The Dark Knight Thread

[exitspeed]

Now IMO Jack Nicholson was THE great villian in movie history as the Joker. And when I heard that Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker for the next Batman, I was disappointed to say the least. HOWEVER, now that I see THIS:

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/790/790237/the-dark-knight-20070521072926061.jpg

Holy crap he looks like a total nutball! It's a lot darker look for the series, but I must admit he looks great. Now let's hope he can nail the insaneness of the Joker.

[s13rookie]

he does look crazy in the pic, i would never have guessed that is him. jack was the man as the joker, if heath can do 1/2 as well it should be good. But than again, jack looks evil/crazy with no makeup.......


Heath needs a good movie to redeem himself after "brothers grimm"

[arkive43]

when i first saw that pic i got chills, the new batman movies are a lot darker in which they should be.

[koukikat180sx]

that's creepy... :(

[BustedS13]

yeah, i'm glad they're trying to erase the memory of the last like four batman movies. seriously, gayest movies ever.

[drift-it]

Looks dumb I'm a huge fan of batman when I was a kid, the older movies kicked ass. The new one sucked, and if heath ledger is playing the joker then what is the world coming to.

[exitspeed]

The first and second Batman movies are great. Jack as the Joker and Divito as the Penguin were just perfect castings and stellar performances.

[unwed_transient]

i think ledger will do a good job.

norton has done some pretty dark stuff, but he doesn't have the face.

[Baka Sama]

A better option would have been Philip Hoffman. I think he could have pulled off a nice joker after seeing him in MI:3.

[Dunkee]

I love the darker batman..Jack takes the cake but I like where they're going w/ this.

[C. Senor]

he does look pretty crazy...i really hope he does a good job, the joker is my favorite batman villian, so i hope he doesnt mess it up.

[SochBAT]

I Believe In Harvey Dent Too!

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHhaahHAHAHHaHaHaHaHahah.

[See You In December]

Cmon Mel, you forgot that part!

The trailer is due out December.

Ledger does look pretty damn dark, and i gotta say, i love the direction.

Batman = Dark. Not Campy.

Although, the 60's Batman won my heart in terms of funny campiness.

[OptionZero]

Michelle Pfeiffer + Catwoman = Win

Fuck Heath Ledger. Mark Hamill should be the Joker.
He did the voice of Joker in Batman: The Animated Series, one of the best cartoons ever. We already know he's got the voice, slap some makeup on him and give us Jedi Joker.

[ManoNegra]

The first and second Batman movies are great.
+1

A better option would have been Philip Hoffman.
I see him more of an excellent new Penguin candidate.

Michelle Pfeiffer + Catwoman = Win
+1

[theronin]

Jack was incredible, however they are going for a different feel with these new Batmans, and judging by the pic it will probably be very well done. I feel Heath Ledger will be a very good Joker.

[azndoc]

Damn he does look pretty dark in that pic.

Like a joker gone insane ass looking.

[drifting_changed_mylife]

looks pretty sick! i liked the last batman so ill probly see this one to. ill let u guys know

[ThatGuy]

Any of you guys seen the fan film, Batman: Dead End? It's basially Batman vs. Predator vs. Aliens. Corny concept I know, but the Joker in it, Andrew Koenig, is how I picture the character being played the best. If Heath can pull it off as insane as the guy in that short film did, then I might be able to forget he was in that movie with the "Mountain".

Andrew Koenig = My favorite Live action Joker so far.
Mark Hamil = The BEST Joker voice EVER! "Hello Batsy!"

edit: Here's the video for those who don't know.
http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End_Full_Screen.mpg

[IIIXziuR]

I dunno, I don't think Heath is going to do such a great job.
As everyone stated Joker from the first film was great. But I am interested to see what this new film will offer. I felt the last Batman film "...begins" was not too bad. It pummeled all the Marvel offerings IMO.

[OptionZero]

Any of you guys seen the fan film, Batman: Dead End? It's basially Batman vs. Predator vs. Aliens. Corny concept I know, but the Joker in it, Andrew Koenig, is how I picture the character being played the best. If Heath can pull it off as insane as the guy in that short film did, then I might be able to forget he was in that movie with the "Mountain".

Andrew Koenig = My favorite Live action Joker so far.
Mark Hamil = The BEST Joker voice EVER! "Hello Batsy!"

edit: Here's the video for those who don't know.
http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End_Full_Screen.mpg

Awesome, you remember the voice too!
There was another fan film that was about Dick Grayson (i think it was titled "Grayson, but i can't remember offhand). It was badass, he was married to Barbara Gordon, had Superman and other superhero cameos.

EDIT: Here's the link- http://theforce.net/fanfilms/nonsw/grayson/

[HalveBlue]

I think Ledger can pull it off.

I was very impressed with Batman begins. While the Tim Burton version was great in its own right, I definitely like the new Batman franchise better. I guess, for me, they just have the look and feel that the whole Batman concept evokes.

I just hope they keep going with what they started and don't fuck it up.

Batman: The Animated Series was one of the best animated shows I've ever seen. I wish they would make more cartoons like that these days.

[Edgar]

cartoons of today suck!!!!!

[ThatGuy]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1435/heathjokerpa6.jpg

[mRclARK1]

I watched the Batman series on re-runs when I was a little kid, and thought it was the funniest thing. I just can't take any of the new Batman stuff seriously. *BAP!!* *WOOP!* *POW!* :keke:

[JDMS1lv1a]

they couldnt have picked anybody better than Jack Nicholson to play the Joker in the first film.Heath might pull it off from the looks of the pic.cant really tell how well hes gonna do by the pic...we'll see

[street240]

A better option would have been Philip Hoffman. I think he could have pulled off a nice joker after seeing him in MI:3.
He would be a great penguin....

[SimpleS14]

ThatGuy - That poster does make the Joker one dark and crazed mofo...I can't wait to see this movie. I hope its as good at Batman Begins...which didn't have alot of flashy, bang-wiz action..but was still a good watch.

[JDMS1lv1a]

IMO it seems like they are gonna remake all Batman films and include villians from previous films like "Returns" and "Forever" and possibly villians from the animated series which never starred in any Batman film...as for the new Batman,i agree that poster makes Joker look like a sick minded human

Muuhahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha

[kuroichiyon]

The last Batman with Katie was pretty good too. The mansion burned a little too quick though. The effects were sweet with the villan and his burlap bag mask, creepy.

[ALTRNTV]

I wish the new Joker would look like this, much better right? It would scare the shit out of me if I saw it.

http://www.evilkumquat.com/images/michael_jackson_joker.jpg

[xblack240x]

^ LOL LOL thats scary and funny at the same time...

Anyways, Jack Nicholson always plays good bad people (if that makes sense), but this new joker looks pretty crazy...

[ALTRNTV]

^
He plays the role of the villain very well, is what you mean. lol

[Cam B]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1435/heathjokerpa6.jpg

Sick Nasty :bigok:

[exitspeed]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1435/heathjokerpa6.jpg

Where did you get that from? Yea he looks fuckin whacked out. Perfect.

[liv2drift045]

Where did you get that from? Yea he looks fuckin whacked out. Perfect.


yea it does haha

lol @ the mike jackson joker haha

[Vision Garage]

I swear the joker better not try to make out with batman (brokeback moment)

[SochBAT]

MJ Joker was GOLDEN!

[chmercer]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/greysnyper/Batman66/f15c1131.jpg

[santacruisin]

^^^wtf? nice find!

The last Batman definately delivered. It was dark and started the franchise off fresh in a direction that didn't feel like BS. I always hated the OG Batman movie b/c it was too 80's and had that douchebag Michael Keaton as the Bat.

Nicholson scared me as the joker when I was a kid. he did a really good job. He's still got it in the Departed, too!

[ALTRNTV]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r45/ChrisLe182/dent.jpg

http://ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/

[BustedS13]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r45/ChrisLe182/dent.jpg

http://ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/

http://www.payformyabortion.com/

:eek:

[ALTRNTV]

Cast:
Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman, and Colin McFarlane (the police commissioner) reprise their respective roles
Joker - Heath Ledger
Harvey Dent/Two Face - Aaron Eckhart
Rachel Dawes - Maggie Gyllenhaal
Gotham City Mayor - Nestor Carbonell
Mafia Boss - Eric Roberts

Rumored are Cillian Murphy as Scarecrow/Dr. Crane and rapper/actor David Banner as Gamble, a villain alongside Joker.

[SochBAT]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r45/ChrisLe182/dent.jpg

http://ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/

Ctrl A.

