long shifter solutions

[ronmcdon]

I'm trying to replace my stock s14 shifter with somthing along the lines of long shifter.
I'd like to retain the stock shift distance, and most likely go with either

a) a good long throw shifter such as something like this, but for 240's:
http://www.fastlineperformance.com/shifter.htm
If there is a comparable product for 240's pls let me know.
This is a bit more absurd, and im not so sure it would work:
http://www.mooneyesusa.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=188_23_25&products_id=1067&osCsid=e56ab6ad55234f1fa63bd324450f18e5

or

b) get a nismo shifter that has close to stock shift distances, and a longer shift knob. I would rather not get one of the Bubble knobs, as they seem to have a more notorious rep of breaking in half.
there are a couple long shift knobs i'm considering, but the ones that are extraordinarily longer are limited.
here's another equally ridiculous suggestion for a shift knob. may or may not work better than the bubble knob;

http://www.mooneyesusa.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=188_23_25&products_id=428&osCsid=e56ab6ad55234f1fa63bd324450f18e5

I've tried to do some research here, but the info i could find was a bit more limited. There are a lot of resources on short shifter.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=131843&highlight=shifter
Someone in the last post mentioned something about using an earlier silvia S12 shifter. It sounds like an interesting idea. How many of us have actually done that?

Any feedback would be great, tia!

[Brian]

First of all - you get a POSITIVE for wanting something Mooneyes.
I was there the other day but didn't see that shift knob at the shop. Perhaps they have it though...
oh oops, they DO have the Nostalgia shift arm there.

Second - What I did, is go to autobacs and buy this thread on shifter extension. I'd say it is a good 3 inches longer. I love it.

I suggest this.

[Ian]

I'm going to agree with Brian

1. that shift knob is sweet
2. i have been searching for a thread on extension for a long ass time

[Brian]

hmm they have them in stock all the time at autobacs...

[Ian]

I think Autobacs is like...5,000 some odd miles away from me?

I'll see if I can stop by on the way home from work...

[Brian]

yeah... its right off the highway.
I could probably look into them for you.
If you sent me money and whatnot...

[A Spec Products]

hmm they have them in stock all the time at autobacs...

Yes, but for 10x1.25 they had the shorter ones in stock, I think its like 4" tall and has a kink in it so it bends

They had black and silver in stock yesterday when I was there

They had the longer 6" ones that are straight, but only in 12x1.25 pitch, which is Toyota/Subaru

[sbanzer123]

whats the point of a longer shifter?

[A Spec Products]

whats the point of a longer shifter?

closer to you so you dont have to move your hand off the steering wheel as long between shifts

looks

being cool

that kinda stuff

[ALMOSTJDM]

Yes they do have them in stock the short 4inch ones are 10 bucks they have longer ones that bend at the end i forget how much they were

[liv2drift045]

I'd suggest the longer shifter than the shifter extension... ive broken 3 of those things.. twice on the track and one on the street during regular driving...got mine from autobacs.. two were from one company and the third one was a different company (well different name on the packaging anyway)

good luck
bubble knob ftw

[A Spec Products]

I'd suggest the longer shifter than the shifter extension... ive broken 3 of those things.. twice on the track and one on the street during regular driving...got mine from autobacs.. two were from one company and the third one was a different company (well different name on the packaging anyway)

good luck
bubble knob ftw

bubble knobs will crack in half too

obviously dont be using the extensions on the track either

10x1.25 isnt exactly thick

[Brian]

I use the shifter extension everyday. been using it for over a year easily.
All daily driving.
All track driving.
All love maki....waiiiit a minute.

[A Spec Products]

I use the shifter extension everyday. been using it for over a year easily.
All daily driving.
All track driving.
All love maki....waiiiit a minute.

You are such a liar.

You don't make love, you have SEXXXXXX.

[ronmcdon]

whats the point of a longer shifter?

in addition to what has already been mentioned, there's a less likely chance of mis-shifting. I absolutely suck at shifting, and that will never change. I mis-shift all the time on cars with shorter throw shifters. I just have to come up with something to get around that. On cars with longer throw shifters, like my crx beater, I almost never have that problem. I'd imagine its not for everyone though.

At the track, I've already had 2 unfortunate incidents b/c of mis-shifting.
I spun out and hit an apex curb hard the first time with a miata. The second time i blew my engine by shifting to 3rd instead of 5th on a straightway.

