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JDMClifford
06-20-2007, 05:50 AM
So I was just curious what temps other peoples cars run. Just for a reference for what I can upgrade next in my cooling system.

Redtop sr20det @10psi with FMIC

mods:
Koyo radiator with dual 10" fans
Stock nissan thermostat
Stock water pump
stock overflow tank

So when I am at idle on a normal day its F122 C50 - F140 C60
And when I am idling on a hot day it is F140 C60 - F176 C80
And when i have to clime long steep hill is 4th it peeks at F217 C103

Just wondering if that's bad. Because boiling is 100c, and what temperature does the Radiator cap dump fluid into the overflow at?

S14DB
06-20-2007, 06:03 AM
You have to understand Boyle's law. The boiling point of water is 100c at 1atm. The Radiator cap raises the pressure to 1.6atm, effectively raising the boiling point of the water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyle's_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_point

That said your temps seem to be just fine.

DJ_Sunrise
06-20-2007, 06:06 AM
Stock radiator cap is 1.2 bar i believe, 90% of aftermarket are 1.3 bar, and I know someone makes a 1.4 bar. Where are you metering from? I have PowerFC, so my data is pulled directly from stock location. This effectively raises boiling pressure. I won't go so far as to say you have a cooling problem since you may be using a different source.. but.. well.. look at my setup and make your own assumption

gas station coolant
stock therm
jdm s14 sr radiator
samco cooling hoses.. which.. have no effect on cooling haha
blitz 1.3 bar rad cap.. no effect on temperatures, just higher boiling point

On cooler days i usually don't even see it go above 80C. On days of having "some" fun on the streets driving my car a bit hard but nothing crazy, temperature swims below 85C even on hotter days. On track days where its hot as balls, I haven't seen my temp above 92C. Even last summer when the temp in NJ was 119F in the sun, I never saw the temp above 90. I'll pay closer attention today, and repost tonite. Should be a warm one today.. Highs of 85F in NJ. I would flush the coolant, fill it up with some new stuff. While you're at it drop some Redline Water Wetter in, or Royal Purple Purple Ice. They help reduce WP cavitation toooo. How cool. Hope any of this helps.

-Bart

steve shadows
06-20-2007, 09:39 AM
after a hard 3 minute run at 20 psi Im at around 190F

McRussellPants
06-20-2007, 09:43 AM
how fucked up is your thermostat?



70-72C all day long daily driving.


Highest I've ever seen it go at a drift event is 85

240trainee
06-20-2007, 09:58 AM
Where is the sensor for your gauge?

jrmiller84
06-20-2007, 10:07 AM
On a cool day/night, my car will sit anywhere from 165F to right below 180F. On a hot day with aggressive driving it will go as high as about 190F. I've never seen it go above that though.

JDMClifford
06-20-2007, 10:16 AM
wow... my sensor is taped into the end of the thermostat housing. so it reads what comes out of the thermostat. and the thermostat is brand new oem nissan. im think i should get one that opens at like 160 or something like that. any ideas?

jrmiller84
06-20-2007, 10:17 AM
You're tapped into the cool water coming from the radiator. Most people(including myself) tap it from the upper radiator hose where the hot water is coming out of the motor.

steve shadows
06-20-2007, 10:20 AM
how fucked up is your thermostat?



70-72C all day long daily driving.


Highest I've ever seen it go at a drift event is 85

are you talking to me?

7-8K revs Gt3076r 20 psi , 91 octane, 90 deg air temps outside around noon.

If your colder than 180deg in that same sit, your temps might be too cold

A long drive + Racing + no cool downs.

183 is usually where its at but temps can get as high at 190 depending on track or racing length of time.

blackej7
06-20-2007, 10:33 AM
in the summer, just driving my oil temps are around 200, and water temps 185-200. when i make a few runs on the highway, my oil gets up to 230, but cools off pretty quickly, and water stays around 195.

Brian
06-20-2007, 11:20 AM
My car runs hot as fuck

just normal daily driving its around 78-80
sometimes gets like 83.
track.... umm higher. i let it chill when it gets to 100 or so.

I should probably put a clutch fan on.


stock KA

axiomatik
06-20-2007, 11:34 AM
I hope your not running straight water. Antifreeze also raises the boiling point of your coolant.

kouki-gymkhana
06-21-2007, 05:22 PM
I'm running a Koyo, 2 12" pullers and a pignose A/C fan as a pusher on my s13 RB25 with bumper cut-outs and ducting and I'm seeing 75-85C cruising around town without the A/C on. It gets balls hot when I'm in traffic with the A/C on (like ~95C) and I shut off the A/C at that temp. Cruising on the highway without the A/C the temp steadily rises and then hovers around 90C. These temps are in the S. FL heat (95F with 90%+ humidity).

