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tacotacotaco
04-26-2007, 05:02 PM
Considering how much extra power is going through the front wheels, traction is remarkable

Few cars have been as eagerly anticipated or made as big an impact as Honda's Civic Type R. The British-built sensation saw off all-comers in a first test against key rivals in Issue 946, and established itself as Auto Express's favourite hot hatch in the process.

Now there's worse news for the opposition. The Japanese firm has created the Type R-R, an even more focused version of the class winner, and a spiritual successor to Ford's Escort Cosworth - and it looks set to kick the Focus ST into touch! We were first to put it to the test.

Its basis is a standard Type R, but a series of modifications swell engine power and reduce kerbweight.

Honda has stripped out the cabin, removing anything that isn't absolutely necessary in the name of shedding the pounds. Gone is the stereo, and for the moment sound deadening is absent, too. The standard seats have now been replaced with figure-hugging racing items, and what these lack in adjustability they make up for by giving a sportier, lower driving position than in the regular car. The racy feeling from behind the wheel is suitably amplified when you press the dash-mounted starter.

As the engine bursts into life, it sounds far more raucous than that of the standard model. Bosses were adamant the original Type R didn't need buckets of power, yet engineers clearly couldn't help themselves when it came to specifying the R-R's motor.

Thanks to careful tuning, this car kicks out a tyre-burning 260bhp. It's the same basic i-VTEC 2.0-litre unit, but Honda has reduced friction on the internals and redesigned the camshafts. However, the greatest power gains have come from electronic improvements made using the ECU to operate the VTEC system.

Now, the engine doesn't go into fuel-sipping mode at lower revs, improving throttle response as a result. Meanwhile, the VTEC set-up cuts in at 5,100rpm instead of 5,400rpm. So rather than the perceptible increase in power you get when VTEC is unleashed on the standard model, the R-R's engine feels stronger throughout the rev range thanks to a 30 per cent hike in torque. Combining a compliant ride with taut handling is one of the standard hot Civic's greatest attributes. And although this car's suspension has been revised to give it more focused handling, it still rides bumps surprisingly well.

Probably the biggest change is to the steering. It has been made even more responsive, so the smallest input to the Alcantara-clad wheel has an immediate impact on the vehicle's position on the road. However, you do have to put your faith in the system because it's lacking in feedback, particularly at low speeds. Still, the car's handling remains nimble and sure-footed.

Another area that doesn't fall short on the standard model is the gear-change. Yet while the original is a manual, this car gets a six-speed sequential unit. You use the clutch to start off, and then simply pull the lever back to shift up and push it forwards to go down through the box.

Changes are made in only 80 milliseconds, which gives a brutal edge to the Type R-R, particularly as the steering wheel writhes with every upshift. Considering how much extra power is going through the front wheels, traction is remarkable. You'd expect to spend a lot of time sitting in a cloud of expensive tyre smoke, but engineers have been careful to tune the suspension so that does not happen. Instead, the car gets on with the job of entertaining its driver with even more purpose than the standard car.

Our drive has left us in no doubt that Honda's Civic is the undisputed hot hatch champion. With more power, it just gets better!
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ThatGuy
04-26-2007, 05:04 PM
Wow. That looks like complete shit.

tacotacotaco
04-26-2007, 05:05 PM
Looks like shit yes but the platform and engine seem amazing. But the body idano whats goin on with all the new cars.

Jon Michael
04-26-2007, 05:38 PM
Why did Honda decide to make cars that look like ugly Saturns? Meanwhile, Saturn releases the Sky...that looks 100x better and like it can eat the Civic.

s13gold
04-26-2007, 05:43 PM
wow that is PRETTTTY UGLY..

s13rookie
04-26-2007, 05:48 PM
That is an ugly vehicle indeed. its like ray charles and elton john teamed up to design it

SNC240SX
04-26-2007, 05:53 PM
That car is awful looking. Like a ricers fantasy with the ugly body kit, and the pointless hood scoop.

But im sure it will handle great and have a rev happy engine to back it up. Hopefully theyll change the design when it comes into preoduction.

Jon Michael
04-26-2007, 06:24 PM
I'd take a Pugeot over that Civic any day of the week. Why did they compare it to the Cosworth??? The Cosworth was a rally champ, but it was awd and turbo. The only thing that could be similar is the handling like it rode on rails. The Cosworth can easily contend with Supras and Skylines, also. This Civic still is just a Civic that handles well.

They should bring back "the bubble".

C. Senor
04-26-2007, 07:02 PM
its still pretty good 260 bhp out of their 2.0. i'll give that to honda...but unfortunately for them that's all i give them. i just dont like ff.

bamaboy
04-26-2007, 09:48 PM
nice mechanicals....shitty anime looking exterior

ls180sx
04-26-2007, 09:50 PM
o snap, the tail lights are interchangable with the new sti!! :D

LB.Motoring
04-26-2007, 09:53 PM
comes with ipod stock?

lol'd at the paint.

wootwoot
04-26-2007, 10:15 PM
I thought it was way awesome...Until I read it has a twist beam rear suspension. Why do the Euro's love that shit so much?!

Kn1ves
04-26-2007, 10:54 PM
Its not OEM Honda, it's from JAS Motorsports

http://www.jasmotorsport.com/civicTypeRGr.htm


If you check the images here
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/208207/civic_cossie_blasts_off.html
it says this

"Created by Honda’s Italian engineering partner JAS."

Munch
04-26-2007, 11:00 PM
It looks like a Citroen or something.

Tenchuu
04-27-2007, 12:03 PM
It looks like they gathered up all the ricers they could find and had them add the most "TYTE" ideas they could think of on it.

the perfect production ricer car.

adrians_s13
04-27-2007, 12:06 PM
sweet! I like Saturns!

azndoc
04-27-2007, 12:43 PM
U.G.L.Y. But I'm sure the true honda heads are loving that car. It does look like a saturn.

Fredy
04-29-2007, 07:40 PM
i think it looks more like a pugeot.. but in all actuality, it's ugly nonetheless..


boo honda! whatver happened to the EK's? haha..

godzillarb
04-29-2007, 09:42 PM
holy crap...are those hood pins on the back of the hatch? That's gotta be the dumbest thing ever, well maybe not as dumb as the that roof scoop. Looks like they stole that thing off a leaf blower or something.

wootwoot
04-29-2007, 09:49 PM
^^^ shut your face...


Iam kinda pissed now. All that race car crap, and it still has a/c. You can see the condenser. lame.

GoodOl'S13
05-18-2007, 02:40 PM
holy crap...are those hood pins on the back of the hatch? That's gotta be the dumbest thing ever, well maybe not as dumb as the that roof scoop. Looks like they stole that thing off a leaf blower or something.
unless its a cf or fiberglass hatch, some dont have latches.

as far as the car goes
:bigok:=performance
:barf:=looks

santacruisin
05-18-2007, 05:05 PM
turbo dc5 would look better and be faster.

liv2drift045
05-18-2007, 07:13 PM
roflmao it DOES look like a snork hahahhahahaha