[Baka Sama]

Guys went a little over board with quoting pictures..:ugh:

[Unholy S14]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1435/heathjokerpa6.jpg

yea that was a photoshop

[Baka Sama]

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7084/brokebackgothamuv6.jpg :keke:

[unwed_transient]

awesome. aaron eckhart is good.

and lol @ brokeback gotham

[Dunkee]

some new tid bits

http://movies.ign.com/articles/792/792292p1.html

[Grendel]

I really hope Ledger does a good job as Joker... Batman Begins really turned the franchise around, hopefully it keeps going strong.

I hope they will eventually make a movie based off the whole knightfall storyline, the Bane they showed in Batman and Robin was such a fucking joke :(

*edit* Just watched that Grayson fan film... Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, just about every batman villian... damn that would be an awesome movie :p

[Shaminii]

The poster is a fan photoshop.

Isn't Harvey Dent Two-Face? I've been watching the old cartoons and I Two-Face's real name is Harvey. If not...I apologize for my stupidity.

[ThatGuy]

Yes, Harvey Dent is Two-Face.

He is the District Attorney for Gotham and gets acid thrown on him in court. The acid burns half of his face and he goes crazy.

You can read up on him here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Face

[exitspeed]

New Poster.
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/839/839630/the-dark-knight-20071204062534530.jpg

[ThatGuy]

Exitspeed: For all your Hollywood news.

:rawk:

[exitspeed]

And you know this...MAAAANNNN!
http://media.movieweb.com/news/05.2005/tucker.jpg

[MrMcgarrett]

Teaser trailer:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedarkknight/hd/

Heath Ledger sounds like he's playing Jack playing the Joker.

[ziptiedae86]

***WARNING: Spoilers!! (only first 6 mins of the movie and no vid, sorry)

http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/more/first_six_minutes_of_the_dark_knight_debuted_on_im ax_in_nyc/


The beginning sounds badass, can't wait to see it!

[jackjack]

^they were talking about it this morning on the radio. i've said this plenty of times before but........... they are going to be showing the 6 minutes of footage in front of "i am legend" at the imax. get your tickets ready. :bigok:

edit* just read it. KICK ASS.

heath ledger looks good......... found this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mp57vaEH76E&feature=related

[fliprayzin240sx]

I wanna see that 6 min clip!!!

Anyways, did anybody see this?
http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/C343/

[S13Boosts]

wtf is that!:axe:

[ThatGuy]

Positive Rep to the first person that posts that 6 minute clip when it's released on the web.

I can't wait to see it.

[exitspeed]

Positive Rep to the first person that posts that 6 minute clip when it's released on the web.

I can't wait to see it.

You can just give it to me know I guess. :wavey:

[ManoNegra]

wow, I have an e-bonner now. May have to go see I Am Legend now...

[Antihero983]

i love the new darker batman movies! its about fucking time.

and i had no idea mark hamill did the joker's voice, he did a damned good job!

[ThatGuy]

Mark Hamil's voice has been the epitome of The Joker voice in my mind. "Hello Batsy! Hahahahahahahahah!!!"

I'm excited to see a live action character actually fully encompass the Joker's madness. Jack was entertaining, but he wasn't "MAD". I hope Heath pulls it off.

[s13Dr1ft]

The new series is based off of the Arkam(sp?) Series. Darker more intense.
If it TRULY is following the series than the joker will be a morbid fucker. I cant wait to see it.

[exitspeed]

Mark Hamil's voice has been the epitome of The Joker voice in my mind. "Hello Batsy! Hahahahahahahahah!!!"

I'm excited to see a live action character actually fully encompass the Joker's madness. Jack was entertaining, but he wasn't "MAD". I hope Heath pulls it off.

Really? Really? I think he was NUTS. The part where he shoots that guy in the office like 20 times in different positions, or when he gives that guy a hand shake and fries'em? IMO Jack was THE best comic book villain in movie history.

To each their own I guess.

[ThatGuy]

Granted, those two scenes were nice. But he just didn't have the level of intensity in his voice and actions.

The Joker in my eyes should be strung out and always on the verge of cracking. Jack is just too laid back of a guy to me."Wait'll they get a load of me" came out too smooth and not sinister.

http://z.about.com/d/comicbooks/1/7/q/G/joker22.jpg

Not saying Jack didn't do a good job, because he did. It MAY be the best a villain has ever been portrayed. I just want more from The Joker!

[k's_silvia2.0]

Now thats a villan not a clown.

[ManoNegra]

To this day The Joker in A Death In The Family has been the epitome for me. As for films - Nicholson was cool but not dark/mad/murderous/insane enough for my tastes.

[exitspeed]

Granted, those two scenes were nice. But he just didn't have the level of intensity in his voice and actions.

The Joker in my eyes should be strung out and always on the verge of cracking. Jack is just too laid back of a guy to me."Wait'll they get a load of me" came out too smooth and not sinister.

Not saying Jack didn't do a good job, because he did. It MAY be the best a villain has ever been portrayed. I just want more from The Joker!

Fair enough.

Michelle Pfeiffer is a close second...I wanted to kill her and hump her at the same time.

[ThatGuy]

I still like the Joker in "Dead End". Before he gotten eaten by an Alien.

I don't think I've seen "A Death in the Family". :(

[exitspeed]

Best artist to ever do Batman.

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2047788.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0EDD22899A741CA63B5 5A5397277B4DC33E

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/donbeast/jim_lee_Batman-europa.jpg

[ManoNegra]

I still like the Joker in "Dead End". Before he gotten eaten by an Alien.

I don't think I've seen "A Death in the Family". :(

I was referring to the comics. The story when the Joker kills off the second Robin.

[ThatGuy]

Ahhh, ok .

My mistake. :D

[muddafakka]

If you guys get a chance, be sure to check out the Batman: The Long Halloween. The Dark Knight's storyline is being inspired by it along with Year One and the Man Who Falls. Really good stuff.

[SochBAT]

That image has been floating around for a long time.

The sites i always visit for movie crap updates are cool.

filmwad.com
slashfilm.com
digg.com

Have you seen the new batsuit? Its fucking COOOOL AS SHIT! WHITE EYES!

[s13Dr1ft]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/empirejoker.jpg

[ThatGuy]

White eyes Cheat?
http://www.firstshowing.net/img/darkknight-batsuit.jpg

[s13Dr1ft]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/1146381152_435e800209.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/1146380778_c2dfdf70ee.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/1146379746_cb6afcc7f0.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/1145536265_f6a8743a12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/1145533743_b344a3f939.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/925816310_483bfdf463.jpg

[SochBAT]

Forgot the source, but mentioned a reworked Bat Mask. More technology based, all that good jazz.

IIRC, he can switch on the 'white eyes' which pretty much work as night/thermal/BatVision. Cool concept, bringing him one step closer to the darker comics' look.

[ThatGuy]

^Nice. I hadn't heard that. Thanks! :D

[SochBAT]

Oh yea. And this is one of my favorites.

http://www.superherohype.com

You've probably seen it before, but oh well.

http://www.comingsoon.net/images/newbatmansuit.jpg

http://www.firstshowing.net/2007/08/16/holy-frickin-dark-knight-tons-of-new-batman-and-joker-photos/

http://www.firstshowing.net/img/darkknight-batpod3.jpg

http://www.firstshowing.net/img/darkknight-batpod4.jpg

comics2film.com:

Batman will have some new tricks up his sleeve. The report indicates he has sliding white lenses in his mask, which can be opened or closed to enhance his unearthly appearance.

Also stated in the batsuit wiki. yes, i know wiki is easily altered, but it was dead on when Begins came out.

[SochBAT]

Oh yea. And this one.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_sGLSsLiJtiU/R1XWp83YszI/AAAAAAAAAHo/rjIvgvVyGV0/s400/postersmall.jpg

[ThatGuy]

Hey Cheat, this post started out today's update. :D
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php?p=1690999&postcount=52
:keke:

[Daniel.]

Reading this thread has totally hyped me up for the movie all over again.

fap fap fap

[SochBAT]

hahah. I guess it was just a case of the "TL: DR"

Oops is an understatement.

Damn i feel like such a n00b.

[muddafakka]

The batpod (correct me if that's not what it's called) looks serious.

Are we going to see any upgrades to the tumbler?

[Antihero983]

all i hafta say is, christian bale better keep doing these movies, he's an amazing actor and a damned good batman.

[muddafakka]

all i hafta say is, christian bale better keep doing these movies, he's an amazing actor and a damned good batman.

