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street240
04-24-2007, 05:24 AM
There has been some speculation surrounding Emance performance rom tunes. I am referring to this thread-http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=140162-. I said that I would contact the tuner bring him (he was actually a member) on here to clear up some misconceptions and answer Zilvia member questions. I get tired of reading posts from people who have not even tried one. Feel free to fire off any questions you guys may have on the Rom tunes in question. :2f2f:
street240
04-24-2007, 05:29 AM
1.why are the rom tunes so cheap?
2.have your tunes been dyno or at least knock tested?
3.what do you wot afrs look like?
4.anyone you have tuned for that we might know?
5.what setups can you tune for?
nosajton
04-24-2007, 11:15 AM
Hello, this is Jason, owner of Emance LLC.
I see you have a few questions in reguards to our tunes.
1. You ask why the tunes are so cheap? i ask why does everyone else charge so damn much?? i suppose if you want to spend $500 you could, but i am not trying to make a million dollars, i am trying to help the poor 240 owners which i was when i first started on my 240 in college at 19.
2. Yes our tunes have been tested on dyno and or wideband. we also have knock lights installed on cars we tune to make our base tunes.
3. a/f's are around 14.5 (loopback mode) on idle and at WOT they are around 11.5-11.8 (you can customize this)
4. I dont know if they are on zilvia, but i have tuned for a lot of local people to me in san diego, in fact, if anyone reading this lives in san diego, i'd show them my tune, we could install one in their car for a very low cost as long as they wrote a report here on zilvia.
5. I have tuned very high compression ka's, sr20det redtop/blacktops, z32 na and tt, and my personal favorate KA-T. if anyone also lives local to san diego, i can show how well the tunes work on my 500whp ka-t. just converted it to E85, man does that fuel love timing!
so in short, if you are trying to tune a common turbo setup sr20 or ka-t, i can tune for most turbos as long as they have a compressor map, i have successfully tuned for up to 100lb injectors. as long as you have an s13 or at least a conversion harness for s14/s15 to run a s13 ecu (i have a write up how to make one), you can take advantage of my tunes.
hope this helps you guys out.
1.why are the rom tunes so cheap?
2.have your tunes been dyno or at least knock tested?
3.what do you wot afrs look like?
4.anyone you have tuned for that we might know?
5.what setups can you tune for?
fromxtor
04-24-2007, 11:34 AM
Are you tuning SOHC Ka-ts?
nosajton
04-24-2007, 04:11 PM
:repost: Are you tuning SOHC Ka-ts?
yes i do tune sohc ka-t's as a matter of fact my buddy is running one at the local scca. he's running a gt28rs and he's always in #1 or #2 place in his class. i think he drives crazy though
timtiminy
04-24-2007, 04:50 PM
Nosajton:
1)I am within driving distance of san diego. Could i possibly get a base tune for my setup from you then drive down there and have you fine tune my 240 on a dyno?
2)how much would you charge for something like this?
3)would you be able to fine tune, if I send you a dyno plot with air/fuel at a few different boost settings? I know this is something enthalpy offers.
4)I have heard that there is a possibiliy that your daughterboard quality is inferior to many other daughterboards. That it doesn't even have moisture protective coat and the circuit board is of cheap materials. This results in the cheap prices. Being able to do this for much cheaper because of the lack of quality in electronic components such as capacitors, resistors, and/or eeprom/flash chips. Is this just someones speculation or is there truth/partial truth in this statement? Tell us about the quality of the hardware of your system.
Thank you!
nosajton
04-24-2007, 07:14 PM
1) 2) I pm'd you about getting your car tuned by us.
3) yes, if you have a dyno plot/sheet it will greatly help us.
4) our daughterboards have a life expectancy of 10 years, per manufacture.
anyhow, i warranty your tune for the life of it. if anything happends, i will fix it for free. there are no resistors on our daughterboards. the capacitors we use are Kemet and are known for their superior components. our chips are texas instruments the best out there. the flash chips are amtel or sst just to clear up the 'speculation' this statement is nonsense, whoever is telling you our quality is poor really does not know much about electronics.
Nosajton:
1)I am within driving distance of san diego. Could i possibly get a base tune for my setup from you then drive down there and have you fine tune my 240 on a dyno?
2)how much would you charge for something like this?
3)would you be able to fine tune, if I send you a dyno plot with air/fuel at a few different boost settings? I know this is something enthalpy offers.
4)I have heard that there is a possibiliy that your daughterboard quality is inferior to many other daughterboards. That it doesn't even have moisture protective coat and the circuit board is of cheap materials. This results in the cheap prices. Being able to do this for much cheaper because of the lack of quality in electronic components such as capacitors, resistors, and/or eeprom/flash chips. Is this just someones speculation or is there truth/partial truth in this statement? Tell us about the quality of the hardware of your system.
Thank you!
fromxtor
04-24-2007, 07:39 PM
Nosa PM me about a KAET rom tune
johngriff
04-24-2007, 08:12 PM
What type of dyno are you using?
Can you tune 8 bit ecu's like the ca18det?
Can you change coil dwell time?
street240
04-24-2007, 10:02 PM
Im looking at a tune for sr/z32/740/2871 combo. Is that one supported and can you tune for s3 cams?
nosajton
04-24-2007, 10:49 PM
What type of dyno are you using?
Can you tune 8 bit ecu's like the ca18det?
Can you change coil dwell time?
sure can tune ca18det. what code ecu you got?
yes we can change coil dwell time but we dont really recommend playing with it too much because you can burn your coil
nosajton
04-24-2007, 10:50 PM
Im looking at a tune for sr/z32/740/2871 combo. Is that one supported and can you tune for s3 cams?
do you have a dyno chart for the s3 cams? i am sure i can tune for it.
timtiminy
04-25-2007, 10:47 AM
nosajton, Thanks for the pm, i will be getting back to you shortly. thanks for answering all my questions and being forward about everything. I think you will be a great asset to the zilvia.net community. Thanks for coming on here and answering questions and whatnot. pm sent
Chrischeezer
04-26-2007, 12:51 PM
Is this the same as the Eformance that is advertised on ebay?
if so, i have an ECU being done by them right now..
street240
04-26-2007, 04:12 PM
Yeah it is the same guy
So yesterday Jason came out to my house to tune my KA, a '91 n/a setup inside a '71 Datsun 510. I actually didnt hear about him here or at ka-t.org but emailed him off of Craigslist (I could tell from the KA parts he was selling that he was not a 'normal' 240 guy).
This guy is easily the most knowledgeable KA tech I've ever met. I had a few ghetto-rig problems, he diagnosed, pinpointed and fixed before even getting started on the actual tune. I don't have the most exciting setup, just headers, intake and full exhaust, but he did what he needed to do, and now? Engine purrs perfectly, as far as power and torque, definitely noticed a difference in almost any situation, street or freeway. He even accepted my core ecu, which had old Pokez salsa spilled on it (:yum:).
If you're a local and he's got the time, you'd be stupid to not have him tweak your rig. Thanks again Jason! And BTW, after riding with you in your beast of a 240, I gotta say it's faster than a motherfucker. Easily would take my roommates 2006 STI, which is both hilarious and sad.
street240
04-30-2007, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the update. Everyone always forgets to report back.
Rockogtr
04-30-2007, 03:06 PM
i pm'd him about my set up and im waiting to hear back ...my stock turbo is out and by the weekend i should have the gt2871r in with the new mani and elbow all im gonna need is some injectors but im not sure if i should go with 740's or 650's...
street240
04-30-2007, 03:12 PM
You could do 650's, but if you go 740 they will most likely be the last set you ever buy.
S14DB
04-30-2007, 03:52 PM
Did you create the base tunes or did you get them from another source?
nosajton
04-30-2007, 04:36 PM
Thanks Eric, I hope you enjoy your datsun! if/when you're ready to turbo it, give me a call, i'll hook you up. with that car you wont need a huge turbo. a nice sr t25 will get you about 280whp or t28 will get you past the 300 mark.
btw, just turned the boost up a little more on my 240. going to dyno it tomorrow. i'll post the results on here.
So yesterday Jason came out to my house to tune my KA, a '91 n/a setup inside a '71 Datsun 510. I actually didnt hear about him here or at ka-t.org but emailed him off of Craigslist (I could tell from the KA parts he was selling that he was not a 'normal' 240 guy).
This guy is easily the most knowledgeable KA tech I've ever met. I had a few ghetto-rig problems, he diagnosed, pinpointed and fixed before even getting started on the actual tune. I don't have the most exciting setup, just headers, intake and full exhaust, but he did what he needed to do, and now? Engine purrs perfectly, as far as power and torque, definitely noticed a difference in almost any situation, street or freeway. He even accepted my core ecu, which had old Pokez salsa spilled on it (:yum:).
If you're a local and he's got the time, you'd be stupid to not have him tweak your rig. Thanks again Jason! And BTW, after riding with you in your beast of a 240, I gotta say it's faster than a motherfucker. Easily would take my roommates 2006 STI, which is both hilarious and sad.
nosajton
04-30-2007, 04:38 PM
all of my tunes are done by me. not another source. i have learned from some of the best tuners, but it is my original work.
Did you create the base tunes or did you get them from another source?
timtiminy
04-30-2007, 05:22 PM
i noticed you said your car is running off of E85. i know its just a matter of time before more of california gets that option. the closest e85 pump to me is in san diego. how much tuning needed to be done to run your car off of this stuff?
grnappletree14
04-30-2007, 09:14 PM
i just got my back, i couldnt even tell if it was tuned. i didnt get no sticker on the ecu telling the spec of the tune like other tuners i seen have done. i installed it on the car, it ran better before.
street240
04-30-2007, 09:36 PM
What tune did you order and what tune did you have before?
grnappletree14
04-30-2007, 10:53 PM
this what i wanted done. i had nothing tune for my ecu yet this is my 1st tune. i sent him this list but i dont know exactly what he did. he never told me, im not sure if he went with my list
Injector Size 550cc Deutschwerks
Turbo T25 but I want to upgrade to a t28 so if u guys can tune it to work for both t25/t28
MAFS Q45 maf
Motor S13 redtop sr20det not sure what year
Rev Limit 7500RPM/ 8000RPM what is best for the redtop sr20det
Air/FuelRatio Will idle just like stock ecu: around 14 Wide open throttle: 12.0-12.5
Speed Limit Removed
Also I have a FMIC, bov, 3” downpipe, getting an exhaust soon. K&N racing sport air filter, walbro fuel pump , 87-91 gas, but usually im going to run 91 so add that, raise boost to like 10 psi im running 7 psi now.
nosajton
04-30-2007, 11:26 PM
i live 5 mins from that pump :) its 3.11 a gallon and it's 105 octane. i love it!
pretty much you need to run 30% more fuel across the board on the fuel map for e85 to work. it seems e85 loves timing too. my powerband is smooth as silk at 20+ psi.
i noticed you said your car is running off of E85. i know its just a matter of time before more of california gets that option. the closest e85 pump to me is in san diego. how much tuning needed to be done to run your car off of this stuff?
nosajton
04-30-2007, 11:31 PM
i just got my back, i couldnt even tell if it was tuned. i didnt get no sticker on the ecu telling the spec of the tune like other tuners i seen have done. i installed it on the car, it ran better before.
we dont put stickers to make it look stock. its the sleeper look.
i need more information why you say it does not run correctly, i stand by what i sell 100% and will fix it.
if it is running real crappy, the daughterboard may have came loose in transit. it happends. take the cover off and reseat the board.
as with any tune, it will run a little richer so you dont blow anything up.
hope this helps
street240
04-30-2007, 11:33 PM
sleep look under a kick panel?????
nosajton
04-30-2007, 11:34 PM
i just reviewed your bin i made for you.
it is tuned for the following:
sr20det, 550cc deatschwerks injectors, 7600rpm rev limit, no speed limit, q45 mafs, fuel/timing maps adjusted to 12psi (to be safe)
please email me, we'll get this right.
this what i wanted done. i had nothing tune for my ecu yet this is my 1st tune. i sent him this list but i dont know exactly what he did. he never told me, im not sure if he went with my list
Injector Size 550cc Deutschwerks
Turbo T25 but I want to upgrade to a t28 so if u guys can tune it to work for both t25/t28
MAFS Q45 maf
Motor S13 redtop sr20det not sure what year
Rev Limit 7500RPM/ 8000RPM what is best for the redtop sr20det
Air/FuelRatio Will idle just like stock ecu: around 14 Wide open throttle: 12.0-12.5
Speed Limit Removed
Also I have a FMIC, bov, 3” downpipe, getting an exhaust soon. K&N racing sport air filter, walbro fuel pump , 87-91 gas, but usually im going to run 91 so add that, raise boost to like 10 psi im running 7 psi now.
nosajton
04-30-2007, 11:35 PM
sleep look under a kick panel?????
most people i have tuned for 'want it to look stock' for some reason
slideways2004
05-01-2007, 12:04 PM
it looks like he doesn't have a q45 maf?
i have a few questions. if you have a tuned ecu like the one your selling, what would you set the safc to? like stock? also do you have rom tunes for s14 sr's with vtc. can you modify the vtc points? how much is one of your tunes?
