Toyota becomes #1 today

[s13silvia123]

Toyota "world"s largest carmaker"


news.bbc.co.uk

Japan"s Toyota has overtaken US rival General Motors to become the world"s biggest carmaker, a spokesman for the company has said.
According to company figures, Toyota sold 2.348 million vehicles in the first three months of 2007.



That compares with General Motors (GM)" sales of 2.26 million cars and small trucks during the same period.

Japanese carmakers have been boosting foreign sales and making gains in the US, the world"s largest car market.

Toyota has enjoyed strong sales on the back of the success of its pioneering hybrid, the Prius, and new models such as the Camry Sedan.

Meanwhile, GM has struggled to compete and has been forced to cut thousands of jobs and close factories.

[C. Senor]

lol yeah we bought one of those camry's. toyota has definitely come up and they do make good cars.

[exitspeed]

This is just for quarter one keep in mind. Although I'm sure they will be #1 probably from now on. It was inevitable.

[s13silvia123]

This is just for quarter one keep in mind. Although I'm sure they will be #1 probably from now on. It was inevitable.



true this is the the first quater but from now on i think they are gonna become #1. the quality and costumer service they have is awesome. they listen to thier consumers and help to the best of thier ability.

[exitspeed]

Yea, too bad they don't listen to ALL their customers.

[s13silvia123]

Yea, too bad they don't listen to ALL their customers.

it would be even better if they did.

[mRclARK1]

Toyota makes a good product for sure. I've owned 2 GM's in my life, one was as reliable as day and night; the other broke down weekly. haha

But GM is a part of the same economy we are, if they're struggling it's, in an indirect way, bad news for us.

[s13silvia123]

Toyota makes a good product for sure. I've owned 2 GM's in my life, one was as reliable as day and night; the other broke down weekly. haha

But GM is a part of the same economy we are, if they're struggling it's, in an indirect way, bad news for us.


i use to work for a company who makes GM and Ford engine parts the quality is horrific and not worth the cash you pay for. bad parts are always shipped out even if they didnt pass ISO900 regulations. if you want quality USDM you'll have to go to the higher end like Caddy's.

[chmercer]

when will toyota hurry the fuck up and buy GM

nissan renault can have chrysler

honda can get ford or whatever, ford sucks

and mazda just blows

[civilized_drifter]

= if you want quality USDM you'll have to go to the higher end like Caddy's.
caddys are part of GM

[exitspeed]

caddys are part of GM

Caddilac is rated one of the highest customer service companies in the world for any type of company. Seriously they are rated in the top 10. There's no other car companys even close.

At least you know if it beaks down you'll probably get a new car and a blow job out of it.

[theicecreamdan]

Honestly, the best cars I've ever had were my Chevy's and my Toyotas.

They've also been my shittiest, but also the easiest to take care of and most reliable.

[s13silvia123]

caddys are part of GM

i know
i meant as in higher quality caddy's have a stricter quality control than jut any regular GM

[wootwoot]

when will toyota hurry the fuck up and buy GM

nissan renault can have chrysler

honda can get ford or whatever, ford sucks

and mazda just blows



Nissan would more so be interested in Ford because of their truck capabilities which they would love to capitalize on.

Mazda blows?? They are number one in reliability currently and holding some of the highest resale value. Taking away the crown from the usual Porsche.

[SimpleS14]

I honestly don't want Toyota as #1....they are just 'meh'. Atleast GM has some interesting cars out there in the market. I think this lead will last only so long...once Saturn climbs in sales (as its already doing) and GM gets the green light for the RWD cars...I can see GM getting there spot back.

[kouki_s14]

Camrys have been a top seller for a longgggg time. Throw in all the Scions being sold AND Lexus'. Not to mention all the eco friendly people are buying Prius'(even has optional navi). They dont even have a RWD car(besides lexus), or any sports car for that matter. Toyota is a force to be reckoned with

[exitspeed]

once Saturn climbs in sales (as its already doing)
Saturn is up an astounding 20%!!! Holy Crap. That's damn near unheard of. And they still have new product coming out that is going to move.

and GM gets the green light for the RWD cars...

Bad news. The RWD GM cars are on hold. The only one that still has the green light right now is the Camaro because they are already so far into development. I nearly wept when I read it. Here's the report from Autoblog:

Telling the Chicago Tribune, "We've pushed the pause button. It's no longer full speed ahead," Lutz sounded the alarm. The new Camaro (due in 2008) and Impala sedan (2009) are meant to help GM out of its profit rut, but both are built on GM's large RWD platform and Lutz doesn't see a way to get 30% better gas mileage without a serious amount of investment (which would be passed on to consumers). Lutz declared it's too late to stop the Camaro, but said "anything after that is questionable," apparently including Camaro derivatives and the Impala sedan. Other cars that would be affected by the "pause" include a performance-oriented midsized Pontiac, the Buick Lucerne, a compact Cadillac, and high HP versions of the Solstice and Sky roadsters -- essentially, a full assortment of cars specifically meant to put GM back in the green.