I also personally don't care for shifters that have a shorter throw. Its also a matter of preference. i just dont care for the feel of it. i also find long-shifters aesthetically pleasing to the eye. check out the cressida 'pimp cane' shifter on the earlier zilvia link i gave, or the pickup truck-like shifter at fastline performance. It looks kinda redneck, but i really like it a lot.

also, kinda ot but I'm also trying to figure another long shifter alternative with my 06 sti. its a fun car for the most part, but I don't think I could ever get used to the sloppy, shorter throw oem shifter.

[ronmcdon]

bubble knobs will crack in half too

obviously dont be using the extensions on the track either

10x1.25 isnt exactly thick

I did think about the extensions, but yes i would worry about the durability of it on the on the track. It just takes one mishap to cause some kinda disaster there. However, if there is some brand of extension that is infact proven on the track, then I'd def been interested!

[Brian]

ummmm

ahem

I have been running my extension for over a year... probably closer to two years now. tons of track events. daily driving too. NEVER had a problem.


also i might add i have been racking up the negative rep lately
i got this
"you drive a 240, not a hot rod, quit being a trendy bitch"
today for liking Moon stuff i guess.
wicked.
Let the HATE flow.

[ronmcdon]

I use the shifter extension everyday. been using it for over a year easily.
All daily driving.
All track driving.
All love maki....waiiiit a minute.

THanks for the rec! I think I'll give the extension a shot, since you said it's track proven. are there any particular tips you would have to secure the extension from slipping?

[A Spec Products]

Brian is the man.

THanks for the rec! I think I'll give the extension a shot, since you said it's track proven. are there any particular tips you would have to secure the extension from slipping?

Tighten it.

It comes with a nut to secure the extension to the shifter.

[Brian]

it just threads on.

I have never had a problem with it breaking, loosening, stripping, yelling, etc.

I have a Pivot shift knob on it.
Real simple system. No worries.

[ronmcdon]

here's another shiftknob at the mooneyes site i was looking at. its just as cheesy, but is 7.5" long (maybe too long for a 240 interior). also made of urethene, so Id imagine its more durable than the bubble knob:

http://www.mooneyesusa.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=188_23_25&products_id=874&osCsid=e56ab6ad55234f1fa63bd324450f18e5

[Brian]

oh they have the brown one in the shop right now.
Pretty cool.
but, with an extension AND that shifter, its gonna be pretty high. lol

[A Spec Products]

here's another shiftknob at the mooneyes site i was looking at. its just as cheesy, but is 7.5" long (maybe too long for a 240 interior). also made of urethene, so Id imagine its more durable than the bubble knob:

http://www.mooneyesusa.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=188_23_25&products_id=874&osCsid=e56ab6ad55234f1fa63bd324450f18e5

I wanted the Tiki one:

http://www.mooneyesusa.com/catalog/images/Igjc08.jpg

Its gangster cause you have to drill and tap yourself

True hot rod styleru

[SimpleSexy180]

7.5 isnt that long.

i have a 8 inch flower knob with stock shifter and it sits at a pretty nice height.

http://a33.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/54/l_8bfbf0268fd7cedd67c122fa0d239a28.jpg

[Brian]

yes, but.... adding the extension too...... then you get to ultimate heights. !!

[A Spec Products]

7.5 isnt that long.

i have a 8 inch flower knob with stock shifter and it sits at a pretty nice height.


Yeah, thats the knob that snapped in half at the event

It cracked in half when dude was shifting into 3rd

SWEEET

[Dousan_PG]

yeah ocis jeremy split his in 2 first run
shifted BAM no more shift knob
funny stuff
but not really.

[SimpleSexy180]

yes, but.... adding the extension too...... then you get to ultimate heights. !!


adding any extension is pimp.

he should do it! :)

[fromxtor]

if someone were to get an extension from this autobacs place i would pay for it + shipping. :bigok:

[ronmcdon]

if someone were to get an extension from this autobacs place i would pay for it + shipping. :bigok:

Lol, the shifter extensions suprisingly are not easy to find. I tried to Google it, but no luck. the superautobacs site unfortunately doesn't have an online store where you could look up the part either.

if i was closer to garbage grove (im an hour away), i would check out autobacs sooner. I'll prob stop by within a month or so and pick something up.

[Brian]

I could probably help out if people want them...

[LB.Motoring]

Future shift knob,

It aint gonna break, if it breaks, all hell breaks loose.

http://www.therallyshack.co.uk/images/ALCHEMY/Gear%20Knobs/ASS47.jpg

[ronmcdon]

I could probably help out if people want them...

would be great if you could let me know the brand name of the one you got. id imagine there are prob some brands that are better than others. thanks! :bow:

[A Spec Products]

would be great if you could let me know the brand name of the one you got. id imagine there are prob some brands that are better than others. thanks! :bow:

Just drive to Autobacs

They were selling only one brand

Try it out

If its works, then cool

If it breaks, then it was only $10

[SochBAT]

B&M SS, Dildo Knob, shifter extension = WIN!