Josh K.
05-01-2007, 12:16 PM
I just ordered a tune from Jason (Emance), I'll let every one know my results.
Thanks Jason for looking at the bin on the ecu I bought. you saved my a#@!
Rockogtr
05-01-2007, 08:44 PM
i also placed an order ...ill be posting some dyno sheets in a couple of weeks
goj_cloud
05-02-2007, 12:51 AM
hey jason i was wondering if you can tune my sr when i get my whole setup done and if u can tune for e85
nosajton
05-02-2007, 02:05 AM
hey jason i was wondering if you can tune my sr when i get my whole setup done and if u can tune for e85
sure can. are you local in san diego? you will absolutely love your car with e85.
you can expect about 20% more tq and hp over 91 octane at same boost level. e85 is much more tolerant to detonation.
what psi you plan on running? because you need to compensate for 30% more fuel. i am running 740's with fuel pressure bumped up to 70psi and i am at 85% IDC @ 22psi.
Afliction523
05-02-2007, 09:58 AM
I have only been on this forum a few times. This may actually be my first post. I usually am on NICO. Jason has done the tune for my ka-t. At first I thought I had a problem with my tune, but it turns out it was my setup. I had to move my mafs further away, and bam everything worked great. His customer service was quite well. I also looked inside my ecu to see his work. It looks clean, and better than I could myself. I just had to reseat the daughterboard like he mentioned prior to installing it in my s13. Mine works great, and I would back him up on it. I have been driving my car with no issues.
This is my setup
Top mont ssac
IHI RHC6 T3/T04e
Jecs 480cc injectors @ 80% Dynamic IDC
Walbro 225
z32mafs
hks ssqv (non recirculated) hot pipe
3in downpipe and exhaust
Auto to manual swap using the auto ecu
I also included a print out of my injectors to help with the tune.
Testing Information
Customer Name Steven Oliver Injector Type side feed high impedance
Application Nissan Testing Pressure 43.5
Manufacture JECS Set Qty 4
Flow Data
Static @100% IDC Dynamic @75% IDC
Injector # cc/min lbs/hr cc/min lbs/hr
1 540 51.4 432 41.1
2 540 51.4 431 41.0
3 539 51.3 434 41.3
4 531 50.6 429 40.9
Min Flow 531 50.57 429 40.86
Max Flow 540 51.43 434 41.33
Avg Flow 538 51.2 432 41.1
%Balanced 98.3% 98.8%
%Difference +/- 0.8% 0.6%
Latency
9v 7.66
12v 2.69
14v 1.37
16v 1.06
goj_cloud
05-02-2007, 10:46 AM
sure can. are you local in san diego? you will absolutely love your car with e85.
you can expect about 20% more tq and hp over 91 octane at same boost level. e85 is much more tolerant to detonation.
what psi you plan on running? because you need to compensate for 30% more fuel. i am running 740's with fuel pressure bumped up to 70psi and i am at 85% IDC @ 22psi. no im in norcal but once i finish my whole setup by the end of the summer they should have a couple of more e85 pumps in norcal
nosajton
05-02-2007, 01:07 PM
i just got back from the dyno
check it out
http://eformance.info/dyno.jpg
that is t3/t4, z32, 740cc KA-T running on E85 @ 18psi
put down 388 whp at 5900 and 436 ft lbs at 3800
i think i would of hit 400whp if my stupid manual boost controller was working properly.
i will be back next week for another round. god i love e85
S14DB
05-02-2007, 01:24 PM
What fuel system changes are you making for the E85?
nosajton
05-02-2007, 01:31 PM
What fuel system changes are you making for the E85?
as hardware is concerned? nothing. tuning wise, you need about 30% more fuel
goj_cloud
05-02-2007, 02:28 PM
hey since e85 is a alternative fuled vehicle technically we should be smog exempt if we used it right?
DP_Michelle G
05-02-2007, 03:56 PM
^^ no i wish that could be
S14DB
05-02-2007, 06:14 PM
as hardware is concerned? nothing. tuning wise, you need about 30% more fuel
The primary differences from non-FFVs is the elimination of bare magnesium, aluminum, and rubber parts in the fuel system, the use of fuel pumps capable of operating with electrically conductive (ethanol) instead of non-conducting dielectric (gasoline) fuel, specially-coated wear-resistant engine parts, fuel injection control systems having a wider range of pulse widths (for injecting approximately 60% more fuel), the selection of stainless steel fuel lines (sometimes lined with plastic), the selection of stainless steel fuel tanks in place of terne fuel tanks, and, in some cases, the use of acid-neutralizing motor oil. For vehicles with fuel-tank mounted fuel pumps, additional differences to prevent arcing, as well as flame arrestors positioned in the tank's fill pipe, are also sometimes used.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85
So the E85 won't eat my fuel tank, lines and hoses?
timtiminy
05-02-2007, 09:13 PM
Afliction523 (http://www.zilvia.net/f/member.php?u=51414) vbmenu_register("postmenu_1358902", true); : who did the testing on your injectors? looking for a place to do the sti sidefeeds i just got.
Afliction523
05-02-2007, 09:33 PM
Afliction523 (http://www.zilvia.net/f/member.php?u=51414) vbmenu_register("postmenu_1358902", true); : who did the testing on your injectors? looking for a place to do the sti sidefeeds i just got.
I had mine done by Deatschwerks. I received the dynamic service for 16 bucks per injector. This was discounted from 24 bucks a injector since I was a member on NICO. I also received a free lag test(latency). They shiped them back via DHL, and is included in the $16 per injector pricetag. Im happy with the result.
nosajton
05-02-2007, 11:23 PM
no e85 wont eat your fuel tank lines and hoses. people mistake ethanol for methanol. methanol will eat through everything. ethanol is mildly corrosive. there have been tests done proving that ethanol wont hurt anything. as long as you change your oil every 3k or less, you wont have any problems running e85
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85
So the E85 won't eat my fuel tank, lines and hoses?
S14DB
05-02-2007, 11:46 PM
Methanol oxides and eats aluminum like crazy. Ethanol is a solvent that will melt/dissolve rubber and plastics.
nosajton
05-02-2007, 11:59 PM
AMS on ka-t did a study on this, they have had rubber parts and aluminum parts submerged in e85 for over a year and they look just like they did on day 1
Methanol oxides and eats aluminum like crazy. Ethanol is a solvent that will melt/dissolve rubber and plastics.
Inland180
05-03-2007, 12:49 AM
ne one know ne thing about the digital speedos????
mine flickers on and off randomly..most of the time never on:confused:
why are you asking about this on this thread????:confused:
street240
05-03-2007, 01:43 AM
I was wondering the same thing.
Inland180
05-03-2007, 05:25 AM
just ordered a tune from jason... we"ll see how it goes. ill let you guys know.
toledo240
05-03-2007, 10:08 AM
the price you quote me is awesome :-) it seriously made my day much better knowing it is possible to spend hundreds of dallars especially when im doing a lighter tune for 300whp on a sr. Have you ever thought of doing the rechip thing, and giving you back the old one like enthalpy does???
also any warranties or money back guarentees???
street240
05-03-2007, 11:00 AM
I was wondering also if you were going to start doing that. We would also like to see some Zilvia specials.
toledo240
05-03-2007, 12:17 PM
dewfintley group buy this.. and put me on
nosajton
05-03-2007, 01:05 PM
i do offer rechipping. current customers it is only $50 + shipping.
as with any high performance mod, there is no warranties. i am not responsible if you put the wrong gas in your car or if your mafs go's bad and leans out the motor, etc. but all of my tunes have been tested and work. if you have any problems, i will retune the car for free. this is why i recommend a knock lite and a wideband in every modified car.
the price you quote me is awesome :-) it seriously made my day much better knowing it is possible to spend hundreds of dallars especially when im doing a lighter tune for 300whp on a sr. Have you ever thought of doing the rechip thing, and giving you back the old one like enthalpy does???
also any warranties or money back guarentees???
S14DB
05-03-2007, 02:06 PM
AMS on ka-t did a study on this, they have had rubber parts and aluminum parts submerged in e85 for over a year and they look just like they did on day 1
Are you sure it wasn't Abel Racing in Oklahoma?
Afliction523
05-03-2007, 04:06 PM
I know I dont have much rep on this forum, but I can def. say Jason is a good guy to deal with. Many 240 owners in the chicago area know me, or know someone who does. His tune beats paying 500+ dollars hands down.
Rockogtr
05-03-2007, 08:46 PM
I know I dont have much rep on this forum, but I can def. say Jason is a good guy to deal with. Many 240 owners in the chicago area know me, or know someone who does. His tune beats paying 500+ dollars hands down.
Did he do your tune ?? if so what's your set up and what are you making for power?? i have one on order and cant wait to see how my set up dose...
Afliction523
05-03-2007, 09:44 PM
Did he do your tune ?? if so what's your set up and what are you making for power?? i have one on order and cant wait to see how my set up dose...
My set up is posted a few posts up. He did my tune for me. I pull pretty good on my buddys STI. Its a 05 with a downpipe, and HKS exhaust. Im guessing 290-300whp on 9lbs. I had no problems with the tune. The ecu he sent me was a different code then my original, but functions properly. Just make sure you check that the daughter board is seated correctly. Shipping can jar it loose. From my experience he knows what he is talking about, and doing. I like my ecu, and there is no way I will ever pay 500 for another. The ecu looks clean inside. I suppose I can take it out of the car when I get over to the grage, maybe tomorrow. Ill shoot some pics if Jason approves.
street240
05-03-2007, 10:51 PM
Pics would be nice. I think we would all like to see some of the actual work since there has been a lot of positive feedback.
nosajton
05-04-2007, 12:47 AM
this right here is a picture of a KA ecu after i have tuned it. should look just like yours, right Afliction523?
http://www.eformance.info/dbinstalled.jpg
Pics would be nice. I think we would all like to see some of the actual work since there has been a lot of positive feedback.
street240
05-04-2007, 12:49 AM
So if I send my ecu in, what am I looking at for a return time?
nosajton
05-04-2007, 11:49 AM
So if I send my ecu in, what am I looking at for a return time?
normally the turn around is 1-2 days. depending on how busy i am. lately there has been a lot of interest, but i'd make your ecu a priority, street240.
