Should I sell my GSX for a 240?

[vr4gasmtt]

I have a 99 Eclipse GSX, that I've had for more than a year now. I'm really liking the AWD and power, but the handling is terrible. GSX's have the worse turn radius ever.

The point of the thread is to ask whether I should keep my GSX or would I be happy with a 240sx with a ka24 (SR20 swap later down the road.) I've never driven an SR powered 240 before so I don't know if its going to be fast. What are your guys input? I know the sr stock should be faster than the GSX cause of weight, but everyone on dsmtuners said that going from a 99 GSX to a 240 would be a downgrade and that it'd cost more money etc etc to get it running good.

[OptionZero]

They're right, the 240 sucks. 50 less horsepower, only 2WD, shitty old chassis, ghetto owners, drift stigma.

Stick with the GSX.

[rps13drift]

Whats your plans for the car? if you like going fast it would be cheaper for you to mod the dsm. A few of my buddies have dsm's and they fucking rip!!! my good friends galant vr4 is the best! 400 whp granny mobile!

[projectRDM]

They're right, the 240 sucks. 50 less horsepower, only 2WD, shitty old chassis, ghetto owners, drift stigma.

Stick with the GSX.

Bingo. But if you're really serious, climb aboard the bandwagon, there's still some room.

[kandyflip445]

I'd keep the GSX. Those are soooo hard to find. At least here they are. Pretty much if you want the 240 and you can wait until you are ready to add power then go for it. It's just that with as many problems as I've had with my car I always want to sell it. Then I buy another part and love it all over again. :duh:

[vr4gasmtt]

I guess I should have mentioned that my GSX has 180k on it. It was driven my some old guy in his 60's and he drove back and forth from work which was like a 200mile drive everyday.

The car runs flawless still, theres no shaft play in the turbo. I feel safe and reliable in the car even at 180k. ( The guy did all maintenance on the car, came with a grip of receipts) But I just can't find myself modding the GSX until I get a rebuild or something. I know what DSM's are capable of and they can be crazy fast, but like I said... handling is terrible.

I want a 240, well to get sideways a little and join some drift events, but other than that I just want a fun handling, powerful daily driver. I've always wanted a 240 to begin with, but I found the GSX for a very good deal, and the condition that the GSX is in, just looks and feels like a brand new car, even though the mileage is up there.

[95zilvia]

Why dont you get both.

[4thHorse]

Why can't you have both?

MAN! 1 freaken second

[OptionZero]

I just want a fun handling, powerful daily driver.

Yeah..that's not the 240.

[vr4gasmtt]

Yeah..that's not the 240.


So your telling me a 240 with an SR in it isn't that fast?

[silviaz]

I guess I should have mentioned that my GSX has 180k on it. It was driven my some old guy in his 60's and he drove back and forth from work which was like a 200mile drive everyday.

The car runs flawless still, theres no shaft play in the turbo. I feel safe and reliable in the car even at 180k. ( The guy did all maintenance on the car, came with a grip of receipts) But I just can't find myself modding the GSX until I get a rebuild or something. I know what DSM's are capable of and they can be crazy fast, but like I said... handling is terrible.

I want a 240, well to get sideways a little and join some drift events, but other than that I just want a fun handling, powerful daily driver. I've always wanted a 240 to begin with, but I found the GSX for a very good deal, and the condition that the GSX is in, just looks and feels like a brand new car, even though the mileage is up there.


drifting and daily drive doesn't sound good. You have to be ready to PAY to PLAY and don't give a fuck about your car cuz you'll destroy it. Trust me....

The 240sx world isn't that nice. Those car are money pit, they are getting old and that mean "fix and repair daily" and after that, every young boy beat the hell out of them and sell them faster than a plane.

EDIT: Good luck.

[4thHorse]

Okay, just get a 240. Thats what you want to here right, that it's okay to buy a 240? Your bugged about a car with all the work receipts, that was well taken care of. A rebuild would cost less then a sr swap, but you should still buy a 240 and sell that junker

[wootwoot]

Keep your car and then get a Miata for a track car.

[jrmiller84]

I've always been a fan of the GSX. I owned two Eclipses when I was in HS, wrecked both of them because I was a dumb ass. Thank god they were only RS's.

I'd keep the GSX, as much as I love my 240. It's got crazy potential and super rare.

