Video Game Violence?

[FaLKoN240]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH_Kzicf84c

Notice how in America, it's EVERYONE else's fault but the parent's.

I've noticed at my work a lot the same idea flies. What's your take? I'm interested to see how Zilvia thinks.

[BOROSUN]

my kid plays games, movies, and watch mma fights with me. i dont mind.

but, i do discipline my kid its my wife who spoils him.

[S13FREEAAK]

If a video game makes you do things like that, there are way more issues wrong than just the game.

[SNC240SX]

That was a cool video. I played video games growing up and all the GTA games and have yet to steal a car or kill someone. As long as the parents do a good job of showing children the boundaries it shouldnt make a difference what the kid watchs or plays.

[spool_sample]

I believe part of the reason why games where you can kill people, break the law, drive wrecklessly, etc. exist is so people DON'T have to do any of those things in real life.

[Matej]

Props to Japanese kid for destroying a Mustang. :)

[Edgar]

What about the video games? How they promote real life violence? Or just play them?

They are just video games is how I look at it? I played Mortal Kombat when I was about 7-8 when it first came out and it had blood, and I think it was just a game I didnt end up trying to Jhonny Cage or anything.

[eastcoastS14]

I have to agree, video games have become this scapegoat so society can point a finger when something goes wrong rather than admit that we live in a fucked up world. Video games dont teach you how to kill people, and no one ever looks at the millions who play video games without carrying out any acts of violence. shit if video games make you violent by showing violence then they better cancel the news because thats real in your face violence shown everyday. I think real violence is often more sick and twisted than fiction. Blaming video game violence is the classic stand point taken by news stations whenever a school shooting happens yet, they fail to acknowledge the fact that there very news station is showing other troubled kids that such actions are possible just by reporting the story in the first place...I call BS on video game violence harming kids, if you take anything in a game seriously or find it inspirational then you have way more issues

[jrmiller84]

I worked as Software Developer for a video game retail chain called Rhino Video Games (some of you southeastern people may have heard of it) and so much effort went into making sure kids didn't get ahold of violent games. It's truthfully up to the parents. People don't want to take responsibility for their actions. I played video games my entire childhood and still do and I've never once contempleted EVER hurting anyone or their property. It's how your parents raise you.

Oh, and by the way... Fuck Jack Thompson. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_%28attorney%29)

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/pa_jack.jpg

[SochBAT]

Yea. Videogames have a bad rep lately. They forget if they don't want their kids playing it, DON'T BUY IT FOR EM. Morons.

Games have ratings, just as movies do. Its just overlooked by parents that suck balls at parenting. Parents nowadays are so damn scared of their own kids, and all the 'dangers' of disciplining them, they lose control of how their kids learn and grow. Put your damn foot down, tell em don't do shit, and if they persist, 5 across the head.

Chalk it up to bad parenting to blame anything that moves on their own faults. Asshats.

[azndoc]

I believe that it's up to the parents to educate their own kids what the consequences of their actions will be if they steal a car, murder someone, rape someone, or any kind of crime.

When it comes to Nature vs. Nurture I believe that Nurture is what shapes someone and how they live their day to day life.

Everyone should also be held accountable for their own actions. I don't care what age you are. Unless your mentally unstable then you are in control of what decisions you make.

[BustedS13]

nobody on the internet hates video game violence. the problem is people in real life.

[ThatGuy]

If video games really taught violence, I would've throw frogs on to the highway after I played "Frogger" and swung from vines after "Pitfall". Oh wait, I DID do those things. But wait, I never ate cherries and tried to chase ghosts around a maze full of pills. Dumb Ass Pac-Man! Maybe it's just kids doing dumb shit and parents looking for a scapegoat?

[BustedS13]

If video games really taught violence, I would've throw frogs on to the highway after I played "Frogger" and swung from vines after "Pitfall". Oh wait, I DID do those things. But wait, I never ate cherries and tried to chase ghosts around a maze full of pills. Dumb Ass Pac-Man! Maybe it's just kids doing dumb shit and parents looking for a scapegoat?

hmm. after playing ms. pacman, i put on makeup and ate a ton of pills, and i saw some ghosts.

[wonkuuzenki]

hmmm. interesting. i just wrote an essay on this topic.
It' is the parents responsibilty to raise their children correctly.
nuff said

[eastcoastS14]

I agree 100% with sochbat...it seems like parents are scared of disciplining their kids, I love seeing mothers having conversations with their children about why the cant have or do something. With my parents it was always and I mean always "because I said so". My parents never hit me or anything like that and for the most part I just did what they said because thats the way shit was...now it seems like so many kids get whatever they want, dont blame your kid for wanting shit, kids are supposed to want everything under the sun but its up to the parents to decide what they can and cant have...and if parents lay down the law kids will listen

[SochBAT]

exactly. Earning things is a lost art. I think its dying out. Everything is spoon fed to these young ballers. Retarded.

[SimpleSexy180]

because americans are pussies?

[bardabe]

Props to Japanese kid for destroying a Mustang. :)
lol seriously

[BC240]

I hear the crusades were started over warcraft 2

[Unholy S14]

my dad bought me a NES back when i was like 9.

went from the NES to 360 and PS3 with no problems lol.