My Defi water temp probe is in the upper rad hose and I'm also running a bottle of water wetter. I'm convinced I need to bleed the fuck out my cooling system and chop up the bumper some more. I just changed the headgasket and my leakdown test was <10% across the board....

420sx
06-21-2007, 07:29 PM
i get 70-73C driving.

running hard it gets up to 80's after 2 laps. 90s after 3

TheTimanator
06-21-2007, 08:04 PM
driving around I'm normally running 77c
I've seen it get too about 82-83c driving but it was pretty cool out.

I have a stock clutch fan, nismo thermo, koyo rad, 50/50 mix with a full bottle of watter wetter.

What is everybody else's setup? (especially those running cooler temps?)

mr_240sx
06-21-2007, 10:21 PM
btw what does everyone run for EGT?

chmercer
06-21-2007, 10:47 PM
whats wrong with running straight water

antifreeze is for polar bears and faggots

-=RS13=-
06-21-2007, 11:17 PM
76 C is what i get almost all the time

After about 7-10 runs of baggin it (drifting ETC) it might hit 85 C

Its all in the ducting

ixfxi
06-22-2007, 12:06 AM
whats wrong with running straight water

antifreeze is for polar bears and faggots

its corrosive, idiot.

coolant protects & lubricates

longdy
06-22-2007, 12:22 AM
fucken A... im going to the track in willow and my temp is freaken 80-87C

and when im on the track my shit gets up to 89 - 96 C
some times it even hits in the 100... fuck and i have a nismo thermo...
my shit gets hot like crazy .. lol

-dee

longdy
06-22-2007, 12:22 AM
are you talking to me?

7-8K revs Gt3076r 20 psi , 91 octane, 90 deg air temps outside around noon.

If your colder than 180deg in that same sit, your temps might be too cold

A long drive + Racing + no cool downs.

183 is usually where its at but temps can get as high at 190 depending on track or racing length of time.


lol dont be so mean steve ... lol:rofl:

bardabe
06-22-2007, 02:37 AM
its corrosive, idiot.

coolant protects & lubricates

explain to us oh mighty know it all, how coolant "protects" and "lubricates" the system other than keeping the water from freezing? ive never came across coolant that kept the the water from boiling. I run straight tap water + Water wetter. keeps my car nice and cool. and nop no rust at all. non what so ever. nothing nada. all the corrosive stuff that forms its usually because people use regular water. not drinking water. soo all the salts and contaminants still in the water corrode the system. if you use Drinking water, and water wetter ont he summer you should be good. running as cool as possible. and for the winter add some Ainti freeze to keep the water from freezing. then when winter goes out, flush the coolant system. and refill it with pure Drinking water and Watter wetter. should keep your car happy. and the coolant system clean. since it is getting flushed every year. :newbie:

420sx
06-22-2007, 05:07 AM
antifreeze is more efficient that just water.


If your block is aluminium, water is NOT corrosive. you should run watter wetter or other water additives if u do choose to rus straight water. thats just by default, otherwise theres no benefit. hell only thing you should run is DISSTILLED water. no sink or gasstation crap.

KiDyNomiTe
06-22-2007, 05:30 AM
70-72C all day long daily driving.


Highest I've ever seen it go at a drift event is 85

I am about the same. I have an oil cooler, and with no fan on it sits around this temp daily driving. With the fan on it goes down to like 60 something. At events highest temps i have seen is like 95 but thats if i dont turn the fan back on.

jrmiller84
06-22-2007, 07:11 AM
hell only thing you should run is DISSTILLED water. no sink or gasstation crap.

Exactly. Distilling water removes all impurities from the water that would assist in the corrosion of the metals in your engine. Adding antifreeze to that water increases the boiling point AS WELL AS reduces the freezing point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifreeze

The article also mentions that Antifreeze ALSO inhibits corrosion. Personally, I use them both in conjunction.

axiomatik
06-22-2007, 07:40 AM
explain to us oh mighty know it all, how coolant "protects" and "lubricates" the system other than keeping the water from freezing? ive never came across coolant that kept the the water from boiling. I run straight tap water + Water wetter. keeps my car nice and cool. and nop no rust at all. non what so ever. nothing nada. all the corrosive stuff that forms its usually because people use regular water. not drinking water. soo all the salts and contaminants still in the water corrode the system. if you use Drinking water, and water wetter ont he summer you should be good. running as cool as possible. and for the winter add some Ainti freeze to keep the water from freezing. then when winter goes out, flush the coolant system. and refill it with pure Drinking water and Watter wetter. should keep your car happy. and the coolant system clean. since it is getting flushed every year. :newbie:

try going two years between flushing your cooling system and tell me what color the water turns.

antifreeze is more efficient that just water.