I couldn't agree more. Best person to play Batman imo. Chris Nolan did a really good job with Begins. There were a few things I didn't like but overall it was great.

[jfc3po]

Anthony Michael Hall has a part in the movie too....no idea what part though....

[HalveBlue]

Best artist to ever do Batman.

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/2047788.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934A2752006EF5F0EDD22899A741CA63B5 5A5397277B4DC33E

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/donbeast/jim_lee_Batman-europa.jpg

I like Alex Ross.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/HalveBlue/batmanbw6_lg.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/HalveBlue/BatmanScarsbyAlexRoss.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/HalveBlue/TheJokerbyAlexRoss.jpg

The last one is my favorite. I want to get a full size print of it and frame it.

[kingkilburn]

I wish we had new comics with an atmosphere on par with Gotham City in the '40s. I like the tech driven air of the new movies but I think the Batman cartoon from the early '90s was dead on.

[jfc3po]

Cast:
Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman, and Colin McFarlane (the police commissioner) reprise their respective roles
Joker - Heath Ledger
Harvey Dent/Two Face - Aaron Eckhart
Rachel Dawes - Maggie Gyllenhaal
Gotham City Mayor - Nestor Carbonell
Mafia Boss - Eric Roberts

Rumored are Cillian Murphy as Scarecrow/Dr. Crane and rapper/actor David Banner as Gamble, a villain alongside Joker.

david banner was just a rumor...Michael Jai White will be playing Gamble....for those of you who don't know who he is, he's the guy that played spawn in the spawn movie..

[jeeper_x]

^^^Undisputed II: Last Man Standing.....he was good in that movie....you guys should watch it.....the fight scenes are one of the best i seen....

[jackjack]

can you imagine batman (bale) vs. gamble (white)?!?!?!?!?!............sssssssssssssssick fight scene.

[Unholy S14]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1435/heathjokerpa6.jpg

thats a photoshop

[ThatGuy]

^That was established back when I first posted it in this Thread.

I never claimed it wasn't a Photoshop. It's still a cool picture.

[steve shadows]

hahhahahahahaa

[s13Dr1ft]

The batpod (correct me if that's not what it's called) looks serious.

Are we going to see any upgrades to the tumbler?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/576045776_3ed8fe94da.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/824823161_c6f5d4a3a2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Kouki180/857017506_3e2cc5b1d8.jpg

[muddafakka]

Heh maybe it'll have an LS9 this time around.

[jfc3po]

can you imagine batman (bale) vs. gamble (white)?!?!?!?!?!............sssssssssssssssick fight scene.

hell yeah...

Michael Jai White's a fuckin G....haha

[Antihero983]

k, noob question. who the fuck is gamble?

[jfc3po]

k, noob question. who the fuck is gamble?

he wasn't in the comics or the cartoons i believe....i think they just created him to throw another villain in this movie.....

there's also rumors that Freddy Prinze JR will be playing The Riddler in the next two installments....but to debunk that, there's also a rumor that the character that Anthony Michael Hall is playing in "The Dark Knight" eventually becomes The Riddler, which i think would be awesome...only problem is i thought the Riddler's real name was Edward Nigma.....

[fliprayzin240sx]

he wasn't in the comics or the cartoons i believe....i think they just created him to throw another villain in this movie.....

there's also rumors that Freddy Prinze JR will be playing The Riddler in the next two installments....but to debunk that, there's also a rumor that the character that Anthony Michael Hall is playing in "The Dark Knight" eventually becomes The Riddler, which i think would be awesome...only problem is i thought the Riddler's real name was Edward Nigma.....

hehe...riddler...i like him as a villain better than the joker. Joker is just insane, The Riddler will brain fuck you first, then kill you. E. Nigma...:bigok: I hate The Penguin, hope the polar ice caps melts and he dies with it.

[jeeper_x]

he wasn't in the comics or the cartoons i believe....i think they just created him to throw another villain in this movie.....

there's also rumors that Freddy Prinze JR will be playing The Riddler in the next two installments....but to debunk that, there's also a rumor that the character that Anthony Michael Hall is playing in "The Dark Knight" eventually becomes The Riddler, which i think would be awesome...only problem is i thought the Riddler's real name was Edward Nigma.....

no, it was his first alias name......his real name was Eddie Nashton.....:aw:

[ThatGuy]

What about Harley Quinn? Are we gonna see her in Dark Knight?
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2401/harleyquinnei3.jpg

Maybe in a sequel, as long as they don't make the movie mistake of killing off the joker in only one movie. :duh:

[exitspeed]

^
I'd Harley her Quinn...

I haven't heard anything about her character in the movie. Here's the whole cast list according to IMB.

Christian Bale ... Bruce Wayne / Batman

Michael Caine ... Alfred Pennyworth

Heath Ledger ... The Joker

Maggie Gyllenhaal ... Rachel Dawes

Gary Oldman ... Lt. James Gordon

Morgan Freeman ... Lucius Fox

Eric Roberts ... Salvatore Maroni

Aaron Eckhart ... Harvey Dent

Anthony Michael Hall ... Mike Engel

Monique Curnen ... Det. Ramirez

Nestor Carbonell ... Mayor

Joshua Harto ... Reese

Michael Jai White ... Gamble

Chucky Venice ... Gamble's Bodyguard

[ManoNegra]

What about Harley Quinn? Are we gonna see her in Dark Knight?

Maybe in a sequel, as long as they don't make the movie mistake of killing off the joker in only one movie. :duh:

I could be wrong but didn't the character (I forget her name) the becomes Harley make an appearance in the first film?

[CAPoweredS14]

If you guys like Christian that much have any of you seen "The Machinist"? Talk about an amazing performance and dedication to the art. Also, "Harsh Times" and of course, "American Psycho" were also very good movies also. Hell, in "American Psycho" he seemed like a Bruce Wayne in that movie when he wasn't killing people and having narcissitic sex with hookers..

I absolutely loved Jack as the Joker just because of the cool factor. I can watch that performance over and over. Tim Burton did very well like you all have stated and I know we've established most of the opinions as the first two being infinitely better than the last two. I would just like to say that if this goes well it will only strengthen my admiration for CB and let me trust another director and be put on the very short list I have of directors I will support.

[Saltman]

Jack was hilarious and at the same time ruthless. Extremely quick to kill someone. Remember, Bob didnt make it. "Why didn't somebody tell me he had one of those... things!!! Bob, gun. BANG!!"

[exitspeed]

"Ever dance with the devil under the pail moonlight?"

[CAPoweredS14]

"YOU WANNA GET NUTS!?!? C'MON, LETS GET NUTS.." Bruce Wayne

[Neejay]

Michael Jai White ... Gamble

He's a good actor...sounds like that's a better choice than David Banner lol

[ThatGuy]

"Never rub another man's rhubarb."

[jackjack]

The batpod (correct me if that's not what it's called) looks serious.

Are we going to see any upgrades to the tumbler?

its already been confirmed that the tumbler gets blown to hell in the movie. it was suppose to get destroyed in the 1st movie, but nolan couldnt do it. he liked it too much :bigok:

What about Harley Quinn? Are we gonna see her in Dark Knight?
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2401/harleyquinnei3.jpg

Maybe in a sequel, as long as they don't make the movie mistake of killing off the joker in only one movie. :duh:

nothing mentioned so far about quinn but anytings possible. maybe set it up for the 3? :bigok:

if scarecrow survived the first one (and is back for the second), i'm sure joker will. i'd like to see 2 end with him being thrown into arkham laughing like a mad man :loco: OOoOOOooOooOOoo maybe to be continued? ssssssssiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccckkkkkkkkk

[articdragon192]

As Lisa keeps telling me, Brittany Murphy would be the perfect person to play Harley Quinn.

[jackjack]

As Lisa keeps telling me, Brittany Murphy would be the perfect person to play Harley Quinn.


+78236478236482376478234682376 :bigok:



on another note. i'd like to see mr freeze (done right, stupid arnold ahahaha) and bane.

http://www.ezthemes.com/previews/m/mrfreeze1.jpg

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/722/bane010tu.jpg

:hsdance:

[SochBAT]

Bane can suck a cock and die on steroids. Never was a fan. To damn stupid.

They gotta bring on Clayface and fuck some shit up.

Seriously, shapeshifting + Clay = killer cosplay ass-kicking.

Or Killer Croc. Fuck i'd love to see him.