Rockogtr
05-04-2007, 11:51 AM
hey jason do you know if my chip has gone out yet?
street240
05-04-2007, 01:04 PM
Another quick question, when you tune for e85, is there anyway to run other gas at times? I would like to do E85 but we only have two stations.
nosajton
05-05-2007, 01:50 AM
hey jason do you know if my chip has gone out yet?
Ross, i have been swamped with orders, i actually ran out of daughterboards. ordered a bunch more, they should be in tomorrow and yours should ship then hopefully.
nosajton
05-05-2007, 01:50 AM
Another quick question, when you tune for e85, is there anyway to run other gas at times? I would like to do E85 but we only have two stations.
i could make you 2 sets of chips. one for e85 and one for gas or you could use a switch to switch maps
street240
05-05-2007, 02:31 AM
That would be sweet. so you mean like a toggle switch type thing?
S14DB
05-05-2007, 05:30 AM
Are you selling Enthalpy ECU's now?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200105595998
nosajton
05-05-2007, 09:09 PM
no its a keyword
Are you selling Enthalpy ECU's now?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200105595998
johngriff
05-05-2007, 10:12 PM
What is going on?
S14DB
05-05-2007, 10:25 PM
no its a keyword
Wow, so you're just totally ripping off enthalpy's name? No where in your ad do you say it's not an Enthalpy tune.
I still haven't seen where you have shown the work you put into these maps. Still sounds like you are just Map Scaling a tune you copied from Enthalpy or eccs.hybridka.com
'90RPS13
05-06-2007, 12:59 AM
Well, It seems to me like all the reviews could all be one dude. If they arent, awesome work Jason. Sorry for putting you on the flank. But 2 members with 2 posts w/ high reguards to your product, sounds fishy. I would like to see some regular's feedback. Hope its legit though, I will definately need one soon.
Plus, If my ECU was tuned, I would like a sticker on it stating what its tuned for.
Rockogtr
05-06-2007, 07:23 AM
Well, It seems to me like all the reviews could all be one dude. If they arent, awesome work Jason. Sorry for putting you on the flank. But 2 members with 2 posts w/ high reguards to your product, sounds fishy. I would like to see some regular's feedback. Hope its legit though, I will definately need one soon.
Plus, If my ECU was tuned, I would like a sticker on it stating what its tuned for.
i ordered one so ill let you know how it dose..ill be posting the graph's
toledo240
05-06-2007, 08:58 AM
i ordered one so ill let you know how it dose..ill be posting the graph's
ya know.. for the price.. and money back guareentee... why the hell not???? Im putting my order in today
nosajton
05-06-2007, 08:10 PM
Well, It seems to me like all the reviews could all be one dude. If they arent, awesome work Jason. Sorry for putting you on the flank. But 2 members with 2 posts w/ high reguards to your product, sounds fishy. I would like to see some regular's feedback. Hope its legit though, I will definately need one soon.
Plus, If my ECU was tuned, I would like a sticker on it stating what its tuned for.
ouch, that hurt, kinda. i cant make everyone happy, there is a guy right now pissed off because he bought my ecu on ebay and when it was shipped was mad it wouldnt fit in his s14. o
i tell everyone who emails me that they love their ecu to post on zilvia. only a few have so far. i expect more later.
i am far too busy to write fake posts on here or any other forum.
nosajton
05-06-2007, 08:14 PM
Wow, so you're just totally ripping off enthalpy's name? No where in your ad do you say it's not an Enthalpy tune.
I still haven't seen where you have shown the work you put into these maps. Still sounds like you are just Map Scaling a tune you copied from Enthalpy or eccs.hybridka.com
i have put many hours and thousands of dollars into dyno time for my tunes, i am not going to just post my maps on here. i am sorry. i dont believe i charge that much for what i do.
why dont you get your facts straight before accusing people of stealing bins.
drifts135
05-06-2007, 10:56 PM
OK, how bout a non flamerific post, hehe.
I'm just checkin' in to see if you can tune RB20 ECUs. If you can, I have this one right here ready to go to you.
Did the pics I sent you of my spare ECU do the trick?
drifts135
05-08-2007, 10:19 AM
Just gettin' this back up to the top of the ole list. I will be safc tuning this heap next week if I dont happen to hear from you soon. Eeeek, please dont let that happen. hehe.
Afliction523
05-08-2007, 02:28 PM
That is exactly what mine looks like. I been running the car all day now has 500miles on the setup rinning great
Nikeboy355
05-08-2007, 02:52 PM
I had a question...
How does a check engine light for smog related malfunctions affect the ignition and fuel tables?...
I heard a long time ago that anytime you have a CEL, the ECU goes into a safe mode where it alters the tables... Is that true?
nosajton
05-08-2007, 03:41 PM
if the car reports knock or mafs is bad, the car will go into 'safe mode' which it has a separate fuel and timing maps for safe mode. safe mode is good just in case you have a blown wastegate line or run shitty gas, the ecu will retard the timing wayyyyyy back to save the motor. this is how i program all my tunes.
the CEL will not come on other wise with my tunes.
I had a question...
How does a check engine light for smog related malfunctions affect the ignition and fuel tables?...
I heard a long time ago that anytime you have a CEL, the ECU goes into a safe mode where it alters the tables... Is that true?
Afliction523
05-08-2007, 06:24 PM
Well, It seems to me like all the reviews could all be one dude. If they arent, awesome work Jason. Sorry for putting you on the flank. But 2 members with 2 posts w/ high reguards to your product, sounds fishy. I would like to see some regular's feedback. Hope its legit though, I will definately need one soon.
Plus, If my ECU was tuned, I would like a sticker on it stating what its tuned for.
Hey if you are ever in Chicago ill show you persoally. Ill talk some shit about his ecu when it doesnt work :rofl: I was a little iffy about it at first, but when i started her up mmmmmmm I got a email from a guy who saw this post, and offered to even show him in person.
Nikeboy355
05-09-2007, 12:23 PM
Are there any E85 fueling locations in the LA/OC area?...
I looked online at the E85 fuel locator sites and couldn't find one that was within 2 hours of me...
Inland180
05-09-2007, 12:28 PM
USA Gasoline (soon as Conserv Fuel)
11699 San Vicente Blvd.
Los Angeles , CA 90049
Opening June 21,2007.
nosajton
05-09-2007, 01:12 PM
if you guys wanna run it, i can tune for it. i have tuned 3 cars already for e85.
you can expect about 20% more torque and power at the same boost levels just because you can turn timing up 2-3 degrees safely with e85.
USA Gasoline (soon as Conserv Fuel)
11699 San Vicente Blvd.
Los Angeles , CA 90049
Opening June 21,2007.
Rookie84
05-09-2007, 10:11 PM
hey, are you gonna answer my PM?
ticklemeermuel
05-10-2007, 01:16 AM
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street240
05-10-2007, 01:27 AM
Yeah some numbers would be great. You are on of the first to report back.
nosajton
05-10-2007, 02:26 AM
Ermuel, if you're ever in san diego, let me know, i'd like to check your ride out, and i can show you how to make a ACT XTREME Clutch slip in my KA-T :)
Just got my ECU from jason. This shit pulls...here's my setup...short list nonetheless
-gt2871r .64 a/r (stock wastegate setting at 1bar)
-deatchworks 550cc
-z32 maf
-Walbro 225
-FMIC
-3in downpipe and exhaust
pretty common setup pulls very hard. I have yet to get a dyno yet I'll post a chart to back this guy's work. I had a problem at first with my MAF settings, and he was more than happy to send me a new set of chips. FOR FREE, no charge, no bitching, no BS. His customer service is great as well, replies quickly, and even sent the new set via priority mail.I'll be going through him for my brother's p10 w/pulsar gti-r tune as well. No need to spend the $500...his work is legit.i' I'll get it dyno'd so you guys can see some numbers...
drifts135
05-10-2007, 03:51 AM
Sniff sniff. Still no RB20 tuning helps?
Chrischeezer
05-10-2007, 11:17 AM
sent my ECU to Emance about 4 weeks ago...
got it back (5days later) and its was DOA!?? very confused, no injector signal from ECU, sent it back to Jason. he tells me a capacitor was leaking all over my board. and was trying to fix it, I mean, stuff happens like this all the time, its no ones fault. but this just feels like its taking forever, still waiting on the ECU and i will up date when i get it back..
... edited :)
nosajton
05-10-2007, 12:33 PM
Chris, when i receieved your ecu, i noticed there was some corrosion on the bottom of the board. like i mentioned to you in emails this is something that happends to circuit boards that have been exposed to high heat/high humidity or water.
when i tuned your ecu, i hookd it up to my computer to make sure there are no short circuits, it passed.
but when you receieved it, the injector was not firing, so you sent it back, i offered to look at it.
like i said in previous emails, i will try to clean up the corrosion and patch some of the circuits but this is something that happends with circuits, it is not my fault, it just happends.
i dont want you to be out of a car though chris, if the ecu is not repairable, i will tune another ecu for you free of charge. i dont want you to feel like you're screwed.
see picture attached of chris's ecu (note you can even see how the corrosion is eating the screw):
http://www.eformance.info/chrisecu.jpg
sent my ECU to Emance about 4 weeks ago...
got it back (5days later) and its was DOA!?? very confused, no injector signal from ECU, sent it back to Jason. he tells me a capacitor was leaking all over my board. and was trying to fix it, I mean even enthalpy has messed up ECU's but this just feels like its taking forever, still waiting on the ECU and i will up date when i get it back..
Rockogtr
05-10-2007, 03:20 PM
hey jason i got my chip today but there was no directions on how to install it can i get them emailed to me ???pics would help to
Nikeboy355
05-10-2007, 04:08 PM
USA Gasoline (soon as Conserv Fuel)
11699 San Vicente Blvd.
Los Angeles , CA 90049
Opening June 21,2007.
That is great... So If I need some between now and then I'll just have to drive down to San Diego...
Chrischeezer
05-10-2007, 04:13 PM
sorry i didnt mean to make it sound like YOU messed my ECU up, i do understand this stuff happens its just weird that it worked before i sent it out, i just hope everything works out.. thanx Jason.
Afliction523
05-10-2007, 04:52 PM
Thats intersting.....
Afliction523
05-10-2007, 05:02 PM
Just got my ECU from jason. This shit pulls...here's my setup...short list nonetheless
-gt2871r .64 a/r (stock wastegate setting at 1bar)
-deatchworks 550cc
-z32 maf
-Walbro 225
-FMIC
-3in downpipe and exhaust
pretty common setup pulls very hard. I have yet to get a dyno yet I'll post a chart to back this guy's work. I had a problem at first with my MAF settings, and he was more than happy to send me a new set of chips. FOR FREE, no charge, no bitching, no BS. His customer service is great as well, replies quickly, and even sent the new set via priority mail.I'll be going through him for my brother's p10 w/pulsar gti-r tune as well. No need to spend the $500...his work is legit.i' I'll get it dyno'd so you guys can see some numbers...
I thought I had a maf problem too. It was just my maf was to close. Keep the z32 maf at least 8-12 inches away. Good Luck with the car
Josh K.
