View Full Version : Safe Boost for GT2871r
anyone here know what is the safe boost for this turbo and what is the MAX boost, thanks.
420sx
05-07-2007, 01:02 PM
refer to the manufacturers specifications on their website. but safe is 15-18psi
KiDyNomiTe
05-07-2007, 01:19 PM
I keep mine at about 14-15, occasionally its upped to like 19
burgy240
05-07-2007, 02:20 PM
safe is also relative to other parts on the car. fuel pump, MAF, Injectors FMIC, yadda yadda yadda.
Wei240
05-07-2007, 02:25 PM
yeah, read your other posts, you need to tune first, and tune correctly, as in go to a real tuner, (apex's website lists all their authorize tuners),
you can practically destroy your goodies if you have mismatch settings no matter what boost level you're at
ripnbst
05-07-2007, 02:28 PM
Getting a good tune is more important than any part you could ever put on your car, go to a professional.
red s14
05-07-2007, 02:46 PM
the turbo is good for 36 psi from what i understand. i talked to a turbo specilists in here in cinci and they are a dealer for garrett. they said the internal gated 2871 can run 36psi. now are they right i would believe so but somebody correct me if i'm wrong please. and like burgy said it all depends on what supporting mods you have.
usdm180sx
05-07-2007, 02:54 PM
I seriously doubt that. Internal wg is designed for lower boost and response. For high boost applications go with an external wg.
johngriff
05-07-2007, 02:55 PM
36 Psi is SO FAR OUT of the Efficiency it is Crazy.
Safe boost for pump is probably 16psi to be conservative, Other wise i would run Race Gas, Race Blend, Methanol or Water injection to keep it reliable on the street.
Same goes for tuning about 10 Fold, without proper tuning you are liable to break something, even at 8psi.
red s14
05-08-2007, 09:34 AM
like i said guys they told me. i was thinking the same think about the internal gated 2871 running that. some speacialists they were. :down: i agree j.g.
neilsan
05-08-2007, 10:02 AM
What is the lowest psi the 2871 wastegate will run, i have to limp along with a stock tune and fuel setup till I can afford :blah:
im hoping I can do like 10psi, i figure the 2871's CFM's at that level match the T25 at ~14
usdm180sx
05-08-2007, 10:11 AM
Just install the turbo when you have all the necessary supporting mods. If you're gonna do it, do it right one time.
neilsan
05-08-2007, 07:50 PM
thanks for not answering my question. my motor's out of my car (rod bearings, clutch) in my dad's garage and he needs me out as soon as possible. if i could sit on it and take up his space for another month, i would.
at this point im only concerned with being able to drive the car.
im honestly sorry i ever signed up to this forum.
Adam496
05-08-2007, 08:37 PM
You got one response and you are bitching? Why are you taking apart an engine if you have no clue what you are doing? Just run the wastegate so it dumps all the time. This way you will not have to worry about boost.
Z U L8R
05-08-2007, 08:46 PM
+++++1 @ tuner makes all the difference, i just got back from the dyno
usdm180sx
05-08-2007, 08:50 PM
thanks for not answering my question. my motor's out of my car (rod bearings, clutch) in my dad's garage and he needs me out as soon as possible. if i could sit on it and take up his space for another month, i would.
at this point im only concerned with being able to drive the car.
im honestly sorry i ever signed up to this forum.
Well gee, thanks for not mentioning that your motor is out of the car. From the tone of your post it seemed as if your car was running but you wanted to do a mickey mouse turbo upgrade. Do we look like we have ESP?
Never mind. Your awesome attitude has suddenly made me want to tell you to have fun SEARCHING. If you don't like it here you're more than welcome to leave.
It doesn't matter what the wastegate will GO to
don't let it boost you dumb fuck...
learn something about cars before you go ahead building a 400hp motor
codyace
05-08-2007, 09:48 PM
Doing a quick compressor map, 20/21 psi is at the limit. I think with the ball bearing CHRA, 22-24 would be ok for 'dyno' runs and or an occasional maxed out drag setup.
fliprayzin240sx
05-09-2007, 12:04 AM
I was running @1.2 bar, pretty sure you can push it to 1.5.
As far the ungrateful bastard goes, go ahead and slap it on. Boost it to 10 and enjoy it while it last on stock 370cc injectors and no tuning.
Wei240
05-09-2007, 10:48 AM
yeah, we're here trying to tell you how important tuning is, that's probably the #1 reason people blow up engines
(i don't have any empirical evidence, but you get the point)
it may be expensive to tune, but it cost alot more to rebuild an engine
S14DB
05-09-2007, 11:50 AM
You got one response and you are bitching? Why are you taking apart an engine if you have no clue what you are doing? Just run the wastegate so it dumps all the time. This way you will not have to worry about boost.
Yep the best way to go.
steve shadows
05-09-2007, 03:16 PM
If your running colder plugs (good quality ones gapped down low ie. .028) and running an AFR in the 10.9:1 range you can pull off 19 psi even with a big turbo like a gt3076r.
Its all in the tune...the timing at that pressure/load point etc.
Id say 17-18 psi is safe with a ngk range 7 plug gapped to .028 running a lamda of around .738-.748 or so. so a little on the rich side at peak cylinder pressure.
slider2828
05-09-2007, 07:05 PM
Wow 10.9 is really gas guzzling it. Didn't know people tuned to 10.9. You can also more safely retard the timing at the top under max load, give it more crank leverage.
codyace
05-09-2007, 07:54 PM
Wow 10.9 is really gas guzzling it. Didn't know people tuned to 10.9. You can also more safely retard the timing at the top under max load, give it more crank leverage.
With the introduction of e10 into gas nationwide, I can predict AFR normalcies getting lower and lower...
johngriff
05-09-2007, 08:30 PM
codyace, its california tune, ie: tune for 10%gas 90% water
slider2828
05-09-2007, 10:54 PM
What is e10? Are you serious getting lower? Its going to guzzel gas like mad. I mean from a 14 AFR to like a 10.5, you will almost lose 5-8 miles per gallon conservatively. DANG!!
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