Hell, 240's aren't expensive. Save some cash and you could have both :bigok:

[OptionZero]

the car isn't expensive. Doing it up right is, something people still haven't realized

[rj240sx]

in my opinion, you could go faster for cheaper with the gsx since you already have a turbo car and would just need to mod it, but if your really unhappy with it. sell it. doesn't matter how fast u make it if driving it doesn't make u happy. and if ur planning on a heavily modified sr 240, u might as well swap a LS1 Corvette engine in it. it would come out to about the same price/wieght when its all said and done(www.hinsonsupercars.com) and be a lot cooler car. just my opinion

[nismo-joe]

How long have you been into dsm's for? me personaly i've owned a dsm from 96 up till last yeat when i sold it to buy a 240. I've never had any regret. I owned a 95 gsx,96gst, and a 982gnt 420 a pos lol. They are a lot of fun but go out in your car and do 5 hard launches and come back and tell me if youre car still works. i got tired of praying for my car to start every day. You will spend the same amount fixing your 240 as you would your dsm. I hate to break it to you,.... but diamonds arn't forever.
To answere your question about being faster if you get a s13 with a sr you will own a gsx 1/4 mile since stock they fall off after 3rd gear at 4500rpms and a 240 has great top end., but get a sr in a s14 and you will be slower. My women has hated me since selling my dsm, but oh well im happy going through tires. I say get out now, and don't waste your money.

[jrmiller84]

the car isn't expensive. Doing it up right is, something people still haven't realized

That's very true now that you mention it. Especially after I just dropped 7k :keke:

[nismo-joe]

don't keep two problem cars.come to the darkside!

[eastcoastS14]

^^ to answer your question I think fast is a matter of opinion....My 240 SR with 350whp was crazy fast for me...the rear end would break loose and it would walk sideways in low 1st and 2nd scary shit sometimes...350whp was more than enough for me but there are ppl with RB's pushing 400whp+ who will probably tell you their cars are slow

If youre looking for a reliable daily driver a 240 with an SR in it isnt the route to go...get a civic or something....If I were you id keep the GSX and buy a cheap s13 to mod if you really want a 240

but anything can be fast...its just a matter of how much money your willing to shell out

[iwishiwas-all*]

stick with the dsm.

"Sorry Ghostrider, the pattern is full"

[dct223]

my roomate had a GSX..... nice car, but its a DSM, he told that you cant be broke when you own one because they break down a lot. 2g's have problems with crank walk, at 180K you could already have it or its on it's way, and once you start modding more shit breaks and random CEL's pop. My roomate also told me he would never floor his car because he was always too paranoid that his engine would blow or something break...

since your car has so many miles im pretty sure your next investment will be a 6bolt 1g block, and a turbo rebuild.. so you have to do the math..

240's may have their share of problems, but it was def less frustrating to work on my car than working on my friend's GSX.

[vr4gasmtt]

How long have you been into dsm's for? me personaly i've owned a dsm from 96 up till last yeat when i sold it to buy a 240. I've never had any regret. I owned a 95 gsx,96gst, and a 982gnt 420 a pos lol. They are a lot of fun but go out in your car and do 5 hard launches and come back and tell me if youre car still works. i got tired of praying for my car to start every day. You will spend the same amount fixing your 240 as you would your dsm. I hate to break it to you,.... but diamonds arn't forever.
To answere your question about being faster if you get a s13 with a sr you will own a gsx 1/4 mile since stock they fall off after 3rd gear at 4500rpms and a 240 has great top end., but get a sr in a s14 and you will be slower. My women has hated me since selling my dsm, but oh well im happy going through tires. I say get out now, and don't waste your money.

Thanks for advice, I think I'm going to switch over. I was never planning on keeping two cars, I wouldn't be able to afford it. I'm glad theres someone that has had experience with dsm's and switched over. I've had my car for more than a year and half, and I've been helping my friend mod his GS-t.

I've been getting alot of I should drop an LS1 in a s13 and it'll own everything, but I don't know much about LS1's, I'll probably do more research on it.

['90RPS13]

Pics or ban. I want to see some pics. Probably one of the few cars I would sell my S13 for. Only thing I hate is the problems that come with DSM's.

[Edgar]

I will be real honest with my "opinion"
I know of a lot of DSMs that just sit in a garage and seriously don't do crap. Why? Because for some reason the transmission is always taking a shit. I would honestly say stick with the S Chassis if you are planning on "hooking it up" lol
DSM I would keep with a 5k transmission build over a SHEP Racing.
I don't know I think DSMs are just a bad idea.

