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s13pignose
03-22-2007, 05:41 PM
By now it's common knowledge that there's not much to say about zenki headlights, s14 ofcourse. Just wondering if there's anything new coming out I might should know about.

I doubt it, but was just wondering. Not talking about something with halo lights either, but more like the german glass final K, without the hefty price tag or having to take apart and put back together.

Thanks

OptionZero
03-22-2007, 06:01 PM
So basically you want german glass headlights or final konnexion headlights but you can't afford either?

vanish1
03-22-2007, 06:06 PM
http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90180

kdashy
03-22-2007, 06:16 PM
So something without the price of replacing your headlights, and without the effort of opening them up...

Somethings gotta give.

Atljunglist
03-22-2007, 06:25 PM
If you wanna go with a cheaper price then you are gonna have to crack those babys open. If you dont want to crack them open then you are gonna have to pay the money. Like the last poster said something has to give. My Zenki has BMW X5 Projector HID's mounted in the stock housings. Thats cheaper than replacing them with a more costly unit, but your gonna have to put some time in.
This is what they look like.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c268/Boosted240/37854023-b125-02000155-.jpg

vanish1
03-22-2007, 06:30 PM
^haha, you put HID projectors into a fluted plastic lense.

way to basically ruin the gorgeous HID cutoff

usdm180sx
03-22-2007, 06:37 PM
By now it's common knowledge that there's not much to say about zenki headlights, s14 ofcourse. Just wondering if there's anything new coming out I might should know about.

I doubt it, but was just wondering. Not talking about something with halo lights either, but more like the german glass final K, without the hefty price tag or having to take apart and put back together.

Thanks

1. Polish the heck out of your oem headlights.

2. Watch the original Fast and the Furious, find 3 homies with black civic coupes, deck them out w/nawwwwssss (you need the large bottles, 2 of them, and you need them by tonight) and green neon lights underneath and jack the Nissan supply truck when it leaves the docks.

3. Get the German glass headlights or Final Konexion headlight covers. You gotta pay to play!

xxsptcuztomsxx
03-22-2007, 06:38 PM
^haha, you put HID projectors into a fluted plastic lense.

way to basically ruin the gorgeous HID cutoff

i agree...the light output is gona be distorted ...get some fk lenses....or rock the halogen units...

staygold24
03-22-2007, 06:54 PM
You can also get the supermade lenses as well. but I believe the group buy has ended.

NI_YON_Zenki
03-22-2007, 07:01 PM
Yeah, I'll be doing custom 2//4 Zenki headlamps starting in june 07, projector option and clear cover conversions, also offered in complete units. .. .

Let me know

s13pignose
03-22-2007, 07:26 PM
Are they gonna be h4, if so I'll stay posted around june!

Like I know you gotta pay to play. I mean stuff comes out for civics on ebay everyother day. Projectors, halos (:() euro this and that. And it's all ways cheaper than $500. To me 95-96 s14 headlights are similar in shape to 92-95 civics, so some of these lighting companies can't say it would be t0o complicated of a design to make some for us lol. But I know how the honda market is compared to the 240 market, so I'm not gonna even complain.

I just dropped 3 on the kouki led tails from aspec, so I c0uld see myself doing the same for some headlights if the quality is nice, but not $500. But that's just me. I know it's just a couple hundred more, but ohwell.

Usdmsilvia saw your post about you getting the german glass. They are clean, can't argue that. BTW if that was green zenki in the same thread, thats one of the cleanest zenki's I've seen

Taniguchi_Is_#1
03-22-2007, 08:26 PM
you can be cheap and put in some R32 headlights. and then do a HID conversion. doesn't fit the greatest, but it's alright from a distance. i guess. maybe.

