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MELLO*SOS
02-22-2007, 10:34 AM
Edit: Thanks to an excellent suggestion from THEICECREAMDAN I'll show you a cool DIY device to help you fill your diff 100x more easily!
Getchur scroll on for a quick write up... You can thank theicecreamdan later! :bigok:

I hate filling my diff. The fill inlet is in an inconvenient location on the driver's side, right above the exhaust. This means I have to use some kind of hose and pump to get the gear oil into the pumpkin.

I currently "use" this style manual bottle pump, some cheap ass $5 thing from Autozone:
http://www.mophair.com/img/products/203.jpg

It basically sucks -- it just barely does the job, takes forever and feels like it's going to break any second. Also it doesn't fit smaller oil containers like the quart bottles, so I have to re-use an oil Liter jug. Also it doesn't fit between the exhaust and the pumpkin, so I'm forced to run some ghetto/janky hose clamped on the end up to the diff.

I'm now looking for a better alternative, either an electric or air powered or even decent quality manual hand pump. About all that I've found in the powered pump cat are these Fil-Rite pumps which are $150ish and seem to have decent quality (click the image and read their sales pitch/review):

http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/images/fillrite/fr-1604.jpg (http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/fillritepump.php)

My question is -- what kind of pump are you guys using to fill the diff? Has anyone had good luck with the Fil-Rite pump or anything similar? One thing I don't really like is that it's a 12v pump -- running jumper cables to the rear of the car every time I want to use the pump doesn't sound like fun... It is 16a @ 12v = 200w, so it shouldn't be hard to find a 110v 2amp -> 12v ~18a DC inverter to convert the pump to run on AC -- right? Edit: Ok to put something together to transform 110v to [email protected] I'm basically looking at buying a 20-25a 12v battery charger.. Which doesn't really make this a cheap solution at all. I change diff and trans oil once in a while for me and my buddies, not everyday for a living.

Doesn't some business sell a 110v gear oil transfer pump that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? What about a decent quality manual or air-powered pump? Please give me any suggestions you might have... I think anything will be an improvement from this Autozone trash I use now.

axiomatik
02-22-2007, 11:46 AM
what about something like this? costs a lot less than a air- or electric-powered pump but should be much easier to use than what you have now.


Hand pump (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=WMR%2DW1145&N=700+4294925139+4294923770+4294820671+115&autoview=sku)

MELLO*SOS
02-22-2007, 12:08 PM
Excellent that's along the lines of what I'm looking for -- thanks

A Spec Products
02-22-2007, 01:49 PM
That hand pump is the biggest piece of junk ever

So is the grease gun push style

I hate those things

The problem is that they are messy and often will leak, and the hose clamps on the ends of the tubes sometime blow off and explode gear oil all over you

I'd much rather use the manual bottle pump in the original post

MELLO*SOS
02-22-2007, 03:06 PM
:rofl: that would definitely suck :)

There has to be a better way than the bottle pump... Something with a feed line, nice aluminum o-ring'd body and a long hose to snake into the diff... Preferably an electric or air driven pump. Hell even a manual pump with a good ratio.

Thanks for the input keep the suggestions coming...

theicecreamdan
02-22-2007, 04:34 PM
what you are looking for is called a drill pump. you attach a drill to it, and go zip zip and the oil goes WOOOOSHHH and then you're done.

http://www.epinions.com/Water_Tanks_Pumps-Craftsman_Power-Drill_Pump_26960

MELLO*SOS
02-22-2007, 04:54 PM
YES DUDE! I hadn't even thought of those -- thanks and posi for you :bigok:

Have you used this with gear oil? Just wondering if the extra thick viscosity fucks with it at all. :confused:

They're so damn cheap I'll pick one up tonight from Lowes and test it out.. I think it'll work great. :naughty:

wickdmarz
02-22-2007, 07:57 PM
Ya I used a bottle pump for like ketchup bottles (similar to the first post), you can't fill it up too much but whatever it works.

