View Full Version : homemade ruca's
dirtdiggler666
06-03-2007, 05:11 PM
just wondering anyone made their own rucas?? any info im thinking about making my own, any input would be cool
ThatGuy
06-03-2007, 05:14 PM
They aren't that expensive, just buy them.
www.splparts.com
CA18_S13
06-03-2007, 05:28 PM
Look at the max's ones they look good.
Slidin240Wayz
06-04-2007, 07:58 AM
Emjukuracing has a special on the Peak Performance...
!Zar!
06-04-2007, 09:41 AM
Eh, it's possible with the right equipment, but why? You might as well go with a product that's already available. But if you're asking around then chances are making them isn't a good idea.
turbo2nr
06-04-2007, 04:01 PM
dont go cheap with suspension thats your life spend the money and get good quality parts..
gotta pay to play
Wei240
06-04-2007, 04:45 PM
unless you know someone who can make them and with high quality material that your life depends on, i say just go buy them...
azndoc
06-04-2007, 04:50 PM
I totally agree with the above people. There's plenty of companies out there with trusted names and quality products who already makes rucas. So you should just buy from them instead of making your own. As cool as it may seem, but if you don't have much experience in rucas then I wouldn't suggest you making your own just to save a few bucks.
GL with your decision.
arkive43
06-04-2007, 06:07 PM
actually i know a guy that is capable of making them. but he wont sale any to anyone. his reasons being he does not have a company. also he hasnt tested them yet. and lastly if something was to happen (ie they break) he dosent wana be responsible. which i totally understand. im going for the max stuff there coils/sus.components look strong.
actually i know a guy that is capable of making them. but he wont sale any to anyone. his reasons being he does not have a company. also he hasnt tested them yet. and lastly if something was to happen (ie they break) he dosent wana be responsible. which i totally understand. im going for the max stuff there coils/sus.components look strong.
well thank god you posted and told us that
arkive43
06-04-2007, 08:05 PM
yea im not gona buy something that has not been through some sort of quality control making components as important as suspention stuff needs testing. just cause its home made dosent make it cheeper especially if it fails and ur car ends up getting fuked up more. ill let teh companys pay for teh testing and buy products that are guranteed to work.
inertiaticism
06-04-2007, 08:24 PM
They would be very easy to make for someone with good fab skills.
However, someone like that's time is usually worth enough that is makes sense to just buy them.
Beside, they wouldn't be all that cheap.
Good rod ends like Aurora or QA2 are expensive.
These aren't made ouy of black metal pipe from Home Depot, good tubing isn't cheap.
Filler, argon, threaded plugs for the rod ends to screw into.
Then priming and painting them, or powdercoating and baking them, or sending them out to be plated.....
I would imagine that buying everything one by one instead of wholesale like Alex at Battleversion does would probably make you come out only marginally cheaper than just buying them. And then you have to factor in your time.
And the fact that you likely don't know what you're doing and the car would likely fall to the ground as soon as you pulled the jack out from under it.
There's no black magic to making them, it's just welded tube.
yea im not gona buy something that has not been through some sort of quality control making components as important as suspention stuff needs testing. just cause its home made dosent make it cheeper especially if it fails and ur car ends up getting fuked up more. ill let teh companys pay for teh testing and buy products that are guranteed to work.
Jesus christ, did you grow up in the woods like that chick in Nell? Who the fuck talks like that?
I wonder how much of the name brand stuff is actually ever tested.
I wonder how much of it is made by companies in China, speced with a different paint color and logos, and welded together by a dude who has no idea what the part does functionally, is going to go on, or what a 240sx is.
I doubt much of it is ever stress tested except for the more expensive brands, some of which I doubt are anyway.
Jonnie Fraz
06-04-2007, 09:03 PM
Ok I will chime in...I concider myself a fair fabracator...Like the above have stated it is not worth it unless you have the equipment at your disposal. To bent those tight bends you are looking at least a $1000. machine, and that is cheep. Dies alone are like $300 to bend heavy wall DOM. Like inertiaticism said rod ends alone are gonna be almost $100 for the correct ones.
I do not know you personally, but unless you are a real good fabracator with tons of killer equipment at your beck and call please do not try this.
Truly we are trying to help.
GoodOl'S13
06-04-2007, 09:18 PM
listen to "Zilvias in house Fabricator"^
arkive43
06-04-2007, 09:20 PM
They would be very easy to make for someone with good fab skills.
However, someone like that's time is usually worth enough that is makes sense to just buy them.
Beside, they wouldn't be all that cheap.
Good rod ends like Aurora or QA2 are expensive.
These aren't made ouy of black metal pipe from Home Depot, good tubing isn't cheap.
Filler, argon, threaded plugs for the rod ends to screw into.
Then priming and painting them, or powdercoating and baking them, or sending them out to be plated.....
I would imagine that buying everything one by one instead of wholesale like Alex at Battleversion does would probably make you come out only marginally cheaper than just buying them. And then you have to factor in your time.
And the fact that you likely don't know what you're doing and the car would likely fall to the ground as soon as you pulled the jack out from under it.
There's no black magic to making them, it's just welded tube.
