aftermarket s14 kouki tails fogging

[Full-Lock]

i bought some of the kouki tails for the s14, the led ones. its been getting pretty humid lately and the passenger tailight is begining to fog up. no water, just a lot of fog and moisture. the center and driverside light are fine. is there any easy fix for this? could i just put new silicone on it? i hope i dont have to go searching for a driverside led taillight

thanks

[OptionZero]

if you want you could pry off the lense and wipe it down, then re-seal it with silicon and ensure that its a good fit

the risk is that the lense is plastic and might crack when you pry it off, which is what happened to my front corners when i was painting them

either way it shouldn't be any harm to re-seal them with new silicon

IIRC S14DB said they sell that gunk at the nissan dealership for a few bucks, so call up your local place...if not, just hit up any ol' autoparts store

if it's still a problem, blame A Spec Logan =P

[ixfxi]

dont use silicon, its not the right adhesive for sealing automotive lamps.

[Full-Lock]

thanks guys..i think im going to try that stuff optionzero suggested. anyone else?

if anyone happens to have the right side led kouki tail they are trying to get rid ofl let me know

[axiomatik]

plus silicone eats automotive paint.

[exitspeed]

Don't people suggest putting the lights int he oven on a low temp to soften the adhesive that's currently on the lights?

That way they are easier to separate.

ixfxi, if that is not the right kind to use, why not enlighten him (zilvia)?

[ixfxi]

Don't people suggest putting the lights int he oven on a low temp to soften the adhesive that's currently on the lights?

That way they are easier to separate.

ixfxi, if that is not the right kind to use, why not enlighten him (zilvia)?

because its not my job to take care of other peoples cheap shiet. let the makers come on here and make suggestions. besides, they're mass produced. dont think repair, think EXCHANGE. think costco, target, wallmart.

[silviapilot]

I think one of the additional problems causing fogging is that LED's do not generate any heat that could dry out moisture that gets in. If moisture is accumulating just from air cooling and warming, then there needs to be a better air hole on the backside of the lamp assembly. Those tiny snorkel tubes you see on oem lamps are for evaporation of moist air when the air warms up inside the lamp assembly. And an incandescent lamp actually helps the evaporization process. But trying to seal the lamp completely will only create more moisture.

[Frosty_spl]

maybe get a hairdryer to evaporate the condensation.

[exitspeed]

because its not my job to take care of other peoples cheap shiet. let the makers come on here and make suggestions. besides, they're mass produced. dont think repair, think EXCHANGE. think costco, target, wallmart.

It's not your job to post on Zilvia either.

This community is here to help each other out. If everyone had that attitude Zilvia wouldn't exist.

Most would consider you a pro at what you do since you've been doing it for so long. If I was in the same boat, and had the answer for someone I'd help out. I'm sure people would appreciate it.

That's just me though. :cool:

I like your comments most of the time, but you view is still stank.

[kanagawa_kouki]

shoulda got Wisesquare LED tails, then you wouldn't have that problem.

[nrg]

silviapilot is correct, it just need a vent hole and it will fix the problem. find the vent on the rear of it and see if it's cloged. if not, just drill a new one somewhere.

Wisesquare LED are the same as the one you find on ebay. all from the same company with a rebrand.

[chmercer]

the wisesquare ones are identical to the ones people have on here. identical

anyway i dont know why mike is being a hardass about giving out info but butyl rubber is usually what is used to seal lamp housings

[ixfxi]

It's not your job to post on Zilvia either.

This community is here to help each other out. If everyone had that attitude Zilvia wouldn't exist.

Most would consider you a pro at what you do since you've been doing it for so long. If I was in the same boat, and had the answer for someone I'd help out. I'm sure people would appreciate it.

That's just me though. :cool:

I like your comments most of the time, but you view is still stank.