[eastcoastS14]

are you really gonna want to daily drive an LS1 s13...i really might consider keeping both...just me tho

[rj240sx]

are you really gonna want to daily drive an LS1 s13

why not??????

[johngriff]

Keep the GSX.

You would be buying an older car.

Not alot of girls want to "jump" into a 1989 anything...

The GSX is a cool car, I think you'll regret parting with it.

Can you drift the GSX? That will guage how much you like real drifting.

[jeeper_x]

the transmission sux on the gsx.....240sx ftw....wait, everything sux on the 240sx.......everything rattles and makes weird noises......

[AWDHeretic]

I kind of just went DSM to 240 myself, although while I did sell my TSi AWD and buy an SR'd 240 here on Hawaii, I keep my 92 GSX back in my homestate of Connecticut. SO yea, I am cheating having both at the same time(although it is physically impossible for me to drive my GSX except for like once a year when I go home).
In my opinion, both cars are a handful. I just wanted to try something new and I had never had a Rear-wheel drive car. I would say though, coming from a GSX you are gonna want to go turbo, so if you buy a 240 thats not swapped or turbo KA, you are going to be missing the turbo.

[vr4gasmtt]

I kind of just went DSM to 240 myself, although while I did sell my TSi AWD and buy an SR'd 240 here on Hawaii, I keep my 92 GSX back in my homestate of Connecticut. SO yea, I am cheating having both at the same time(although it is physically impossible for me to drive my GSX except for like once a year when I go home).
In my opinion, both cars are a handful. I just wanted to try something new and I had never had a Rear-wheel drive car. I would say though, coming from a GSX you are gonna want to go turbo, so if you buy a 240 thats not swapped or turbo KA, you are going to be missing the turbo.


Thats nice to hear, what would you choose if you had to pick one, the GSX or the 240 and why?

[yokotas13]

no
i did it, and i regret it

[ECR33S14]

my buddy just sold his 97 GSX and bought an S14 it really depends on what you want to spend your money on its been said on here before you gotta pay to play and its 100% true. Cheap, Fast, and reliable, pick two. personally i would get the 240.

[vanish1]

I dont understand why you guys would suggest that he should go with a 240.

Keep your DSM, I personally dont want another person buying another 240, just one less 240 out there and more reason for people to raise the inflation on them

[Cashizslick]

What 1/4 mile times has your GSX posted?

A 240 with an SR will run 13's on stock boost, provided you have some sort of LSD.

[EAS13]

I had a 97 for a few years. Yeah the turning radius sucks massive ass, but I don't get why you say it handles like crap? If you drive it properly that thing grips like a mofo.

Regardless, go with the 240. Sell the DSM for a grip of cash, buy a nice s14. It's much more reliable overall and is a nicer looking ride IMO.

[byebye_sti]

Yeah, I also say try to get both somehow. I've noticed that since I've gotten my 240, girls don't want to drive with me hah, they hate the racing seats and the harnesses. They loved the 3000gt though. That was a fun car. But I vote for both! Good luck!

[OptionZero]

Eclipse = FnF 1 and 2 fad
240 = FnF 3 fad

pick your poison, depends how out of date the local rice is

[badboy6686]

don't forget the un-official dsm slogan "DSM's, turning owners into mechanics since 1989" lolll

[90S13dude]

DSM's are no different than a 240. Ive had a GS-t and now I have an SR powered 240SX. They are both money pits. It is all in what you want.

[jspecusa]

awd rules on the street.
300hp 2wd with 255 rear tires still don't get any traction.
if you want to learn how to drift just buy a 91 s13 coupe and beat the crap out of it stock and keep the gsx as daily.

[GoodOl'S13]

the car isn't expensive. Doing it up right is, something people still haven't realized
what he said.

[max2damax]

people that have sr powered 240s, keep saying 240s arent reliable mmmmm? I wonder if there is a conection there?. buy the 240 and mod the KA, cant get more fun and reliable than that.

[AWDHeretic]

Thats nice to hear, what would you choose if you had to pick one, the GSX or the 240 and why?

