View Full Version : SR20DET= How much$$
nissolet
03-15-2007, 05:42 PM
i really want to throw in a SR20DET red top on my s13 coupe. i got a estimate from a shop for 2,800 is that too much or a good deal?
He said it came with this!!
(sr20det,new fuel pump,new air filter everything else is oem)
is this for the motor and labor?
arkive43
03-15-2007, 05:48 PM
if thats the installed price thats ok i guess..sr20 motor set shoud run from 1500-2000 depending on where you order ,condition etc......
614duece40
03-15-2007, 08:11 PM
if thats for just a motor set, fuck that you can get them cheaper, but if thats installed its a pretty good price. seems to be about $800, which isnt bad because i had a shop try to charge me $1200 for labor.
jrmiller84
03-15-2007, 08:19 PM
Motorset from HeavyThrottle: $2550
Motorset from Enjuku: $2299
I'm not sure of the quality of Heavy Throttles but all of the ones from Enjuku I've seen were amazing. Heavy Throttle is highly regarded though so I'm sure they're nice. Enjuku details all of the motors before they give them to you.
$2800 would be too much for the motorset and I kind of doubt that it's $2800 for the motor and installation. I'd be worried about the quality.
SiI40sx
03-15-2007, 08:21 PM
Yes thats a decent price
$2000 for front clip
$1000 typical labor
Flybert
03-15-2007, 08:43 PM
RNDfactory has a good price on SR's installed. Go to www.rndfactory.com and give them a call. They have some motors coming in at the end of the month. My friend and I will be picking up one for his car.
nissolet
03-15-2007, 11:09 PM
Yes this is for parts and labor!!! so most of you guys think is a cool deal??
is it ok if i dont change the clutch and water pump?
s13speeddrft
03-15-2007, 11:13 PM
i would change the clutch and water pump while the motor is out. It will save you troubles down the road. And also is a good idea on a motor that will have been sitting around.
jdm538
03-15-2007, 11:13 PM
change all maintenance parts
if not you will regret it later.
bleach8484
03-15-2007, 11:13 PM
I'd deff change the clutch... Water pump can be changed pretty easy down the road if needed
nissolet
03-15-2007, 11:19 PM
I see, any special stage clutch?
rokmplutonium
03-16-2007, 02:13 AM
Get new motor and tranny mounts too.
fliprayzin240sx
03-16-2007, 02:20 PM
Exedy is always a safe bet...look around, theres a usually a deal on clutches going on in the groupbuy area.
KA-T_240
03-16-2007, 02:31 PM
Ya, for sure do the clutch while you have the motor out, it is so much easier. Motor and tranny mounts are also good options. Look if there is anything else that is needed, possibly new turbo gaskets. Also any other parts you were planning on upgrading soon after install, just do it all at once.
adrians_s13
03-16-2007, 02:47 PM
RNDfactory has a good price on SR's installed. Go to www.rndfactory.com and give them a call. They have some motors coming in at the end of the month. My friend and I will be picking up one for his car.
+1
that $2,800 better be with installation....
johngriff
03-16-2007, 02:59 PM
itt why I dont do motorswaps anymore.
adrians_s13
03-16-2007, 03:10 PM
itt why I dont do motorswaps anymore.
haha... dude, competition is tough... Spencer does red top swaps for like 2500 even.
DJ_Sunrise
03-16-2007, 03:37 PM
I would hate to sound like a prick.. but honestly.. if you need to ask man, you aren't ready. if you cant do a swap yourself, then at the very least you should know whats included in the swap, and what other shit should be swapped out...
sr20det4mys13
03-18-2007, 12:08 AM
I would hate to sound like a prick.. but honestly.. if you need to ask man, you aren't ready. if you cant do a swap yourself, then at the very least you should know whats included in the swap, and what other shit should be swapped out...
lol.. you do sound like a prick.. lol.. and no one is born with sr20 knowledge
Ameer
03-18-2007, 12:25 AM
DJ_Sunrise is too harsh. You do not need to have knowledge of swapping engines to get an SR20 swap. If that was true, 2/3rds of sr20 owners would not exist. On the other hand, you have to have some common sense about engine maintainence. I reccomend you get a blacktop since its newer and has a better chance of lasting you. Also, get a clip that is BONE STOCK to ensure it has not been abused. Important thing to know is if the swap includes the sr20det radiator. The KA radiator has the top opening on the opposite end. Good luck with your decision.
s13speeddrft
03-18-2007, 12:30 AM
not only general knowledge about engine maintenance is needed to perform a swap but also an overall knowledge about engines themselves, wiring and what everything does will help as well. There will always be some sort of learning involved in anything you do.
johngriff
03-19-2007, 04:10 AM
If you have the money, get it serviced regularly by an experienced shop, they should be able to keep you on the up and up. SR20's are awesome reliable engines when proper maintenance is taken.