06-27-2007 12:44 PM all your Dickhead faggots are belong to us.
06-27-2007 12:55 PM dont be dick man
06-27-2007 02:26 PM thats not too cool. we are here as a forum to help eachother when we can. not to say well i could help but i wont. -s13coupeluv
06-27-2007 07:34 PM why are you bbeing stuck up?? what goes around comes around

oh tear, look at everyone crying.

fucking children, its pathetic how emotional you guys are.. like women.

you bought MASS PRODUCED parts. what do you do when something goes wrong? often times, products like the above are not serviceable.

how are they built? how are they sealed? what construction techniques did the manufacturer use? is it worth attempting to repair? will that void my warranty - is there even a warranty?

i mean, you guys can be so fucking pathetic. its like buying a greddy knockoff product and then turning back to greddy for advice.

you bought the product, you take the risk and responsibility in owning it, repairing it, replacing it - period. got a problem, go back to the vendor or whoever the fuck sold it to you and have it replaced, simple as cake.

as soon as you sit down and try to be mr-tech and do a repair, you take on the risk of possibly damaging and destroying the lamp - period.

[topsecretgold]

i feel you, my front corner light fills up with moisture and i recently took it off, dumped out a gallon of water lol, and the harness was flooded so i have to get a new one.

[exitspeed]

06-27-2007 12:44 PM all your Dickhead faggots are belong to us.
06-27-2007 12:55 PM dont be dick man
06-27-2007 02:26 PM thats not too cool. we are here as a forum to help eachother when we can. not to say well i could help but i wont. -s13coupeluv
06-27-2007 07:34 PM why are you bbeing stuck up?? what goes around comes around

oh tear, look at everyone crying.

fucking children, its pathetic how emotional you guys are.. like women.

you bought MASS PRODUCED parts. what do you do when something goes wrong? often times, products like the above are not serviceable.

how are they built? how are they sealed? what construction techniques did the manufacturer use? is it worth attempting to repair? will that void my warranty - is there even a warranty?

i mean, you guys can be so fucking pathetic. its like buying a greddy knockoff product and then turning back to greddy for advice.

you bought the product, you take the risk and responsibility in owning it, repairing it, replacing it - period. got a problem, go back to the vendor or whoever the fuck sold it to you and have it replaced, simple as cake.

as soon as you sit down and try to be mr-tech and do a repair, you take on the risk of possibly damaging and destroying the lamp - period.

Blah. No one is denying the fact that he bought crap taillights.

The point is, that you can help him with your expertise, yet you choose not to and just be a dick. It's like talking to a damn wall with you. :bash: :mephfawk: :bigok:

Chmercer, who's usually a dick, is at least a dick who helps out and answers questions when he knows the answer.

[ixfxi]

Blah. No one is denying the fact that he bought crap taillights.

The point is, that you can help him with your expertise, yet you choose not to and just be a dick. It's like talking to a damn wall with you. :bash: :mephfawk: :bigok:

Chmercer, who's usually a dick, is at least a dick who helps out and answers questions when he knows the answer.

so whats the problem here?

is it that the manufacturer doesnt want to step up to the plate, and offer a replacement for their product? lets look at the facts:

1) its not my product
2) i know nothing about this particular product, and how its assembled
3) its not my problem
4) its mass produced

so, why doesnt the vendor do the right thing, and step forward.. offer a post, a repair, a recall, or a replacement? a reputable company would take responsibility, stand behind their product & craftsmanship.. either offer a warranty, or resolve the matter.

you guys really dont understand how old-fashioned customer service WORKS, do you? its called loyalty to a brand. you know a shop owner, you buy from them, support them - and in return, you pay for not only a good product, but also service of that product, for years to come.

now we have generation-a, which i like to call generation-ASSHOLE. nowadays, people have no care where they buy anything, it could be assembled on another planet, as long as the product is cheap and will get the job done for X amount of days, years, etc. is there any support? do you even speak to a human being when ordering this product, or is it ordered via online kart with credit card (because like most people nowadays, you're probably in some kind of debt because society is falling apart and buying more useless shit than they can afford).

assholes today dont buy anything made in the US anymore, because most americans are fucking JERKS who are interested in one thing: profit. in the old days, made in america used to mean something good - now it means RUN. but either way, consumers DONT pay extra to support local businesses who pay taxes and fees to STAY in business. getting any type of work done in the US gets more and more expensive. all consumers care is getting something cheap, regardless how short it lasts. APC is a fabulous example that completely proves my point, period.

fuck that shit. i support good natured individuals who take care of the people that take care of them. if anyone here is getting their feelings butt-hurt, its because you're two-faced motherfucking band-wagon bastards who are quick to change loyalty just because you're so fucking selfish, all you care about is getting what YOU want when you want it.

stop asking for a handout, its pathetic.