[jackjack]

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/831/831903/the-dark-knight-20071031054510442.jpg (http://media.movies.ign.com/media/752/752133/image_frame.html?image_id=4&screenshot_id=4746613)

[Daniel.]

Bane can suck a cock and die on steroids. Never was a fan. To damn stupid.

They gotta bring on Clayface and fuck some shit up.

Seriously, shapeshifting + Clay = killer cosplay ass-kicking.

Or Killer Croc. Fuck i'd love to see him.

Bane is actually the most intelligent nemesis that Batman has ever had.

Edit: "one of the most intelligent" not the most.

[ThatGuy]

When I researched Harley Quinn, I actually found a rumor about Sarah Michelle Gellar playing her. Back in her "Buffy" days, I could totally see it.

I don't know about now though.

Whoever it is needs to be HOT in a skin tight black and red outfit and be able to play a whacked out bitch.

[exitspeed]

Whoever it is needs to be HOT in a skin tight black and red outfit and be able to play a whacked out bitch.

I think Brittany Murphy would be able to handle that pretty well. Any girl willing to do a sex scene in a movie where she licks her hand and rubs in on her female genitalia to moisten it up is OK in my book.

[Daniel.]

I think Brittany Murphy would be able to handle that pretty well. Any girl willing to do a sex scene in a movie where she licks her hand and rubs in on her female genitalia to moisten it up is OK in my book.

Best scene she's EVER done. period. :bigok:

[Antihero983]

When I researched Harley Quinn, I actually found a rumor about Sarah Michelle Gellar playing her. Back in her "Buffy" days, I could totally see it.

I don't know about now though.

Whoever it is needs to be HOT in a skin tight black and red outfit and be able to play a whacked out bitch.

angelina jolie. done and done.

[articdragon192]

Too mature to do that. Murphy is a sure shot for that role. And what movie is that scene from?

[Neejay]

Bane can suck a cock and die on steroids. Never was a fan. To damn stupid.

They gotta bring on Clayface and fuck some shit up.

Seriously, shapeshifting + Clay = killer cosplay ass-kicking.

Or Killer Croc. Fuck i'd love to see him.hahahahahaha

[Neejay]

I think Brittany Murphy would be able to handle that pretty well. Any girl willing to do a sex scene in a movie where she licks her hand and rubs in on her female genitalia to moisten it up is OK in my book.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry for off-topic, but what moive was that?

[exitspeed]

Too mature to do that. Murphy is a sure shot for that role. And what movie is that scene from?

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry for off-topic, but what moive was that?

Hahhahaa, that got your guys attention I see.

8 Mile with Eminem.

[ThatGuy]

I could see Brittany Murphy in that role. It's all about the make-up, the outfit, and the oversized comical weapons anyway. :rawk:

[SimpleS14]

can you imagine batman (bale) vs. gamble (white)?!?!?!?!?!............sssssssssssssssick fight scene.


I agree that would be AWESOME.


Off-topic...but they should remake Spawn.

[jackjack]

^werd.

Goyer rocks. cant wait to see what they come up with.

[Daniel.]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X79Y4pTX_rQ&feature=related

FF to 4:50.

Mark Hamill got the joker's voice down pat. If heath can capture that, then it's all good.

[jackjack]

i think heath sounds good. from the small bit anyway.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1clvbS_33mk

[ThatGuy]

Yeah he sounds pretty good. We need more to go on though!!

So here's what I'm thinking.

By the end of "Dark Knight" Joker ends up in Arkham Asylum. While there, he meets a young psychiatrist named Dr. Harleen Quinzel. She falls in love with him and helps him escape to become his partner in crime in a future sequel. "Don't worry Mr. J. We'll get that nasty old Bat. Right Puddin'?"

Please Hollywood, don't be stupid and kill Joker in this movie. Batman vs. Joker is the quintessential rivalry. It could go on forever.

[jackjack]

some info that from the ign interview with nolan. full article here: http://movies.ign.com/articles/839/839933p1.html


IGN: Was Harvey Dent's transformation into Two-Face shot in IMAX?

Nolan: Gosh, I'm trying to remember ... We mixed in -- that depends on how you look at it. It's a hard one to answer, actually.

IGN: Judging from all the stills we've seen thus far, he hardly ever smiles. Do you think others have misinterpreted the character and thought he was supposed to be funny when he may actually be meant to be more ironic?

Nolan: There are different types of being funny. The sequence you've seen has a very dark sense of humor to it, I think. Very sardonic sense of humor to what he's doing and that's the way in which he's funny. And, yes, it's very easy to confuse that with a lot of smiling and a lot of laughing but what he does in the film is very difficult to capture in stills to be perfectly frank. It's one of the reasons we wanted to show this sequence as well, to get his introduction out there. It's the total package. It's the way he moves, the way he is, it's the way he inhabits the character. I'm just so excited by it. I think people will be really blown away by it.

IGN: How would you describe Joker's walk? It's not quite a limp. It's the first thing I noticed about the character. There's just something ... off.

Nolan: There's just a feel to it and you can't put your finger on it, and that's what I love about it. It's very original and very unique. It's a unique combination of elements. He would just blow me away every day on set. It was an incredible thing to watch.

IGN: And what about the decision to have Joker wear make-up rather than be altered by chemicals. Was it just easier from a storytelling perspective to have him wear make-up than to explain how chemicals changed him?

Nolan: Well, we never wanted to do an origin story for the Joker in this film. The arc of the story is much more Harvey Dent's; the Joker is presented as an absolute. It's a very thrilling element in the film, and a very important element, but we wanted to deal with the rise of the Joker not the origin of the Joker, if that makes sense.

IGN: So it's expected that the third film will focus more on Two-Face. Will it be a solo story for him or will there be another, secondary villain included in it?

Nolan: I wouldn't want to give away too much about this film, but the thing I will say, and I said it a lot about Batman Begins and it was genuinely the truth, is I don't think in terms of sequels. I think in terms of making this film the best film it can be and the most complete film it can be.

dark knight/imax vid. brief view of new batmobile.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLmWI7hllNA&feature=related


:bigok:

[Antihero983]

Yeah he sounds pretty good. We need more to go on though!!

So here's what I'm thinking.

By the end of "Dark Knight" Joker ends up in Arkham Asylum. While there, he meets a young psychiatrist named Dr. Harleen Quinzel. She falls in love with him and helps him escape to become his partner in crime in a future sequel. "Don't worry Mr. J. We'll get that nasty old Bat. Right Puddin'?"

Please Hollywood, don't be stupid and kill Joker in this movie. Batman vs. Joker is the quintessential rivalry. It could go on forever.


+1 to you. i agree completely.

[xamraci]

the sound clips of Ledger laughing...its bone chilling...the darkness of batman movies is here to stay for a while...

as long as there isnt some dumb George Clooney crap again...I will be okay...wtf was that garbage...?

[muddafakka]

dark knight/imax vid. brief view of new batmobile.........


Ah, so it looks like a Murcielago will be in there again.

[Grendel]

Bane can suck a cock and die on steroids. Never was a fan. To damn stupid.

They gotta bring on Clayface and fuck some shit up.

Seriously, shapeshifting + Clay = killer cosplay ass-kicking.

Or Killer Croc. Fuck i'd love to see him.

Bane was only retarded in the movie. In the comics he wasn't a bumbling idiot like that :p

I'd love to see them portray Mr. Freeze the same way they did in the comics, or Clayface. Those are both villians you can really feel for.

This thread is making me want to bust out my favorite TPB ever:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/batman-dark-knight-returns/1-1.jpg

If you haven't read it, go to a bookstore and buy it right NOW! :)

[ThatGuy]

Don't forget, Michael Jai White also strutted his stuff against Steven Segal in "Exit Wounds".

Fight scenes with him should be impressive.

[Neejay]

Bane was only retarded in the movie. In the comics he wasn't a bumbling idiot like that
That's true. In the comics, wasn't he an intelligent businessman (kinda)?
Don't forget, Michael Jai White also strutted his stuff against Steven Segal in "Exit Wounds".

Fight scenes with him should be impressive.
Yep. I actually like Michael Jai White. Most of his martial arts/fighting is realistic ever since I can remember.

[Antihero983]

so what happened in the comics after bane broke batman's back?

[SochBAT]

Bruce Wayne used his Force powers to repair himself.

It'd be cool to give hints to Dick Grayson.

I love Robin/Nightwing.