05-10-2007, 10:55 PM
I woud be scared to run that ecu even if it did work :eek:
Inland180
05-11-2007, 12:10 AM
hey jason i got my chip today but there was no directions on how to install it can i get them emailed to me ???pics would help to
didnt he tell you to take it to your local electronics repair shop and they would do it for you? Thats the best thing to do before you mess something up yourself.
nosajton
05-11-2007, 12:13 AM
That is great... So If I need some between now and then I'll just have to drive down to San Diego...
give me a buzz if you do, i live 5 mins from that station :)
nosajton
05-11-2007, 12:15 AM
hey jason i got my chip today but there was no directions on how to install it can i get them emailed to me ???pics would help to
sent you a pm, check your messages
cotbu
05-11-2007, 01:01 PM
I have s13 redtop sr, z32afm, gt28r, 555cc injectors, 3in exhaust, FMIC, megan fpr and safc.
Installing the board was like any other daughterboard install, header and cj2 jumper.
First startup, safc 2in 6out, starts right up idles @ 1500rpm, then gradually goes down to 900 rpm... (startup enrichment 13.3) airflow was still .9 then @ 850~rpm airflow was .6 smooth idle. Noway 14.7 @ operating temps. stays there for 5 mins, thought wideband had frozen. revving engine changes afr , ok... cool.
Zero out the SAFC, even decel.
Go for a spin, nothing really just watching gauges seems. ok till dyno time.
I'd like to do a gas milage comparison, then some hotlaps. I also want to see what the maps are doing via consult, time will tell.
P.S. I have not removed the SAFC yet. Also I'm tuned for 91 but run 93.
When I get on the dyno, obviously going to need to make changes, I just dont want to loose any power or torque.
nosajton
05-12-2007, 12:58 AM
Let me know how things go, you should be able to easily run 1.4 bar with that tune. you should notice some real power gains.
let me know how things work out!
I have s13 redtop sr, z32afm, gt28r, 555cc injectors, 3in exhaust, FMIC, megan fpr and safc.
Installing the board was like any other daughterboard install, header and cj2 jumper.
First startup, safc 2in 6out, starts right up idles @ 1500rpm, then gradually goes down to 900 rpm... (startup enrichment 13.3) airflow was still .9 then @ 850~rpm airflow was .6 smooth idle. Noway 14.7 @ operating temps. stays there for 5 mins, thought wideband had frozen. revving engine changes afr , ok... cool.
Zero out the SAFC, even decel.
Go for a spin, nothing really just watching gauges seems. ok till dyno time.
I'd like to do a gas milage comparison, then some hotlaps. I also want to see what the maps are doing via consult, time will tell.
P.S. I have not removed the SAFC yet. Also I'm tuned for 91 but run 93.
When I get on the dyno, obviously going to need to make changes, I just dont want to loose any power or torque.
Rockogtr
05-14-2007, 12:20 PM
hey jason i sent you a pm
steve shadows
05-14-2007, 01:01 PM
2. Yes our tunes have been tested on dyno and or wideband. we also have knock lights installed on cars we tune to make our base tunes.
the stock knock sensor is useless.
anyone using it as a base for saftey or tune is not a tuner I would trust.
please clarify what you mean by this.
Do you have access to a personal/company dynometer? or outsource?
Why not tune every car on the dynometer one by one? The power possibilties would be much higher and tune much better especially for midigating tuning effects of Cali gas and other influences.
just curious
nosajton
05-14-2007, 07:19 PM
all our base maps are dynotuned.
for fine tuning we use turboxs knock lites (google it) and the bosch knock sensor turboxs recommends. it works beautifully it is so powerful it even detects mild knock. i advance/retard timing so there is not even mild knock (naked ear cant hear it)
we could dyno tune cars one by one if you live local to san diego and are willing to pay. but for most people, or base tune will make you happy.
the stock knock sensor is useless.
anyone using it as a base for saftey or tune is not a tuner I would trust.
please clarify what you mean by this.
Do you have access to a personal/company dynometer? or outsource?
Why not tune every car on the dynometer one by one? The power possibilties would be much higher and tune much better especially for midigating tuning effects of Cali gas and other influences.
just curious
steve shadows
05-15-2007, 01:21 AM
yeah using a light to tune for knock is not my fortay but i suppose it could work in a pinch.
If i could data log the input from the sensor the knock lite unit uses then i might pick one up in the near future.
im fine (tune my own goodies and others ems') but im sure there are people who arent willing to go standalone and could use your services.
there is quite a meaningless monopoly on tuning in cali regarding stuff like this the more smaller people start up the easier it makes it for me to get some legitimacy as well, at least in the short term.
cheers
Rockogtr
05-19-2007, 09:11 PM
well i got my chip in this week and are getting my injectors monday so by next week i should have some dyno #'s to see how jasons tune dose
KawBoy
05-22-2007, 01:40 PM
So do you order the chip or a whole ecu?
And how do you order?
misfitsfreak81
05-26-2007, 10:52 AM
AMS on ka-t did a study on this, they have had rubber parts and aluminum parts submerged in e85 for over a year and they look just like they did on day 1
that is an irrelevent test. if the parts have been submerged then they have not seen oxygen. for something to corrode or oxidize it needs the presense of oxygen. so yes, eventually e85 will eat your fuel system.
misfitsfreak81
05-26-2007, 11:08 AM
sorry i didnt mean to make it sound like YOU messed my ECU up, i do understand this stuff happens its just weird that it worked before i sent it out, i just hope everything works out.. thanx Jason.
corrosion is funny like that. it will work great untill its disturbed and bang, it wont work after. thats pretty common for electronic stuff.
Chrischeezer
05-26-2007, 03:00 PM
just sent in my New ECU.. cant WAit to get it back... i will update :)
nosajton
05-27-2007, 12:08 AM
that is an irrelevent test. if the parts have been submerged then they have not seen oxygen. for something to corrode or oxidize it needs the presense of oxygen. so yes, eventually e85 will eat your fuel system.
i have heard mixed stories about this. my buddy has a flex fuel ford truck and they use rubber fuel lines and seems like steel hard lines.
so i dont understand if it would corrode and eat the lines why they would install them at the factory.
but to be ultra safe i ordered a methanol fuel kit. it comes with 6an teflon coated stainless steel fuel lines with all nitrile o-rings (methanol safe)
S14DB
05-27-2007, 08:04 AM
Factory fuel lines are Aluminum which Alcohol loves to eat. Most 'rubber' fuel line these days is synthetic and Alcohol has less of a drying effect.
Just cause the parts are in one piece does not mean there is not surface oxidation and corrosion going on. I'm sure there is some residue at the bottom of the buckets.
May work now but you will have FPR or injector failure in the future as deposits build up in the injectors.
misfitsfreak81
06-02-2007, 02:46 PM
i have heard mixed stories about this. my buddy has a flex fuel ford truck and they use rubber fuel lines and seems like steel hard lines.
so i dont understand if it would corrode and eat the lines why they would install them at the factory.
but to be ultra safe i ordered a methanol fuel kit. it comes with 6an teflon coated stainless steel fuel lines with all nitrile o-rings (methanol safe)
good choice. im pretty sure that the new flex fuel vehicles are running teflon lines as well. although i have not had a chance to verify this for my self. im goin e85 as soon as we get a pump up here in BFE. im sold after hearing the power you are making.
mike
misfitsfreak81
06-02-2007, 02:48 PM
Factory fuel lines are Aluminum which Alcohol loves to eat. Most 'rubber' fuel line these days is synthetic and Alcohol has less of a drying effect.
Just cause the parts are in one piece does not mean there is not surface oxidation and corrosion going on. I'm sure there is some residue at the bottom of the buckets.
May work now but you will have FPR or injector failure in the future as deposits build up in the injectors.
this is also a very good point. well done. should help to run a fuel system cleaner every 6000 miles or so too.
misfitsfreak81
06-02-2007, 02:51 PM
off topic, but i just had an advertiser banner on this page take me directly to an ebay store. WTF?????
mike
Rockogtr
06-04-2007, 08:41 PM
so i got my car was all set to get dyno'd today but my ecu was a lil messed up ...so i couldnt get any #'s yet , it was real rough on the start up then idle down a lil bit but kept bucking, it was real rich and the e manage couldnt comunicate with the ecu we took 50 % w/ no change ,i ve emailed jason and am trying to solve the problem but no luck yet..ill keep everyone updated to see how the tune works
nosajton
06-05-2007, 10:35 PM
if emanage cannont communicate with the ecu, the ecu is in fail safe mode.. let me know if the check engine light is on. also make sure the knob on the ecu is turned all the way counterclockwise also was the ecu jumper cj1 switched to cj2?
so i got my car was all set to get dyno'd today but my ecu was a lil messed up ...so i couldnt get any #'s yet , it was real rough on the start up then idle down a lil bit but kept bucking, it was real rich and the e manage couldnt comunicate with the ecu we took 50 % w/ no change ,i ve emailed jason and am trying to solve the problem but no luck yet..ill keep everyone updated to see how the tune works
Rockogtr
06-06-2007, 05:27 AM
ya the jumper is moved to cj2 and ill check the knob...
RedlineRacer
06-06-2007, 10:30 AM
Wow, so you're just totally ripping off enthalpy's name? No where in your ad do you say it's not an Enthalpy tune.
I still haven't seen where you have shown the work you put into these maps. Still sounds like you are just Map Scaling a tune you copied from Enthalpy or eccs.hybridka.com
It says this right in the description, "This auction is for a E~mance tuned ecu. These ecu's are comparable to the big guys that charge $500-600! you get the hype, without paying the price. no more $500-600!"
Rockogtr
06-06-2007, 11:46 AM
so i turned the knob counter clock wise and disconnected the e manage ...turned the key and the idle didnt even get to a 1000 rpm and then backfired and died, i thought i blew something it was so loud, any more idea's jason ??i was hoping to drive it to a meet this weekend but its not looking good
nosajton
06-06-2007, 12:26 PM
so i turned the knob counter clock wise and disconnected the e manage ...turned the key and the idle didnt even get to a 1000 rpm and then backfired and died, i thought i blew something it was so loud, any more idea's jason ??i was hoping to drive it to a meet this weekend but its not looking good
i just shipped you out a new daughterboard and chips
lets see if this helps. if it does just send the old one back to me
Josh K.
06-07-2007, 12:15 AM
after multiple issues (not related to the tune) I finally got my car running good.
20psi on a FP Big28 and it rips.
I do have some stuttering at full boost but I'm sure its my plugs.
I'll have a dyno sheet asap.
Thanks for everything Jason, your topnotch and have been very helpful.
A+++++
nosajton
06-09-2007, 12:00 AM
what gap are you running? at 20psi you should be around 0.24 gap for your boost level so you dont get spark blowout. in my ka-t i run 0.20 gap at 29psi w/no spark blowout
after multiple issues (not related to the tune) I finally got my car running good.
20psi on a FP Big28 and it rips.
I do have some stuttering at full boost but I'm sure its my plugs.
I'll have a dyno sheet asap.
Thanks for everything Jason, your topnotch and have been very helpful.
A+++++
Josh K.
06-10-2007, 12:45 AM
can you gap the iridiums?
nosajton
06-10-2007, 01:43 AM
can you gap the iridiums?
sure can, i got iridium ix in my car right now
the way you gap iridiums is you put the gapper in the plug and bend the ground while the gapper is in there
it is a pita but it works
toledo240
06-11-2007, 02:02 PM
i also will be running my fp28 around 18-20 psi.. i got my chip in there and its really running hella rich... than again i dont know what the hell im doing with a safc so once i get back from vacation ill let you guys know some numbers i pull out on a dyno and fine tuned.:D
after multiple issues (not related to the tune) I finally got my car running good.