If your block is aluminium, water is NOT corrosive. you should run watter wetter or other water additives if u do choose to rus straight water. thats just by default, otherwise theres no benefit. hell only thing you should run is DISSTILLED water. no sink or gasstation crap.

The block is not the only part of your engine that can corrode. The cooling system is made up of components made from different metals. When electrochemically different metals are in contact, corrosion occurs. Antifreeze contains additives to inhibit the corrosion. Not only that, but it raises the boiling point of the coolant, which makes your cooling system more efficient.

When I first got my car, it was fresh from the body shop (salvage title) and the shop put straight water in the radiator. I'll admit that when I was 16, I wasn't that knowledgable about car maintenance, and blissfully drove it every day. After a while I noticed that when I'd park my car, the coolant would be boiling in the overflow tank. It seemed strange to me, but I didn't know better. Then one day I noticed that my car was starting to leak something brown. Turned out it was water from my cooling system, it had corroded right through a metal elbow tucked under the intake manifold and the water was the color of rust. I quickly replaced the corroded part and put in a proper antifreeze mix, but the damage was done, for years I would continue to have cooling problems because the corrosion hadn't just eaten a hole in one part, it had taken that material and deposited it on other metals elswhere in the cooling system (remember the anodic/cathodic experiments in high school chemistry?). I later found my radiator to be 40% plugged.

Running distilled water will slow down the corrosion, because it is free of impurities, but unless you are somehow perfectly cleaning out the cooling system before pouring it in (fyi, you're not), you are still going to have salts and minerals in your cooling system, albeit less than if you used tap water.

Moral of the story: run a proper antifreeze/water mixture. The antifreeze prevents your coolant from freezing in the winter (obviously), but it also raises the boiling point of the coolant, which improves its performance. When your coolant boils, it reduces the cooling ability. Steam is not a good coolant. Thirdly, it helps to prevent corrosion which can causes all kinds of problems for you down the road. Learn from my mistakes.

fliprayzin240sx
06-22-2007, 08:50 AM
Water and water-wetter, nuff said...I change coolant with the season in norcal. Water wetter in summer once it starts hitting 90s outside. Back to mixed coolant for winter once it starts hitting low 40s.

420sx
06-22-2007, 09:36 AM
u can run watter wetter with antif 5/50 mixure no problem, drops temps down.
i got oil cooler too, so running car hard on track gets me in mid 80s

steve shadows
06-22-2007, 09:43 AM
fucken A... im going to the track in willow and my temp is freaken 80-87C

and when im on the track my shit gets up to 89 - 96 C
some times it even hits in the 100... fuck and i have a nismo thermo...
my shit gets hot like crazy .. lol

-dee


are you at balcony? balcony does that to some cars because air isnt moving past the rad fast enough.

use an extra pusher fan, or even remove your hood if you can.

oil cooler is next on my list

Wei240
06-22-2007, 12:47 PM
80 is my normal driving/operating temp, tapped at upper rad hose,

depending on how much constant boost i'm pushing, it goes to 90 pretty fast,

sometimes 100, and then i let it cool off, funny thing is while it's cooling off, i can see it rise to 115 on my pfc...

for those who track, remember to set the heater on hot and recirculate the air thing, it helps...

jilo
06-22-2007, 02:52 PM
explain to us oh mighty know it all, how coolant "protects" and "lubricates" the system other than keeping the water from freezing? ive never came across coolant that kept the the water from boiling. I run straight tap water + Water wetter. keeps my car nice and cool. and nop no rust at all. non what so ever. nothing nada. all the corrosive stuff that forms its usually because people use regular water. not drinking water. soo all the salts and contaminants still in the water corrode the system. if you use Drinking water, and water wetter ont he summer you should be good. running as cool as possible. and for the winter add some Ainti freeze to keep the water from freezing. then when winter goes out, flush the coolant system. and refill it with pure Drinking water and Watter wetter. should keep your car happy. and the coolant system clean. since it is getting flushed every year. :newbie:

definatley the uninformed post of the week

1. it raises the boiling point, and lowers the freezing point. you might live somewhere hot but it gets cold in ct. ive already had one car freeze its radiator from not checking the coolant content. i dont feel like doing my head gasket in this car.
2. it does lubricate shit, trust me. it cools things as they spin. it keeps them from getting hot. have you ever seen a cnc machine?