[jackjack]

^Nolan already said he has NO plans for robin....... ever. its all about the batman.

for ThatGuy :bigok:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgyNQw-mJPk&feature=related

[Kn1ves]

why was this not posted yet? or did i miss it?

http://www.fasthack.com/images/weblog/2007/08/dk-joker.jpg

[1Via!]

I'm hopeful for the movie and Ledger now that I see some of these new pics.

The darker the better, I say.

[shmiddy]

so what happened in the comics after bane broke batman's back?

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/f/f8/Bane-breaks-Batman-497pg21.png

[jackjack]

more pics. last one is of the opening scene in the movie.

http://host.trivialbeing.org/up/normal_Cinelive_Dec07.jpg
http://host.trivialbeing.org/up/normal_Joker_05.jpg
http://host.trivialbeing.org/up/Joker_06.jpg

[98s14inaz]

Michelle Pfeiffer + Catwoman = Win

Fuck Heath Ledger. Mark Hamill should be the Joker.
He did the voice of Joker in Batman: The Animated Series, one of the best cartoons ever. We already know he's got the voice, slap some makeup on him and give us Jedi Joker.

I did not know that was Hamill. I bow to your superior nerd knowledge.

[98s14inaz]

I think Brittany Murphy would be able to handle that pretty well. Any girl willing to do a sex scene in a movie where she licks her hand and rubs in on her female genitalia to moisten it up is OK in my book.

That Fox chick from transformers has my vote.

[Agent_S13]

so what happened in the comics after bane broke batman's back?

Nice picture above. :)

That Knightfall storyline started off well, introducing Bane but I think it ended weakly.

Bruce is up in bed while Jean-Paul (Azrael) takes over. He develops a new suit and challenges Bane. He eventually wins out but Bruce recovers and attempts to take the mantle back. He uses some psychological stuff to make Jean-Paul "forget" he was Batman and things are "back to normal".

Though, I think the ending was rushed due to the intense dislike of someone other than Bruce Wayne holding the mantle of the bat. DC has to revamp everything and change the storyline with people showing backlash to this new storyline development.

I'm really starting to enjoy the Nightwing stories where Dick always envisioned he would be the next Batman but realized that no one could ever replace Bruce.

While I know the "Hush" storyline is my favorite (partially because its drawn by Jim Lee) I think the "Murderer" storyline is much better since it shows all of his relationships with his supporting cast (Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl/Oracle and even Spoiler) and that he's quite fallible as both Bruce Wayne and Batman.

Anyways, back to the important point -- the movie! Thanks to everyone who's posting pics of the film!!! I think Nolan's doing it right as no one ever dies in a Batman film --- Scarecrow got away and anyone who thinks Ras "died" should be kicked in the crotch for good measure. :bigok:

Having that collection of villians either in Arkham or around Gotham will always present a constance presence or need for the Dark Knight to protect Gotham.

If this is one series that goes on and on, its one I'll be glad to wait for year after year.

Though, does anyone think if its written well and done at its own pace -- it could develop into the next "007: Bond" type franchise --- movies made every so often with the character fighting off a particular villain (or group of villians)? Just something to consider. =)

-Aaron
'91 240sx coupe

[jackjack]

http://images.comicbookresources.com/reel/darkknight/thedarkknight31gd8-1-1.jpg

watched this last night. ahhhhhh good times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEx9r5enZsk&feature=related

[SochBAT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JEa71aS3oU

Wins infinitely.

[muddafakka]

Wow it was refreshing to see those again. They don't make em' like they used to.

[canyonking]

I think he will pull off the joker pretty good, the makers of Batman begins didn't go wrong with who they chose for the first, I think they will pull it off with Dark Knight.

[muddafakka]

I think he will pull off the joker pretty good, the makers of Batman begins didn't go wrong with who they chose for the first, I think they will pull it off with Dark Knight.

The only person that didn't fit was Katie Holmes.

[jackjack]

more pics

http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/uploaded_images/batsuit_front-753005.jpg
http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/4381/2871/lo/dark_knight_14.jpg
http://reviews.starseeker.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/darkknight1.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/dane103/the-dark-knight-movie-stills-14-1.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g124/dane103/the-dark-knight-movie-stills-01.jpg
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/736/736397/gordon-batman-rooftop1_1159568432.jpg

[ThatGuy]

Cheat, definitely one of the best episodes. Too bad it was only a flashback.

[jackjack]

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/TheDarkKnight/darkknight-2.jpg (http://www.moviesonline.ca/gallery.php?movie=TheDarkKnight)

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/TheDarkKnight/darkknight-1.jpg (http://www.moviesonline.ca/gallery.php?movie=TheDarkKnight)

[SochBAT]

the ONE thing i don't like about the new costume is the cloak/mantle.

He doesn't look as intimidating as he should. Broad shoulders Batman was the shit.

He looks pencil-necked.

[articdragon192]

Cheat, definitely one of the best episodes. Too bad it was only a flashback.

That was definitely a great find. Cartoons back then overshadow what's out right now. "The Batman" just doesn't do it for me. I loved those old cartoons. And now they're redoing Spider for Kid's WB... gah... Why not just replay the old stuff, the good stuff. Kids these days just don't know!

[Dirty Dee]

here's the Dark Knight trailer smeone took w/ a camera phone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSKHQEwaM_A

[Daniel.]

here's the Dark Knight trailer smeone took w/ a camera phone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSKHQEwaM_A

HOLY SHIT FUCK YES

[exitspeed]

That's playing before I Am Legend correct?

[jackjack]

^yes..... only at the imax though. i have tickets for tonight. they're saying its better than the movie (i am legend) :keke:

new poster:



The Dark Knight International Poster


http://www.canmag.com/images/front/batman/darkknightposter2.jpg
The Dark Knight

[muddafakka]

Dammit they took the trailer down!

[exitspeed]

^yes..... only at the imax though. i have tickets for tonight. they're saying its better than the movie (i am legend) :keke:



Damn that sucks. They don't show movies on our IMAX.

I'm going to see I AM tomorrow despite the mixed reviews. I like to make my own mind up.

[SimpleS14]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjG2q5itxVM

[worangejuice]

OH MY GOD!!!!
I had to spoil it for myself, although i will have a total boner when I sees that in the theaters!!!!! I will see I am Legend, for the Dark Knight Trailer. Thanks dudes

[b-s14]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0iOjOaLwuw

up again before it gets closed

[muddafakka]

^ Awesome...thanks

[Nachtmensch]

fuck im so hyped for this now.

i remember when they were shooting in chicago. they blocked off lower waker dr completely. shit was nuts.

ive never been a HUGE batman fan, but this movie looks dark and how it should be. ugh, so excited for this to hit theatres.

[Full-Lock]

i made a new topic but deleted it.
didnt realize it was a repost

but this is the best one of found of the new leak..shot in the middle. not from the sides
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=23945117

[jackjack]

thats NOTHING. you guys should've seen the 6 minute opening scene (bank robbery/joker intro) at the imax. OMG. the audience was speechless. followed by a standing ovation. this is going to be the best movie of 08. Heath Ledger does a DAMN good job.

[Daniel.]

So I just have to say that I keep watching the new trailer over and over again. Even though the quality is totally shitty, I love it.

From what I can see, Heath did an EXCELLENT job.

[jackjack]

For all of you anxiously browsing the internet seeking out an official trailer for The Dark Knight (http://www.canmag.com/movies.php?moviekey=darkknight), you'd be better off waiting until Monday. Warner Bros (http://www.canmag.com/nw/9921-dark-knight-official-trailer-release#). has confirmed that the recent trailer leak has not upped the release of the official version online (http://www.canmag.com/nw/9921-dark-knight-official-trailer-release#).


The Dark Knight Trailer Monday


TrailerAddict (http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer-news/8) has confirmed with Warner Bros. that the online trailer release for The Dark Knight will not arrive until after the weekend.

While the recent leak of a bootlegged trailer for The Dark Knight had some speculating that we'd have the official, hi-res version by the end of the day, our source at Warner Bros. has confirmed that the studio remains adamant about holding off on the trailer/sneak preview's official release.

The official trailer for The Dark Knight will appear online in multiple formats Monday, December 17th. Any updates before that is likely the bootleg.



http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/7206/_1197650503.jpghttp://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/7206/_1197650514.jpg

[SochBAT]

I should post this stuff as i find it. I'd beat you all silly with my eDick.

I love teh New Joker.

Not Brokeback one bit.

[jackjack]

Positive Rep to the first person that posts that 6 minute clip when it's released on the web.

I can't wait to see it.


