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uthemofo
05-24-2007, 01:27 PM
Alright I have a question, I am going to buy this S13 and its pretty far from my house and I'm going to trailor it home but, the problem is the guy lost the keys for it and the steering wheel is locked. I have no way of getting it onto the trailor this was and i was wondering if there is a way to unlock it so i can turn the wheels.

thanks guys
matt

s13gold
05-24-2007, 01:28 PM
pretend like you stole it...

take out the ignition cylinder and replace it with a new one from your local auto parts dealer...or online...make sure the years are the same.

uthemofo
05-24-2007, 01:35 PM
yea its not that easy to just replace the ignition cylinder because they use the anit theft brake off bolts which you have to drill then easy out to get them off.
ive done it before

any other way? i would like to take the car home and get keys made from AAA for free because I do have AAA plus, might as well use it.

TheWolf
05-24-2007, 02:24 PM
Dude... call locksmith have him come out and cut a key on site. I had one come out and crank out two new keys for mine when I lost mine. Took an hour or so and was $105. Anything short of that will be painful. Please don't start removing ignition cylinders. Soon you'll have a key for the ignition, one for the door, and one for the trunk if you keep that up.

uthemofo
05-24-2007, 02:30 PM
yea exactly my point why i dont want to have to change the cylinder. Do you think I sould call AAA and have them come out and do it, its free.

Rayne
05-24-2007, 02:33 PM
yea exactly my point why i dont want to have to change the cylinder. Do you think I sould call AAA and have them come out and do it, its free.

It's either that or go to a local dealership with the vin number and proof that you own the car.

nissanguy13
05-24-2007, 02:36 PM
thats kind of jacked up if the seller is making you deal with it. Why isnt he the one paying to get a new key made?

uthemofo
05-24-2007, 02:37 PM
cause the car is cheap and he wants to get rid of it

slownslurious
05-24-2007, 02:41 PM
I'd go out and tell AAA its your car and you just lost your key... I really did lose my key while jogging and they came and cut me 2 new keys for free ( I have plus memebership too)
if they know its a car you just bought they probably won't cover it though. act like its yours and just lost your key.

projectRDM
05-24-2007, 02:45 PM
It's either that or go to a local dealership with the vin number and proof that you own the car.

Dealers only keep the key codes for 10 years back in most cases.

Sir
05-24-2007, 03:45 PM
they cant a key for my 98 :(
pull the door handle, bring it to locksmith. done
Cheaper than having them come out if you don't have AAA. $24 for my key.

i need tires
05-24-2007, 03:49 PM
Remove the trunk tumbler and have a key cut by a locksmith. remember to TAKE to the locksmith it will be alot cheaper...

Jung918
05-24-2007, 04:07 PM
If you look in the glove compartment, there is a sticker with a key #. Never used it but it could help.

swayray
05-24-2007, 04:11 PM
if you have other nissan keys.. try them... see if they work...

shhhh... don't tell anyone else... ok?

uthemofo
05-24-2007, 06:21 PM
yup tried ALL of my nissan keys... no luck

ctm_motortrends
05-24-2007, 06:42 PM
Dealers only keep the key codes for 10 years back in most cases.


The guy everyone loves to hate..Haha....I Love this guy makes me laugh all the time +1 green for you because your the best...:rawk:

TheWolf
05-24-2007, 06:52 PM
I have a feeling this car is a gutted shell or is missing an engine or something. AAA isn't going to cut the key if they see the car.

amanalone11
05-24-2007, 07:18 PM
Use the glove box number to have a key made, my key got so dull it would hardly work and was falling out of my ignition, so i went to a locksmith, gave him the number and voila a brand new perfect key, it even says datsun on it just like the oem key.

Unit-121
05-24-2007, 07:35 PM
SIR has a good point take it to a lock smith if the lock smith goes to the car instead of you bringing the car to him (wich you can't) he will carge you about $75.Trust dont go to the dealer they were charging me about 250 for two keys . The locksmith charge me $85 for two keys. It's the only way to go.

uthemofo
05-24-2007, 08:36 PM
naw the car isnt gutted its just very dirty inside, running car,
surprisingly very clean exterior, only thing is, is that it has on a
doughnut, but im going to put on a regular wheel before they come.


The REAL QUESTION IS PEOPLE
Is there any way i can unlock the steering wheel without a key????????

just need to load it on the trailor and take it home

eastcoastS14
05-24-2007, 08:43 PM
the owner will have to be there with you...usually AAA wont do anything unless the owner is there and the car has plates on it....so make sure you got both

bamaboy
05-24-2007, 08:55 PM
you aren't getting that steering wheel unlocked without keys playa

sleepy_s13
05-24-2007, 09:08 PM
there is a code in the glove box for the keys a locksmith should be able to make you one

slownslurious
05-24-2007, 09:39 PM
slide bar hammer will destroy the steering wheel lock but thats not a cool solution.

oh and be careful using trunk/door keys, make sure they use all the pins the ignition ones do, on a lot of foreign/older cars, the door keys only use the first 3 pins or so.

projectRDM
05-24-2007, 10:25 PM
there is a code in the glove box for the keys a locksmith should be able to make you one

Use the glove box number to have a key made

To both of you, read above. The key code is only for the dealer to use and they do not keep that information after 10 years. 99% of the time the code is long gone before the new owner gets the car. *If* on the off chance it still exists in the glovebox they may be able to cut a key, but doubtful.