CKAMC
03-22-2007, 08:35 PM
if you think dropping 3 on tails is fair then call up justin over at performance... germans are about the same price and are LHD beam pattern.

infact kouki germans are in the high 400's to low 500's for the head lamps (random plug)

chmercer
03-22-2007, 08:51 PM
you can take the lens off and sand the flutes off if you are too poor for fk lenses

but from the looks of your post you dont even have a screwdriver to take the headlight off the car

grnappletree14
03-22-2007, 09:04 PM
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vanish1
03-22-2007, 09:09 PM
i already posted that link, dang

grnappletree14
03-22-2007, 09:11 PM
my bad ill take it off

skate07
03-23-2007, 01:09 AM
you can take the lens off and sand the flutes off if you are too poor for fk lenses

but from the looks of your post you dont even have a screwdriver to take the headlight off the car

some guy tried on 240sxforums and it failed like the smell of bigfoots dick

chmercer
03-23-2007, 01:26 AM
lol

im sure theres somebody on nico who failed at putting on coilovers

but that dosent mean you cant do it

articdragon192
03-23-2007, 02:59 AM
Uras also has the clear lenses.

Slidin240Wayz
03-23-2007, 07:47 AM
You want quality parts with no labor at no cost? You have to be realistic.

JDM Headlights
FK Covers
Audi ECE Projectors
Philips 4300k Bulbs
Nissan OEM HID Ballasts
Some paint, sanding, JB, etc.

$1000 easy.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Covers-2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/dsc29657za-1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Covers-3.jpg





Carlos

inertiaticism
03-23-2007, 07:49 AM
How thick are the FK covers?
Are they like stock thickness or thinner, like they are blow molded or vaccum molded sheet plastic?

edit- not to be a dick dude, but you spent all that cash on Zenki HLs, then put eyebrows over them?

RoyalFlush
03-23-2007, 07:56 AM
^whats wrong with eyebrows

vanish1
03-23-2007, 07:57 AM
some guy tried on 240sxforums

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d4/sebastianho44/DSC00595.jpg

OEM HID retro is the only way to go. HIDplanet rocks.

Slidin240Wayz
03-23-2007, 07:58 AM
How thick are the FK covers?
Are they like stock thickness or thinner, like they are blow molded or vaccum molded sheet plastic?

edit- not to be a dick dude, but you spent all that cash on Zenki HLs, then put eyebrows over them?

FK covers are aftermarket pieces, not OEM fitment, I had to make them fit with silicone. I did not care how they are molded, they are made in a factory?!?!?

I had CF eyebrows to begin with, and?

240trainee
03-23-2007, 07:58 AM
Well, I think it looks like ass.

But he likes them, and I bet they light very well.

for that money, I would just do a kouki S14 front and and put HID projectors in the kouki headlights, but thats just me.

Slidin240Wayz
03-23-2007, 07:59 AM
HAHAH, talk about placing them in the oven...wow.


Carlos

inertiaticism
03-23-2007, 08:03 AM
^whats wrong with eyebrows
I happen to think they look like taint, but I guess it's just an opinion.
"Hey Gerald, I sure wish my headlights were a little less round and more aggressive looking like Kouki HLs"
"I know, let's just stick a little piece of plastic on them so they look less rounded"
"Fuck yea!"

To each his own though.

I did not care how they are molded, they are made in a factory?!?!?
Haha, I see what you mean.
I was thinking more along the lines of whether or not they are similar in thickness to OEM lenses, or if they are a lot thinner.
With heat and a vaccum bag, you could conceivably make a small run of clear covers.
They would be much thinner than OEM though, but fairly impact resistant.

Slidin240Wayz
03-23-2007, 08:04 AM
Well, I think it looks like ass.

But he likes them, and I bet they light very well.

for that money, I would just do a kouki S14 front and and put HID projectors in the kouki headlights, but thats just me.

They lit just like an Audi...

Kouki S14 is eh for me. I pleased myself :D .

Carlos

I happen to think they look like taint, but I guess it's just an opinion.
"Hey Gerald, I sure wish my headlights were a little less round and more aggressive looking like Kouki HLs"
"I know, let's just stick a little piece of plastic on them so they look less rounded"
"Fuck yea!"

To each his own though.

Little piece of plastic? Real Carbon Fiber on mine.

Carlos

RoyalFlush
03-23-2007, 08:05 AM
Well, I think it looks like ass.