i know this shit fom going to school, but just for you here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifreeze#Ethylene_Glycol
Most commercial antifreeze formulations include corrosion inhibiting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrosion_inhibitor) compounds, and a colored dye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye) (commonly a green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green), red (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red) or blue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue) fluorescent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent)) to aid in identification. A 1:1 dilution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration) with water is usually used, resulting in a freezing point of approximately −40 °F (−40 °C). In warmer areas weaker dilutions are used.

even better than coolant though is this shit from evans cooling in ct which is a water frre coolant that boils at 370* iirc. it wont boil in the water jacket, which means you theoretically could rum the engine waay hotter if the hardware could take it. i plan on getting some at some point but its like 35$ a gallon.
http://www.evanscooling.com/main1.htm

ripnbst
06-22-2007, 03:10 PM
Its the impurities in the tap water that degrade cooling systems. If you live in the south or anywhere where the temps never go below freezing run distiled water. tap water will fuck your shit up over time, distilled water is cleansed of all impurities. Or I guess running tap water through a brita filter a few times would help too if you are macgyver.

MELLO*SOS
06-22-2007, 03:26 PM
The brita water filter also helps purify garbage vodka into tasty goodness... So I hear.

I didn't see this mentioned yet, but while antifreeze does lubricate, prevent corrosion and raise boiling temp, it also lowers the thermal conductivity of the water. Which is why pure water can cool better, it's easier for the heat to get out of the block into the water then out of the rad.

The evans cooling link is awesome, I read about that stuff a while ago and I'd love to give it a try.

Good thread with some informed posts :)

jilo
06-22-2007, 04:24 PM
The brita water filter also helps purify garbage vodka into tasty goodness... So I hear.

whaaaat!!! i was just thinking about getting one of those, my apartments tap water tastes like shit. the vodka thing is just one more good reason

MELLO*SOS
06-22-2007, 04:45 PM
Way OT now, but... Mythbusters did a whole thing on it dude!! It does a pretty decent job I guess. Can't say I've ever tried it though I usually just buy decent vodka to start with. Or skip the vodka entirely and just pick up some Captain Morgan's private stock :) Lots of hits on youtube for 'vodka filter': http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vodka+filter&search=

jilo
06-22-2007, 07:05 PM
sweet more shit to waste my money on!!!!

Bigballin
06-22-2007, 07:49 PM
The brita water filter also helps purify garbage vodka into tasty goodness... So I hear.


also works wonders with everclear... atleast thats what ive heard

98ka24det
08-02-2007, 09:12 PM
You would think at 65mph, that much ram air would be enough to cool the radiator down and keep stable water temps.....
NOPE
not my 240... that sucker will climb to 220+ and overheat if the Electric fans were not there..!! For some reason this car has a serious air flow issue. It seems that ram-air has NO effect on this car at all... the only thing that seems to bring the water temps down are the electric fans.. when they kick on, they cool the temps down fast and quick... But ram-air is non existant on this car... When i disconnected the elec fans and jumped on the hwy... the temps got to 215 b4 i stopped and turned the fans on.. thats not right !

Meanwhile my frontier and 200sx will maintain 185 deg water temps on the hwy doing 65 mph.. in 90-95 deg heat..!!

How odd is that..?? 2 cars can virtually run all day on the hwy and never need fans meanwhile my 240 will overheat on the hwy at 65 mph..... the only thing that keeps it from overheating on the hwy are those fans..!! Thats not right...

And trust me, the cooling system has been drained, refilled and bled by ASE mechanics 3 times and nothing helps.
Radiator, radiator cap, thermostat, water pump and heater core all changed out.. still overheats on the hwy.... What do u think is wrong..??

ALEXTHESUS*PECT
08-02-2007, 09:17 PM
oem cluster i farenheight.......jdm celsius

longdy
08-02-2007, 10:46 PM
i c i c... thanks steve

hayaimoto
08-02-2007, 11:07 PM
My car tends to get hot as well when Im on the freeway, (no fan shroud) Since I have no water temp gauge I go off of the gauge cluster which sits a tad bit below center. Im running a Aworks radiator that is similar to the Koyo's. But I need to make the car run cooler for track days...