[articdragon192]

Sad to say, but the man makes sense.

[exitspeed]

so whats the problem here?

is it that the manufacturer doesnt want to step up to the plate, and offer a replacement for their product? lets look at the facts:

1) its not my product
2) i know nothing about this particular product, and how its assembled
3) its not my problem
4) its mass produced

so, why doesnt the vendor do the right thing, and step forward.. offer a post, a repair, a recall, or a replacement? a reputable company would take responsibility, stand behind their product & craftsmanship.. either offer a warranty, or resolve the matter.

you guys really dont understand how old-fashioned customer service WORKS, do you? its called loyalty to a brand. you know a shop owner, you buy from them, support them - and in return, you pay for not only a good product, but also service of that product, for years to come.

now we have generation-a, which i like to call generation-ASSHOLE. nowadays, people have no care where they buy anything, it could be assembled on another planet, as long as the product is cheap and will get the job done for X amount of days, years, etc. is there any support? do you even speak to a human being when ordering this product, or is it ordered via online kart with credit card (because like most people nowadays, you're probably in some kind of debt because society is falling apart and buying more useless shit than they can afford).

assholes today dont buy anything made in the US anymore, because most americans are fucking JERKS who are interested in one thing: profit. in the old days, made in america used to mean something good - now it means RUN. but either way, consumers DONT pay extra to support local businesses who pay taxes and fees to STAY in business. getting any type of work done in the US gets more and more expensive. all consumers care is getting something cheap, regardless how short it lasts. APC is a fabulous example that completely proves my point, period.

fuck that shit. i support good natured individuals who take care of the people that take care of them. if anyone here is getting their feelings butt-hurt, its because you're two-faced motherfucking band-wagon bastards who are quick to change loyalty just because you're so fucking selfish, all you care about is getting what YOU want when you want it.

stop asking for a handout, its pathetic.

Ok I agree with you 100% on what you are saying as I worked in retail for over 7 years. Trust me, I know exactly where you are coming from.

Now, as a business man, it's also good customer service to help someone out even if they didn't purchase from you. He's not asking for free taillights from you, he's asking an expert what he should do to fix a bad purchase. Maybe you can gain this person as a client in the future, because "Hey, that guy really helped me out when I need it.". That's how I think. If I buy something and find out I'm not happy with it, and I got what I paid for, but someone that sells what I should have bought maybe gives me some advice....guess who I'm going to run to for my next purchase? That's right, the business owner/sales person that lent me a hand or some free advise and gave me that great customer service.

[Flybert]

Are you serious? Why would he help a person who bought a defective product from a competitor? He would just be giving away information that would hurt his business.

I bought china brand tails for my coupe and lighting sucks ass, but I knew that before I got them. I'm not going to IXFXI to tell me how to fix my tail lights to make them brighter. I'll figure that shit out on my own or pay him to modify them.

People that run small businesses don't get bigger or even stay afloat for that matter by giving away their services for free. He's not just a regular member of the community, he's a businessman and should be treated as such.

[ixfxi]

06-29-2007 03:21 PM "all your Dickhead faggots are belong to us." Was said by a premie 9/10. I wonder who... hahaha. Stupid kids trying to act like they are street justice. They fail at life. +1 for you. - Zar/Mel
06-29-2007 08:47 AM "Booo hooo look at the neg rep I got". Why don't you cry about the neg rep some more.
06-28-2007 08:11 AM Pimp shit! Cheap lights sucks. "WilloW"
06-27-2007 11:57 PM fuck em up mike!! -----dousan

Whether you like it or not, some people will understand - some wont. Cant please everyone, and the ones you can are the ones you should.

Think about it, there are people on this planet who are kind and appreciative, and dont mind supporting my business philosophy and beliefs. Then there are those that dont.

