About Intakes...

[groundzero]

What's the difference between a regular cold air intake and a short ram intake?  Which one should I purchase for my S13?

[transient]

The cold air is an extension on the short ram that puts the filter in the wheel well, feeding colder denser air to the engine. This will give you more power, but feelings are mixed on whether you should get the extension or not. I personally can't say because i've got a SOHC which only has the short ram available.

[thewholefnshow]

I used to have a dodge neon with an Iceman Cold Air Intake, 1 word. Awsome. A lot of people talk about water submerging and stuff like that, and 9 out of ten people don't know what they are talking about. I coulddrive in a monsoon and it was fine, as long as you don't submerge the whole thing (drive through lakes or 2 foot deep puddles) they are the way to go. And there is always the bipass valve... oh, and if you can't buy the extention, make it, they are a piece of cake to build just he extension on, a piece of aluminum piping and elbow, and some rubber connecting sleave and you are there for about 20 bucks.

[BlankFlip]

what if i have some bad puddles on some streets here that build up in the rain and a 2.0 inch drop in the front.

[thewholefnshow]

How fast do you hit them? honestly, I hit some big puddles, hard, mine sat like 1 inch lower than the bumper, and no trouble... if you are worried about it, AEM makes a by pass valve, then you can stick the thing in an aquarium and you will have no trouble... up to you. But In my experience I never have any problems. my brother has it now and it is gonna be in all winter.

[BlankFlip]

i just know the puddles r enough to slow down the car, still not sure if it would get to the filter really bad. i'm usually going 'bout 35-40mph cuz it's just one road i always go through, so there r certain spots.

[thewholefnshow]

Seriously, I hit like a 4 inch puddle at 55, hydroplaned and thought... shit I hope that doesn't get in the filter... If you put a little sleave over it, and get the bypas valve seriously. At that point you can submerge it completely and do absolutely no damage, cause it doesn't get any suction... there is no way unless you poor water under the hood. And even if you get a short intake, they are on the top of the engine, so if the water does get under your hood, it doesn't have to go up to get into your intake. So you are damned eithter way...

[Gman]

When you guys say cold air extension do you mean Injen's right?  Because i didn't know that the AEM bypass valve can work in conjunction with the Ingen CAE.  Can anybody clear this up for me?

[groundzero]

I should just settle for the short ram then huh?  You guys made it seem like a regular cold intake will just get messed up from the rain and puddles, and trust me I have a lot of rain and puddles in my city.

[sykikchimp]

I had the Short Ram on My 90..  If you only get the short ram, Get the heat sheild..  If I still had that car that was gonna be the next thing I purchased.

[Drift Style S14]

personally if i had the money to i would drill a hole in my who and run the intake into the whole so the entire filter would stick out the hood. then i would make it a little umbrella and put on a bypass valve just to make sure no water got in the motor.

[nos240]

that's a good one drift style s14 lol

[thewholefnshow]

I would just ask, but I am sure it will, ingen and AEM both make a lot of different circumferances, and I know that htere are multiple models of the bypass, if you look at how it works it is pretty simple anyways. And they are both a very similar design. If you can, go cold air...

[White240sx]

thewholefnshow knows what he's talking about here. Unless you anticipate driving into a lake, you aren't going to draw enough water up the tube to stop the engine, and at that point water in you intake is the last of your worries. There isn't going to be any life threatening consequences of inducing a little atomized water through the filter, what do you think water injection is? AEM found a way to make an extra $40 with the sale of every intake, that’s all. Even ask around, how many people do you know that have entirely submerged their filter and filled up a cylinder with water?

[fadenb]

about the injen cold air extension and the aem bypass valve-this can be done.  i waz concerned about this as well. my front drivers side wheel well cover is old a torn apart.  one day driving in te first rains of october the freeway could not soak up the rain fast enough, so i kept the car at a low rpm to make shure i would not suck up any water from the tire spin.  dident work to well. from a red light had to bring the rpms up...and then it happend.  my motor bogged down and i saw my life flash right in front of my eyes. this happend 2x on th way to work.  turns out the filter was saturated and when i gave  gas it sucked only a mist into the manifold just enough to put out the spark.  thank god no serious damage. the injen splash guard would have prevented this and a new wheel well. you would have to cut the injen intake to accomadate the aem bypass valve i was told, cold air is usaly safe in the rain and puddles just make shure that the #### cover is not torn (new from nissan $40)

[tnord]

i'm going to make this real simple:

CAI=more & colder air=more power=more expensive
Short Ram=more air=some more power=not as expensive

got it? good. lesson over

[chickenmanq]

Even better, make your own with PVC!!!  Regular old polyvinyl chloride water piping.  Works just as well, I shit you not.

[Silviaboy]

First off, the AEM air bypass vavle will fit in the place of any of the connecting hoses on your intake. If you have a rubber connector then you can fit the AEM vavle. I did it on a friend's Integra. Second, the guy that mentioned making a intake out of pvc I want to point out one thing, heat. If you notice the finish on most intake pipes it is pretty thick. Most are coated with something to keep the heat out. Other than that, go ghetto. And in regards to the original question, could air is more expensive but makes more power and the risk under normal conditions, i.e. a complete wheel well, should be minimul. The addition of a splash sheild and bypass the odds are in your favor. Go for it. Don't worry.

[rabbit23]

a good friend of mine just had to replace the engine in his civic. he had the cae, it was during a flood but if it rains alot in your area why risk it? of course his insurance paid for a new engine but that isn't the point. i think if your car is lowered and you have the cae installed you'd better be careful.

[9524tee]

the cold air is alot better than the short ram , i noticed a huge difference with the extension on the injen intake

[RoNx777]

FADENB: So did the AEM Bypass Valve work with the Injen CAI???

[Chicken Magnet]

The CAI will give you more power because:

More Air = More Fuel Air Mixture = More Power

I'm not sure how often it rains there, but during the rainy season, take off your CAE.  When there aren't anymore puddles, slap it back on.  It's not too hard.  Just don't hydrolock your engine or you'll be paying for it!

[s14vaxlr8]

just get the bypass valve, and you wont have to worry bout suckin water, what is it 40 bucks!!!!not too expensive, and yes it does fit

cody

[groundzero]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from tnord on 10:43 pm on Jan. 15, 2002
i'm going to make this real simple:

CAI=more &amp; colder air=more power=more expensive
Short Ram=more air=some more power=not as expensive

got it? good. lesson over
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Nice Point. &nbsp;Lesson over.