240s are Ricers

[KiDyNomiTe]

Click here (http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=190305&make_type_query=make%3DChevrolet&model_brand_query=model%3DCamaro&tree=Chevrolet%20Camaro)

Then roll down a little bit, there is 240 with not that big of a wing that is rice, sure its unnecessary but it's one of the lowest wings I have seen. I think it looks kinda nice and not rice. Funny thing is the people on his guestbook are all badmouthing him, at least on of the persons knew about 240s:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I just wanted to point out the fact that you said the aluminum wing on the back of the Nissan Silvia performed no function, when in actuality the Silvia is a rear wheel drive car. I should know, i drive the american version...the 240sx, with handling that would blow any american made car off of the road. How much time did you waste building this site...do you have a life???</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

[DrDubbleB]

Nevermind...got it to work...ehh...the wing isn't THAT small, but it's not that big either...It looks ok. I like the one on Non Fujitas car the best, that and GT-R wings look excellent!!!


A quote from that same guy about the below image:

"Now this is a car... a 4x4 Corvette... its sweet isnt it?"
http://images.cardomain.com/installs/190000-190999/190305_12_full.jpg

Don't believe me? &nbsp;Go Here (http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=190305&page=3)

[SilviaDriver]

my goodness that site is horrible..no im not talkin about the hondas n stuff inthere..talkin about the guy in general..that vette 4x4 HAHAH..no dats gay

wow..10 F bodies doing burnouts!!! dats so kool..no not really..its juss dumb..y waste ur tires like dat?..the guys juss closed minded..stupid if i have to say

[benjamminm3]

and you guys don't think you are wasting tires with all the drifting you do?

[BlackFox]

I don't think they realize that our cars are RWD

Oh well, I don't like these anit-car people <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

[SilviaDriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (benjamminm3 @ Aug. 02 2002,03:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and you guys don't think you are wasting tires with all the drifting you do?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
well..i dont drift so yea..but drifting is a type of racing ppl do..burnouts is not

[MasterOFDrift]

That guy cracks me up he is talking about all the rice out there and about how they suck, but if you lookat his cars a very old cutlass and camaro (i think). They are trash I would prefer that 240 any day over his scrap crap

[240meowth]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (benjamminm3 @ Aug. 02 2002,01:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and you guys don't think you are wasting tires with all the drifting you do?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
drifting requires skills, and practice, and often times it is quite fun. &nbsp;while burning out requires no skills, no practice, and often times you have to sniff up the rubber fumes, since ur just sittin' there. &nbsp;and rubber fumes into the brain creats domestic brain cells such as the solid rear suspension.

[SR20Fastback]

I hate the world &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

[HippoSleek]

I didn't get past the second page to see f-body burnouts, but that stuff was cracking me up. &nbsp;I love when short-sighted enthusiasts attack!

[sykikchimp]

That faggots jealous cause he's poor white trash, and can't afford to mod his shitty ass car so that it'll break 17's..

Just the a-typical moron redneck that happens to have an internet connection....

That wing on the 240 is pretty gay.. &nbsp;I'd make fun of it if I saw it in person.

[boosteds14]

those american car enthusiast havent changed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

o well, there always going to have an one-way mind about imports.

[AKADriver]

The funniest thing I saw with a quick glance was his comment about the wing on the white Civic hatch on the first page...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://images.cardomain.com/installs/190000-190999/190305_4_full.jpg
damn that is one bad ass wing! Too bad that the shape and placement of the wing porbably will hurt the car instead of helping it!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

That wing is exactly of the right design to reduce drag for a 2-box hatchback. &nbsp;What a maroon.

Of course he's also the typical idiot that thinks a front drive car can't make use of downforce on the rear. &nbsp;The wings on FWD BTCC/JGTC/Supertouring cars aren't for show <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> &nbsp;But he'd probably say they are since those cars aren't as fast as NASCAR...

Not that the ricer wings are for ANYTHING but show/appearance.

[SR20Fastback]

I really wanted to reply to say that it is very feasable to buy an inmport and make it quick for a decent amount of money. I hate how they say, you had to put at least 100 grand before its as fast as a damn firebird.

[uuninja]

"FWD cars can't make use of rear down force"
"American cars can't handle for shit"

Conjecture is stupid in every form. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'> See it for what it is move on. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[Kreator]

Ok so a wing on a 240 is ghey, but on a mustang it's ok?
http://images.cardomain.com/installs/190000-190999/190305_23_full.jpg

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is cobra_r's ride. A 2000 mustang cobra R. yea ok, im not a mustang fan, but i must admitt, this car is BADASS! i have ridden in one before and they really do kick ass. and for all of you morons out there sayin that his car is domestic rice, NO IT ISN'T!!! every thing on this car is completely functional! the spoiler has to be that giganic to hold the wheels to the ground when doin 100 at a turn! well anyway go check out his site, his ride is pretty phat!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Blah
this kid is ghey. He prolly knows less about cars than i do, yet he will be constantly bragging about how fast it is. Stoopit domestic people

Anyways. The way i see it.... if you have to flame someone, means you are jealous of them. In other words, he is jealous that he got no money on a descent import so he has to drive his pos american camaro....

again a quote on his car:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Make: Chevrolet
Model: Camaro
Year: 1988
Car Setup: stock
Sound System Setup: stock </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
it's stock... it's fallin apart.... it pobably is already slower than my car (the 88s tend to run low 15s stock i think).... bah. people who talk about rice w/o knowing jack about cars are even worse than ricers &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/whatsthat.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':whatthe:'>

[Kreator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There is nothing like the sounds/feeling of a monster V8 reving at 8000 RPM's next to you!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

8000 rpm on an american v8<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> yeah right.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

edit: lol... go to page 4.... a camaro for $50 muhahahahahahah.... it prolly doesn't have an engine.... 0-60 in 5.5 minutes with a help of a tow truck??