But he likes them, and I bet they light very well.

for that money, I would just do a kouki S14 front and and put HID projectors in the kouki headlights, but thats just me.

if your talking about carlos's car at least its different, i think it looks good, its different but good. its hard to make zenkis lenses look good anyway, i spent countless hours sanding mine and that never changes the fact that ther're plastic, i need to invest in some germans

240trainee
03-23-2007, 08:08 AM
yea, I was talking to Carlos.

Props to him for doing it, but I think it looks horrible, hell, I think any modification of the zenki lense looks horrible.

just my opinion.

RoyalFlush
03-23-2007, 08:11 AM
hahah yeah zenkis lenses arent to popular lol
they should have been made with glass to start with

inertiaticism
03-23-2007, 08:12 AM
That only makes it even more pointless to me, but if you like it, that's rad.

The Audi HIDs, I can get behind though.
OEM Zenki lights SUCK, even when relayed.

usdm180sx
03-23-2007, 11:30 AM
Just get the glass units from Justin at performance nissan:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/314000-314999/314750_156_full.jpg

Then get the h4 lo/hi beam units from jrt. they come with a light shield integrated into the bulb to eliminate glare.

The neat thing about the German headlights is that they have an integrated motor that adjusts the beam height via a cockpit mounted switch. I have a friend in Germany who sourced out a switch and will be shipping it over. Hopefully I can wire it up pretty soon.

chmercer
03-23-2007, 11:43 AM
man. 1000 dollars on zenki headlights. lol

eastcoastS14
03-23-2007, 12:20 PM
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w166/maxlopes/f.jpg

INGS zenki with eyebrows i think it looks decent but everyone has their own opinion

CKAMC
03-23-2007, 02:07 PM
Try $395 including tax ;)

i think he is refering to carlos.

props to carlos! that shit is HOT!

fuck all the haters!

buy yeah once again german glass for those that like that lamp orientation... jdm is interesting as well.

do what you want now... you have the knowledge now

Slidin240Wayz
03-23-2007, 02:33 PM
Thanks Chris.

I chose the JDM headlights because the high and low beam housings are independantly adjustable. With the USDM housings, it is one piece, so if you retrofit is not the same on both sides, when you flash your highbeams, they will light up different places.

The Euro headlights are only aesthetically pleasing. They have the ability to move up and down, but I have not seen anyone activate this function. Your lighting will not better itself, unless you use better lights bulbs mentioned before. You can clean your headlights properly in order to get them clear once again; sand paper, plastifiller, aluminum polish, and clear coat will work wonders.

A retro on the cheap:
Ballasts, bulbs, projectors, clear covers, and supplies can be had for $500.

I chose to do my retrofit for better lighting and it is one of my top upgrades to the car. I will be retrofitting projectors in the high and low beam housings on my next retrofit. I will also wire them up so that when I put the high beams on, the low beams stay on.

Carlos

articdragon192
03-23-2007, 02:45 PM
My friend's old S14.

FK Lenses with blacked out housing
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_271_full.gif
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_270_full.gif

Jdm Headlamps with Blacked out Housing
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_227_full.gif
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/526000-526999/526842_176_full.gif

s13pignose
03-23-2007, 02:59 PM
you can take the lens off and sand the flutes off if you are too poor for fk lenses

but from the looks of your post you dont even have a screwdriver to take the headlight off the car


Not poor by no means lol...I just have a preference on how much I'm willing to spend on certain things, doesn't mean I can afford them.

BTW I have a screwdriver, a drill with phillip and flat head bits, and an electric screwdriver. Take your pick :rofl:.

I might check with performance nissan on the glass. USdm silvia whats this I read on one site about the high beams having to be modified? I see you recommended some h4 hid kit, so I take it the german glass still use h4 bulbs. Was it the jdm lights that use something different than h4?

Anyway thanks for all the help.

Seems like in the end german glass might be the only choice, but from the posts it seems performance nissan are the people to talk to if I get them.

pbcstylez
03-23-2007, 03:15 PM
i got some jdm zenki headlights ill sell u for cheap if ur interested!

s13pignose
03-23-2007, 03:32 PM
Oh yeah NI_YON_Zenki what are some designs your thinking about. Any pictures of lights you've done. If you don't want to reveal anything now since it not june, if you don't mind send me a pm.