[Full-Lock]

haha

i know my lights are cheap

all i wanted was an answer on how to fix my problem. not a bunch of shit cluttering this topic up. my question was answered, ill try and use those methods.

next time ill be sure to get wisesquare, hahaha

[chmercer]

damn can i get a cliffsnotes mike.

im guessing its something about how ppl would rather buy leaky ebay tails than 1500 dollar mega led shit.

[nrg]

06-27-2007 12:44 PM all your Dickhead faggots are belong to us.
06-27-2007 12:55 PM dont be dick man
06-27-2007 02:26 PM thats not too cool. we are here as a forum to help eachother when we can. not to say well i could help but i wont. -s13coupeluv
06-27-2007 07:34 PM why are you bbeing stuck up?? what goes around comes around

oh tear, look at everyone crying.

fucking children, its pathetic how emotional you guys are.. like women.

you bought MASS PRODUCED parts. what do you do when something goes wrong? often times, products like the above are not serviceable.

how are they built? how are they sealed? what construction techniques did the manufacturer use? is it worth attempting to repair? will that void my warranty - is there even a warranty?

i mean, you guys can be so fucking pathetic. its like buying a greddy knockoff product and then turning back to greddy for advice.

you bought the product, you take the risk and responsibility in owning it, repairing it, replacing it - period. got a problem, go back to the vendor or whoever the fuck sold it to you and have it replaced, simple as cake.

as soon as you sit down and try to be mr-tech and do a repair, you take on the risk of possibly damaging and destroying the lamp - period.

the point of this thread isn't about the quality of the product he bought.
they're just tail lights made for a 16 year old car. There's no need to expect "ferrari" quality out of them.

my gut feeling says you're the owner/founder of clearlights.com? if so, that's cool. but IMO your stuff are overpriced lol. you don't have to be here and act like you're the god of automotive lighting. Did you go to college and get a Master in making automotive lighting? hahah Or are you making them out of your bedroom of your mother's house?

so whats the problem here?

is it that the manufacturer doesnt want to step up to the plate, and offer a replacement for their product? lets look at the facts:

1) its not my product
2) i know nothing about this particular product, and how its assembled
3) its not my problem
4) its mass produced

so, why doesnt the vendor do the right thing, and step forward.. offer a post, a repair, a recall, or a replacement? a reputable company would take responsibility, stand behind their product & craftsmanship.. either offer a warranty, or resolve the matter.

you guys really dont understand how old-fashioned customer service WORKS, do you? its called loyalty to a brand. you know a shop owner, you buy from them, support them - and in return, you pay for not only a good product, but also service of that product, for years to come.

now we have generation-a, which i like to call generation-ASSHOLE. nowadays, people have no care where they buy anything, it could be assembled on another planet, as long as the product is cheap and will get the job done for X amount of days, years, etc. is there any support? do you even speak to a human being when ordering this product, or is it ordered via online kart with credit card (because like most people nowadays, you're probably in some kind of debt because society is falling apart and buying more useless shit than they can afford).

assholes today dont buy anything made in the US anymore, because most americans are fucking JERKS who are interested in one thing: profit. in the old days, made in america used to mean something good - now it means RUN. but either way, consumers DONT pay extra to support local businesses who pay taxes and fees to STAY in business. getting any type of work done in the US gets more and more expensive. all consumers care is getting something cheap, regardless how short it lasts. APC is a fabulous example that completely proves my point, period.

fuck that shit. i support good natured individuals who take care of the people that take care of them. if anyone here is getting their feelings butt-hurt, its because you're two-faced motherfucking band-wagon bastards who are quick to change loyalty just because you're so fucking selfish, all you care about is getting what YOU want when you want it.

stop asking for a handout, its pathetic.

The manufacturer of these lights are sold to third party retailers. They can buy it and claim it's theirs for all they want.
vendor doesn't need to help. As most vendors have policy to protect themselves from problems like this. If you sold this product, would you want it back in your office? The lights still work perfectly like it should, just because the owner is picky about a small leak; you have to spend your saturday solving this problem.

To everything else you said; you're an idiot. You mention all that for no absolute reason. Remember I mention vendor policy? It's the reason why mass market sellers exist and survive today. they buy it in bulk, resell it; hope it doesn't come back. If it does, they send it back out and get a new one.