A cool link about SR20DET Cooling systems:
http://home.satx.rr.com/nissanweb/RadTest/RadTest.htm

Dousan_PG
08-02-2007, 11:14 PM
lap after lap at WSIR drifting in 100+ degree temps
water temp: 85C
oil temps: low low

big ass oil cooler no thermo
oem clutch fan and shroud, no thermo
fmic regular position
ps cooler.

done.

KA-T_240
08-03-2007, 01:11 AM
Most of the time in daily driving between 175F-185F, aggressive driving closer to 185, auto-xing in 90degree heat got up to 190F, and on really long highway pulls I have gotten to just above200F

Koyo race rad, FAL dual 12's, and radiator cooling panel. Before my first road course event, I am going to make some custom venting out of the black things in the pignose bumper

WILDACEX187
08-03-2007, 01:21 AM
never passes 170F. i have altima fans, koyo, nismo thermo

bardabe
08-03-2007, 01:45 AM
definatley the uninformed post of the week

1. it raises the boiling point, and lowers the freezing point. you might live somewhere hot but it gets cold in ct. ive already had one car freeze its radiator from not checking the coolant content. i dont feel like doing my head gasket in this car.
2. it does lubricate shit, trust me. it cools things as they spin. it keeps them from getting hot. have you ever seen a cnc machine?

i know this shit fom going to school, but just for you here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifreeze#Ethylene_Glycol
Most commercial antifreeze formulations include corrosion inhibiting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrosion_inhibitor) compounds, and a colored dye (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye) (commonly a green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green), red (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red) or blue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue) fluorescent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent)) to aid in identification. A 1:1 dilution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration) with water is usually used, resulting in a freezing point of approximately −40 °F (−40 °C). In warmer areas weaker dilutions are used.

even better than coolant though is this shit from evans cooling in ct which is a water frre coolant that boils at 370* iirc. it wont boil in the water jacket, which means you theoretically could rum the engine waay hotter if the hardware could take it. i plan on getting some at some point but its like 35$ a gallon.
http://www.evanscooling.com/main1.htm

I'm sorry. I did some research before I did it myself. im perfectly happy with my set up, Distilled water + watter wetter. flush anc clean once a year. no problems here. my coolant system is perfectly happy. oh and for the "missinformed post" here I'll proove you wrong. enjoy wikipedia master
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/redtech3.htm

2_fast_240
08-03-2007, 08:31 AM
It seems like a lot of you guys on here are trying to get the temp. as low as possible which is fucking stupid if you ask me. Motors are designed to run at a specific temperature. If its not getting up to that temperature, all of the tolerances inside the motor arent running where they were engineered to run at. Isnt this why its best to let your car warm up before driving it hard. Unless of course you dont care about the wear of you engine. Same with running straight water, the coolant also acts as oil for you cooling system. Straight water couldnt be good for sealing surfaces either. Just my 2 cent.

blackej7
08-03-2007, 10:37 AM
lap after lap at WSIR drifting in 100+ degree temps
water temp: 85C
oil temps: low low

big ass oil cooler no thermo
oem clutch fan and shroud, no thermo
fmic regular position
ps cooler.

done.

If you dont mind me asking, what are your oil temps? Id be worried about cylinder wear if your oil isnt at operating temp, epsecially while on the track.

Dousan_PG
08-03-2007, 10:41 AM
dont worry about my cylinder wear
1) its not your business
2) its fucking perfect the way my car is setup. and my operating temps are freakin awesome.

blackej7
08-03-2007, 11:48 AM
dont worry about my cylinder wear
1) its not your business
2) its fucking perfect the way my car is setup. and my operating temps are freakin awesome.

lol. thats a great way of thinking. sorry for asking.

Flipzide
08-03-2007, 03:55 PM
Stock Clutch Fan
CSF Racing OEM Size Radiator
Nismo Colder Thermostat
Distilled Water
~5-10% Coolant
Redline Water Wetter

I run 160F-180F driving in the freeway and streets.
I run 180F-200F drifting at Balcony in high 90s temperature.