Its a tough call since I have only been a 240 driver for a little over a week. I have 2 positions; between my own modified GSX and my new SR-powered 240, I would pick my GSX. But between my 240 and a similar(in terms of price$$) All-wheel drive DSM, I would give the slight edge to the 240. But hey, DSM can be made to handle good, and there are always Hoosier's which made a 94 GSX go 1.07 G on a skidpad.

[OptionZero]

an SR powered 240 with shitty old suspension (or hey, even "megan powered" suspension) and Kumho 712s won't be any better than a GSX

[fliprayzin240sx]

What 1/4 mile times has your GSX posted?

A 240 with an SR will run 13's on stock boost, provided you have some sort of LSD.

Who told you THAT LIE?!?! 13s on stock boost - o rly?:rolleyes:

Honestly keep the DSM, how would you know it handles shitty? Have you tracked or auto-x'd the damn thing? I got a friend who got one of the cleanest GSX, HELL, the cleanest car I've ever seen. He tracks it and I can say it handles itself out there. Fast enough to run 12s in th quarter if it has to. I dont see why you would say the handling on it sucks, did you upgrade the suspension and wheel setup to make such a statement?

http://www.pxracing.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10005/GSX3.jpg

If you sell the GSX, you will end up dropping all your cash into a car thats somebody else's project. You will spend more money on it modding it and fixing it. Save your money, leave the engine stock boost, buy some suspension. If you really wanna make it fast, get a spare block and start building that. Once its done, then start modding the 180k engine and start cranking the boost. If it blows, transfer everything over to the one you built. Do it right and you wont have regrets.

[LowNismo17]

you could sell the GSX and have enough cash to buy a S14 already equipped with a SR swap..

[kognition]

Keep the GSX. 240=money pit. 10 to 20 grand worth of money pit with no end in site. Exciting economic devistation is on the way, not to mention the high likelyhood of $5.00 gallon gas this year. If i had $10 grand set aside for something, i sure as hell would not put it into a used car this year. I would invest the ish into something like a condo when the prices plummet this year.
Please trust me and just keep your GSX, be smart. It's a good car. :2f2f:

I have a 99 Eclipse GSX, that I've had for more than a year now. I'm really liking the AWD and power, but the handling is terrible. GSX's have the worse turn radius ever.

The point of the thread is to ask whether I should keep my GSX or would I be happy with a 240sx with a ka24 (SR20 swap later down the road.) I've never driven an SR powered 240 before so I don't know if its going to be fast. What are your guys input? I know the sr stock should be faster than the GSX cause of weight, but everyone on dsmtuners said that going from a 99 GSX to a 240 would be a downgrade and that it'd cost more money etc etc to get it running good.

[fliprayzin240sx]

you could sell the GSX and have enough cash to buy a S14 already equipped with a SR swap..


Umm really? Lets do some numbers...He can probably sell the GSX for maaaybe $6k because of the miles. I have yet to see a S14 SR swap go for that much in awhile since the DRIFT INFLATION kicked in. Mind you, its still possible that he might find one. The question is, in what condition? I can almost gurantee that itll be some "mickey mouse" shiet. At that point, will he be better off in a "crappy handling" stock car or a "faster but worst off car since a 5 yr old put it together" car?

[exitspeed]

Slap me silly and call me Susan, but I'd rather have a stock 240 over a stock GSX.

I'd also rather have a modded 240 over a modded GSX.

It's a DSM. It's gonna break.

GSX are fast in a straight line. If this was 99 I'd say keep the GSX, but drag racing is so 1999.

I like being able to beat 12 sec GSX's at AutoX events with my stock 240.

[vr4gasmtt]

an SR powered 240 with shitty old suspension (or hey, even "megan powered" suspension) and Kumho 712s won't be any better than a GSX

OptionZero you keep telling me not to get 240, is that cause you think I'm just going to do what everyone else does? I see a lot of shitty 240's in my area, and I've known about 240's way before the whole fast and furious fad and drifting fad became big.

I was supposed to get a 240 to begin with but couldn't pass up the deal for the GSX. I've driven two 240's before both with suspension setup on it. And I can tell you that they aren't even all that great, because both the cars lacked power (both KA24), but if it did have power (SR), then I'm assuming that it will handle better?

I also wanted something easier to work on and something that won't break randomly. I really don't know what to do still. I wasn't aware that there were people here that used to have DSM's. Some said I should keep it others said I should sell it as fast as possible. The GSX handles decent on some twisties, but hard cornering is just terrible, a civic would outhandle me. DSM's aren't really that good in handling, there are some in autoX, but they only benefit because they have power. Other than that DSM's were meant for straight lines.