By the way you use your subject in this post, you make it sound like exitspeed made and sold the product to the OP. Funny how you have to mention your style of business if most of your post.

BTW, Recalls of products only happen if something is wrong with a product that can injure a humans life.

The OP knows:
1: his product isn't the god made.
2: you said a bunch of crap that did nothing to this thread
3: he can't get any help from you. you only help people that buys your product.

funny how you have to post the "reps" you got. And the only positive ones are from your friends.

[ixfxi]

fucktard> the point of this thread isn't about the quality of the product he bought.

Actually, it IS about the quality of the product.

Let me ask you a simple question: what is the most important part of an automotive light? The answer is that the light WORKS. Lights have to pass rigorous testing to ensure that they can pass environmental, corrosion, vibration, and optics testing. But then again, shit made overseas typically doesnt have strong quality control - hence the reason we have a bunch of shit-quality stuff being sold in the aftermarket. I'de like to see ONE person step forward and tell me they've never seen an Altezza taillamp have condensation/water leakage problems. Then, lets compare that to stock taillamps and headlamps - and how few of those have such problems.


they're just tail lights made for a 16 year old car. There's no need to expect "ferrari" quality out of them.

Thats right, the majority of people DONT expect "ferrari" quality from any of the parts they put on their car(s), right? Hence the reason low-cost wheels exist, right? Sorry bud, if we used your fucked up mentality, WORK and HRE would be out of business.

There's a certain # of individuals who put knockoff cheap shit on their car(s), then there are those who put quality on their car(s). You decide whats best for you. If you want to limit yourself to cheap shit, thats YOUR CHOICE.


The manufacturer of these lights are sold to third party retailers. They can buy it and claim it's theirs for all they want. vendor doesn't need to help. As most vendors have policy to protect themselves from problems like this. If you sold this product, would you want it back in your office? The lights still work perfectly like it should, just because the owner is picky about a small leak; you have to spend your saturday solving this problem.

^ BAM. This bullshit attitude is EXACTLY what people of today have to deal with when they buy cheap shit from irresponsible people in business who have NO care about their customers and have no intent to stand behind their product or work. Hey buddy, you dont want to stand behind your shit, then fuckoff. Costco does. Costco will fuckin replace ANYTHING because they are reputable, doesnt matter if they're the mfg or not. They have a good company policy, and anyone that wants to sell product through their chain should make sure they can not only provide the volume, but also provide a fairly solid product (or backit up with replacement).

----

my gut feeling says you're the owner/founder of clearlights.com? if so, that's cool. but IMO your stuff are overpriced lol. Did you go to college and get a Master in making automotive lighting? hahah Or are you making them out of your bedroom of your mother's house?

I'm actually the co-founder of go fuck yourself, peaceout.

[chmercer]

PS. mike. HRE wheels are some of the worst quality wheels on the market, bad example. Anything that comes out of intro generally sucks huge dick. Works are good though.

[ixfxi]

PS. mike. HRE wheels are some of the worst quality wheels on the market, bad example. Anything that comes out of intro generally sucks huge dick. Works are good though.

nyea please....................................

you cant even afford 1 fastener on an HRE wheel, let alone 1 HRE wheel, let alone a set of HRE wheels. its pretty obvious you have absolutely NO experience in what you're talking about...

HRE makes awesome.

now, why dont you go style your hair and go put on some more womens jeans..... ;)

[Full-Lock]

haha

he had HRE's

and they do suck as bad as my leaky tailzz

[ixfxi]

haha

he had HRE's

and they do suck as bad as my leaky tailzz

i am sure he bought them new, right? afterall, theres a lot of 240sx owners that are out there, that decide to put 6000 dollar wheel/tire setup on a 1000-200 dollar car, right?

afterall, a quick search on youtube shows:
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=hre+wheels&search=

"FERRARI 360 MODENA SPYDER WITH HRE WHEELS"
"Norwood Twin Turbo Ferrari Testarossa TR"
"1200 BHP Twin supercharged 1974 Chevy Corvette"
"1997 Ferrari F355 Spider"
"Lingenfelter C6 ZO6 1000 HP Twin Turbo Corvette Chassis Dyno"
"Fast Supra, 8.45 sec..."
"Twin Turbo 350Z at Great Lakes Dragaway -- 6/16/06"

But I did find this:
No Videos found for 'hre wheels 240sx'

Hmmmm... I wonder why,

http://www.hrewheels.com/gallery_uploads/customer/zoom_Porsche7.jpg

I guess your right guys, HRE sucks. I wish my car was nothing like that porsche shown above.