HURRY UP BEFORE THEY TAKE IT DOWN........ you HAVE to see this on the big screen to get the full effect as far as audio/visual goes (obviously). its CRAZY. you can almost smell the jokers breath.:drama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrZv9y-yk7w&eurl


another poster..............
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/whysoserious1.jpg

[Full-Lock]

^^holy shit
that was awesome

+rep

[SimpleS14]

+rep to you kind sir

GOOD FIND

[muddafakka]

Awesome! Good find.

Better quality trailer:
http://atasteforthetheatrical.com/deathtrap/default.htm

[jackjack]

^yes trailer #2 KICKS ASS. its available everywhere now. good stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPy5qYlTlRY&eurl

wonder if they'll ever post up the opening (first) 6 minutes in high quality. that would ROCK. i'll see if i can find it again since they took the other vid down from my previous post.

UPDATE: 6 minute opening scene again.... since they took the last vid down


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8IqDpWJMZ8

[Daniel.]

Yay high quality trailer ftw!

[jackjack]

from slashfilm.com:

Goyer talks batman

The screenwriter went on to say that the story was tweaked an tweaked again “because we really did not want to let down the fans. We had to figure out a way to top ourselves, and I think we have.”
What we know: The sequel will follow Batman as he enlists the aid of Gordon and Dent in “bringing down the Joker… but not killing him. In the third movie (http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/04/09/two-face-might-not-be-in-the-dark-knight/#), the Joker would go on trial, scarring Dent in the process,” screenwriter David Goyer previously revealed. So may-b e Dent won’t transform into Two-Face in the second film.

:aw:

even though it may be old news, just wanted to post it. some people know, some dont. so no two-face (only dent) in the dark knight. which is not surprising considering the footage from the offical trailer. some thought it would be both joker and two-face in the movie. i'm VERY happy about this. more time to focus on the joker (deserves it, obviously).

[IIIXziuR]

The Dark Knight trailer was sweet.
This film looks very good.
The DC universe films have been coming out excellent when they are transfered on to the silver screen.
I'm sorry I can't say the same for most of the Marvel universe films

[illvialuver]

I had no idea that was heath ledger, but all i know is that it looks like a very good comparison to the old joker. the preview I saw at I am legend made me want to watch it for sure.

[OptionZero]

FUCK their Joker. I know they were going for the "dark" look, but ...that's not the Joker.

Batman was awesome, but they totally undersold the most appealing aspect of Batman: he's a detective. He'll outthink and outprepare you and he'll crush you with stone cold logic, funded by Wayne Enterprises tech and resources.

This Batman is still too "action hero"...they've taken the darkness and angst, and visually its all good...but that's not batman. That's just a horde of other random wannabes.

The Joker is a worthy villain because he's the detective's worst nightmare: he's viscious, but ultimately completely insane. You can't predict it; he doesn't kill in a pattern, he doesn't even necessarily choose the most efficient way to kill the most people for least effort. He just does it for the hell of it, mostly.

The Joker's not a physical threat. In a straight up fight, most people , including regular cops could just crush him. The Joker wins, however, by lulling you into a false sense of security- you think h e's just a nut. But he'd probably bite your finger off or claw out ur eye, then stand there laughing at you. He's not some knife-wielding, gun-totting badass.

Thats my early take. Good for Hollywood, but ultimately...short of the real thing.

If it's not written by Frank Miller or Jeph Loeb and penned by Tim Sale, it's garbage.

[DRavenS13]

They have centered around Batman's origins, so they are going to focus more on Bruce getting the hang of being Batman. He is a detective, but he is also a chemist and has a horde of military-style weapons he's trying to get the hang of. This is why they chose someone that looked a little younger, same for the Joker. They've embraced the idea of making Batman something relatable to real life. He's not gonna run in and automatically know how to be a detective, and know how to be Batman. In this time in the comic world, he's pretty old. He didn't start to be Batman till his 30s. They've focused on Bruce coming into being Batman.

I think they nailed it pretty good with the Joker. He's not a practical jokes and tricks- there is no rhyme or reason to his insanity, he doesn't give a shit. He doesn't even care about his own life. They made him darker, edgier, more realistically insane. I'll admit I had my doubts on Heath Ledger being Batman, especially coming off that ghey ass Brokeback shit. But after seeing stills, and ESPECIALLY after having seen the preview, he's gonna be pretty awesome.

And to correct the above-stated, he has used firearms and weapons. He has trick guns- sometimes real, sometimes not. In The Killing Joke, he beat Jason Todd to death with a pipe or something like that. He is a physical threat because he's likely to have booby-trapped himself- again a sign that he shows no regard to his own self-preservation. He is also a chemist, which is how he developed the Joker-fish. His insanity is a dangerous one.

Chris Nolan has yet to let me down, and I don't think he's gonna start now.

[OptionZero]

The joker has used weapons, sure, but he has never demonstrated any proficiency with them, nor are they an essential element of his character. He's certainly not "knife wielding joker".

If he uses a knife it's cuz he happens to have a knife, or it's lying nearby.

I love Chris Nolan, but they've essentially lopped off one aspect of Batman that makes Batman Batman.

I want prep-time Batman.

[RedStage]

Looks good no matter how devoted a fan you are these movies are hands down better than the last few offerings.

Would be awesome to see if down the line they throw in that "Grayson" work.

[jackjack]

Batman was awesome, but they totally undersold the most appealing aspect of Batman: he's a detective. He'll outthink and outprepare you and he'll crush you with stone cold logic, funded by Wayne Enterprises tech and resources.

The Joker is a worthy villain because he's the detective's worst nightmare: he's viscious, but ultimately completely insane. You can't predict it; he doesn't kill in a pattern, he doesn't even necessarily choose the most efficient way to kill the most people for least effort. He just does it for the hell of it, mostly.

The Joker's not a physical threat. In a straight up fight, most people , including regular cops could just crush him. The Joker wins, however, by lulling you into a false sense of security- you think h e's just a nut. But he'd probably bite your finger off or claw out ur eye, then stand there laughing at you. He's not some knife-wielding, gun-totting badass.


batman's still young and starting out, as Nolan and Goyer have mentioned several times. He's still fresh/getting the hang of things.

heres a couple of points from mtv.com that i thought were good. full article here - http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1576589/story.jhtml

-1:20: "Wadda we got?" an unnamed police man asks Gordon. "Nothing," he responds. "No name. No other alias. Clothing is custom. Nothing in his pocket but knives and lint." The Joker is one of the most iconic villains of all time, but by way of a second character introduction, they don't get much better than this. By pointing out what the Joker doesn't have, we again see how he exists outside of society's rules. No name. No wallet. No identification. No store-bought clothing. No phone or money. Absolutely nothing that could tie him to the world at large. Horrifying.

-1:13: Shot of the Joker's knives. There appear to be too many for one man to fit on his person.

-1:11: The trailer's first money shot: our first in-film look at how Nolan and team have realized the Joker's makeup. "Evening, Commissioner," he sneers. (As far as we know, Gordon is not the commissioner yet in the Batman universe. He was a lieutenant at the end of "Begins.") The "realistic" makeup is chilling, not the least of all because of Ledger's "Glasgow Smile." (His lips and cheeks are cut horizontally to give a scarring appearance of a a smile.)

-1:04: The Joker grabs a man's face and screams his early catchphrase: "Why so serious?!" Paradoxically, what's interesting about this brief scene isn't what the Joker says, but to whom the Joker says it. He appears to be grabbing the head of a black man. There's a possibility it's Michael Jai White, who is playing a mob boss named Gamble (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/07/03/spawn-star-takes-a-gamble-on-dark-knight-role/). More tantalizing, however, is the possibility that it is Colin McFarlane, who played Commissioner Loeb in "Begins." Could it be that the Joker is about to execute the chief of police, paving the way for Gordon to rise to the top? We think so.

****-0:57: The Joker fires a bazooka into the city. A brief moment, this is yet another deft character touch from Nolan and Ledger. Notice how clumsily the Joker handles the weapon. This is because the character, at heart, is something of a gentleman criminal. The most "personal" way to kill someone, after all, is by stabbing them. That doesn't mean that he won't use whatever's most readily available and likely to cause the most damage.****

0:42: The Joker, with a machine gun (again notice how awkwardly he holds the weapon), enters a fundraiser, where he immediately moves toward Dawes to hold her hostage. This is the first point in the trailer where it becomes obvious what we don't see: namely, District Attorney Harvey Dent. [Editor's note: Upon further inspection, we've noticed that Dent (Aaron Eckhart) does in fact appear for an instant in this scene.]

