240sx, rx7, supra

[jarnld]

if you had the choice between a 93 or newer rx7, supra or 240sx which would you take?  assume street racing in a straight line.

[S13FREEAAK]

I would personally pick the rx7 because I love them. But it all depends on how much money you have to spend. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[KiDyNomiTe]

For straight line, fastest for the least would prolly be Supra, with the RX-7 not too far behind, and the 240 bringin up the rear, but (since you only want straight line disregard all the following info, juss some thoughts) I would rather cross the finish line in a nice RX-7 or F/b 240, instead of a bulky Supra. So in looks I would say RX-7, followed by 240, then Supra. Now for twisties, it would prolly be same as loooks for me (RX-7, 240, Supra). Cheapest to maintain would be 240, followed by Supra, then RX-7. Hardest to build up 240, RX-7(Considering you know about rotaries), Supra (damn BPU whores).

In the order I will ever own 240, RX-7, Supra (I will never own one).

Go to a Supra Forum you will be told get the Supra even if you have to live out of it

Go to an RX-7 Forum you will be told get the RX-7, or if you decide to get a 240 get a Sylvia engine swap (Yes i meant to put a 'y' don't ask me but they like to spell it that way).

Come here, most likely they will say RX-7 is best, nobody likes Supras <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[porkchop]

now if ur talking about the last gen supra....theres no competition.....my friend has a 94 supra tt, and let me tell you the style of the interior alone is enough...let alone when he tromps on it..
But if ur talking about the 86.5 style supra, then ya an rx-7...i had an 87 supra...it's like driving a tank, &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> ..but the power was there &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

240s are nice, but come on guys...in order to compete with the rx-7 and supra, we're gunna have to turn it into a 300zx..
i don't think we should be comparing cars which aren't in the same class... BUT don't get me wrong i love my lil 240...and it does look almost as good too &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>

i wonder if a 300zx tt engine can fit into a 240??...or even the n/a 3.0l ...anyone hear of that happening??

[KiDyNomiTe]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (porkchop @ Aug. 09 2002,01:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i wonder if a 300zx tt engine can fit into a 240??...or even the n/a 3.0l ...anyone hear of that happening??</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
At least u didnt make a new thread about this, or else I would of juss told u use the search, but the guys over at Unstable-Hybrids did a Z31 (VG30ET I think)engine swap, not sure how it came out, but it was doen (I think). The VG30DETT wont fit without lots of modification, juss like puttin an RB26DETT, sorta, but it will cost a lot.

[240 2NR]

Yeah, the 7. &nbsp;Few cars have ever looked that perfect, esp. in silver. &nbsp;That was the car I was going to have, until I realized how important the previous owner was to buying one. &nbsp;They have to know as much about rotaries as you do, and usually they barely knew the basics, leaving you to deal with a blown motor thanks to their lack of care. &nbsp;In anycase, if you have a lot of money on the side, there's nothing better than the 7 for the price ($15k for a nice one). &nbsp;The supra is cool but very big. &nbsp;For a fun, nimble, reliable, and cheap alternative, the 240 fits the bill, but it's no drag racer. &nbsp;CHEAP drag cars wear three diamonds or carry a big block.

[aqwkmf]

FD3 RX-7
TTSupra tied with TTZ32
240SX

[rotaryknight]

It really depends how much money you have.

Supra TT your looking at about $24k+ for a clean 94+ and even more for a 97+. &nbsp;Supras still have a high resale value.

Rx-7 FD3S you can find 93 for about 9-10K though I would recommend staying away from them. &nbsp;A 94 will run about 14-17k and a 95 which are RARE will still run you in the low 20ks.

Now you also have to have the money for the car and at least 5-6k on the side to actually afford the car. &nbsp;Most used FD WILL need a rebuild and there alot of other stuff that will be need to be replaced for "reliable" driving. &nbsp;

FD3S have a 3 mod rule.....intake, exhaust and Down Pipe and that's it. &nbsp;After that you well have to buy fuel management before you can do anything else. &nbsp;Either a ECU or a standalone....the stock ecu cannot compensate for more air on its fuel maps and you will run lean.

Now the 240sx is cheap to buy and cheap to mod. &nbsp;You can get in to the car easy and insurance is cheap. &nbsp;Parts compared to an FD or Supra are cheap. &nbsp;The motor is strong and not as tempermental. &nbsp;You CAN make it as fast as most Supras and FDs on the street...though that takes more money than the car is worth.

All of the cars have potential though the 240sx has to start a bit farther back due to its lack of stock power....But you also have to look at what you want.....no matter what you do to a car it is what it is....you mod a Supra when you pull up to a restraunt it's still a Supra...you mod a 240 well it's still a 240.

[Frappe]

FD RX-7, depends on the wear on it, the mileage, general conditon, and most of all if I had the money to keep it running.

240SX - S14a, second choice to the FD, but so much cheaper to maintain and keep, and they last so much longer. If I didn't have gobs of cash to spend on the RX-7, then this would be an easy first choice.

Supra - no thanks. I don't really like the look, bulky...and yeah they're fast but if they can't handle like the FD or the 240SX, what's the fun? As far as maintenance and engine life span, I don't have any idea about the supras.

-Frappe

[Tyler Durdan]

Supra w/out the spoiler. &nbsp;I think they look a hell of a lot better with no spoiler on them...just my opinion.

RX7 would be nice, but the realiabilty of them comes in to play. &nbsp;Especially when you have a turbo pushing on the engine.

240, love mine, but probably would give it up for a tt supra. &nbsp;A friend of mine has a n/a 96, and the interior of this damn car is amazing. &nbsp;It is all driver oriented. &nbsp;She just put on the Tanabe medallion exhaust, and it's real deep and smooth.