20psi on a FP Big28 and it rips.
I do have some stuttering at full boost but I'm sure its my plugs.
I'll have a dyno sheet asap.
Thanks for everything Jason, your topnotch and have been very helpful.
A+++++
fromxtor
06-11-2007, 02:44 PM
Got my chip from this guy, still haven't had time to check it out though.
nosajton
06-11-2007, 10:41 PM
i also will be running my fp28 around 18-20 psi.. i got my chip in there and its really running hella rich... than again i dont know what the hell im doing with a safc so once i get back from vacation ill let you guys know some numbers i pull out on a dyno and fine tuned.:D
turn it down a little on the safc. at 20psi i rather tune on the rich side than the lean if you know what i mean :)
Rockogtr
06-15-2007, 09:10 PM
got the new board installed , the idle got better but dies after the idle comes down ... im still trying to figure out... but i might just say fuck it and use the e-manage
nosajton
06-15-2007, 09:47 PM
got the new board installed , the idle got better but dies after the idle comes down ... im still trying to figure out... but i might just say fuck it and use the e-manage
do you have access to a wide band so i can see some afrs? how does it run off of idle?
Pacman
06-15-2007, 10:53 PM
I have a few questions:
-It looks like you can't tune on S14's? I have an OBDII car so would that make me out of the loop as far as an alternative to JWT's $600 tag for a reflash?
-Is this a simple 'remove chip and install new chip' type thing after your work was performed? Kind of like the older Chevy's that Superchips makes for them. We wouldn't have to keep shipping the ECU back to you for re-tunes, would we? This would make it easy for future upgrades.
-Your work looks like it all fits in the O.E. computer case, correct?
-Will the MIL work normally? What about the OBDII data port if you can tune '96-up cars?
-How much, roughly, would a tune cost and a re-tune after your initial tune was completed? (You can PM the rough price if you want to keep it quiet).
-You can tune N/A and run pump gas, right? I see a lot of E85 and turbo talk.
-Is there any way you could make an option to place a sticker on the ECU and/or give a paper saying what work was performed for what mods to what car? This would make me feel much better about a tune knowing that the computer will work for 'X' mods.
-What kinda gas mileage loss in incurred? I know it will be lower since you're richening the mixture up.
-We send you our ECU, you send us another, correct? Do you make stock chips to plug in for smog? Call it a smogging chip if you will.
-Lastly, how do the options work (as far as A/C, C/C, etc.) after a re-flash?
This sparks my interest since I hear a lot of talk about my Honda friends getting chipped and socketed ECU's. I wanna have a ECU to match my modifications, too!
BigVinnie
06-16-2007, 01:23 AM
Who gives a flying fuck??? What is this thread about?
If businesses are reputable, people say good things, if people say bogus shit they start asking questions in threads like this....
Gabe Z taught me ROM tune knowledge comes free. You can copy maps and all that bullshit, all it comes down to is does it work???? There is no copyright to engine management rom tunes. Take what you will at some ones discretion or learn to tune it your self for under $100 in software/hardware, and chips.
What the fuck is the point to this B.S????
Rockogtr
06-16-2007, 05:25 AM
do you have access to a wide band so i can see some afrs? how does it run off of idle?
no wideband ...not till im on the rollers...when it was @ the shop they had one but now the cars back home and i cant drive it anywhere
BigVinnie
06-16-2007, 10:11 AM
Chris, when i receieved your ecu, i noticed there was some corrosion on the bottom of the board. like i mentioned to you in emails this is something that happends to circuit boards that have been exposed to high heat/high humidity or water.
when i tuned your ecu, i hookd it up to my computer to make sure there are no short circuits, it passed.
but when you receieved it, the injector was not firing, so you sent it back, i offered to look at it.
From a professional stand point why didn't you contact the buyer about the problems with the board and discuss that the board would need to be replaced with a new one??? They do make board replacements it's not that hard to explain the situation. The buyer has to assume responsibility that he is getting a "like new" product with the tune. It only adds to the reputation of the seller to do something right the first time. If you notice corrosion you should contact the buyer immediately explaining a new board would be needed.
nelson8708
06-16-2007, 01:56 PM
all of my tunes are done by me. not another source. i have learned from some of the best tuners, but it is my original work.
That is not true. I purchased a tune from you for the sohc ka and it is identical to the develish stage 3 N/A tune on the hybridka forum. I paid 50$ for something i already had for free. Wont make that mistake agian. Copied his tune and sold it as your own.....:tweak:
KawBoy
06-16-2007, 09:21 PM
OUCH!
LOL.. good read
nosajton
06-17-2007, 04:55 PM
From a professional stand point why didn't you contact the buyer about the problems with the board and discuss that the board would need to be replaced with a new one??? They do make board replacements it's not that hard to explain the situation. The buyer has to assume responsibility that he is getting a "like new" product with the tune. It only adds to the reputation of the seller to do something right the first time. If you notice corrosion you should contact the buyer immediately explaining a new board would be needed.
I did contact the buyer.
the buyer had someone from ebay send me an ecu to me, i contacted buyer and let him know it had corrosion and explained i was going to try and clean it up but it was pretty bad.
KawBoy
06-17-2007, 04:57 PM
What about the whole taking a map from a forum thing?
nosajton
06-17-2007, 04:57 PM
That is not true. I purchased a tune from you for the sohc ka and it is identical to the develish stage 3 N/A tune on the hybridka forum. I paid 50$ for something i already had for free. Wont make that mistake agian. Copied his tune and sold it as your own.....:tweak:
there was one tune over 18 months ago that a collegue of mine said he made for the sohc. devious brought it to my attention that it resembled his tune and we immediately cut ties with that person and stopped selling that tune.
you can even ask devious about this. this is old news.
ZenkiSX
06-18-2007, 11:14 AM
The site says that you guys have eveything we need for the ECU. So do we still have to send you guys a ECU or do you guys supply the ECU?
KawBoy
06-18-2007, 12:48 PM
He just sends the chips and you solder it yourself.. or you could send it to him and he could have it done for extra
Afliction523
06-21-2007, 05:31 PM
The site says that you guys have eveything we need for the ECU. So do we still have to send you guys a ECU or do you guys supply the ECU?
Jason does have options.
1) Plug and Play tuned ECU all ready to go(no down time)
2) Just the chips (you get a daughter board yourself and do all the work)
3) Send him a ECU and he will send it back already chipped and ready to go.
I went with step one since I am impatient. BTW 1000miles problem free other than my own small mistakes, nothing wrong with the tune so far.
Rockogtr
06-22-2007, 11:42 AM
i still cant get my rom tune working so im just gonna tune it with my e manage ... hey jason any refunds ??
So can you tune so an SR20det with an SC61 (maybe sc67), BC stage 3 cams, Greddy intake on 1000cc MSD injectors and Z32 maf?
Guessing an 8500rpm redline and 25+ psi on race gas.
Not looking to get maximum power out of the combo but need a descent tune that wil allow me to have fun without risking my built motor until I get an AEM
ZenkiSX
06-25-2007, 03:36 PM
Price went up for the ECU tune on ebay. About the same price as Redline tune now.
steve shadows
06-25-2007, 03:43 PM
why are you guys running AFCs?
Throw them away.
If Jason is offering legitimate tuning services he should be able to tune safely and your AFC will do nothing positve but offset timing curves.
Jason, tell them to dump the AFC's. Maybe we can get a better idea of how well your services are simply in the Tuned ECU's capability to match output and their different set-ups.
Rockogtr
06-25-2007, 07:40 PM
why are you guys running AFCs?
Throw them away.
If Jason is offering legitimate tuning services he should be able to tune safely and your AFC will do nothing positve but offset timing curves.
Jason, tell them to dump the AFC's. Maybe we can get a better idea of how well your services are simply in the Tuned ECU's capability to match output and their different set-ups.
i cant get my tune working so i have to tune the e manage till i can get a EMS..and i still havnt heard anything back from jason
norcal_black240
07-02-2007, 01:55 AM
Any update on prices?
nosajton
07-05-2007, 01:00 PM
Any update on prices?
Sorry guys for not responding on here, i have been on vacation.. i am now back in town and ready to rock and roll
price went up just a little to $125 shipped for daughterboard/tune and $250 shipped for a complete ecu plug and play.
redline charges $300+ just for daughterboard/tune. so my prices are much lower than them.
91240xs
07-08-2007, 02:50 AM
Talking with him right now....I just realized I bought one of these for my previous SOHC almost 2 years ago (had 156k on it) and it detonated so bad I burned a hole through the piston. Now I can't say for sure it was all the tunes fault. I did not check my timing first (my fault) and have no idea what it was set at, but it didn't ping before socketing the ecu. I just attributed it to being an ebay tune, had no idea until recently he was on any nissan boards. If I decide to try this out again for my SOHC-T I will let everyone know how it works out. As of this minute I am going to rom tune myself for the injectors and then fine tune with the safc and a wideband.
91240xs
07-08-2007, 11:56 AM
I just read through all of this thread and saw that there was a guy that they had employed a while ago that had tunes that looked like Gabe's (deviouska) here's the thread I found on the hybrid website. http://eccs.hybridka.com/viewtopic.php?t=285
I'm guessing that's the one that I purchased as Gabe's stage3 N/A is fairly extreme on timing. I had to back it down on my current n/a setup.
nosajton
07-09-2007, 12:02 AM
Talking with him right now....I just realized I bought one of these for my previous SOHC almost 2 years ago (had 156k on it) and it detonated so bad I burned a hole through the piston. Now I can't say for sure it was all the tunes fault. I did not check my timing first (my fault) and have no idea what it was set at, but it didn't ping before socketing the ecu. I just attributed it to being an ebay tune, had no idea until recently he was on any nissan boards. If I decide to try this out again for my SOHC-T I will let everyone know how it works out. As of this minute I am going to rom tune myself for the injectors and then fine tune with the safc and a wideband.
you should always check your timing before installing any tune. timing should always be at stock because the timing is extensively modified in my tunes. you must also run at least 91 octane at all times.
nosajton
07-09-2007, 12:03 AM
I just read through all of this thread and saw that there was a guy that they had employed a while ago that had tunes that looked like Gabe's (deviouska) here's the thread I found on the hybrid website. http://eccs.hybridka.com/viewtopic.php?t=285
I'm guessing that's the one that I purchased as Gabe's stage3 N/A is fairly extreme on timing. I had to back it down on my current n/a setup.
yes we broke ties with this guy over 18 months ago as stated in an earlier post on this thread
Rockogtr
07-09-2007, 05:28 AM
so jason whats up with refunds??? u havent replied yet its only been a couple weeks ....should i just take that as no
nosajton
07-09-2007, 11:21 AM
so jason whats up with refunds??? u havent replied yet its only been a couple weeks ....should i just take that as no
There is not a problem with my tune, there is a problem somewhere else, could be because you are piggybacking and got a emanage hooked up inline. you told me first your car was running real rich, i cut the fuel back 50% then you tell me it is still running rich?? something is wrong. try checking fuel pressure, injector orings. 650/z32 mafs combo is a combo i have been doing for a long time and i know the first set of chips has worked great for a lot of other people with that same combo.
93superHICAS
07-09-2007, 04:39 PM
sent you a pm. but im gonna say it again, would you be able to tune the stock maf?
nosajton
07-09-2007, 07:31 PM
sent you a pm. but im gonna say it again, would you be able to tune the stock maf?
yes stock maf, n62, n60 can tune for all of those.