I'm going to work hard and try to get both cars, and see which on I like the most and then sell the one I don't like for mods.

Alot of people keep saying getting a s14, is there any reason to this? I was really looking for an s13, taking the whole thing apart, painting it (brother has a spray gun) and then dropping in an SR, followed by some decent coilovers, and an origin kit on and call it a day. I really didn't want to mess with an s14 because of OBD-II emissions.

[bamaboy]

nissans suck...keep the GSX nobody likes 240s and they are terrible cars to own and mod........hehehehe

[SimpleS14]

And I can tell you that they aren't even all that great, because both the cars lacked power (both KA24), but if it did have power (SR), then I'm assuming that it will handle better?

How does more power = better handling? :loco:

95 S14s are OBD I


I really can't tell you what to get...as I have a strong bias, yet I don't know if YOU would like the 240....

[BoostedCoupe]

why do you keep saying if it had power (sr) a stock sr isnt that much power just because TFATFsaid it and its the motor all "drifters" use.

[kandyflip445]

The s14 is more desireable for some because it's newer and rust is less of an issue. Especially compared to a s13 with the factory moonroof thing. They usually rust at the bottom of the b-pillar. I know from experience. It sucks. Also the factory spoiler is foam and the paint on mine has cracked. I don't know if it's because it flexes when people use it to pull up the hatch or because the paint sucks, but it's cracked. Also the spoiler makes the hatch rust. Gayest thing ever.

[OptionZero]

I'm telling you not to get a 240sx because you asked whether or not to get one.

If you need to ask, it's not for you.

[yokotas13]

Slap me silly and call me Susan, but I'd rather have a stock 240 over a stock GSX.

I'd also rather have a modded 240 over a modded GSX.

It's a DSM. It's gonna break.

GSX are fast in a straight line. If this was 99 I'd say keep the GSX, but drag racing is so 1999.

I like being able to beat 12 sec GSX's at AutoX events with my stock 240.
my spyder could have beat your 240

WIth the right driver, and right mods the dsm can hendle just as well

[Raysurc]

i had a dsm prior to joining the nissan fam. +1 for dsm. "DSM's, turning owners into mechanics since 1989" lol!

[rj240sx]

what it all boils down to is if u want awd or rwd, you can make them both hella fast, and either way, their both money pits.

[ChicagoS14]

Any old car is a money pit, any car you will track is a money pit, cars in general are money pits, DSMs are fun cars and very fast if you know what your doing, Ive wrenched on enough of them and have many DSM friends to know what they are capable of, I personally prefer 1G DSMs, however I would say dont listen to what people say, dont even post such questions. Go out there test drive the car and do what makes you happy, because in the end you are the one stuck with the car and the bills, either way you look at it both will cost you money. Different strokes for different folks..... but yeah, thats my 2 cents, oh and KA-T FTW!!! 113K starts up everday and runs like a champ.

[fliprayzin240sx]

OptionZero you keep telling me not to get 240, is that cause you think I'm just going to do what everyone else does? I see a lot of shitty 240's in my area, and I've known about 240's way before the whole fast and furious fad and drifting fad became big.

I was supposed to get a 240 to begin with but couldn't pass up the deal for the GSX. I've driven two 240's before both with suspension setup on it. And I can tell you that they aren't even all that great, because both the cars lacked power (both KA24), but if it did have power (SR), then I'm assuming that it will handle better?

I also wanted something easier to work on and something that won't break randomly. I really don't know what to do still. I wasn't aware that there were people here that used to have DSM's. Some said I should keep it others said I should sell it as fast as possible. The GSX handles decent on some twisties, but hard cornering is just terrible, a civic would outhandle me. DSM's aren't really that good in handling, there are some in autoX, but they only benefit because they have power. Other than that DSM's were meant for straight lines.

I'm going to work hard and try to get both cars, and see which on I like the most and then sell the one I don't like for mods.

Alot of people keep saying getting a s14, is there any reason to this? I was really looking for an s13, taking the whole thing apart, painting it (brother has a spray gun) and then dropping in an SR, followed by some decent coilovers, and an origin kit on and call it a day. I really didn't want to mess with an s14 because of OBD-II emissions.

