what's the performance/analysis of wide wheel fitments?

[nismostyle240]

Im just curious for wheels sizes 18x10f 18x11r or 18x12r sets. How are those for daily driving and the most likely i may get in the future 18x9 or 18x9.5 front with a 18x10 in the rear or all equal at x9 or x9.5 for front and rear.

What are the handling differences,ride quaily, and performance in terms of motorsports auto-x,road course,drag, and for others that maybe curious "drift"
the pros and cons with those wheels sizes.

my bad if this was in a search topic i should have checked. I'im curious that some people have wide tires in the front and back. I just want to know if its just for show or if there any benefits.

Thanks

[OptionZero]

my bad if this was in a search topic i should have checked.

Thanks

Got a chalk board? Write that 100 times.


Try googling "staggered wheels"

[chmercer]

the pros is you can roll up on corvettes and be like hows that 275 treating you? i got a 295

the cons is 16 year olds will come up to you at car meets and say shit like "I COULD COOK A PIZZA IN THAT DIZZLE"

[McRussellPants]

I pop boners to skid pad numbers.


1G? Jerk it off like thisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssss

['90RPS13]

Dude, should you even be touching a car? Basic rule of thumb:

Wider the tire, the more traction.

The real question is, can you afford the tires to put on the rims?

[drftwerks]

we do it for two real reasons actually

and none of that performance, and times bullshit

its for

1 so where ever we roll, dudes will hella jock the car, and be all over our nutsacks

and


2 so chicks think the car is broken with wheels to big, with stupid camber, and fucked up fender pull, and tires that are about to come off the rim.


cmon, i thought that was common knowledge already

[SNC240SX]

I think for grip you can have bigger all around but any bigger then 9 in the front seems like a bad idea to me. But for the rears the skys the limit.

[Rayne]

Dude, should you even be touching a car? Basic rule of thumb:

Wider the tire, the more traction.

All four forners extremely wide would = grip racing.

Staggered = drifting.

The real question is, can you afford the tires to put on the rims?

Staggered set ups can be used for drag racing also. Typically speaking the drive wheels are usually larger.

[420sx]

lol you dont need to stagger to drift.

what you need to drift is to know how to break off the traction and go into a drift. clutch kicking shift lock etc.
u can run same size wheel all around example 9 inch wheel. tire either 235 or 215 profile all around. wide wheel=good. stretching the tire is helful in drift. it makes the car feel firm and not sloppy

[240trainee]

Staggered tires can be used for "grip racing" too

Unless Porches are setup to slide, that would be news to me.

It's all about finding the desired balance of the car, be it tire size, suspension setup, weight, etc. all working together to get the balance your looking for.

[chmercer]

Staggered tires can be used for "grip racing" too

Unless Porches are setup to slide, that would be news to me.

It's all about finding the desired balance of the car, be it tire size, suspension setup, weight, etc. all working together to get the balance your looking for.

dude porches have a large rear tire because the engine is on the rear axle. lol. completely irrelevant.

[240trainee]

It is relevant, staggered setups were being labeled as "drift" setups, which is completely untrue. Porsches do have a huge rear tire to help make up for the engine, but the fact applies, its to find a handling balance.

Many, many other sports cars and the like run staggard setups.

It's just stupid to label tire setups simply by "drift style" and "grip style", just like it's stupid to label wheels as RWD and FWD offset, though I am guilty of that myself often.

[chmercer]

people run staggered wheels on 240s because the used wheel sets come in staggered. nobody actually sets these cars up to drive good. oh also that thing about dudes sweating your car and chicks thinking its a pile of crap.

[phreze]

Don't we just run staggered because we can't fit the biggest wheel all around? Well we could but steering would be out of the question.

[240trainee]

people run staggered wheels on 240s because the used wheel sets come in staggered.


True that:-/

[projectRDM]

people run staggered wheels on 240s because the used wheel sets come in staggered. nobody actually sets these cars up to drive good. oh also that thing about dudes sweating your car and chicks thinking its a pile of crap.

Exactly. 99% of people who stagger wheels on a 240 do so because they have no fucking clue about proper wheel/tire fitment and have no plans to actually track the car, they just found them cheap and convinced their parents to buy them as an early birthday present.

For a 'drift' setup, whatever the fuck that means, you'd want a completely different type/width of tire than if you were drag racing, same goes for road racing as well. The basic theory behind a wider wheel is simple, more traction, but the type of tire, suspension, and driving style all have a major factor in that as well. As stated above, most of the buyers do it solely for the looks and nothing else.

[axiomatik]

Dude, should you even be touching a car? Basic rule of thumb:

Wider the tire, the more traction.

Wrong.

There is WAY more to traction than just the width of the tire (tire pressure, design of tread blocks, age of tire (tires that are more worn down are stiffer than new tires), suspension geometry, roll stiffness and weight transfer, shape of contact patch, weight distribution, etc). People also think that they get a larger contact patch with a wider tire. That is wrong as well. The size of the contact patch is equal to the weight carried by that wheel, divided by the pressure in your tire. Wider tires only change the shape of the contact patch, not the size.

99% of the people on zilvia that run staggered fitment do so either because they mistakenly think they will have better traction, because they bought used wheels, or because they are doing it for looks. You can fit a bigger/wider wheel in back, and it looks cool.

Also, corvettes, vipers etc. run substantially wider tires in the rear than front. You do not need to have a rear-engine car to need wider tires in the rear. But the measurements and calculations required to optimise grip analytically are beyond the reach of lay people. Best bet is some track time and some trial and error.

[nismostyle240]

my bad for not searching.I think some common sense got in the way of what i meant to ask so it came out wrong. I was just surprised how some people get wide wheels front and rear and how that is for them from a performance and personal analysis standpoint through their ownership.Im just coming to the logical conculsion understeer with a huge difference in staggered fittment or wheel tire arrangement, i could be wrong.

[JSpecBnr32]

basicaly it all breaks down to Looks

[DJ_Sunrise]

nbridley for the win :) good looks. :)

-Bart