The nice tightness of the best sync-age ever!

[liv2drift045]

Just drive to Autobacs

They were selling only one brand

Try it out

If its works, then cool

If it breaks, then it was only $10

there ya go... ive heard both ways... mine never broke for awhile then bam hahaha... but some friends i have still haven't broken theres

wont know until YOU try

[johngriff]

To chime in on the S12 shifter.

My favorite setup of all time, and what you will see me rocking is.

87-88 CA engine series S12 Shifter (lever is longer than S13/14 and drop in).
HKS shifter Springs
New Dealer Nylon nub (that goes into linkage inside trans)
Nismo Knob. (http://www.mynismo.com/products/?ID=2346)

By far my favorite. I have the non titanium knob, but its the exact same style (70ish bucks?). After all is said and done, it is easy to grab, and stays in gear once placed, even if i am On/Off/On/Off throttle hard.

[ronmcdon]

To chime in on the S12 shifter.

My favorite setup of all time, and what you will see me rocking is.

87-88 CA engine series S12 Shifter (lever is longer than S13/14 and drop in).
HKS shifter Springs
New Dealer Nylon nub (that goes into linkage inside trans)
Nismo Knob. (http://www.mynismo.com/products/?ID=2346)

By far my favorite. I have the non titanium knob, but its the exact same style (70ish bucks?). After all is said and done, it is easy to grab, and stays in gear once placed, even if i am On/Off/On/Off throttle hard.

yes, i noticed that in the previous shifter thread. i'd certainly look up the S12 CA shifter. Is this something you can get at the dealer, or should i look somewhere else? Im interested b/c it could be a cheaper, if not also better alternative to the Nismo shifter. About the Nylon nub (this is a bushing, correct?), would installing this entail having to open up the actual tranny?

[McRussellPants]

I enjoy the stock floppy elephant penis shifter.




that is all.

[94cc0rd]

is it pointless to do a longer shifter or extension if you have a short shifter installed??

[Ian]

I enjoy the stock floppy elephant penis shifter.




that is all.


Yeah I ran the stock shift knob on my B&M for a while...then one day when it was really hot, I was putting it back on and I ripped the threads right out of it haha

So now I have some cheap ass noname knob and it's sweet

[ZOLTAN]

I've also been looking into some sort of an extension for my shifter.
Been searching for a while now and just kind of gave up hope(don't want one of those tall ass plastic knobs).

A buddy of mine drives a Honda and has a nice shifter extension, but the company that made his refuses to make any for Nissans. He's kind of "sponsored" :keke: by this company and has direct contact with the owner. He's asked him several times to no avail.

Kind of a shame, there seems to be definite interest in something like this.




.Eddie.

Wow, been a while since I’ve posted here.

[SochBAT]

is it pointless to do a longer shifter or extension if you have a short shifter installed??
It does cancel out its effect, but if you've ever felt a B&M SS, you'll know what i said that.

Stock Elephant Knob = FTW. I love it.

[A Spec Products]

Short shifters are wack

I like to know what gear I'm in

[rubberbiscuitt]

rat fink was the first thing that came to mind when i saw the thread title long shifters. and it was awesome to see a link to mooneyes.

a long shifter is on my list of things to make. why don't you just whittle your own out of a chunk of aluminum? the aluminum materials won't exceed $20 and it'll be made exactly to your preferred height/backset. another thing to consider modifying is the hand brake lever.

[johngriff]

I dont know if lathing aluminum can be compared to whittle-ing.

Um, go to junkyard, pull shifter from S12, for the springs i would suggest lowering the tranny, for the bushing... well its attatched to the shifter when you remove it. Do it, and you will see.

A "short shifter" is different than a shifter with a long knob. The short represents the distance from the ball to the bushing. We are speaking of the distance between the ball to the shift knob.

Could you use a "short shifter + Long lever"? Yes.

The short shifter reduces the distance between gears(throw). The long lever might seem like it is making the "throw" different, but the lever will still be at the same angle, relative to each gear, as it was before.

SO...... Short shifter kit to reduce throw, and i like long levers because of ease of placement, additional weight to keep the trans in gear.

[SochBAT]

The only reason i recommend the B&M SS is the nice tight feel of it.

I've heard great things about the Nismo Solid Shifter, but i've never experienced it myself, so i can't say shit about it.