MELLO*SOS
02-23-2007, 09:10 AM
THEICECREAMDAN, you're the fucking man. I picked up drill pump from Lowes, along with a 5/8" metal hose adapters with 3/8" nipples and some clear 3/8" hosing. It works beautifully. My buddy helped me changed the diff oil last night about 10pm, it took about 10 minutes total, most of that time was getting the drain/fill plugs out and letting it drip. Compared to the 20-30+ it usually takes this is a great improvement.

Anyway if anyone else is sick of trying to gravity siphon or bottle-pump their diff this is a kick ass alternative. I'll post a picture of my setup another time..

wickdmarz
02-23-2007, 10:46 AM
THEICECREAMDAN, you're the fucking man. I picked up drill pump from Lowes, along with a 5/8" metal hose adapters with 3/8" nipples and some clear 3/8" hosing. It works beautifully. My buddy helped me changed the diff oil last night about 10pm, it took about 10 minutes total, most of that time was getting the drain/fill plugs out and letting it drip. Compared to the 20-30+ it usually takes this is a great improvement.

Anyway if anyone else is sick of trying to gravity siphon or bottle-pump their diff this is a kick ass alternative. I'll post a picture of my setup another time..

ya I wanna see more pics of this drill pump.

MELLO*SOS
02-23-2007, 11:20 AM
Here's how to build your own...


LOW BUCK
FLUID TRANSFER PUMP

Take a trip to Lowes or whatever home store, and expect to spend around $25... Throw these items into your cart:


http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/659647/659647911684md.jpg (http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=138026-15649-PPDRP-1)
Drill pump - $10/ea - qty 1
.
http://www.gordonfabrics.com/images/adap58_small.JPG
5/8" Female Hose Connector with 3/8" hose nipple - $5/ea - qty 2
.
http://www.eckraus.com/images/VinylHose.jpg
3/8" Clear vinyl hosing - $2 - qty 10 ft.
.
http://www.greenshoes.com/productimages/02700.jpg
Small Clamps - $? - qty 2
.
http://www.restaurant-giardino.ch/koishop/images/teflon-tape.jpg
Teflon tape - $? - qty 1


Use the teflon tape on the male threads of the pump & thread on the female 3/8" adapters. Cut your 3/8" vinyl hose into two sections, one about 3-4 ft long (diff end) and the other piece about 2-3 ft long (oil feed). Clamp the hose onto the pump. Your low-buck fluid transfer pump is now assembled, chuck it up to your drill, sink the feed tube into your oil jug, snake the hose into your diff. Hold the pump with one hand, hold the hose in the diff with the other hand and pull the trigger on your drill with your remaining hand (lol).

Here is a photo-realistic rendering that my team of well-trained, cigarette-smoking graphic design monkeys spent hours and hours rendering:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/mello88/LOWbuckfluidtransferpump.jpg

Edit: Here's the complete setup:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v180/mello88/P2260021.jpg



* Note the warning on the pump, "DO NOT TRANSFER FLAMMABLE FLUIDS". Please pay attention to this warning as gear oil is somewhat flammable. As I was pumping gear oil into the diff, the entire assembly spontaneously caught fire, melted my rear bumper and tail lights and singed off some knuckle hair............... Alright, that never happened, but at least you've been warned. I don't accept responsibility for your stupidity, only my own...

theicecreamdan
02-23-2007, 12:45 PM
yeah, flash fire temp for gear oil is relatively low IIRC, BUT I seriously doubt you'll build anywhere near enough heat just pumping a couple quarts. Just don't dilly dally around.

MELLO*SOS
02-23-2007, 12:51 PM
Yeah I really doubt there is any risk... Not like you're transfering fuel or something. I suspect the pump is all plastic inside with a plastic impeller, they might put that warning due to the risk of static spark and/or spark from the drill motor. Thanks again dude, great idea it works perfectly.