-0:39: Rachel knees the Joker. "A little fight in you," he says. "I like that." Pay careful attention to the way Ledger smacks his lips. It would be terrifying enough if he just wanted to kill her, but he seems to want something more. This could be a plot point in the film.

[IIIXziuR]

As long as it stays true to the roots and not that flashy Tinsel town bullshit like X-Men and Spider-Man turned out to be, then I am a happy camper.
This new film looks good. Its dark but not retarded dark like Tim Burton's take on Batman many years back.

I am anticipating the release of this one.

[jrocslider]

wtf!!! Heath Ledger as the joker

i saw the trailer when i went to watch I Am Legend and was wondering who it was but never in a million years would have thought it was heath ledger.

the movie does look good though and he looks like he plays a great joker... we'll see

[OptionZero]

i still maintain they should have hauled mark hamill out of whatever bar he's staying at these days and made him play joker

or at least done the voice

[worangejuice]

OMG that trailer was the shit!!!!!!!!!!!!

[status:one]

wow... never seen the trailer. Looks like it will be very entertaining.

[jackjack]

this was on last night. good times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssOJyGN1GZc&feature=related

[IIIXziuR]

i still maintain they should have hauled mark hamill out of whatever bar he's staying at these days and made him play joker

or at least done the voice

Yeah his voice was so rad on, Batman The Animated series (circa 1992 iirc.)
Mask of the Phantasm was awesome

[HWYKING]

As long as it stays true to the roots and not that flashy Tinsel town bullshit like X-Men and Spider-Man turned out to be, then I am a happy camper.
This new film looks good. Its dark but not retarded dark like Tim Burton's take on Batman many years back.

I am anticipating the release of this one.

i agree with you on that. X-MEN was a good movie, but most of the actors were garbage, and too hollywood for me. i mean they got gandolf the grey to play magneto? magneto should have been alot bigger build, and they dont even have Gambit in the movies yet. same thing with spiderman 3, they got dork from 70s show to play Venom. even our beloved Governator Arnold could have done better. im looking forward to this film.

[98s14inaz]

i agree with you on that. X-MEN was a good movie, but most of the actors were garbage, and too hollywood for me. i mean they got gandolf the grey to play magneto? magneto should have been alot bigger build, and they dont even have Gambit in the movies yet. same thing with spiderman 3, they got dork from 70s show to play Venom. even our beloved Governator Arnold could have done better. im looking forward to this film.

The casting was definitely off in those movies. I was definitely let down with spiderman 3. X-men was meh, except for wolverine who I think Jackman pulled off nicely. Either way, I am excited to see so many graphic novel movies being made. So many great plots, characters, and story lines to use. Good or bad at least they aren't all remakes.

[HWYKING]

The casting was definitely off in those movies. I was definitely let down with spiderman 3. X-men was meh, except for wolverine who I think Jackman pulled off nicely. Either way, I am excited to see so many graphic novel movies being made. So many great plots, characters, and story lines to use. Good or bad at least they aren't all remakes.

very true. cast usually is off in hollywood. but all in all its cool to see comicbook movies made. im also looking forward to ironman, and i read somewhere about a remake of captain america and hugh jackmans own wolverine story. those would be awesome as well.

[SochBAT]

Rumored in teh works = Thor, Capt America, and one more. I forgot who, but oh well.

The Justice League movie is gonna be efffing crap.

[txrxs]

"why so serious" still makes me think of lolcats.

[98s14inaz]

"why so serious" still makes me think of lolcats.

My gf thinks I'm a huge dork watching cartoons still. I loved the old batman cartoons.

[jackjack]

^same here.

how can you resist?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IQBobrCBTNI&feature=related

[ManoNegra]

Its dark but not retarded dark like Tim Burton's take on Batman many years back.


That may be the case but I love the two Tim Burton films, compared to the Christopher Reeves Superman films of the time were so edgy and awesome. Still think Devito's Penguin is definitive. But I must admit that the films haven't aged very gracefully.

i still maintain they should have hauled mark hamill out of whatever bar he's staying at these days and made him play joker

or at least done the voice

Yeah, Hamil had the voice down pat. But I gotta say the maniac laugh in the new trailers is pretty dead on.

I think these last two films are doing a good job of capturing the essence of the 'Year Zero' stories.
What I would really love to see is Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns" be made into a motion picture.

[OptionZero]

michelle pfeiffer is the only catwoman for me

[98s14inaz]

You know after watching that trailer again it almost seems like Heath is giving a homage to Jack. The way he said some of the catch phrases almost made me thing it was Jack. I can't wait.

[JDMS1lv1a]

Jokers laugh makes me laugh

MUEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHEE

[origin_s135]

I wish the new Joker would look like this, much better right? It would scare the shit out of me if I saw it.

http://www.evilkumquat.com/images/michael_jackson_joker.jpg
now that is the scariest of them all. instead of spraying people with laughing gas he will spray you with "JESUS JUICE!!!!"

[jackjack]

You know after watching that trailer again it almost seems like Heath is giving a homage to Jack. The way he said some of the catch phrases almost made me thing it was Jack. I can't wait.


i read that the scene (trailer #2) where batman is racing towards the joker in the batpod down the street..... the one where joker yells "come on.... hit me". is a nod towards Burton and Nicholson. like the original where the batwing is flying towards the joker down the street.

[HWYKING]

i read that the scene (trailer #2) where batman is racing towards the joker in the batpod down the street..... the one where joker yells "come on.... hit me". is a nod towards Burton and Nicholson. like the original where the batwing is flying towards the joker down the street.

yea except i dont think Heath is going to pull a 4 ft barrelled revolver out of his pants! that was classic.

[Subzeroqc]

I honestly doubt the whole "homage" part of the acting. Wasn't this meant to be a remake of the original, thus using the same catch lines? If anything, its an "homage" to the writers and directors, not Nicholson.

[98s14inaz]

I honestly doubt the whole "homage" part of the acting. Wasn't this meant to be a remake of the original, thus using the same catch lines? If anything, its an "homage" to the writers and directors, not Nicholson.

He sounds a little like Jack, which is a complement because he was the ultimate joker...with the exception of mark hamill's voice.

[jackjack]

I honestly doubt the whole "homage" part of the acting. Wasn't this meant to be a remake of the original, thus using the same catch lines? If anything, its an "homage" to the writers and directors, not Nicholson.


just the one scene. not the whole movie. and its just a nod.... thats all :bigok:

[scottie]

Are you all talking about this preview?:

http://www.atasteforthetheatrical.com/deathtrap/default.htm


Heath will be an INCREDIBLE Joker! He will play the character that was intended from the creator of the Dark Knight. Not to knock Jack Nicholson but his character was generated from the late 50's thru the 60's Joker that was more of a funny trickster that killed when needed. However, the Joker was a man gone absolutely insane. He kills for enjoyment, for pleasure. He torments Batman because of his unwillingness to kill criminals.

IMO Heath seems to have to insane laugh down. Cant wait!!!! WOOT!

[scottie]

yea except i dont think Heath is going to pull a 4 ft barrelled revolver out of his pants! that was classic.

Watch the preview, he has an even bigger gun!:naughty:

[HWYKING]

Watch the preview, he has an even bigger gun!:naughty:

sweet! :rawk:

[WERDdabuilder]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8622/jokertonguepv2.gif

[satal95]

Everyone i tlk to at the comic shop thinks this joker is going to better then Jack Nicholson Joker

[WERDdabuilder]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3796/20080122165909990105gv1.jpg
RIP. cant wait to see your work sir.

[Neejay]

Yeah, just read this as well. :(

[Bobafreak]

jack was better. but still rip.

[Kn1ves]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3796/20080122165909990105gv1.jpg
RIP. cant wait to see your work sir.

did they finish filming?

[Fries]

I hope they did. Sadly, the first thing that came to mind was OMG DID HE FINISH THE MOVIE!?

[Andrew Bohan]

they could always do what they did with john candy in whatever his last movie was

[ESmorz]

The filming has been done for quite sometime now.

It comes out in a little while, so of course it's finished.

[KwKouki]

I........cant...........fucking..............wait

[Grendel]

Wow that sucks that he died, RIP :(

I am so excited for this movie, that trailer posted by scottie was fucking sick.

[jackjack]

joker was suppose to go to trial and throw acid at dent in part 3. i'm pissed that they have to replace him already. unless they change their plans and write him out of 3 completely. SHIT....... THIS SUCKS.