Thanks

MrMigs
03-23-2007, 03:54 PM
man. 1000 dollars on zenki headlights. lol

Seriously.

If they're not broken, leave it stock.

Full-Lock
03-23-2007, 04:05 PM
carlos' car is straight money. those headlights look better than the normal JDM zenki ones and i love what he did with the FK lenses. 1k is high for zenki lights though...i woulda just went kouki conversion. but i must say that it is one of the better looking zenki fronts i've seen.

Brian
03-23-2007, 04:05 PM
fuck I want Japanese headlights...

usdm180sx
03-23-2007, 04:23 PM
fuck I want Japanese headlights...

Are you looking to blind oncoming drivers? haha

Brian
03-23-2007, 04:33 PM
Not necessarily
but if they do, I don't care.
You should see my headlights right now.
The pattern... hahah its laughable

Slidin240Wayz
03-23-2007, 04:50 PM
i got some jdm zenki headlights ill sell u for cheap if ur interested!


How cheap? PM me please.


I love how Raine's car was/is setup, one of my favorite clean setups.


If not Jason at Performance, call Mike at Superior.


Seriously.

If they're not broken, leave it stock.

That makes no sense in the Car Modification Industry.


Topsecret88,
Thanks man. PM me a pic of your car, it seems like you are a fan of the JDM goodies as well.


Brian,
Don't worry about the angle so much. I have the HID bulbs chillin in the JDM housing with the stock covers right now; the light goes everywhere and very rarely get flashed. Are you looking to retro as well?



Carlos

Brian
03-23-2007, 05:06 PM
no.

what I'm gonna do, regardless of if I use US or JPN lights, is just throw in some random HID units.
I don't care where the light shines. I don't care who it blinds. All I know is that it is going to shed tons of light in front of me...

allstar
03-23-2007, 09:26 PM
Here is my setup!!!!
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l29/oneruffryder42/untitled-3.jpg

Just pay the Cash to get the Glass

projectRDM
03-23-2007, 11:55 PM
no.

what I'm gonna do, regardless of if I use US or JPN lights, is just throw in some random HID units.
I don't care where the light shines. I don't care who it blinds. All I know is that it is going to shed tons of light in front of me...

Problem is, the JDM lights are plastic just like ours. You'll be sanding and polishing every six months just like you have to do now.

chmercer
03-24-2007, 12:48 AM
no.

what I'm gonna do, regardless of if I use US or JPN lights, is just throw in some random HID units.
I don't care where the light shines. I don't care who it blinds. All I know is that it is going to shed tons of light in front of me...

YOU IRRESPONSIBLE ASSHOLE

TougeLabs
02-28-2008, 04:48 AM
Ill sell you my jdm headlights im in the market to do something else...

pm me get rolling step up to the plate

i also have dual projector s13 headlights that may i say are dope why did nissan make such cool headlights back in the day then stop and then start again ?
anyone?

SlideWell
02-28-2008, 05:04 AM
you just bumped a YEAR old thread, good job buddy :down:

EDacIouSX
02-28-2008, 05:12 AM
yup, it's an old ass thread...


YOU IRRESPONSIBLE ASSHOLE

how ironic, the asshole is calling someone else an asshole. go figure.

grudge
02-28-2008, 10:47 AM
no.

what I'm gonna do, regardless of if I use US or JPN lights, is just throw in some random HID units.
I don't care where the light shines. I don't care who it blinds. All I know is that it is going to shed tons of light in front of me...

that's what i'm sayin. F-it!
:fawkd:

jackjack
02-28-2008, 11:33 AM
what....... the.......... hell??????????? damn this is old.

Mangudai
02-28-2008, 11:42 AM
What are the best bulbs(non hid) to replace stock with? I figure clearing the lights and getting better bulbs will do a hell of a light. As is my lighting is terrible at night. I plan to do a retro fit way down the line but I'd like something better for now.

Phlip
02-28-2008, 11:52 AM
I am closing this before anyone else posts in it.