I don't know the temps during winter yet. I just installed my gauges and changed my cooling setup last month.

steve shadows
08-03-2007, 04:05 PM
185-190 :2f2f:

vincem
08-03-2007, 08:39 PM
stock clutch fan
oem radiator
nismo thermostat
2 bottles of redline water wetter
distilled water

160F-185F daily driving in 100+degree heat

Dousan_PG
08-03-2007, 09:41 PM
lol. thats a great way of thinking. sorry for asking.



ahah
i have no idea
i dont remember acutally
my defis i had the oil temp hooked up
operating temps were normal.
dont worry. my shits rock solid.

spool_sample
08-07-2007, 06:26 PM
~90-95C here, tops, after a few laps at Beaverun or M-O. ~80-85C is the highest on the street.

S14 SR, 10psi, FMIC
Greddy radiator
Greddy pulleys
Flexalite 212 dual (crap!)
Stock water pump
Stock themostat (Nismo going in soon)
Stock hoses
Nismo 1.3bar cap
50/50 coolant mix

Definitely looking into getting better fans... the Flexalites buzz the chassis when they kick on. Also looking into an oil cooler after reading what Dousan posted about his. Ducting would also help.

EchoOfSilence
08-07-2007, 06:43 PM
lap after lap at WSIR drifting in 100+ degree temps
water temp: 85C
oil temps: low low

big ass oil cooler no thermo
oem clutch fan and shroud, no thermo
fmic regular position
ps cooler.

done.

no thermo?
are you rocking a restrictor?

2bad240
08-07-2007, 07:01 PM
nismo thermo
koyo rad
fal dual 12"
koyo cap

my car never goes over 68c on the street.
if i make a run around cool springs, about 4 minutes temp will go to 71c

i have my fans on all the time.

Dousan_PG
08-07-2007, 10:43 PM
no thermo?
are you rocking a restrictor?

no sir on the oil cooler
yes on the water cooling

my setup rules
shits awesome

hitman
08-07-2007, 11:36 PM
ya i have an oil cooler with no thermo also, then my radiator has no thermo and stock clutch fan and good condition shroud. then i have water w/ water wetter and my fmic is scooter spec all high, oil cooler is near there too. kinda similar settup to aarons, but with ka. i dont have a water temp or oil temp or oil pressure gauge, but the needle for my water temp never goes past the middle even summer at willow, and i have heater core removed, no hood vent or anything. i like it. some fluidyne radiator. running .42 bar or some shit on a s14 turbo

1320_power
08-08-2007, 12:28 AM
before i got my cooling upgrades. my temps would go up to 83 C just driving around. I live in a humid tropical area where summers are hot. but when I put in the Koyo 2 core radiator, 68 degree low thermostat. the temps don't go above 72 c and when i am running it hard doesn't past 83 C. the stock fan and shroud flows better than electric fans also.

JDMClifford
08-08-2007, 02:21 AM
wow alot of people run power steering coolers. i thought i was the only one that had that problem. cool! where do you hook the ps cooler to the return on line going to the ps res?

Koopa Troopa
08-08-2007, 03:04 AM
My Motec doesn't read a temperature when the car is on... It just says "You make hell look like the north pole"

S14DB
08-08-2007, 07:27 AM
wow alot of people run power steering coolers. i thought i was the only one that had that problem. cool! where do you hook the ps cooler to the return on line going to the ps res?

Yeah the stock cooler is on the return from the rack. You remove the stock one and it's rubber hoses and install the oil cooler kit. Even though it looks like hard lines the stock cooler has rubber lines from the rack to it and from it to the reservoir.

Dousan_PG
08-08-2007, 11:19 AM
yeah stock has that loop to help cool it down but it doesnt do much
i removed mine and did a PS cooler on the low pressure side.
done. and awesome.

EchoOfSilence
08-08-2007, 02:40 PM
where did you get your restrictor, man?
i love being intrusive :hs:

WILDACEX187
08-08-2007, 03:29 PM
im sure that my car running at bellow 170F temps is wats leading me to hear my bearings at cold start up.

ejkisela
08-08-2007, 04:39 PM
For what it's worth..the car only drives to the track. Driving there about 71 degrees C, as noted on datalogit and trust meter. track prior to Nismo thermo and just a 3 row copper raditator, hit 100 in 4 laps. Now I hit about 95 is 6 laps. I run appx 40/60 with coolant being 60. oil pan will help with temps once installed. Need to work on the POS "T"-rust manifold first. TD-06 mani cracks too often, need to buy a new one.