[BustedS13]

"why so serious" still makes me think of lolcats.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128343772721718750brokbakkitteh.jpg

[DRavenS13]

I am truly sad for this guy. I never saw Brokeback Mountain (thank God), but I've seen him in all his other movies and he was a truly spectacular actor. I have a lot of faith in his role as the Joker, even though I didn't initially.

His daughter's gonna live off the money he makes from The Dark Knight.









By the way, did anyone get the thought of, "Why didn't he do this shit when he was filming Brokeback???".... I know, I know, it's bad, but I couldn't help thinking it....

[fliprayzin240sx]

Supposedly, dark knights been in post filming for over a month now. Now that he died, you can pretty much gurantee that there will be more people interested on seeing the movie.

[DRavenS13]

Dark Knight's been done. It's in post production.

[ryguy]

You guys who have never seen brokeback mountain need to shut up and see it. I'm completely heterosexual and I think it was a really good movie.

Anyways yeah batman has been done filming for a while, they filmed it in Chicago. I did a double take when I was driving to work and saw "gotham city hospital" on one of the buildings lol. Either way I think Heath will make a suprisingly good joker, god rest his soul.

[anthony240]

yea you can't say Jack was the best when this new one hasn't come out.

This guy took this role so seriously it killed him? Now you know his work will be something to definitely see.

RIP

[ManoNegra]

You guys who have never seen brokeback mountain need to shut up and see it. I'm completely heterosexual and I think it was a really good movie.


+1, while it did make me cringe at times, it was a pretty good movie. Key word: movie.
Too homophobic to see it? Fine, keep it to yourself, no need for hate.

[CAPoweredS14]

+1, while it did make me cringe at times, it was a pretty good movie. Key word: movie.
Too homophobic to see it? Fine, keep it to yourself, no need for hate.

Couldn't have said it better myself.. Heath was known for loving his art and being very shy about having interviews. He was a purist at that and after reading more about him since his death I learned alot about him. Alot of girls I knew just liked him because he was cute/hot/dreamy whatever, and the guys said he was gay for doing brokeback. I started liking Christian Bale when I saw the Machinist because of the amount of dedication he had in doing such a film. I'm glad I got to see most of his movies. Unfortunately I can't say the same for Heath. I will however start to go back and check out his library just to see firsthand his talent.

[Unholy S14]

I am truly sad for this guy. I never saw Brokeback Mountain (thank God), but I've seen him in all his other movies and he was a truly spectacular actor. I have a lot of faith in his role as the Joker, even though I didn't initially.

His daughter's gonna live off the money he makes from The Dark Knight.









By the way, did anyone get the thought of, "Why didn't he do this shit when he was filming Brokeback???".... I know, I know, it's bad, but I couldn't help thinking it....

because he didnt have nightmares about the joker during brokeback lol

He couldnt sleep because he wasnt basically hunted by the joker, had nightmares about him. Got about a few hours of sleep every night.

[jackjack]

from superheroflix.com:

Fans have been waiting for the next trailer for The Dark Knight (http://www.superheroflix.com/movies/film/81/4381/summary.php) almost since the moment the first one was released. Then, with Heath Ledger's unexpected death, everyone began to wonder whether or not the next trailer would feature the Australian star. Now, IGN.com (http://movies.ign.com/articles/853/853359p1.html) reports that the next trailer will air with Warner Bros' prehistoric epic 10,000 B.C. (http://www.superheroflix.com/movies/film/12/3912/summary.php).

According to the report, this trailer will feature less of the Joker, and pay more attention to Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) and Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart).

Christopher Nolan, who directed The Dark Knight (http://www.superheroflix.com/movies/film/81/4381/summary.php), has said before that while the Joker is important to the film, the main story arc really focuses on District Attorney Harvey Dent, who will eventually become the villainous Two-Face.

The Dark Knight (http://www.superheroflix.com/movies/film/81/4381/summary.php) opens on July 18, 2008, and stars Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, Aaron Eckhart and Maggie Gylenhall.


AND..................... from comics2film.com:


An online resume for actress Sarah Jayne Dunn lists the her most recent credit as appearing in 'The Dark Knight'. What's surprising though, is Dunn is credited as playing "Harley Quinn" in Christopher Nolan's Batman sequel.
Fans know that Quinn is, the Joker's girlfriend, a character created for the Paul Dini/Bruce Timm animated 'Batman', series. In short order she became one of the most sensational Batman rogues, taking a place among his top tier of villains. Eventually the character transitioned into Batman canon, appearing in the comics as well as other spin offs, like the ill-fated 'Birds of Prey' TV series.

Fans will have to wait and see if Quinn appears in full harlequin gear and makeup in the movie, or is a bit player in Joker's army, waiting to explode into the next sequel.
Dunn is largely known for her work on British television.

http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/wp-content/photos/57665921.jpg

[Chaws15]

It's ironic how some things end up being. Like this thread, for instance. It was meant to highlight, critique, and praise the talents of Mr. Ledger. I'm sure the OP, or anyone for that matter, didn't expect these series of unfortunate events to happen. It just goes to show you how fragile our lives are. One day you're anticipating how good the next generation Joker will be, next day you're looking at headlines thinking to yourself, "this is a joke, right? This must be wrong.."

I'm looking forward to seeing Heath Ledger's final piece of work.


RIP Heath Ledger
January 22, 2008

[DRavenS13]

AND..................... from comics2film.com:


An online resume for actress Sarah Jayne Dunn lists the her most recent credit as appearing in 'The Dark Knight'. What's surprising though, is Dunn is credited as playing "Harley Quinn" in Christopher Nolan's Batman sequel.
Fans know that Quinn is, the Joker's girlfriend, a character created for the Paul Dini/Bruce Timm animated 'Batman', series. In short order she became one of the most sensational Batman rogues, taking a place among his top tier of villains. Eventually the character transitioned into Batman canon, appearing in the comics as well as other spin offs, like the ill-fated 'Birds of Prey' TV series.

Fans will have to wait and see if Quinn appears in full harlequin gear and makeup in the movie, or is a bit player in Joker's army, waiting to explode into the next sequel.
Dunn is largely known for her work on British television.

Meh- I think Brittany Murphy would have been better. She has the voice, and the demeanor for it.

[exitspeed]

^
Yea I don't like that chick as Quinn. I don't see the next movie already being cast. That movie would be 2+ years off at LEAST.

[jackjack]

give her a chance, you never know. they've done a good job so far...... for casting.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1254/646519453_08d153cf3a.jpg

[Dirty Habit]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c93/thehun_1992/basement/batman.gif

[jackjack]

^ahhahahahahhahahahaha thats awesome.

[SimpleS14]

the words go by too fast to enjoy the humor :/

[Daniel.]

AHAHAHAH that batman shit is fucking funny as hell

[Onitsukagirl]

Jack Nicholson was a damn good joker and i'm not sure if Heath Ledger can top it. Jack doesn't really have to try too hard to look scary, he had a good evil Joker Laugh too...then again the old batman was very dark and Gothic, I really wish they would have made these new ones more like the first ones. Don't get me wrong, I think the new ones are really good, I just really like the whole feel of the old ones with Michael Keaton.

[jackjack]

just a quick update:

The Dark Knight Trailer News


The good people at Joblo (http://www.joblo.com/nycc-tdk-trailer) have posted a detailed report on what was to be seen from The Dark Knight at NYCC.

- Heath Ledger, as we surmised, appears to be giving a truly remarkable performance. While this trailer replays some of the same things we've seen in the teaser, the new snippets of The Joker's dialogue and mannerisms produced a seriously giddy effect for anyone excited about this potentially amazing performance. My favorite moment is when he approaches Rachel after he and his gang bust in on a fancy dinner party (this can be seen briefly in the first teaser) - he does a funny little gesture where he brushes back his hair, mock-grooming himself. Don't know why, but it just looked great, and another indication that Ledger has totally disappeared into this psychotic character... Another nice scene had him giving a speech to a roomful of mobsters/bad guys about killing Batman. He ends it by pulling out a joker, saying "Here's my card" with that weirdly-pitched voice of his. He also really seems to like his knives...

So - When can we expect to see it ourselves? Well, it has been rumored that we have a couple weeks to go. A couple weeks? Let's do some math, shall we?

In exactly two weeks we have the release of Iron Man (http://www.canmag.com/movies.php?moviekey=ironman). Who wants to bet that the TDK trailer arrives with that?


Mel......... maybe change the thread title to the dark knight? might as well. all the info's in here.