I have seen tons of Clips with Rolled ODO's (35k Kilos, and the steering wheel is worn to death by man handling.. gtfo). Also alot of SR's get reverted to stock before they are cut up and shipped. I would check metal flakes in the oil, and scaring on the cam lobes to judge engine wear.
The largest problem with SR owners, is not being able to bleed the air from the coolant system.
Silverbullet
03-19-2007, 05:50 AM
If you have the money, get it serviced regularly by an experienced shop
...
Also alot of SR's get reverted to stock before they are cut up and shipped. I would check metal flakes in the oil, and scaring on the cam lobes to judge engine wear.
this is something i didnt bother doing but is really crucial if i do a motorswap again... if the motor is out, replace/maintenence every little easy thing there is. You might as well and it will be worth your wild.
ronmcdon
03-19-2007, 11:53 AM
thats not a bad deal at all if it includes labor. if i were you, id inquire what they have avail for a s13 blacktop, or even a s14 notchtop and opt for that instead. change the clutch while its easy to do so. the water pump is cheap, so might as well take care of that at the same time.
personally I'd replace a lot more things for the sake of reliability (timing belts, gaskets, sparkplugs), diagnostics (boost, oil pressure guages, maybe even splurge on a wideband) and ease of upgrading parts in the future (fmic, dp, exhaust). The SR reliability parts i put in at the same time cost a bit more than my s14 clip itself, but thats just me. just search around, there should be plenty of resources covering this on here and other nissan sites.
i'd highly recommend that if you can save up and do things right the first time around, you're going to save yourself a lot of $$$ and headaches in the long run. good luck! :)
johngriff
03-19-2007, 12:48 PM
I always replace the timing belt(s) on the SR!!!
nissolet
03-19-2007, 04:14 PM
Thanks ammer!! I hate when people on these chats think just cuz they know everthing about sr20 that we should too, thats why im asking if i new then i would not ask...well thanks everone that help me get some more ideas on the swap. im for sure going to use your ideas.
thanks again,
Me.
Ameer
03-19-2007, 09:09 PM
No problem, I hope this makes your decision easier.
johngriff
03-19-2007, 09:50 PM
Just for the record, the above statement about the timing belt, was me being sarcastic.
tastycakeman
03-19-2007, 10:31 PM
dude, dont forget, once you get it swapped, you should change out your intake narps. get the hardened titanium ones...
FRpilot
03-19-2007, 10:59 PM
if thats the installed price thats ok i guess..sr20 motor set shoud run from 1500-2000 depending on where you order ,condition etc......
out in cali. full front clips run from 2200-2500 + tax + shipping. motorset only.. ive seen 1800 for missing stuff.. and upwards of 2200+\\\
Yes thats a decent price
$2000 for front clip
$1000 typical labor
1000 true for labor. more than that for front clip about 2200-2500+tax+shipping..
2000 for maybe a motorset.
RNDfactory has a good price on SR's installed. Go to www.rndfactory.com and give them a call. They have some motors coming in at the end of the month. My friend and I will be picking up one for his car.
yep. RND factory had a groupbuy for 2800 motor and isntallation.
nissolet
03-19-2007, 11:56 PM
i checked out rndfactory , thanks.
'90RPS13
03-20-2007, 12:04 AM
Well I just swapped in a SR for a buddy and I did the swap for $500 (Took One Day) and he got the complete motorset for $1,500 ~ $1,700 shipped off ebay.
I think all-in-all he had $2,500 for a running untuned SR.
I cant remember the name of the company but the only thing wrong with the engine was Oil Pump.
I thoroughly checked it out and thats all that was wrong. Shop around.
johngriff
03-20-2007, 01:53 AM
I cant remember the name of the company but the only thing wrong with the engine was Oil Pump.
Oh, thats it? Not that big of a deal... :confused:
ronmcdon
03-20-2007, 03:35 PM
Just for the record, the above statement about the timing belt, was me being sarcastic.
sorry i meant the v-belts. i always get forget the sr/ka runs on timing chains instead of belts. my bad. :P
'90RPS13
03-20-2007, 05:40 PM
Well what had caused the oil pump to fuck is the oil pickup. It had a dimple on the bottom of the oil pan.
They sent a new oil pump and pan.
joshuaput
03-20-2007, 07:53 PM
i dont want to try and thread jack... but I want to put an sr in my fc. Does that shop(or any) do that? and how hard would it be?
(kinda on topic):-/
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