Nismo thermo
Billion cap
3 row TBO radiator
td-06 20g boost 1 key
264
850 cc
power fc

etc etc

Dousan_PG
08-08-2007, 05:51 PM
where did you get your restrictor, man?
i love being intrusive :hs:

i have a cut up thermo
so its restricting the flow
its always open
but its been chopped up and modified.

restircing like that
not sure if there is 'restrictor' part like an actual part that does that u must buy seperate

HKsilvia
08-09-2007, 05:05 AM
mine got hottest when stuck in traffic, around 92 C sometimes
it was otherwise 60 - 85 depends on weather and my throttle

KA-T_240
08-09-2007, 09:14 AM
just did a 500mile road trip, got up to just under 190. if i got to close behind other traffic it would go up to 195.

DRFT180
08-09-2007, 12:31 PM
Normal driving temps are between 70c-80c when cruizing with no fans on.
I have one fan set to come on at 88c but it hardly ever does unless I'm sitting in traffic for a while.

Drifting is not a problem
Flip the switch to turn on the fans and run all day non-stop and never go above 86c

Road Course days
I can run a 20 minute session with maybe 1 cool down lap in between.
Temps steadily rise to about 105 but it takes a long time of constant full throttle.
Then with that cool down lap I'm back <85c.

Setup:
KA w/[email protected]
FC oil cooler
Koyo
Billion Thermo
Altimas (sealed)
DIF dual fan controller
PS cooler
and most important DUCTING

for example here's a piece I made for the oil cooler
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8777/oilcoolerductps7.jpg

next mod will be a uras vent for unlimited track time

done

mangoes
08-20-2007, 01:27 PM
my car runs at 65-75 around town. at the track i hit in the 90s. is there any kinda electric fan that will fit between the fan shroud and the radiator?

clutch fan
stock shroud
nismo thermostat
nismo rad cap
koyo radiator

WILDACEX187
08-20-2007, 11:24 PM
put a fan in front of the radiator as a pusher

Dousan_PG
08-21-2007, 07:42 AM
use the stock ac fan

all stock
10-02-2007, 07:06 AM
just curious as to what people run for oil temps.

i'm hitting around 120ish C near the end of my track session.
water temp doesn't move past 84C.
stant thermostat and mishimoto radiator

Tops*
10-02-2007, 08:40 AM
My car runs at 180F in the city and 195F after a hour of driving on the expressway at 80ish. I also have a high temperature exhaust which translates to a heated shift knob on the expressway :werd:

240trainee
10-02-2007, 09:05 AM
I need a gauge

and re-wire/ mount my taurus fans, high doesn't work anymore.

Only issue I had this past weekend at the track.

+1 for the ducting, I am stoked that I work at a duct shop, lol, they can make me anything I want however I want.

Computer controlled plasma cutter ftw

silviaz
10-02-2007, 10:09 AM
wow some people are fucking stupid. I can't beleive they find them self instructed.

Damn... WATER.... after that they are crying their car are overheating or their head gasket is blown.

98ka24det
06-24-2008, 08:19 PM
I know this thread is a BIT old but im gonna give u my #'s...

95F deg outside air temps: Adj thermostat set to kick on at 180F
idle, 165-180F fans cycling on and off
street cruising, 185-190 fans stuck ON all the time
hwy cruising 55+mph, 205-210F solid, fans still on all the time. Come to an off ramp exiting the hwy and come to a stop light, temps drop down to 165 and fans shut off... Yeah i have a serious air flow issue on street & hwy speeds.

Stock radiator, stock therm, 50/50 mix, FAL dual 12's

mr_240sx
06-24-2008, 08:20 PM
get clutch fan and issues wil be solved.

pbcstylez
06-26-2008, 10:51 AM
I know this thread is a BIT old but im gonna give u my #'s...

95F deg outside air temps: Adj thermostat set to kick on at 180F
idle, 165-180F fans cycling on and off
street cruising, 185-190 fans stuck ON all the time
hwy cruising 55+mph, 205-210F solid, fans still on all the time. Come to an off ramp exiting the hwy and come to a stop light, temps drop down to 165 and fans shut off... Yeah i have a serious air flow issue on street & hwy speeds.

Stock radiator, stock therm, 50/50 mix, FAL dual 12's

something is definately wrong here, @ 55mph, what is the ambient air temp? you should definately not be getting that hot, I think your thermostat is shot

your temps are fluctuating too much, as far as street goes it seems right, but the hwy #s are all over the place

idahotuner
06-26-2008, 12:09 PM
Mine reads 180 degrees constantly. my alternator bet tensioner vibrated almost all the wya out then my water temp was getting up to 200. but i fixed that and it runs at 180 again..

i have my sensor in the adapter from custom steel. coming right off the head. and i have a mishimoto radiator. running stock clutch fan with shroud.

mr_240sx
06-26-2008, 01:10 PM
yeah my red top sr with FMIC and koyo rad runs 155F all day now.


it used to be at like 185 city adn 195-205 hwy before with electric fans.

blackej7
06-26-2008, 01:27 PM
yeah my red top sr with FMIC and koyo rad runs 155F all day now.


it used to be at like 185 city adn 195-205 hwy before with electric fans.