K a couple of things, somebody pointed it out but i will too. POWER DOESNT MAKE A CAR HANDLE BETTER. 2 if your unhappy with your newer GSX, then an S13 will definitely piss you off so stay away from it. If you need a reason why not, then lets see, older chassis, alot more shiet broken, rust, bad bushings, bad hatch (if you get a hatch). Youre better off with an S14. Also you said you dont wanna mess with S14s because of OBD-II emissions............




























THEN WHY THE FUCK DO WANT AN SR?!?! :loco:

[Cashizslick]

Who told you THAT LIE?!?! 13s on stock boost - o rly?:rolleyes:

You must suck at driving.

VLSD LSD + suspension + stock S14 alloys + stock boost = 13's chief.


THEN WHY THE FUCK DO WANT AN SR?!?! :loco:


Thats a good question. . . . probably because its an "sr"

[YucA]

http://pics.shorty.org/files/12/dsmcrankwalk3bdte7.jpg

HI! :D

[Helghast]

THEN WHY THE FUCK DO WANT AN SR?!?! :loco:


Why wouldn't you want an SR?!
It has crazy power!!
13's on stock turboz.

DUDE!

+ it's JDM Tyte.

OMG!!

SR
SR
SR
SR
SR
SR
SR
S
R


:hahano:

[iwishiwas-all*]

"ghostrider, the pattern is full"

lmao "I would assume that if you had the SR and more power the car would handle better"
HA
HA
HA.
im all laughed out, ur just fucking hilarious

[pl'ss13]

240sx with SR = weekend car as track car
240sx with KA24det = daily or weekend
240sx got not much problem at all parts are cheap for non SR
but the NA KA suck.. but fun to go to touge!!!
Why not buy a SC300 5sp really rear.. need time to find them!!! (recommand)

[vr4gasmtt]

Well I wanted an S13, and the mileage on the KA's for s13's are usually up there, thats the reason for wanting an SR, I can just get a POS 240 and drop in the SR. If I were to get a low mileage s14 240, I would KA-t it, the point was just turbo'ing the car, I guess I should have stated that earlier. But I had intentions of getting an s13, so thats the reason for wanting SR.

After thinking about it, I guess I'm just going to save up for an s14, and doing a lot more research. Thanks for all the comments and advice.

fliprayzin240, thanks for telling me directly what everyone else was trying to say about how the s13 chassis is old and rusted etc. (http://www.zilvia.net/f/member.php?u=3466)

240sx with SR = weekend car as track car
240sx with KA24det = daily or weekend
240sx got not much problem at all parts are cheap for non SR
but the NA KA suck.. but fun to go to touge!!!
Why not buy a SC300 5sp really rear.. need time to find them!!! (recommand)

I used to want a SC300 that was 5spd, but I passed it up after a test drive. The car was way too heavy for my taste.

[vanish1]

Galant VR-4
Swapped 2.5RS
FC RX-7
AE86
Omni SS
E30 w/ E36 M3 engine

[BoostedCoupe]

if i ever find a sc300 that's a 5speed near me and dosent have over 140,000 miles im buying it. if i have to sell one of my 240's for it. you should have bought the sc put a 2jzgte in it and u got speed and a nice car.

[FerretsCanDrift]

I'll give my opinion because I own both and let you decide. If you're talking about dropping in an LS1 then idk why u mentioned you want to get into drifting. Ive had my 240 for close to 4 yrs and 2 1G DSM's (a front wheel and an all wheel) for close to 2 yrs. For a cheap and fairly quick car, Id say DSM. I wouldn't be [I]too[I] concerned about the milege if it was maintained and not beat on. The all wheel had 174xxx before it blew a rod but that was from beating the shit out of it everyday. Why not become more mechanically inclined and learn on the gsx? It doesn't seem as if you have much experience learning on a boosted car and they're a nice platform to learn on. I thought the handling sucked on the gsx also but some nice shock/springs and sway bars made a world of a difference. And I have a welded center diff w/ no p/s

On the other hand I'd say 240. I love them. My 240 will out handle my gsx by a long shot. As far as everything else..ehh...you're on this site so Im shouldnt have to explain this one and its probably better off. Then the zilvia (ASSHOLE) in me will come out.

To sum it up, from an enthusiast aspect Id say 240. If a straight line is youre thing..keep the DSM

[OptionZero]

Look, you keep telling us you wanted a 240 to begin with but "couldn't pass up a great deal on the GSX".