Who would let me drive their cars with it? =]

[UfoZ8myCow]

Any of you guys with the shifter extensions from Autobacs have pics of it installed in your cars???

[Kahl]

Man we don't get any of that stuff down here. Is there an online shop that sells bubble/flower shift knobs?
The only aftermarket shift knobs we get are pretty much door knobs with cheesey LEDs in them, unless you want actual brand name stuff, nismo etc...

[ronmcdon]

The only reason i recommend the B&M SS is the nice tight feel of it.

I've heard great things about the Nismo Solid Shifter, but i've never experienced it myself, so i can't say shit about it.

Who would let me drive their cars with it? =]

I've never actually experienced first hand either shifters, but from what I've read it seems that for a ss, the B&M unit has a lot of good feedback. the only negative being that it transmits a lot of vibration. If you get a weighted shiftknob, however, that seems to help somewhat. If you get a non-weighted, long shiftknob like the jdm bubble knobs, the vibration gets worse. at least thats what i've read. I just dont care for ss period, so id avoid that route anyways.

What I've heard about the Nismo unit is that (contrary to it being advertised that throws are 25% shorter), the throws are pretty much the same as oem, only that the shift throws feels more precise and solid. My guess is that its pretty much an oem shifter but with stiffer bushings. I guess its possible to get the Nismo shifter feel by simply replacing the oem bushings with the Nismo replacements. however, i've never actually seen nismo bushings for sale. this is actually what a lot of the wrx guys do. they just change a bunch of bushings with more stiff replacements from kartboy and cip, iirc.

[ronmcdon]

Man we don't get any of that stuff down here. Is there an online shop that sells bubble/flower shift knobs?
The only aftermarket shift knobs we get are pretty much door knobs with cheesey LEDs in them, unless you want actual brand name stuff, nismo etc...

i wish some of the more reputable vendors here would sell junk like shifter extensions and the gimmicky bubble knobs. there is seems to be a reasonable demand for stuff like that, yet the parts so difficult to find. :(

[Brian]

Listen up

I'm going to Autobacs tomorrow.

I am going to pick up one or MAYBE 2 of the extensions if you guys want.

PM me or reply in here or whatever.
I DO NOT want to buy them if nobody wants them.
well... i guess i could just make my shifter longer and longer. lol.

[SochBAT]

I've never actually experienced first hand either shifters, but from what I've read it seems that for a ss, the B&M unit has a lot of good feedback. the only negative being that it transmits a lot of vibration. If you get a weighted shiftknob, however, that seems to help somewhat. If you get a non-weighted, long shiftknob like the jdm bubble knobs, the vibration gets worse. at least thats what i've read.

I've never had any crazy vibration or anything from my B&M.

Felt tight, like i'd imagine a HighEnd car would feel like.

Again, no vibration.

[JaeTea]

Found this online...

http://www.seikosangyo.co.jp/newproduct/page_ET_025.html

[ronmcdon]

Found this online...

http://www.seikosangyo.co.jp/newproduct/page_ET_025.html

is that what an extension looks like? looks pretty cool. too bad i can't read japanese

[ronmcdon]

I've never had any crazy vibration or anything from my B&M.

Felt tight, like i'd imagine a HighEnd car would feel like.

Again, no vibration.

thats good to know. maybe there are other variables that may cause the vibration (or lack thereof).

[Brian]

^^^^
Yeah they have that angled kind.
They also have straight ones.

[Brian]

Oh, I didn't buy any at Autobacs this weekend.
but

They have short ones (maybe like 3.5 inch), long ones (maybe 6 inch), angled short ones. And these can be in black or polished.
Short ones are like $10 while tall ones were $20 I think.
Bunch in stock.

Get em....

[ronmcdon]

Oh, I didn't buy any at Autobacs this weekend.
but

They have short ones (maybe like 3.5 inch), long ones (maybe 6 inch), angled short ones. And these can be in black or polished.
Short ones are like $10 while tall ones were $20 I think.
Bunch in stock.

Get em....

Awesome! Thanks for the info! :2f2f:

[AuburnRyan]

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Seikosangyo ET-29: black, straight, 70mm, 65g

See our other listings for two other styles:

* ET-25: chrome, bent, 100mm, 95g
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DONE- YOU'RE WELCOME :)

[fromxtor]

Would those thread onto our shifter?^^ Brian I could deal with an long angled black one. :bigok:

[Brian]

Brian I could deal with an long angled black one. :bigok:


..yeahhhh i bet you could. .... fuckin squinty eyes here.

well, maybe I'll buy one this weekend...