All of the carmakers are waiting to see what the EPA does in response to the Supreme Court's ruling that the EPA can regulate CO2 standards (which they haven't done up to now), Lutz says GM will decide on its rear drive cars when the government settles the CO2 and CAFE debates.

Showing just how tense he is on the new emissions storm, Lutz said that "if we legislate CO2 from cars, why not legislate we take one less breath per minute since human release capricious amounts of CO2?" Even the new trio of compacts introduced at the show won't help -- Lutz saying "small-car mileage only counts toward CAFE if you build them here," and you can't build small cars here at a profit. . . . [The] domestic fleet is where GM needs help."

Camrys have been a top seller for a longgggg time.

Top selling CAR. The (shitty) F-150 is the highest selling vehicle in America. By A LOT. It's retarded, I know.

[kouki_s14]

Top selling CAR. The (shitty) F-150 is the highest selling vehicle in America. By A LOT. It's retarded, I know.

In America, but i doubt it sells well everywhere else in the world

[chmercer]

^^^ random side note, my dad bought a new harley davidson f150 a few years ago, the one with the supercharger, and its got 100k miles, and it gets bad maitenance and like has never broken. i am wondering if its all jsut going to go to shit all at once. i would not have expected an FI ford motor to do anything besides suck shit after seeing all the cobra problems.

[kouki_s14]

maybe harley did something right, or it's just plain luck(that wont last forever)

[S13 Charlie]

It's not a harley he's talking about. There was a special edition F-150 for a few years - the Harley-Davidson edition. That's the truck mercer is talking about.

And bollocks to GM for pausing FR platform development and hiding behind CAFE requirements. RWD does not equal poor fuel economy. Well, it does if the FR vehicle you're talking about is a Hummer, or a Suburban or an Escalade, or a... you get the idea.

[vanish1]

Damn you middle age men and women who want the best bang per package buck while maintaining the belief of japanese "reliability"

[exitspeed]

Damn you middle age men and women who want the best bang per package buck while maintaining the belief of japanese "reliability"

I don't think there's a middle aged men or women on this site other then Yuri's dad. :ugh:

[CKAMC]

isnt mazda owned partly by ford?

also another reason I think ford is for the fail is the mustang... come on you have to get a rouse model in order to get independent rear suspension....

imagine if toyota started doing sport cars again... they would rule the world...well in my book (not the lexus end but the lower line toyota do sports cars)

[s13silvia123]

isnt mazda owned partly by ford?

also another reason I think ford is for the fail is the mustang... come on you have to get a rouse model in order to get independent rear suspension....

imagine if toyota started doing sport cars again... they would rule the world...well in my book (not the lexus end but the lower line toyota do sports cars)

yes Mazda is now owned by Ford for the last i think of 12-13 years somthing like. thats why the quality in Mazda went down over the years.

Nissan would more so be interested in Ford because of their truck capabilities which they would love to capitalize on.

Mazda blows?? They are number one in reliability currently and holding some of the highest resale value. Taking away the crown from the usual Porsche.



the are a few things that japanese auto makers dont like about the USDM companies. its not clean and the quality is not up theirs in terms what they would expect like the japanese companies. they would turn down US companies so quick cause the unclean conditions which could cause problems of safety to the employees.

[s13poop]

my dad is a toyota salesman down here in punete hills toyota

he's been selling camry's/corollas like hotcakes

http://www.zihuatanejo.com.mx/bananas/hotcakes.jpg

[wootwoot]

Mazda's quality has currently "recovered" from the merger with Ford and has improved both brands qualities immensely. Woohoo Ford actually did something that worked for once!

[cfrost]

Toyota has always been #1 in my heart :love:

[TheSquidd]

Mazda's quality has currently "recovered" from the merger with Ford and has improved both brands qualities immensely. Woohoo Ford actually did something that worked for once!

Mazdaspeed 3 FTMFW

[Kwick Silver SF]

Woohoo ! ! ! !

[Walperstyle]

anyone that is actually interested in how they did it

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/item/books-978007139231/0071392319/The-Toyota-Way-Fourteen-Management-Principles-from-the-World?ref=Books%3a+CWBAB+%e2%80%93+Hero

thanks!

[s13gold]

its cuz of those damn hybrids......how bout a next gen supra.