Seems like the temps were good when you had the electric fans.

155 is way too cold. Stock thermostat isnt even supposed to open until 170F

mr_240sx
06-26-2008, 01:50 PM
the problem is at the track id do 2 laps and i was like 215-225. way too hot!

so now at the track it stays below 180 which is great! and 155F is totally fine.

98ka24det
06-26-2008, 04:28 PM
something is definately wrong here, @ 55mph, what is the ambient air temp? you should definately not be getting that hot, I think your thermostat is shot

your temps are fluctuating too much, as far as street goes it seems right, but the hwy #s are all over the place
Thats what i keep trying to tell people but they dont listen and say that those hwy temps are normal.....
I have a 200sx with the ga16 motor and a 2000 frontier and both motors are electric fan driven and BOTH do NOT see over 185F temps on the hwy... even at 75mph, the temps stick at 185... and even cooler when outisde temps drop.
Ive done drained, bled the system over a dozen times and cannot figure out why the hwy temps get so hi. I even pulled the thermostat and threw that suker in the pot and put it to boil and it started to open up at 160 and was full opened by 170.. and thats what the the fsm states it should do so its good.
Water pump isnt leaking which means its "supposed" to be good.

Croan
08-28-2008, 10:15 AM
i just put in a apexi oil temo gauge. its in C' tho. wat temp should i set my warning at

McCoy
08-28-2008, 11:47 AM
just curious as to what people run for oil temps.

i'm hitting around 120ish C near the end of my track session.
water temp doesn't move past 84C.
stant thermostat and mishimoto radiator
Sounds about right for what I hit on track...

Not sure what motor setup you have, but mine is a SR20DE-T, T28 turbo, JWT S3 cams, etc for the motor setup. For cooling I have a Koyo radiator, minor ducting up front, no fans, Z32 radiator cap, and heater on the #4 setting.

On the street, my water temps sit right at 175F (stock T-stat) and will raise up to 195F in town on warmer days.

On track with ambient temps around 90F +/-

At 11psi I run between 250-260F for oil temps and water is somewhere between 230-240F by the end of a 25-30 minute session.

At 8psi, I can hold a solid 220-225F water/oil for a solid 30 minutes.

I have a freddy oil pan and run mobil1 10w-40 oil, no oil cooler yet.

s13dan
08-28-2008, 01:14 PM
damn my car runs too hot.

mr_240sx
08-28-2008, 02:36 PM
water at 230-240F.....dont you risk damaging engine over 225F?

McCoy
08-28-2008, 02:49 PM
water at 230-240F.....dont you risk damaging engine over 225F?over 225F for extended periods of time, probably. I've been doing track days in SR powered cars for 5 years now and have typically always ran in the 220-230+ range and have yet to toast a motor.

240F water temps is pushing it and I'm working on ways to get that down over the winter.

mr_240sx
08-28-2008, 05:13 PM
ok good to know......

BigwaveSC
09-04-2008, 12:30 AM
my car runs at 88-90C all day...
but when I'm drifting or any time I get the revs up to around 3500or higher for a good amount of time it drops down a lot... to around 68C.

WHY?

SexPanda
09-04-2008, 12:39 AM
my car runs a tad bit over the middle mark on my thingy...

so 78`C

Sileighty_85
09-04-2008, 07:01 AM
Koyo Alum. Rad
Billion Hoses
Nismo Thermo & Rad Cap
Dual E-Fans

NEVER goes above 68*C (154* F)
Even on track days
and I still have the A/C Condenser

McCoy
09-04-2008, 07:49 AM
my car runs at 88-90C all day...
but when I'm drifting or any time I get the revs up to around 3500or higher for a good amount of time it drops down a lot... to around 68C.

WHY?
The T-stat is sticking open, when was the last time you changes it... and was it a geniune nissan T-stat or a generic one?

BigwaveSC
09-04-2008, 12:06 PM
The T-stat is sticking open, when was the last time you changes it... and was it a geniune nissan T-stat or a generic one?

I drive an SC300 and your probably right...