[mrmephistopheles]

I hear the crusades were started over warcraft 2

Actually, that was the Spanish Inquisition.

the Crusades were fought over Starcraft.

Wolfenstein 3D is to blame for the Roman empire.





my quick rant:
Fuck Jack Thompson. He's a pathetic vampiric excuse for an attorney.
His only skill is to play off the ignorance, fear and pain of the public and the victims of horrible people.

Violent video games != violent people.
I've been playing video games since before Colecovision and Zaxxon were new, and have been a PC gamer since ~'91-92.
Wolfenstein 3D was the first game that made me say wow, and I devoured the PC game magazines that heralded the forthcoming arrival of Doom. I can still remember a preliminary screenshot they printed (that ended up looking almost nothing like the game), and all but creamed myself because the graphics were so much better.
After Doom, it was Heretic (:barf:), Doom 2 , Quake, TeamFortress Quake, Quake 2, Half Life, et al. ad infinitum.
There's a recurring theme there - all of them are first person shooters, where the object is to kill other players/creatures/entities/etc. I've probably 'killed' a million virtual things playing these games, and probably 100,000 other players online.
Last time I tallied up the number of people I've killed in real life, I came up with a big fat zero. In fact, I've never even stabbed a person. Never sniped anyone, popped their head with a shotgun, 'naded anyone, etc.

I *have* pointed a loaded pistol (with the safety off) at a man, but he was high on meth (and suspected of being armed) and I was wearing a badge at the time.

I recognize that there is a disconnect between video games and reality.
I understand that there are consequences to my actions, and that killing an innocent person is wrong.

Any person who scapegoats video games as the source of violence is as ignorant, stupid and evil as the perpetrator of said violence. If the perpetrator of the violence attempts to blame videogames/whatever, their idiocy is showing clearly.


In the end it comes down to responsibility.

Responsibility for one's own actions.
Responsibility in raising your children right.
Responsibility to humanity by doing the right thing.



shit, I guess that wasn't quite so quick.

[FinalDrive]

In the end it comes down to responsibility.

Responsibility for one's own actions.
Responsibility in raising your children right.
Responsibility to humanity by doing the right thing.



exactly
couldn't have said it any better than that

[jrmiller84]

Violent video games != violent people.
I've been playing video games since before Colecovision and Zaxxon were new, and have been a PC gamer since ~'91-92.
Wolfenstein 3D was the first game that made me say wow, and I devoured the PC game magazines that heralded the forthcoming arrival of Doom. I can still remember a preliminary screenshot they printed (that ended up looking almost nothing like the game), and all but creamed myself because the graphics were so much better.
After Doom, it was Heretic (:barf:), Doom 2 , Quake, TeamFortress Quake, Quake 2, Half Life, et al. ad infinitum.
There's a recurring theme there - all of them are first person shooters, where the object is to kill other players/creatures/entities/etc. I've probably 'killed' a million virtual things playing these games, and probably 100,000 other players online.
Last time I tallied up the number of people I've killed in real life, I came up with a big fat zero. In fact, I've never even stabbed a person. Never sniped anyone, popped their head with a shotgun, 'naded anyone, etc.


Agreed*2.

And by the way Kevin, your taste in PC games is awesome. We've probably killed each other out there somewhere, haha.

[HyperTek]

Id rather blame urban media influence on youth over video games/movies etc..

TV shows that show people how they are suppose to live and act...
Alot of urban areas and ethnics now are just degraded of what years of work that freedom fighters have done to ensure a better image of the ethnic. =\

Id rather see people bitch at TV and music.

I think our older geration was ok wiht video games, becuase at 5 years old, the most violent game we had was Super Mario Bros.

but I think some children are spoiled.. mommy and daddy who buy em anything..

[dirtdiggler666]

ok some games theise days are crazy, when i was growing up you couldent hump a girl in a car lol like in gta. so when i played that game i was like wow they can make a game like this. but it still just comes down to how the kids are raised.

[eastcoastS14]

this same argument was used when I used to play paintball as Im sure it still is today but im not much in the paintball scene anymore...its a crock of shit, and thats real life. Ive sniped out people with a "type of firearm" (if you can call it that) in real life and i still have no desire to be violent or take someone elses life and all the people arguing this point are old fucks who dont play video games or play paint ball anyway, they judge other peoples lives and behavior from the sidelines

[Matej]

www.gamepolitics.com is an interesting website.

[Phlip]

It's good to see that they have found another scapegoat, no matter how much more asinine the choice was, than rap music for why people shouldn't properly raise their fucking kids.
I mean, I was raised on (probably unhealthy amounts of both, given my age) both hip hop and video games, and I have never acted on that desire to kill people. And I am quite sure we've had the desire to ice SOMEONE at some point in their existence.

[BOROSUN]

dont forget about duke nuke em!

shooting & blowing up pig cops. lol

[Phlip]

When I first played Metal Gear Solid, I broke into warehouses uninvited and killed the guards, then stole vehicles, which I used to get me to the next place...