[MURPHY]

woohoo.maybe we will get a raise for being the most ballin company lol

[swift_style]

I love Toyotas. Each and everyone in my family owns a Toyota while I on the other hand and the only one that has a Nissan.
Dad- 85' Pick-up Truck x-cab. Runs like a champ.:bigok:
Mom-01' Rav-4
Brothers-86' Corolla GT-S:2f2f:
Older sister-01' Corolla
Younger sister-95' Corolla
Me, myself, and my Nissan 240sx:ugh:

[ixfxi]

when will toyota hurry the fuck up and buy GM

nissan renault can have chrysler

honda can get ford or whatever, ford sucks

and mazda just blows

mazda DEFINATELY blows goat penis.

as for toyota being #1, thats great - i feel like going and buying a <insert ecological car of choice>

god, i feel like such an asshole not *seriously* caring for the environment, like some people do. i mean to me, as long as a car doesnt smell rediculous (eg, is equipped with a working catalyst) and is running properly, i could care less about gas mileage and the environment.

something about the feeling of power, boost, handling.. all of those things make the world so unimportant to me.

i really am feeling guilty, because there are so many people driving economical, environmentally friendly, fwd cars on this planet.

fuckit.. sometimes ya gotta race

[Jon Michael]

You do know they did a report on those hybrid cars, I believe it was on msn news. It showed that you don't save any money by buying and driving one. Considering most hybrid cars on the market cost more than their gas-powered brothers, and they took 3 cars and calculated what you save on gas in a year (it was around like $300-600 average if I remember correctly). Then they just did the math on how much you payed extra to how much you save. It came out to, you'd have to drive the car for 7 or 8 years to actually get any savings. It's not getting any cheaper...2007 Civic Sedan is $15,810, 2007 Civic Hybrid (only avaiable as sedan) is $22,600 baseline. Difference is $6,790 if the Hybrid is base, even if you save $600-700 on gas a year you'd still have to drive the car for over 9 years to save anything...

I'm fine with my car, I'm fine with the fact that it has a custom exhaust with 2 straight back pipes and no cat or anything. Besides, China's growing industries are going to produce even more green house gases anyways. Even if we cut our emissions by 6% in like 4-5 years China is going to be replacing that and adding another 5%.

I'm glad Toyota is #1 now, they make good cars and trucks. American companies need to listen to people better and stop making crap. Maybe this will finally send enough ripples into their ponds that they wake up and change their lineup.

[ixfxi]

I'm fine with my car, I'm fine with the fact that it has a custom exhaust with 2 straight back pipes and no cat or anything. Besides, China's growing industries are going to produce even more green house gases anyways. Even if we cut our emissions by 6% in like 4-5 years China is going to be replacing that and adding another 5%.

not running a cat is plain stupid, its the EASIEST thing you can do to cut down emissions. shit, just being in an underground parking lot with no cat makes me want to vomit.

[Jon Michael]

One person isn't going to save the world...yes, it is a BAD attitude to have. But, at the same time I recycle and do as much other things to help the environment...apparently me doing that hasn't done shit in the past years. Besides, it's not like I'm in one of those HUGE lifted trucks running just pipes or muscle cars around here. I agree is smells if you're in enclosed areas, but I never am with my car. So really, besides the smell sometimes, I really don't have a big reason to run a cat otherwise...

[sleepy_s13]

I would rock a toyota hybrid. I drive from west covina to burbank for work. the mpg would be great

[TheWolf]

It came out to, you'd have to drive the car for 7 or 8 years to actually get any savings.

Savings for you. Yes. Savings for the enviroment and all that oil are there. Think about it like this from an exxon point of view. Every prius that toyota makes. is like printing a 6 thousand dollar loss in revenue over the next 6+ years. While it's not alot when you look at the fact that they make 300,000+ of them a year. That's 1.8billion in future revenue lost per year of toyota production.

[Jon Michael]

See, I'm not exactly saying they're bad cars...it's just that I think they need to work on the technology a little more and work on getting the prices within the reach of the normal cars. I know a lot of people who instantly overlook hybrids because they are $6-7k more expensive, people don't like spending extra money.

And, while it is a noble cause...you're also basically asking America to give up that same $1.8billion dollars over the next few years. When they could just as easily carpool, take a bus/subway/lightrail system, walk or ride a bike. There are so many things to do, I personally carpool a lot and I walk places. I still drive the really long distances and when I want to cruise a little, but I have to say I haven't driven in a week or two. Adding to that my new job sends a shuttle to pick up all of it's employees in the area, and I'm going to be living with 2 of my really good friends...I'm going to be driving a lot less when I move and I start working there this summer.

[Walperstyle]

american car companies fail mostly because

a) unions (why keep the jobs of people that are not needed, it is better to restructure then to add some new people on 'payola')
b) lack of simplistic 'to-the-point' design
c) They were caught trying to build hype instead of listen to what people want.

GMC has made so many variations of cars that nodoby wants.

[keroto]

saw the news this morning