[technochronic]

I overheard my dad say this the other day:

Camaro's and 'Stangs are like assholes-

1) &nbsp;Everyone has one, and,
2) &nbsp;None thinks that theirs stinks

[technochronic]

I overheard my dad say this the other day:

Camaro's and 'Stangs are like assholes-

1) Everyone has one, and,
2) No one thinks that theirs stink.

[whateverjames]

technically, the guy never said the wing was non functional on the silvia, the 240SX guy assumed that. i agree that it doesn't look good. i have never seen an alluminum wing that looks good. whether they are functional or not.

[SilviaDriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ Aug. 02 2002,11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is cobra_r's ride. A 2000 mustang cobra R. yea ok, im not a mustang fan, but i must admitt, this car is BADASS! i have ridden in one before and they really do kick ass. and for all of you morons out there sayin that his car is domestic rice, NO IT ISN'T!!! every thing on this car is completely functional! the spoiler has to be that giganic to hold the wheels to the ground when doin 100 at a turn! well anyway go check out his site, his ride is pretty phat!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
wait..who does a 100 on a turn?

[Frappe]

Oval Racers do... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

-Frappe

[benjamminm3]

what's wrong with taking a turn at 100? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> for those of you who know palos verdes in the south bay i came tearing down hawthorne at 120 in some parts......between silverspur and rolling hills road.....

[SprungScorp]

From a guestbook entry on his site:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i agree with big stud...put that peice of $hit rice boy in his place. he would probably take it as a compliment b/c he's to dumb to know when he's being laughed at. i think i'll leave some of my favorite mottos for your reading pleasure:

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU RUN 10 SECOND 1/4 MILES...AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU STILL DRIVE A CIVIC!!!

SPEED KILLS...DRIVE AN IMPORT!!!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> WTF is his point? Sure I'll still be a Civic, but at the end of the day you'll be SMOKED by a damn CIVIC. Who has it worse? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

(BTW I don't drive a Civic) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[KoukiS14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AKADriver @ Aug. 02 2002,09:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The wings on FWD BTCC/JGTC/Supertouring cars aren't for show <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'> </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually. . I read that modern touring wings ARE just for appearance. &nbsp;I know how it sounds, but thanks to new aerodynamic designs, the design of a modern touring car doesn't require the downforce that would be created by a wing like that. &nbsp;The actually put them on there because people expect to see them on a touring car. &nbsp;

I got this information from UK publication TopGear... &nbsp;April 2002, page 19... Showing a Vauxhall Astra touring car...


"Aerodynamics: &nbsp;In the super-touring days, the cars generated huge downforce. &nbsp;To make these cars more reliant on mechanicals - not costly aerodynamic adjustments - there is now no significant downforce. &nbsp;The massive rear wing is more for looks than aerodynamic effect. &nbsp;Still, the team still spends a lot of time and money wind-tunnel testing to overcome the drag of the wider track and create the smoothest airflow.

[DSC]

I would like to think that most of us at zilvia know more about cars than this guy. So I really don't car what he thinks about the 240. That wing IS ugly and most likely serves no purpose at all.

"Here is a pick of that Honda from the rear. Notice the giant wing and dual exausht pipes! Thats right two of them! A great way to loose back pressure in a 4banger and actaully making it slower!"
Back pressure makes you slower jackass...you make the pipes too big you don't worry about losing back pressure, you worry about loosing air speed. Back pressure = bad.

Yes, we are getting "hated on" by some who drives these two lovely machines
http://images.cardomain.com/installs/190000-190999/190305_41_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/installs/190000-190999/190305_43_full.jpg

"My other car: 1988 Camaro... this one i got for 50 bucks... so talk smack about this one and see what i say... b/c i dont give a shit. it was only 50 bucks... what can u say?"

"My Car: (sold) 1980 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme... i got it for 500 bcuks! talk smack about it and see what i say! considering my mommy and daddy dont buy me new hondas and new mustangs... im just glad i got some wheels! in other I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT IT! ITS WAS FIVE HUNDRAD DOLLERS! HAHAHA"

So this is some poor ass dude who can't afford to drive an import then? I'm not into the whole import vs domestic thing, and I generally lack respect for those who have blind hatred for one or the other...but this guy wins for the absolute dumbest anti-import domestic lover ever.

I won't even go through and point out all his spelling errors. &nbsp;Its fine to misspell stuff in chat or on a message board, but to misspell stuff on your website is just low.

[nrcooled]

It's jackasses like him that make me love smoking domestics sooooo much. &nbsp;Some idiot in a brand new GT convertable (girlfriend in the passenger seat) revving his engine at me....can we say 0wN3d. &nbsp;I don't run around looking for that stuff but when a domestic lover needs to be put in his place and realize his mispent 27k just got lit by a four banger is worth the price of admission <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

[Archangel]

I argee with the general sentiment, the guys just a close minded idiot. &nbsp;I apologize on behalf of the greater cincinati area for him.

BTW, &nbsp;I gotta stick up for the s14 with the aluminum wing. &nbsp;I don't know him personally, I but my friend knows him, and I have seen is car. I don't like big wings, but in his defense, he has a full s15 front end conversion with an sr20det swapped in, and a huge front mount intercooler. &nbsp;I garuntee he could beat that guy at the drag strip.