you like $200 or less, and you should be able to get that from selling the ARC piece.

onehalfasia
06-26-2007, 07:30 PM
You're changing the turbo, injectors, and MAF sensor.... a tune should definitely be on your to-do list. If you're gonna do everything else on the motor, why not do a cheap front-mount. Just hack up a core from a diesel truck and make custom end tanks. The whole thing will cost you like $200 or less, and you should be able to get that from selling the ARC piece.

true, a tunes defiantly to-do, i figure the side mount would yield > response though. would the arc support 300whp safely? what would be the pros of a fmic. For the arc i'm gonna probably fab ridiculous ducting, even if it meant dremiling the bumper or something.

onehalfasia
06-26-2007, 10:03 PM
how about the apexi super suction kit, is the kit worth it, i was planning on an apexi filter so just wondering.

fliprayzin240sx
06-26-2007, 10:36 PM
Fuck a sidemount, itll be way pass efficiency after 10 psi with the S15 turbo. Its not gonna cool down the charged air enough, no way around it, go get a FMIC.

This is what I would do if you have the money right off the bat.
Get the engine, do the usual stuff (fresh plugs, thermostat, also depending on the condition, replace the oil pump and water pump too), clean the engine, swap in a Apex'i Headgasket and rocker arm stoppers.

Swap in the engine, maybe run a fmic if you can get one during the swap. Downpipe, test pipe and exhaust. Intake, run a pepboys special filter, doesnt really matter in the long run.

Get your manifold, injectors, turbo and power fc d-jetro. Install those and get the setup tuned. With proper tuning, it should hit 300. You wont need the zmaf if your gonna run the power fc d-jetro since itll get rid of the stock maf. You can then get a custom intake done up that will eliminate the stock maf.

DeatschWerks
06-27-2007, 06:37 AM
550's will be plenty big for 300whp... no need to go larger unless you think you will want to upgrade for more power later. In fact 480's and a walbro will get you to 300whp.

onehalfasia
06-27-2007, 09:19 AM
Fuck a sidemount, itll be way pass efficiency after 10 psi with the S15 turbo. Its not gonna cool down the charged air enough, no way around it, go get a FMIC.

This is what I would do if you have the money right off the bat.
Get the engine, do the usual stuff (fresh plugs, thermostat, also depending on the condition, replace the oil pump and water pump too), clean the engine, swap in a Apex'i Headgasket and rocker arm stoppers.

Swap in the engine, maybe run a fmic if you can get one during the swap. Downpipe, test pipe and exhaust. Intake, run a pepboys special filter, doesnt really matter in the long run.

Get your manifold, injectors, turbo and power fc d-jetro. Install those and get the setup tuned. With proper tuning, it should hit 300. You wont need the zmaf if your gonna run the power fc d-jetro since itll get rid of the stock maf. You can then get a custom intake done up that will eliminate the stock maf. is the reason for sidemount inefficiency location...cause its basically gonna have direct air flow as a fmic would.

boost_it7
06-27-2007, 09:33 AM
You can't just think about the air getting to the intercooler. You also have to consider what the air is gonna do once it gets past the core. Where's it gonna go? You would need ducting to get air away from the core after it passed through the cooler, otherwise you'll have a high-pressure area right behind the cooler, and air won't pass through it. This would probably also necessitate making some kind of vent in the bodywork.
Seriously dude, don't bother with side-mount. If you're worried about response, then like i said, just make your own end-tanks for a front-mount, and do really short IC piping. If you've got the fab skill to make ducting for your side-mount, then end-tanks shouldn't be a problem.

onehalfasia
06-27-2007, 09:40 AM
You can't just think about the air getting to the intercooler. You also have to consider what the air is gonna do once it gets past the core. Where's it gonna go? You would need ducting to get air away from the core after it passed through the cooler, otherwise you'll have a high-pressure area right behind the cooler, and air won't pass through it. This would probably also necessitate making some kind of vent in the bodywork.
Seriously dude, don't bother with side-mount. If you're worried about response, then like i said, just make your own end-tanks for a front-mount, and do really short IC piping. If you've got the fab skill to make ducting for your side-mount, then end-tanks shouldn't be a problem. has anyone every ran an e-fan with intercooler? I'm gonna make a vent in the bumper as well, with excellent ducting, could the size(4"x9.5") support 14-15psi of boost?

Koopa Troopa
06-27-2007, 09:53 AM
That sidemount is plenty fine.. It actually looks like a Z32 intercooler...

boost_it7
06-27-2007, 10:47 AM
has anyone every ran an e-fan with intercooler? I'm gonna make a vent in the bumper as well, with excellent ducting, could the size(4"x9.5") support 14-15psi of boost?

Turbonetics does this with their G35 turbo kit, but even then, it's a front-mount. You can make it work, and the IC may be able to support that flow, but it seems like you're putting a lot of work into this overly complicated setup when you could save money with a simpler front-mount.

Btw, making a vent in the bumper is only gonna help air get TO the IC. Again, you will need a way for air to get AWAY from it as well, such as a hood vent, with ducting going from the intercooler to the exit vent as well.

onehalfasia
06-29-2007, 06:00 PM
i'm bumping the post cause the intercooler arrived, and seems smaller than i expected, about the size of a lunch box, i would post pics but my batteries arent charged, a few of you have said it would be efficient for 300whp

Flybert
06-29-2007, 06:15 PM
If it heat soaks with the type of driving you do, ditch it and get a FMIC. If it doesn't, keep it. Simple as that. Everyone lives in different climates so it might work for you but not for others. It's not going to hurt to try it out so do it and tell us what you find out on your own. Run good gas when your testing it out and don't be so paranoid about stuff like this.