[Ian]

So what...Dai Yoshihara has Motegi wheels on the former HKS S15...

what's your point?


You can put shitty wheels on any car

[holaback]

HRE is fuckin a expensive garbage yuppie wheel.

[chmercer]

wow liek hres are ill
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5891/img0081aep1.jpg

they were shit

weighed like a million pounds

the inner barrels are not clearcoated unless you pay extra (like what wheel company dosent clear coat the barrels) so the shit gets all pitted

cheap chrome, bad wheel prep, chrome comes off etc. search for this if you dont trust me

banned in vrl, imsa, pca, etc.

terrible customer service

shit is always bent, they never balance, because the shit is all bought from intro, which is crap, so they have no control over the QC

the wheels arent even forged lol. they say they are though.

if you dont believe any of this by all means search for reviews

But you will still buy them because they charge 2k dollars a rim or whatever. louis vitton marketing at its finest. bow to the capitalism.

for real fn01rc are better quality than anything from iforged hre jline dtmkreuz or anything else from intro

edit-
this is what a real porsche looks like
http://www.rauh-welt.com/RWB-964GT-R.jpg
bro can go take his 12 piston calipers over to the monday night pluckers meet or the 3rd annual "euro tune show n shine" or to his stockbroker job on fridays. i heard he went 100mph one time on his way to work.

[WERDdabuilder]

edit!!!!!!!!!

[nrg]

fucktard> the point of this thread isn't about the quality of the product he bought.

Actually, it IS about the quality of the product.

Let me ask you a simple question: what is the most important part of an automotive light? The answer is that the light WORKS. Lights have to pass rigorous testing to ensure that they can pass environmental, corrosion, vibration, and optics testing. But then again, shit made overseas typically doesnt have strong quality control - hence the reason we have a bunch of shit-quality stuff being sold in the aftermarket. I'de like to see ONE person step forward and tell me they've never seen an Altezza taillamp have condensation/water leakage problems. Then, lets compare that to stock taillamps and headlamps - and how few of those have such problems.


they're just tail lights made for a 16 year old car. There's no need to expect "ferrari" quality out of them.

Thats right, the majority of people DONT expect "ferrari" quality from any of the parts they put on their car(s), right? Hence the reason low-cost wheels exist, right? Sorry bud, if we used your fucked up mentality, WORK and HRE would be out of business.

There's a certain # of individuals who put knockoff cheap shit on their car(s), then there are those who put quality on their car(s). You decide whats best for you. If you want to limit yourself to cheap shit, thats YOUR CHOICE.


The manufacturer of these lights are sold to third party retailers. They can buy it and claim it's theirs for all they want. vendor doesn't need to help. As most vendors have policy to protect themselves from problems like this. If you sold this product, would you want it back in your office? The lights still work perfectly like it should, just because the owner is picky about a small leak; you have to spend your saturday solving this problem.

^ BAM. This bullshit attitude is EXACTLY what people of today have to deal with when they buy cheap shit from irresponsible people in business who have NO care about their customers and have no intent to stand behind their product or work. Hey buddy, you dont want to stand behind your shit, then fuckoff. Costco does. Costco will fuckin replace ANYTHING because they are reputable, doesnt matter if they're the mfg or not. They have a good company policy, and anyone that wants to sell product through their chain should make sure they can not only provide the volume, but also provide a fairly solid product (or backit up with replacement).

----

my gut feeling says you're the owner/founder of clearlights.com? if so, that's cool. but IMO your stuff are overpriced lol. Did you go to college and get a Master in making automotive lighting? hahah Or are you making them out of your bedroom of your mother's house?