That means:
1. You settled. You got something because it was cheap, rather than what you wanted (by extension, what's "better").

2. If you are willing to settle with the actual car itself, you'll settle when it comes time to decide what to do with the 240.

3. You don't really know what the fuck you want. We don't need anymore indecisive 240 owners because we have enough decisive stupid ones.

4. You are incapable of using the internet to research and you for some reason can't test drive a 240 or ride in some at the track. Instead, you are apparently relying on the opinions of some internet forum.

5. You bought the GSX when it's common knowledge that they're a pain in the ass. Now you want something that's less a pain in the ass...and you're looking at an older car that's probably been beat to shit by other dumbasses?

6. Look at the number of stupid responses this thread has generated. You don't sound like you can handle being a part of this community.

[ixfxi]

Who told you THAT LIE?!?! 13s on stock boost - o rly?:rolleyes:

Honestly keep the DSM, how would you know it handles shitty? Have you tracked or auto-x'd the damn thing? I got a friend who got one of the cleanest GSX, HELL, the cleanest car I've ever seen. He tracks it and I can say it handles itself out there. Fast enough to run 12s in th quarter if it has to. I dont see why you would say the handling on it sucks, did you upgrade the suspension and wheel setup to make such a statement?

http://www.pxracing.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10005/GSX3.jpg

If you sell the GSX, you will end up dropping all your cash into a car thats somebody else's project. You will spend more money on it modding it and fixing it. Save your money, leave the engine stock boost, buy some suspension. If you really wanna make it fast, get a spare block and start building that. Once its done, then start modding the 180k engine and start cranking the boost. If it blows, transfer everything over to the one you built. Do it right and you wont have regrets.

actually, its a fact - the eclipse (all eclipses, unless they've had serious mystical work done to them) absolutely BLOW BALLS when it comes to handling.

ABSOLUTE. BLOW. BALLS.

Not to mention, its built like absolute shit. Based on my experience, the only Mitsubishi worth touching would be an EVO. I've had Mitsubishi OWNERS and MECHANICS tell me the same fucking thing.

[rj240sx]

If you're talking about dropping in an LS1 then idk why u mentioned you want to get into drifting.
:wtf: An LS1 w/t56 tranny is lighter then a ka24de w/ tranny. and theres this little thing called torque....

http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/faqS14.htm

[rj240sx]

people that have sr powered 240s, keep saying 240s arent reliable mmmmm? I wonder if there is a conection there?. buy the 240 and mod the KA, cant get more fun and reliable than that.

a lot of people who own sr's are kids who have little or no mechanic skill whatsoever, try to do the swap themselves, and then bitch about them being unreliable. I wonder if there is a connection there?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Fuck it, dont get neither of them. Be a man get a corvette...

[chmercer]

who cares

damn, 3 pages of shit? damn bro. damnbro. damarbabrbborboboboobbrosbobodboodbdobdddddddddddd dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

listen to bangalter

i declare this a thread about thomas bangalter

which daft punk album do you guys like more. homework, or discovery?

also, music sounds better with you is a classic track

the new mehdi track feat. bangalter is good too

discuss

the next person who says anything about a GSX is getting banned

[rj240sx]

Fuck it, dont get neither of them. Be a man get a corvette...

haha, thats what the fuck I'm talkin about!!

[eastcoastS14]

Thats a good question. . . . probably because its an "sr"

thats the dumbest thing ive ever read...SR's are becoming more of a fad than anything and ppl want SR swaps just because they read a couple issues of super street and then act like its the greatest motor ever...they are nice motors but not the only option or unbreakable by any means

to the OP i find more and more on zilvia that a lot of these guys are speaking from experience...theyve been there and done that already...these guys know whats up and have owned many 240s before and dealt with all the problems...both zilvians and the dsm guys seem to be telling you a 240 is a downgrade, and daily driver/drifter or whatever sounds good but itll probably end up being more daily than drifter so i say keep your gsx or if you want keep your gsx get a cheap s14 basic insurance and KA-T

all i wanted to say...but i agree with chmercer...question has been asked and answered

[GSXRJJordan]

You know, the only reason I glanced at anything more than the first couple pages is to wonder WHY THE FUCK we have 70-something replys to this guy.

All questions have been answered.

Get a 240, keep the GSX, or do nothing. Whatever.

[vanish1]

stick your penis in a toaster

[S13SilviaGirl]

This has gone on long enough.