-L(-.O)
07-26-2007, 04:13 PM
this guy the man!! very helpful with my ecu and set up! thumbs up times 10!
johngriff
07-26-2007, 04:31 PM
so jason whats up with refunds??? u havent replied yet its only been a couple weeks ....should i just take that as no
If him changing values in the chip is not making a difference, it sounds like you may be on another map (such as timing setup), becasue of faulty sensors or wiring. Try disconnecting the TPS while the engine is running. Its easy to mess up the wiring on the EMU install.
ticklemeermuel
07-26-2007, 11:32 PM
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Rockogtr
07-27-2007, 04:58 AM
got my car all set ... just the e manage, no rom tune i made 340 hp an 300 tq on a mustang dyno
Inland180
07-27-2007, 07:02 PM
Has anyone on here gotten their car running good after this "Emance" tune?
shane_lxi
07-30-2007, 07:04 PM
Lots of people, read back in the thread :D.
I just talked with jason via email. Sent him an email last night at 1 am and he responded within 10 minutes of the email. A very knowledgeable guy, great customer service, backs his product 100%. I will be ordering my ecu from him here in a few weeks, I'll post up a review myself as well.
mashloh
08-14-2007, 10:03 AM
Got my rom tune from Jason as well.
Z32 MAFS, 555cc DW injectors, T28 turbo
First set of chips didn't seem to work but Jason was very quick in sending out a second pair. After some fidgetting around, got everything to work and car runs pretty well. Will get it on the dyno in the next week or so and post results here.
FYI: for people that are still keeping their SAFCs, set the in out to 2in 2out and zero everything else out. Also resetting the ECU by disconnecting the battery seems for a few hours seems to help too.
LongGrain
08-24-2007, 06:21 PM
i have a chipped ecu for my KA24e, right now the motor is basically stock, but i'm gathering parts for a turbo kit, would you be able to re-tune my chipped ecu for my setup? heres what the setup will look like
1990 KA24E
JGS precision manifold
N60 MAF
DSM 450cc injectors
skyline T3 BB turbo
FMIC
3" turbo back.
Otis Performance
08-29-2007, 03:52 AM
Hey trying to find out if you sent off my second ecu chips? because its been some days already and i haven't got anything from you.. and i know your like 1 hour drive alway from me.. so its only takes one day to ship it to me..
also i took my friends chips out his ecu and put them in mine..
it works fine..
so yea something is wrong with the first ecu cheaps for sure.. i can send them back if you want..
nosajton
08-29-2007, 12:33 PM
Hey trying to find out if you sent off my second ecu chips? because its been some days already and i haven't got anything from you.. and i know your like 1 hour drive alway from me.. so its only takes one day to ship it to me..
also i took my friends chips out his ecu and put them in mine..
it works fine..
so yea something is wrong with the first ecu cheaps for sure.. i can send them back if you want..
usps shows they were delivered yesterday: 9101 7850 9140 1248 8624 95
Delivered, August 28, 2007, 4:18 pm, RIVERSIDE, CA 92505
Otis Performance
08-29-2007, 05:11 PM
hey just stalled the new chips today.. they work good.. i just got to check the afr. but it idles and revs good. thanks
nosajton
08-29-2007, 08:01 PM
hey just stalled the new chips today.. they work good.. i just got to check the afr. but it idles and revs good. thanks
thats cool glad it worked out for you.
btw, i am the guy that came over last night to pick up the cherry picker.
i realized after i left you were you. too bad you didnt have your car there, we could of got it tuned spot on right there.
Nikeboy355
08-29-2007, 09:54 PM
Got a question...
How good can a ROM tune be for a setup where you are going to increase the redline by 2000?...
I heard that the timing and fuel maps don't read that high and the ECU will just use the highest values it has for the rest of the RPM band...
Otis Performance
08-29-2007, 10:19 PM
thats cool glad it worked out for you.
btw, i am the guy that came over last night to pick up the cherry picker.
i realized after i left you were you. too bad you didnt have your car there, we could of got it tuned spot on right there.
haha i fucking knew you had to be the guy from San Diego... haha.. You should have tuned that rb engine that was sitting on the ground.. haha... buy yea my car is running super good its so fast..
i just needed that chip to pull my car on the trailer..
i was going to get a standalone next month but with a fpr and your ecu tune.. i am at 11.5 wot at 25psi on greddy 20g turbo.. and i have no problems.. you just savedme a shit load of money a *thanks*
i have alot more cars i need chips for
so send me your number in a pm so i can contact you.
nosajton
08-30-2007, 01:24 AM
haha i fucking knew you had to be the guy from San Diego... haha.. You should have tuned that rb engine that was sitting on the ground.. haha... buy yea my car is running super good its so fast..
i just needed that chip to pull my car on the trailer..
i was going to get a standalone next month but with a fpr and your ecu tune.. i am at 11.5 wot at 25psi on greddy 20g turbo.. and i have no problems.. you just savedme a shit load of money a *thanks*
i have alot more cars i need chips for
so send me your number in a pm so i can contact you.
Get some dyno sheets of that thing man, i want them for my website.
That is what i like to do, save people money. have fun with your sr. go kill some supras :)
it was funny, just yesterday you were all about jim wolf jim wolf or standalone :)
nosajton
08-30-2007, 01:29 AM
Got a question...
How good can a ROM tune be for a setup where you are going to increase the redline by 2000?...
I heard that the timing and fuel maps don't read that high and the ECU will just use the highest values it has for the rest of the RPM band...
if your motor can handle a 9500rpm redline (not too many), i can expand the map resolution that high.
steve shadows
08-30-2007, 09:21 AM
it was funny, just yesterday you were all about jim wolf jim wolf or standalone :)
well nothing compares to a Standalone.
Its pretty much mandatory for anyone who is actually racing.
otherwise its all jacking off in the dark
nosajton
08-30-2007, 10:35 AM
well nothing compares to a Standalone.
Its pretty much mandatory for anyone who is actually racing.
otherwise its all jacking off in the dark
Yeah, but for the average sr/ka guy looking for some extra power or upgrading to a larger turbo and 550/740 injectors, standalone is overkill. i like the quality and reliability of oem. hell i am running over 500whp/28psi on a oem ecu right now w/o any problems.
i have personally seen two good motors blow up (one evo and one redtop) thanks to ems hicuping during a WOT pull. pay $1600 to blow your motor. talk about a shitty day.
Tomkun-s13
08-30-2007, 11:43 AM
Hey Jason, I was wondering how can you say you are the owner of Emance, yet tell people that the company founder is Hirata Miyamoto, and that you have a team doing the tunes. Yet here you say you are the owner and only tuner. By the way a very very good guy that is on another forum that has many Nissan connection can't seem to find anyone by that name being an engineer at that time for those engines. Also I called my ex-girlfriend in japan and had her ask her uncle who worked for Nissan for 25yrs and he had no memory of anyone of that name being on the design and or engineering team when those engines where being produced.
steve shadows
08-30-2007, 11:55 AM
Yeah, but for the average sr/ka guy looking for some extra power or upgrading to a larger turbo and 550/740 injectors, standalone is overkill. i like the quality and reliability of oem. hell i am running over 500whp/28psi on a oem ecu right now w/o any problems.
i have personally seen two good motors blow up (one evo and one redtop) thanks to ems hicuping during a WOT pull. pay $1600 to blow your motor. talk about a shitty day.
thanks to ems hicupping?
you mean shitty tuning?
or shitty wiring?
thats user error, sure hope it wasnt you.
Your running 500whp out of a stock ecu?
You mean re-tuned oem unit? not a stock ecu
I wouldnt mind some pics and dyno graphs (hopefully not a numbers jet)
Chrischeezer
08-30-2007, 12:15 PM
just got my car running pretty good.. after its warmed up it runs great
i have a Rom tuned ECU by jason , it pulls pretty damn hard all the way to redline, A/F seems locked at 11.8-11.9 at WOT really effective tune.
Idle is about 14.7-15.0.. very happy with the rom tune...
nosajton
08-30-2007, 04:11 PM
Hey Jason, I was wondering how can you say you are the owner of Emance, yet tell people that the company founder is Hirata Miyamoto, and that you have a team doing the tunes. Yet here you say you are the owner and only tuner. By the way a very very good guy that is on another forum that has many Nissan connection can't seem to find anyone by that name being an engineer at that time for those engines. Also I called my ex-girlfriend in japan and had her ask her uncle who worked for Nissan for 25yrs and he had no memory of anyone of that name being on the design and or engineering team when those engines where being produced.
Hirata is a good friend of mine who got me into tuning and tought me a lot of the tricks. he works at nissan usa and is co-owner of the company though he does not tune anymore, he's still on payroll. i havent updated that in years, i guess it is time to.
nosajton
08-30-2007, 04:14 PM
thanks to ems hicupping?
you mean shitty tuning?
or shitty wiring?
thats user error, sure hope it wasnt you.
Your running 500whp out of a stock ecu?
You mean re-tuned oem unit? not a stock ecu
I wouldnt mind some pics and dyno graphs (hopefully not a numbers jet)
I never touched those cars. they were professionally installed and tuned at dyno shops down here in SD. they were just showing off the cars to me. it was fucked up because both cars blew in june.
Thanks for the correction, oem reliability on a re-tuned own unit.
as for pics, i got some on ka-t.org along with vids i will be going back to the dyno next week with the 850's and
[email protected] on e85 and see what kind of power i can lay down
http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27472
18psi i was 388whp and 436wtq (old t3t4 turbo)
http://www.eformance.info/dyno.jpg
steve shadows
08-30-2007, 04:54 PM
I never touched those cars. they were professionally installed and tuned at dyno shops down here in SD. they were just showing off the cars to me. it was fucked up because both cars blew in june.
Thanks for the correction, oem reliability on a re-tuned own unit.
as for pics, i got some on ka-t.org along with vids i will be going back to the dyno next week with the 850's and
[email protected] on e85 and see what kind of power i can lay down
http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27472
18psi i was 388whp and 436wtq (old t3t4 turbo)
http://www.eformance.info/dyno.jpg
so what caused a "hiccup"
you can't blame that on the EMS.
thats like blaming hemroids on having an asshole
nosajton
08-30-2007, 05:05 PM
so what caused a "hiccup"
you can't blame that on the EMS.
thats like blaming hemroids on having an asshole
actually it was the ems. he sent it into aem and they said one of the regulator circuits went out. they fixed the ems but refused to fix the motor.
S14DB
08-30-2007, 11:22 PM
For a "regulator circuits" to go out it's more like a voltage spike or short in the harness then design.
nissandr1ft
08-31-2007, 12:34 AM
I just ordered one, how long do you usually take to get the tune ready for the chip and sent out. Other than that I've never pulled an ECU apart, but I have worked with computers a bit. Is this something I can figure out without to much of a problem? I just got the $40 chip...does that include daughterboard so I can install it, or do I need to buy anything else?
steve shadows
08-31-2007, 10:06 AM
actually it was the ems. he sent it into aem and they said one of the regulator circuits went out. they fixed the ems but refused to fix the motor.
as they were right in doing.