I'm actually the co-founder of go fuck yourself, peaceout.

it's not about the quality. it's about solving a problem he encountered with his tail light. which in this case is ventilation. I have a few friends with these tails and there's zero problems with them. I guess he didn't get so lucky and he's trying to resolve it. a simple fix i might add. I've seen OEM lighting assembly get condensation. clear/cover headlight housing turn yellow. Was that all because of bad quality control, crappy product, or just typical wear and tear?

The answer is that the light WORKS.
I'm pretty sure the lights still WORKS fine.

Thats right, the majority of people DONT expect "ferrari" quality from any of the parts they put on their car(s), right? Hence the reason low-cost wheels exist, right? Sorry bud, if we used your fucked up mentality, WORK and HRE would be out of business.
once again, read what i wrote. I didn't say majority of product manufacture. I said the tail lights. Thank you captain obvious.

What about equal length manifold? I've seen every single brand out there CRACK under intensive usage on the track. peakboost, full race, lovefab, hks, tomei, megan, ebay, etc. Nothing is perfect and shit happens. some of those manufacture do provide lifetime replacement.

Still haven't figured out the reason for this thread? I'll say it once again because you're stubborn; not about quality.
Look at all the threads asking for help with their motors and repairs. Was it bad quality control from nissan? User error? Why dont you go into those threads and flame about their quality of products then. You'll soon realize how stupid you'd look.

When people say things are good or bad, it's all personal opinion. Just because everyone and their mom has it; doesn't make it the BEST.

mainevent212, EXACTLY!!! There are tons of people here "tracking" their cars are crappy 100 dollar A-Tech (mb motorsport) rims. Anyone posted threads of them cracking/shattering on the track?

[Ian]

That wasn't my point...


I was simply saying that you can put rotas on a race car too...the point is, just because expensive cars rock them, doesn't make them really good wheels.

[ixfxi]

blahblahblah

rather than post a bunch of shit that doesnt relate to this thread...

...why not get back on topic, and post a solution?

i did, it was to RMA the lamp and repair it.

you didnt, you're sitting here kicking up dust.

now, all i said was dont use silicon, period.. not the right sealant for anything lighting related. dont agree, fine. use silicon, shove it up your ass.

honestly, this forum has and always will be a place for me, as an individual, to relax and chit-chat with the homies.. those that like me, those that hate me.. doesnt matter. zilvia is one of the few forums that exists thats fun to actually mess around on. i'm not sitting here shoving my products down your throat, i just occasionally drop some knowledge if i feel i can offer something of use... the rest of the time, its all joking and fun.

so, you wanna talk shit.. you wanna get personal, bring it - just dont cry when i cut you to pieces like i do the rest of the noobs. otherwise, please......... shut the fuck up and get this thread back on topic.

[ixfxi]

That wasn't my point...


I was simply saying that you can put rotas on a race car too...the point is, just because expensive cars rock them, doesn't make them really good wheels.

and I agree. Price should never be the main factor as to whether an item is good or bad. However, the majority of the time.. good quality parts cost more, its just obvious.

the issue here, if you ask me.. is whether or not the mfg is standing behind their product. THAT, is the issue. if this guy has problems, mfg should repair of replace it. i just DONT think its cool that people offer "questionable" repair techniques online to this guy, without fully understanding how these lamps are constructed. especially when its just a LOT easier to have them replaced. its just a matter of ethics.

[Ian]

I don't think EBAY companies do QC and warranties

[nrg]

rather than post a bunch of shit that doesnt relate to this thread...

...why not get back on topic, and post a solution?

i did, it was to RMA the lamp and repair it.

you didnt, you're sitting here kicking up dust.

now, all i said was dont use silicon, period.. not the right sealant for anything lighting related. dont agree, fine. use silicon, shove it up your ass.

honestly, this forum has and always will be a place for me, as an individual, to relax and chit-chat with the homies.. those that like me, those that hate me.. doesnt matter. zilvia is one of the few forums that exists thats fun to actually mess around on. i'm not sitting here shoving my products down your throat, i just occasionally drop some knowledge if i feel i can offer something of use... the rest of the time, its all joking and fun.

so, you wanna talk shit.. you wanna get personal, bring it - just dont cry when i cut you to pieces like i do the rest of the noobs. otherwise, please......... shut the fuck up and get this thread back on topic.