Jesus christ, did you grow up in the woods like that chick in Nell? Who the fuck talks like that?
I wonder how much of the name brand stuff is actually ever tested.
I wonder how much of it is made by companies in China, speced with a different paint color and logos, and welded together by a dude who has no idea what the part does functionally, is going to go on, or what a 240sx is.
I doubt much of it is ever stress tested except for the more expensive brands, some of which I doubt are anyway.
lol and your the one from north carolina :keke: if u dont know leet speek dont be mad its ok. sometimes when i type i dont notice 'taht' i type like this.
lol,:ugh: all parts have to be tested someone buys a control arm it breaks causing a bad accedent the people involved can sue the company. if theres no proof the part was tested then case closed. it was the manufacturers fault for not testing a product. there are rules and regulations, if there wernt then anyone with the means could make these parts. most companys test the parts then ship the plans to a factory in 'china' to be mass produced.
why do u think most companys have a tein car or an hks car? its to test parts.:-/
floodo1
06-04-2007, 09:46 PM
First up most RUCA's arent like Cusco ones. They are about the only company that doesnt weld a U shaped piece of tubing to a straight piece. Keep that in mind when considering things.
But basically if you need to start this thread on zilvia the answer is just buy some. Because if you or someone you knew was actually capable of doing this you wouldnt even need to have this thread.
IF you or someone that you knew, actually knew what was going on the only challenge (as has been previously said) is getting the tubing bent with a small radius. Other then that, you can knockoff the Cusco design so your weld strength is only crictical on the U-shaped endplate (that goes on the upright side). But then again I wouldnt have to tell you that :)
So go buy some $$ Cusco's and take pride in the fact that you bought some nice RUCA's :) Theres a reason why SPL didnt bother making there own :) Especially considering the quality of their (SPL) tension rods, which are hands down the best :)
inertiaticism
06-04-2007, 09:57 PM
lol and your the one from north carolina :keke: if u dont know leet speek dont be mad its ok. sometimes when i type i dont notice 'taht' i type like this.
They teach some of us how to speak like adults in NC. Just ask Phlip.
I know leet speak better than you think, i just quit using it when my pubes came in.
Anyway, you're assuming a lot.
Testing isn't testing.
Bolting a set of rucas up to a demo car and sliding it around every once in a while isn't really very sophisticated stress analysis.
I'm aware of shop cars in general, but I've also seen lots of broken name brand parts, some photos, some in person.
And another thing, there are no rules and regulations regarding this shit in China as far as I know.
They don't even have basic copyright enforcement, I doubt that most of the factories sticking together stuff for our cars are ISO9002 certified.
I doubt most of them make only car parts.
I guess what I am saying is that unless I have heard of a part being made in Japan by facilities controlled by the company that sells the part, I assume it's a rebadged no-name part.
edit: SPL rucas are NAMS, right?
arkive43
06-04-2007, 10:31 PM
hehe not sure about the spl rucas i always assumed they make there own parts. i was just using the demo cars as an example but u got what i was saying. man ur putting doubts into my head about buying parts now lol.
upSLIDEdown
06-04-2007, 10:36 PM
well thank god you posted and told us that
LAWLZ!
I serioulsy LOLed at that...
Bigballin
06-04-2007, 11:11 PM
well thank god you posted and told us that
lol. that shit flew right over his head. sad....
dirtdiggler666
06-04-2007, 11:50 PM
well damn this just blew up i kinda just wanted to see if anyone made their own. that being said its kinda cool when people make their own shit just to buy the brand name b.s thats to easy its a car not a rc car. and it has nothing to about the money i just see the parts some companys are selling and it looks like shit to me. well ill give it a try and get back to you guys, oh and its a track only car so im not going to kill anyone
ask yourself this what would you rather have a cusco 6pt or
a fully custom weld in cage made with 4130 all tig welded and gusseted with dimple dies hummm
inertiaticism
06-05-2007, 03:55 AM
ask yourself this what would you rather have a cusco 6pt or
a fully custom weld in cage made with 4130 all tig welded and gusseted with dimple dies hummm
Oh, no doubt, custom is always better.
I make almost everything for my own car, but I guess I would rather save the time it would take and put it into something else that doesn't require quite so much R+D, like a nice cage.
MAGILLA
06-05-2007, 05:30 AM
just wondering anyone made their own rucas?? any info im thinking about making my own, any input would be cool
It isn't worth the time and effort. I got my footwerks for under 200 and have been very happy with them. I have access to the equipment to make a set between my school and a friends shop. In my opinion unless you have some special application in mind just buy a set. here is a a picture of mine. I don't think you could build a safe set for under 200.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/a99skillz/IMAGE_00103.jpg
CA18_S13
06-05-2007, 06:21 AM
A custom cage is better but for rucas why go custom unless you have a better way to make them or a new design, might as well buy the ones that have been used on alot of track bulit cars. Why do you say some companies look like shit the all look like they use good materials or just get battle version ones Alex Pfeiffer.
dirtdiggler666
06-05-2007, 11:50 AM
ca s13 you kinda have a point well i know i can make them stronger but is it really needed. well it was just an idea to throw out their, but thanks for the input guys maby its just me i like custom shit.
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