Im assuming you replace peoples motors when they fry them with your tunes?
stupid AEM and their crappy customer service
im still waiting for the 500whp dyno graph
dopeassjackson
09-14-2007, 04:30 PM
Email me back Emance
ichibans13.5
09-14-2007, 08:34 PM
does the redtop ecu have only one fuel and timing map or does it have a high det and a low det map.. just in case some crappy gas caused some knock
nosajton
09-14-2007, 09:07 PM
does the redtop ecu have only one fuel and timing map or does it have a high det and a low det map.. just in case some crappy gas caused some knock
redtop like most nissan ecu's have at least 3 fuel maps and 2 timing maps. knock sensor is listening via the timing map until right after peak tq (where knock is most likely to happen) about 3500rpm
if the knock sensor in feedback mode senses knock is switches over to the knock fuel/timing map to prevent you from fucking your motor up.
drifts135
09-16-2007, 04:18 AM
I know you have plenty going on with SRs and KAs, but I sent you some requested pics of the inside of one of my RB20 ECUs a good while back, and I'm still wondering if you are able to tune these for me?????
I now have myself and 3 friends who will purchase tunes immediately if you are able.
My setup will be very basic. 450cc DW injs.
N62 maf
GT2871r on stock mani with adaper box
Usual FMIC
Usual walro
Boost to be set at your suggested level around
11-14ish...
Please, atleast get back to me so that I may move on with other plans if this will not be possible.
Thanks for your help in advance, and I can also send those pics again if you no longer have them around.
lv240s14
09-16-2007, 07:28 AM
how much are the tunes?
kylaris
09-30-2007, 04:07 PM
I bought a chip from tuned chip from him, and the daughter board doesn't seem to fit. Well at least not without shaving/cutting ECU case.
Did anybody had to do this?
I have E5 ECU for S13 SR20DET BT.
here, take a look at the pic, the pins are 1 pin off.
I've asked him and he said this is normal, some ECUs needs to be shaved/cut to fit.
http://www.imageshare.com/gallery/__PrivateDirectories/10138/9E14B5125ACB100461E180444A0E6A471A007295//__Thumbnails/24445/2.jpg
thanks,
smelly240
09-30-2007, 08:05 PM
i have a similar board and my header and pins are lined up
kylaris
09-30-2007, 08:13 PM
could you possibly take a picture and post it up or send to me?
and what ECU are you using?
thanks,
Otis Performance
09-30-2007, 08:14 PM
Yes ou have to cut it alittle to fit. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z70/RB20DET180SX/DSC00625.jpg I bought a chip from tuned chip from him, and the daughter board doesn't seem to fit. Well at least not without shaving/cutting ECU case.
Did anybody had to do this?
I have E5 ECU for S13 SR20DET BT.
here, take a look at the pic, the pins are 1 pin off.
I've asked him and he said this is normal, some ECUs needs to be shaved/cut to fit.
http://www.imageshare.com/gallery/__PrivateDirectories/10138/9E14B5125ACB100461E180444A0E6A471A007295//__Thumbnails/24445/2.jpg
thanks,
kylaris
09-30-2007, 08:18 PM
Yes ou have to cut it alittle to fit. http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z70/RB20DET180SX/DSC00625.jpg
I wasn't sure if he used wrong daughter board, and it wasn't mentioned anywhere.
thanks for the clarification
AntiVtec
10-11-2007, 05:52 PM
Any one dyno their car yet? There is still no clear answer here, some people have had idle problems or running rich and other say its ok but hav'nt dyno tested. So where are we at with this?
misfitsfreak81
10-13-2007, 09:28 PM
so i just installed the daughter board that i recieved over 2 months ago. i know it took me a while but its finally in. so...
car runs great, idle is perfect, no more bucking during shifts or part throttle. feels like there is more power and it comes on sooner, but this is only from the good ol' but dyno. unfortunately there is no actual dyno within 350 miles from me.
good job Jason, thanks again.
mike
powersteeringless180sx
10-14-2007, 11:27 PM
so i just installed the daughter board that i recieved over 2 months ago. i know it took me a while but its finally in. so...
car runs great, idle is perfect, no more bucking during shifts or part throttle. feels like there is more power and it comes on sooner, but this is only from the good ol' but dyno. unfortunately there is no actual dyno within 350 miles from me.
good job Jason, thanks again.
mike
what mods did you have it tuned for?
i've got my tune from jason also but i have yet to install everything.
AntiVtec
10-15-2007, 07:57 AM
I wonder why some people say they're happy and others complain about running rich or hiccuping at high rpm? Is it the tune or just people with other problems blaming the tune cus they dont know any better?
Rockogtr
10-15-2007, 11:35 AM
I wonder why some people say they're happy and others complain about running rich or hiccuping at high rpm? Is it the tune or just people with other problems blaming the tune cus they dont know any better?
well i know my car ran perfect be4 and when i put jasons tune it was pig rich and didnt even wanna idle so he sent me another tune and still didnt help, he wouldnt refund my money but if u wanna try it ill send you mine if you have 650cc and a gt2871r
AntiVtec
10-15-2007, 11:41 AM
well i know my car ran perfect be4 and when i put jasons tune it was pig rich and didnt even wanna idle so he sent me another tune and still didnt help, he wouldnt refund my money but if u wanna try it ill send you mine if you have 650cc and a gt2871r
Sorry to here it man, i would try yours but im on 740's and a 20g turbo. So im guessing your gonna try another tuner now or are you gonna go piggyback/standalone?
Thanks for the feedback and the offer,
Laz
Rockogtr
10-15-2007, 11:47 AM
Sorry to here it man, i would try yours but im on 740's and a 20g turbo. So im guessing your gonna try another tuner now or are you gonna go piggyback/standalone?
Thanks for the feedback and the offer,
Laz
piggybacked it w/ a e-manage made 335hp and 300lbs at 19.5 psi, i would have made more but i hit speed limit with 900 rpm lift in 4th, have you got ur set up running how do u like the 20g?
AntiVtec
10-15-2007, 12:50 PM
Was that on .64 a/r? Well i havnt been able to boost on the 20g cus im on stock tune which is why im shopping around for one. But as soon as i lay into it ill post the but dyno results up here as well as what tune i went with and how its running.
DP_Michelle G
10-15-2007, 01:32 PM
rock,
dont you think most of your problems was from the you using a piggyback with it? rom tunes all run rich unless it's programed on a dyno at least thats what i was told
did you try it with out the manage hooked up to the wiring harness?
steve shadows
10-15-2007, 02:54 PM
piggybacked it w/ a e-manage made 335hp and 300lbs at 19.5 psi, i would have made more but i hit speed limit with 900 rpm lift in 4th, have you got ur set up running how do u like the 20g?
what the fuck is the point of the rom tune if you have to piggy back it with an emanage?
I made more whp with a stock sr and a to4b with stock ecu and AFC at 20 psi in 2002.
.....
dont you think most of your problems was from the you using a piggyback with it? rom tunes all run rich unless it's programed on a dyno at least thats what i was told
no they shouldnt be overly rich.
a little rich (like .5 richer than stock maps is good). The boys from XAT and Sott Avoy (enthalpy for fan boys) is pretty spot on.
Typically this goes back to a base fuel pressure issue messing Fuel dump all over the rev range
not teh tuen. If your FPR is ok, then the tune just sucks ass hole
Rockogtr
10-15-2007, 03:14 PM
rock,
dont you think most of your problems was from the you using a piggyback with it? rom tunes all run rich unless it's programed on a dyno at least thats what i was told
did you try it with out the manage hooked up to the wiring harness?
i totally unhooked the e manage and tried the rom tune and still wouldnt run
AntiVtec
10-15-2007, 04:06 PM
Damn now thats what has me worried. Your taking it pretty lighlty there rock, I would be raising hell! As long as I was sure its the tune and nothing else.
Rockogtr
10-15-2007, 04:19 PM
Damn now thats what has me worried. Your taking it pretty lighlty there rock, I would be raising hell! As long as I was sure its the tune and nothing else.
well whats ur suggestion??? i asked for the money and i tried to make a paypal complaint but i waited to long after cuz i was trying to get it working this was also 6 months ago if not longer ...
Rockogtr
10-15-2007, 04:23 PM
what the fuck is the point of the rom tune if you have to piggy back it with an emanage?
I made more whp with a stock sr and a to4b with stock ecu and AFC at 20 psi in 2002.
.... =
i had the emanage be4 the rom tune but thought it might be better than piggy backing but when i couldnt get it to work no matter what i did i went back to the piggyback and said fuck it and tuned on that...you seem to know ur shit if ur ever out in the new england area hit me up ill let you fuck around with my tune i have a mustang dyno 2 min down the street
AntiVtec
10-15-2007, 06:04 PM
well whats ur suggestion??? i asked for the money and i tried to make a paypal complaint but i waited to long after cuz i was trying to get it working this was also 6 months ago if not longer ...
That sucks. What i meant was that you dont seem too angry cus you dont really bad mouth this guy or tell people to stay away from his
[email protected] Im kinda an angry guy i dont think i could contain myself.:tweak:
nosajton
10-15-2007, 09:59 PM
[quote=steve shadows;1590127]what the fuck is the point of the rom tune if you have to piggy back it with an emanage?
I made more whp with a stock sr and a to4b with stock ecu and AFC at 20 psi in 2002.
.... =quote]
i had the emanage be4 the rom tune but thought it might be better than piggy backing but when i couldnt get it to work no matter what i did i went back to the piggyback and said fuck it and tuned on that...you seem to know ur shit if ur ever out in the new england area hit me up ill let you fuck around with my tune i have a mustang dyno 2 min down the street
Just like i told you before that tune was dyno tested, it has worked GREAT for a dozen people, something is fucked up with your setup! i am not here to argue, you are the only one bitching. everyone else is happy.
Josh K.
10-17-2007, 01:02 AM
I have to say Jason has been very responsive and helpful but I'm unsure what my next step should be as my tune is not anywhere near what I was hoping for.
setup:
s13 blacktop
deatschwerks 550cc
FP Big28
z32 Maf Blow though
1st tune. way lean, wouldn't come close to idling while cold.
2nd tune. a little better, still wouldn't idle when cold and was lean in the vacuum range.
3rd tune. idles when cold but at 19.5afr. when warm idles but stalls sometimes when coming to a stop. wot dips to 17:1 from -20inHg to 10psi then fatttens to 10.5:1 up to 25psi.
4th tune. cold idle 10.5afr and then everything from idle to 25psi 10.5, even cruising. 10.5 rock solid all the time with smoke coming out the exhuast.
Jason claims that he tuned a car for hours with #4 tune and my car must be messed up. checked fuel pressure and mine is perfect factory. car he tuned was 50psi base and mine was 35psi.
so I guess all other tunes i got where wrong and no other car should run with those tunes because they are waaaaaay too lean, if I ran 50psi base my car would foul the plugs and fill the oil pan with fuel.
I'm not bashing jason as he's been very helpful. just trying to understand the logic before i make my next move.
Rockogtr
10-17-2007, 05:40 AM
[quote=Rockogtr;1590308]
Just like i told you before that tune was dyno tested, it has worked GREAT for a dozen people, something is fucked up with your setup! i am not here to argue, you are the only one bitching. everyone else is happy.
theres a dozen people happy ??? where ??? ive seen 3 or 4 people on the forum and no1 can come up with #'s and ive seen 3 or 4 people say that you told them there set up is fucked up ..
gunluvS14
10-17-2007, 06:40 AM
cool, i'm glad i found this thread
anyone got this guys number? im having some issues with recieving my ecu. he decided to stop returning my emails also. i wanna give him a call hopefully i can catch him there. hopefully its not those wildfires causing him to be mia. thanks
importdude
11-26-2007, 09:01 PM
my experiances is=
when the question/pm.email is not about reciving shit just simple questions i get it with the quickness
when i am asking him to send chips//problems with tune
it takes 2-3 days
PLUS i see him on zil reading pms but no answers
:fawk:
im selling my emance tuned ecu
Josh K.