My preference in order....97 ttsupra, my 97 240, then the rx7 bringing up the rear.

[drift into a curb]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KiDyNomiTe @ Aug. 09 2002,01:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hardest to build up 240, RX-7(Considering you know about rotaries), Supra (damn BPU whores).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
240sx hardest to build up? No, I think the rx7s are.. ask any of the owners. People with FDs usually have major problems with their car and even they know a considerable amount about rotaries.

I'd go with a rx7(If I had money to maintain the sucker), Supra(6-speed getrag), then a 240(I'd still keep my 240 after I get one of the above <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> ).

[KiDyNomiTe]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (drift into a curb @ Aug. 09 2002,12:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KiDyNomiTe @ Aug. 09 2002,01:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hardest to build up 240, RX-7(Considering you know about rotaries), Supra (damn BPU whores).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
240sx hardest to build up? No, I think the rx7s are.. ask any of the owners. People with FDs usually have major problems with their car and even they know a considerable amount about rotaries.

I'd go with a rx7(If I had money to maintain the sucker), Supra(6-speed getrag), then a 240(I'd still keep my 240 after I get one of the above <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> ).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I am talking more about high HP, you can get an RX7 to 600HP w/o too much trouble but 240s would be harder to get up there. Getting to the 300-400HP range is sumwat wasy for 240s, really easy for Supras, and easy for RX-7s

[240 2NR]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (rotaryknight @ Aug. 09 2002,10:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">FD3S have a 3 mod rule.....intake, exhaust and Down Pipe and that's it. After that you well have to buy fuel management before you can do anything else. Either a ECU or a standalone....the stock ecu cannot compensate for more air on its fuel maps and you will run lean.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I'd say FD's have more of a one mod rule in terms of air flow changes. &nbsp;Anymore than one mod and it's time to retune the ECU. &nbsp;Problem being that with any air flow restriction you remove, the secondary turbo is able to momentarily spike the boost and create a lean burn condition. &nbsp;Ever look at a poorly tuned FD and see a nice smooth power curve and a 25hp spike. &nbsp;That's a big part of what kills a tuned FD.

Otherwise, just the intake, midpipe (replaces the close coupled, secondary cat), exhaust and ECU is good for 300rwhp, up from 255 at the flywheel. &nbsp;Not bad for under $2k.

[Jim96SC2]

I dunno guys. A Supra TT weighs somewhere around 3300 with the average sized driver. 240's and RX's weight about the same at 2850. My opinion, it's all about power to weight. Supra can get 600, but they need it.

For the money, get a 240 and put an SR in it. With only standard intake and exhaust mods your running fair with some newer camaro V8's. Drop some weight and add some power and your running mid-high 12's (300RWHP).

But then again, I'm kinda biased.

[blink0r]

The FD rx-7 will beat the supra and 240sx in both the straight line and road coarse (assuming they're all bone stock).

[MikeFD3S]

nah, supra owns straight line. &nbsp;But rx7 0wns on road courses.

[808Supra]

well ive owned a Supra and a 240 so i guess i can chime in <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Supra is so easy to make power its nuts. &nbsp;I slapped on a DP, Exhaust, intake, and boost up and was cookin. &nbsp;Never lost a race. &nbsp;The Supra will also last for a while. &nbsp;The engine is ALMOST bullet proof up untill about 600rwhp ish.

RX7 is a bad ass car because you can beat a lot of people even if you down by a few hundred hp. &nbsp;Ive seen 400hp 7s take out 550hp Supras like it was no big deal. &nbsp;They are also great in the turns. &nbsp;Only problem is the motor...it just dosnt seem to wanna stay un broken for to long. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'>

I love my 240 though. &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[Jim96SC2]

Just to let whoever wants info to know, look at this months Car and Driver. The 10,000HP Shootout. While most other cars were having 600-800HP with ~3500lbs there was a car that was 425HP but with ~2400lbs and it kept up with cars with 200-300HP more then it. Thats why RX's and 240's rule so much. Curb weight can go down to next to nothing. Power is plenty on tap. Put yourself and the car on a diet and your ready to go.

Happy Motoring.

[MorganS13]

i'd say supra, rx7, then 240...

i know about 4 or 5 supra guys and i've always been in love with them. &nbsp;one guy has a 1000+hp total "sleeper". &nbsp;only visible mods are the 4 inch exhaust tip, lowered suspension and front lip spoiler, its just insane. &nbsp;we joke bout how he only races bikes on the highway simply because nothing else around here can keep up. &nbsp;plus the guy is cool as hell, he is the total opposite of the "supra owners = cocky bastards" myth.

i know about 7 or 8 rx-7 guys and those cars are beautiful and just nice cars. &nbsp;only thing keeping them from #1 is all the damn maintenance. &nbsp;its a rare occurence for all the rx-7 guys to have their cars running right at the same time.

theres only a handful of 240 guys around here that i know of... &nbsp;they're either like my car (simple bolt-ons) to fully built CA18s and KA-Ts. &nbsp;

my .02 &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[JEdubz]

what a stupid thread, stupid question to begin with... since basicall the only things the cars have in common is that they are popular, japanese, and rwd why didnt you say 300zx, 3000gt, s2k, nsx etc.... personally in my oppinion if you stuck the 3 infront of my face you would be a moron to walk to the 240 just becasue of resale value alone.... this thread should be locked... it should have been a poll to begin with so i would have known to skip it.

[whateverjames]

i agree. but i ask you folks, which car should i get? the Lamborghini, the Ferrari? or the 93 Camaro Z28 automatic?