Best bet, pull the rear latch and key it, it's the easiest to get out on either chassis and is the least likely to be worn out.

s13silvia123
05-24-2007, 10:30 PM
i just broke mine off when i had my parts s13 cause i lost the key.

ch1873857
05-24-2007, 10:41 PM
the lock cylinder is easy as shit to get off guys. i did have a 16 year nissan tech teach me the trick but. 2 things you can do. get access to the the gold color bolts that bolt the top and bottom piece of the lock cylinder together. they wont have any kind of way to get them out ( no + or - or hex) no need for drilling. these bolts are barely tourqued ( slightly tighter than hand tightened)

either 1. take a center punch or anything with a good point and a hammer. pick a spot on the outside of the bolt (its sunken into the lock cylinder itself) so you have something to wedge it between and keep it still. hold the center punch at angle as to when you hit it with a hammer the center punch will essentially punch into the soft bolt and unscrew. its really hard to explain but this is a simple concept. again these bolts are not tight.

2. which is what we had to do because when we bought the car off the guy, he had shit for tools in his garage. i went through this same thing. i located a nifty hacksaw. yes folks a hacksaw. since the bolts are sunken into the lock cylinder you have to cut into the lockcylinder itself to cut into the bolt. dont worry its not much and thats really weak aluminum. the right bolt( if your facing the steering wheel is really the only one i could get to but i just cut a - into it running parallel with the car. take a flathead and unscrew that bitch. you will be surprised at how loose they are. you cant use the lock cylinder anymore so what i did what took the same flathead and pry the top and bottom half of the cylinder apart. again. its weak, dont be afraid to put force into it. basically i pried it apart until i could just slide it over the steering column. done.

ImporteXBUILT
05-24-2007, 10:49 PM
Anyone know the price to get new keys and locks for both doors, ignition and the rear hatch?

FaLKoN240
05-25-2007, 12:20 AM
The guy everyone loves to hate..Haha....I Love this guy makes me laugh all the time +1 green for you because your the best...:rawk:

You can't give green. You have TWO RED squares. LOL.

slownslurious
05-25-2007, 07:33 AM
a locksmith can cut keys off the impression of the ignition cylinder without removing it, but they can also cut one off the cylinder if you bring it to them. when you stick a blank key in, it will pop up all the pins and they can judge by how far the pins stick up and cut it by code that way.
I just had to have a key cut that way for my GSXR.
oh, and another fun story- the wheels on my old escort were stuck on the hubs when my dad and I were doing a brake job, and we couldn't get one of em off, so my dad just started fucking kicking it like really hard, putting his weight behind it. finally it came lose, but before it did, he kicked it so hard it broke the steering lock, and it never worked after that.
I doubt that will work with your nissan though (but it does serve as a reminder as to why the ignition lock should never be the sole safeguard when towing on the front wheels).

koukimonster139
05-25-2007, 07:54 AM
lol are you fucking joking


ive been using some random z32 key to start and unlock my car for like a year

ive also used my old s14 key on my new s14, and used my z32 key on a friends s14.

the keys are like all the same especially if theyre worn out like most are. just stick it in there, jiggle fuck it around and it should turn

jkperformance
05-25-2007, 01:03 PM
your best bet is most likely to pull the passenger side door handle, as the tumblers in it will have the least wear. take it to a locksmith, and within a few minutes, he'll have a new key cut for you. The doorhandle was one of the easiest i've pulled on a car, you just pull the door panel, 2 10mm nuts, and slide two clips of the interior and latch rods, and the handle pops out. I just had mine done about a week and a half ago, cost me a whopping 15$ for two keys, cut, matched and working. The glovebox sadly only uses the second half of they cut for the key, so it won't work for you.

Vision Garage
05-25-2007, 01:11 PM
so any update? You should really jsut get a locksmith. Be in and out with 2 hours

slownslurious
05-25-2007, 01:52 PM
lol are you fucking joking


ive been using some random z32 key to start and unlock my car for like a year

ive also used my old s14 key on my new s14, and used my z32 key on a friends s14.

the keys are like all the same especially if theyre worn out like most are. just stick it in there, jiggle fuck it around and it should turn
people kept saying this and I've owned 4 240's and I have extra keys from all of them and I brought them to a meet just for shits and giggles and we tried like 8 different 240sx keys in my car and none of them would turn any of the locks, and we tried with a couple other cars with the same result.
It just depends on how worn out and slutty the lock is... I mean I remember in highschool my friend had a '69 CJ-7 we could start with the nail file on his swiss army knife (when his dad took away his keys).

lazierhobo
05-25-2007, 07:24 PM
if all you need to do is get it home, and deal with it there, why dont you just use a floor jack to move the front around and get it to the trailer.

we do this all the time at my shop when kids leave their cars in annoying places and we dont have the keys.

johngriff
05-27-2007, 09:40 PM
Open the glove box, get the KEY number.

Take the number to a locksmith that works with Automobiles. Tell him the number, he will cut the key. Take key to car.

Done.