11-26-2007, 09:11 PM
I went with the Nistune realtime and I have more power at 15psi then I did at 25psi with the Emance tune. not sure why?
david200095367
12-18-2007, 03:55 AM
just spend the money and get one from scott or jwt.
and for those who dont know "scott" = "enthalpy"
racerjake
12-30-2007, 08:31 PM
I just recently put together my setup with a chip that Jason sold me.
91 S13
T25
480cc DW
N62
All I can say is WOW!! The car runs perfectly. Smooth idle and no flat spots. My only complaint is the stock clutch had no luck holding the torque! It feels like a freakin' V8!
SuicidnS13
01-18-2008, 07:31 PM
Any more updates on this company?
importdude
01-18-2008, 07:36 PM
EDITed 2-27-08
I WOULD LIEK TO CLEAR THINGS
First, I found the MOTOR BLEW BECUASE I DIDNT SWAP JUMPERS ON THE ECU
AND IT RAN STOCK MAP on 10PSI
Ill be Putting the Turbo back in a few weeks and ill be using JAsons Tune and ill Come back with the results
I Feel bad for that post, it was when i thought his tune sucked, but it was my mistake, not moving the Jumper. im gonna gave jason another honest try because the first time was my fualt
I Sent the ECU BACK to JASON AND HE MOved the Jumper for me and tESTED the ECU
for FREE!~
iitywygms
01-19-2008, 12:38 AM
I received mine a few weeks ago. Mind you I am running na with only a cam swap, intake and exhaust. Pretty simple setup. Anyway, I had no problems with communications. He replied within a day.
I installed the chip and I have to say I am very pleased. The car seems to run better. This is from the butt dyno but I really believe it pulls stronger.
Only issue was the soldering on the board. It was sloppy imo. I have alot of experience soldering so I know what is quality and what is not. I just cleaned it up. Other than that, I have no complaints.
kidswole
01-19-2008, 03:25 PM
I had that guy do an ecu for my sohc about a year ago when I first turbo'd it, It was good. I had a problem with the first ecu(injector drivers or something) he sent me another one, it worked perfect, then when I started to run higher boost, I just decided it would be easier to piggy back off of his tune with emanage-ultimate, then to tune from scratch that way I could adjust for any boost I wanted to run rather than be stuck to a pretune all the time. i dont have any complaints, I think it's worth the money especially when you are trying to piece somethin together for a SOHC, I also called enthalpy and JWT both said they dont tune for sohc, I atleast give this guy props for trying to do something for a very unpopular motor!
david200095367
01-19-2008, 11:36 PM
I had that guy do an ecu for my sohc about a year ago when I first turbo'd it, It was good. I had a problem with the first ecu(injector drivers or something) he sent me another one, it worked perfect, then when I started to run higher boost, I just decided it would be easier to piggy back off of his tune with emanage-ultimate, then to tune from scratch that way I could adjust for any boost I wanted to run rather than be stuck to a pretune all the time. i dont have any complaints, I think it's worth the money especially when you are trying to piece somethin together for a SOHC, I also called enthalpy and JWT both said they dont tune for sohc, I atleast give this guy props for trying to do something for a very unpopular motor!
and how exactly did you call enthalpy. scott does not even give out his number. sounds like :bs:
Josh K.
01-20-2008, 12:31 PM
I just looked at the last 2 bins he sent me. knowing I was running over 25psi he kept the timing 9-11deg on the 3rd tune, then he sends me another tune that runs waaaay richer with timing around 16-19deg.
If I ran that much timing my car would have blown to pieces, luckily it was too rich. :wtf:
smelly240
01-20-2008, 12:39 PM
hmm - i ran blowthrough before - and i remember it being MUCH touchier to tune than drawthrough. but he shouldnt be giving you shit thats that drastically different for a car like that (and running 25psi on a fp28 is a bit much for that lil fella ;) )
Josh K.
01-20-2008, 01:03 PM
yeah, I run 18psi now.
Blow through is definitely a pain in the ass. I think having a catch can would really help keep the tune solid. It runs good but once it gets a little oil on the filament it starts to run richer.
SuicidnS13
01-20-2008, 07:41 PM
yeah, I run 18psi now.
Blow through is definitely a pain in the ass. I think having a catch can would really help keep the tune solid. It runs good but once it gets a little oil on the filament it starts to run richer.
So how is your car actually running with his tune? Have you tried running the maf regularly? Or switching the maf out?
Josh K.
01-20-2008, 08:23 PM
So how is your car actually running with his tune? Have you tried running the maf regularly? Or switching the maf out?
Yes I've tried everything with all 4 tunes he sent. base tune PLMS sent with my nistune ran like a top, just had to tweak slightly. read all my posts in this thread and you'll see my whole experience.
Hanna Hadawar
01-21-2008, 10:10 AM
....So is this guy around or is he mia?
I want to shed a little light on rom tuning. There is a chip yes, there are values that effect fuel yes, values that effect ign, some mangled formulas that call for the correct values and other toys that you can see when you take a look at any rom in a map editing program.
A tune from a reputable tuner will work for that same setup over and over again with very slight if any differences, and if there are differences or issues, it is in the car itself. It is only logical, If the tune is the same, if the setup is the same and it works in 20 other cars but not the other...its the car.
The expensive part of learning rom tuning is actually being the one to go behind what you see in the editing software, disassembling, reverse engineering the ECU understanding how the code works and how it works with the ECU itsself and this is what gives you the ability use every value and every string of code to your advantage. Im sure both JWT, and Enthalpy have gone behind the scenes and into the coding of most of there ROM's to find more effective ways and more efficient strategies of ROM tuning, as I have myself.
This is time consuming, tools are expensive, there is more informtion and variations of code than you could ever want. If you are doing R32's R33's CA's which have no availale data acquisition as well as SR's and KA-T's....your library of documentation and time spent understanding the code becomes almost overwhelming.
So in short, anyone can burn a chip, change some fuel values, ign values, log data, click z32, q45, n60, and give you something that will make the car work and for the most part work well since remember, that rom was designed for that car from the start its only a matter of a few tweeks or a simple look at someone elses hard work before you have a decent ROM.
I cant speek for everyone who rom tunes but some of the more expensive tuners, as known from speeking with them, are really tweaking the shit out of the code and using EVERY bit of information to develop better tunes and offer tunes for a wider range of vehicles. What you want in a rom tuner is someone who actually knows about coding, who is offering something that EVERYONE else isnt offering, and who communicates well. Those are the rom tuners who are doing things properly and (speakng for the honest ones) their prices reflect their time spent.
Most of them you will never hear from, but they are there and they are constantly working.
boiracerxx
01-22-2008, 08:43 PM
I have a JWT tune that runs super rich at boost and max lean at idle. The only reason why my car manages to idle is because of my SAFC2. Check your setup! I thought my tune was messed up, untill I found a small air leak and a bad injector resistor pack. When it comes down to it, the best tune is done on a Dyno. I managed to make 414 WHP on this tune with a misfire. I could of leaned it out more. I also have the E-mance tune that's laying around. I was going to use this on the s13 I never bought. I just ordered the s14-s13 harness and will have it dynoed as soon as the harness comes in. The only reason why i'm switching to an E-mance s13 ecu is because I want to have my car dynoed tune. JWT is too far of a drive and I'm sure someone on the East Coast is capable of tuning this for me on a dyno. Anyways, I should be having a dyno chart of his tune in a month since eveyone is so curious about his tune. I am too. I need about 3 weeks for the harness to get made and mailed to me.
smelly240
01-23-2008, 04:24 AM
<3 my little hadawar...
Hanna = Loveslave...
postit4fun
02-22-2008, 01:32 AM
deleted because nothing else to say
stinky_180
02-22-2008, 02:07 PM
^your post would be more worthy if you had the auction sellers name. but if its e-mance, i have bought from them before and i am completely satisfied. i didn't buy a tune, but i did purchase a consult cable.
if you READ the auction, especially where it says s13 vtc, why did you purchase it?
steve shadows
02-22-2008, 03:09 PM
Why is the auctioner full of horeshit?
and a scammer, it's still the better question
PS. For anyone using an AFC to get their rom tune to idle, that is something you need to work out with your rom tuner (jwt etc) throw the AFC in the trash all it will do is break things and skew your timing map.
postit4fun
02-22-2008, 03:53 PM
test test tes test test
smelly240
02-22-2008, 04:27 PM
his boards and consult stuff is all just DIY stuff calum posted years ago - just he assembles shit and sends it out. ATX plugs have been used with consult boards for longer than you've had a drivers license. I personally Hardwired that shit because it doesnt leave the car.
the ka ecu thing tho is gay - a KA ecu doesnt work in a sr... period
importdude
02-27-2008, 08:17 PM
I WOULD LIEK TO CLEAR THINGS
First, I found the MOTOR BLEW BECUASE I DIDNT SWAP JUMPERS ON THE ECU
AND IT RAN STOCK MAP on 10PSI
Ill be Putting the Turbo back in a few weeks and ill be using JAsons Tune and ill Come back with the results
I Feel bad for that post, it was when i thought his tune sucked, but it was my mistake, not moving the Jumper. im gonna gave jason another honest try because the first time was my fualt
I Sent the ECU BACK to JASON AND HE MOved the Jumper for me and tESTED the ECU
for FREE!~
timtiminy
02-29-2008, 04:47 PM
interested to see how everything works out for you importdude, thanks for posting back on here and letting everyone know that it wasnt the tune, most people wouldnt bother. I am looking to get an Emance tune for my SR, and since i am a socal local so Jason even said that if i wanted we could meet up at a dyno and do some fine tuning, I think this is a big plus. On alot of other forums all i hear is praise with the emance tunes and everyone always acknowledges Jason's great service and help. I think the only people who have said negative things are people on here, and at that alot of people who dont even have one of his tunes. hopefully Emance can get some good cred here on zilvia, like on the other forums.
importdude
03-08-2008, 12:17 AM
interested to see how everything works out for you importdude, thanks for posting back on here and letting everyone know that it wasnt the tune, most people wouldnt bother. I am looking to get an Emance tune for my SR, and since i am a socal local so Jason even said that if i wanted we could meet up at a dyno and do some fine tuning, I think this is a big plus. On alot of other forums all i hear is praise with the emance tunes and everyone always acknowledges Jason's great service and help. I think the only people who have said negative things are people on here, and at that alot of people who dont even have one of his tunes. hopefully Emance can get some good cred here on zilvia, like on the other forums.
turbo goes in this coming week
kylaris
03-08-2008, 12:28 AM
I WOULD LIEK TO CLEAR THINGS[/B]
First, I found the MOTOR BLEW BECUASE I DIDNT SWAP JUMPERS ON THE ECU[/SIZE]
AND IT RAN STOCK MAP on 10PSI
Which jumper? you have switch a jumper on ecu after installing the chip?
cotbu
03-08-2008, 02:12 AM
Jumper CJ1 TO CJ2
timtiminy
03-08-2008, 10:30 AM
Is switching the jumper a must on every Emance board install? How is this done? Can anyone post some pics and describe the procedure?
cotbu
03-08-2008, 11:50 AM
Yes, but you should search moving jumper CJ1 TO CJ2 to better understand, daughter board installs
kylaris
03-09-2008, 07:00 PM
I searched for it and was told that it's on back side top left or something like that.
is that right? if you have a picture, please post it.
smelly240
03-09-2008, 07:10 PM
its the one labeled cj1 and the other is cj2 - they're right by each other.
you have to move the surface mount jumper over... or just take it off the one and solder a lil peice of wire across the other.
they are on the bottom.
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