This thread was already finished on page one. Are you really that dumb? I'm sitting here putting you in place. i'm tired of the way you run your mouth. I've been bringing it since my second post; how oblivious are you?

Oh yea, who the hell is he going to RMA his tail lights to? ebay? someone he privately bought on zilvia, newegg.com?

and I agree. Price should never be the main factor as to whether an item is good or bad. However, the majority of the time.. good quality parts cost more, its just obvious.

the issue here, if you ask me.. is whether or not the mfg is standing behind their product. THAT, is the issue. if this guy has problems, mfg should repair of replace it. i just DONT think its cool that people offer "questionable" repair techniques online to this guy, without fully understanding how these lamps are constructed. especially when its just a LOT easier to have them replaced. its just a matter of ethics.

there you go again, the OP didn't come here and make a thread about "where to get his tail lights replaced". He asked for a simple solution and we told him.

The manufacture "ISN'T" standing by their product, they dont give two shits who buys it; it's built in bulk and sold to third parties. Can you tell me who manufactured those tail lights? HAHAHAHAH
You make it sound so easy. Please tell the OP where to get ONE PIECE of the tail light replaced? mater of ethics... please...

Plus, how hard is it to understand how automotive lights are constructed? 2-3 piece sealed ABS plastic.

Like I said before, there are tons of topics where users gave other members "questionable repairs techniques" and most have solved their problems. You should go in each of those and run your mouth just like you did in this thread.

Mr. P.H.D. in Automotive Lighting

[Ian]

Uhh, I don't know why you think you're "putting him in his place" nrg, but you're not.


Mike knows what the fuck he's talking about when it comes to automotive lighting...That's like trying to tell MJ how to play basketball

[CKAMC]

someone delete/lock this thread already.

this shit should be for pm only, don't care who you are (bitching between nrg and mike)

:lockd: :lockd: :lockd:

[nrg]

Uhh, I don't know why you think you're "putting him in his place" nrg, but you're not.


Mike knows what the fuck he's talking about when it comes to automotive lighting...That's like trying to tell MJ how to play basketball

of course he does, but he just dont know when the stfu. he just runs his mouth on useless nonsense. perfect examples in this thread.

the OP can't do anything he said. No RMA, no calling manufacture, no replacement, etc; so he went on bitching about it

he didn't even replied to most of what i said in my post and he quoted it lol.

[Farzam]

I want to rip my eyes out.

[exitspeed]

06-29-2007 03:21 PM "all your Dickhead faggots are belong to us." Was said by a premie 9/10. I wonder who... hahaha. Stupid kids trying to act like they are street justice. They fail at life. +1 for you. - Zar/Mel
06-29-2007 08:47 AM "Booo hooo look at the neg rep I got". Why don't you cry about the neg rep some more.
06-28-2007 08:11 AM Pimp shit! Cheap lights sucks. "WilloW"
06-27-2007 11:57 PM fuck em up mike!! -----dousan

Whether you like it or not, some people will understand - some wont. Cant please everyone, and the ones you can are the ones you should.

Think about it, there are people on this planet who are kind and appreciative, and dont mind supporting my business philosophy and beliefs. Then there are those that dont.

Your missing my point entirely. But it's because your a hard head.

My point is he asked how to fix them. You know how, and refuse to lend a hand. That's poor customer service EVEN if he didn't buy from you.

I love you philosophy and beliefs when it comes to buying quality stuff. I said I agree with you 100%.

All this back and forth BS could have been avoided if you woulda said, :"Dude, next time don't buy shit lights. But in the meantime, this is how you can try to fix'em..."

I guess I'm just missing the point of these forums or something. It's not to help out when someone has a question. :rolleyes:

I like the nut swingers though, that's pretty funny. :fawk:

[d*star180]

im guessing its something about how ppl would rather buy leaky ebay tails than 1500 dollar mega led shit.

Not ebay, he bought them from Aspec Logan.

[chmercer]

can someone lock this huge pile of ass

[ThatGuy]

TOPSECRET88, I hope you get your lights taken care of. This thread is gone though. No need to perpetuate the silliness any longer.

:lockd: