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Yuri
02-13-2007, 01:21 PM
Check out the Dodge Demon, a competitor to the Solstice/Sky set to be unveiled at the Geneva show.
Dodge claims that they may make a version with the 300hp SRT-4 Caliber motor also.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/Yurikaze/dodgedemon.jpg

more here:
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/12/dodge-demon-concept-2009-2010/

yota man
02-13-2007, 02:40 PM
kinda looks like a smaller viper

chibo
02-13-2007, 02:41 PM
Dear god, that is ugly as shit :rofl:

20 til 3
02-13-2007, 02:42 PM
god people need to stop the madness

BC240
02-13-2007, 02:47 PM
That grill makes it look like ass

Taniguchi_Is_#1
02-13-2007, 02:50 PM
god people need to stop the madness


why stop the madness? the world needs more FR's. it's not half bad. i hope they retink the grill.

SimpleSexy180
02-13-2007, 02:53 PM
i like the headlights

Yuri
02-13-2007, 02:57 PM
I like it as is, but a coupe version would be even better.
Why stop the madness? WTF is that supposed to mean?
If affordable high horsepower FR's are madness, then have me committed.

Baka Sama
02-13-2007, 03:18 PM
Engine 2.4-liter gasoline World Engine
Maximum Power 172 hp SAE (128 kW) @ 6000 rpm
Maximum Torque 165 lb-ft (224 N-m) @ 4400 rpm
Transmission Six-speed manual
Drivetrain Rear-wheel drive
Overall Length 156.5 in (3974 mm)
Overall Width (max. @ body) 68.3 in (1736 mm)
Overall Height 51.8 in (1315 mm)
Wheelbase 95.6 in (2429 mm)
Overhang, Front 30.6 in (777 mm)
Overhang, Rear 30.3 in (769 mm)
Curb Weight (estimated) 2600 lb (1179 kg)
Wheel Size 19 x 8 in
Outer Diameter 25.2 in (640 mm)
Exterior Color Bright Amber Pearl
Interior Color Carbon Black

I think the cars hot!! +1

heres a better picture:
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/02/autoblog_dodgedemon_000_450.jpg

Taniguchi_Is_#1
02-13-2007, 03:24 PM
that view. it looks like the love child of an s2k and a 350z.

OptionZero
02-13-2007, 03:40 PM
i don't care if it's faster than the new gt-r, it's ugly as sin

chibo
02-13-2007, 03:51 PM
i don't care if it's faster than the new gt-r, it's ugly as sin
What would give you the idea that it's faster/quicker than the new GT-R?

OptionZero
02-13-2007, 04:46 PM
I suggest you re-read that statement with sarcasm detectors on.

Consider a similar example:
I don't care if that bitch is a left-wing commie environmentalist hippie, I'm gonna bang her.

chibo
02-13-2007, 04:50 PM
I suggest you re-read that statement with sarcasm detectors on.

Consider a similar example:
I don't care if that bitch is a left-wing commie environmentalist hippie, I'm gonna bang her.
My sarcasm detector is broken today :love: :hsdance: Oh, and your second example... that isn't sarcasm to me, I'd hit that shit as long as her mouth was taped shut :fawk:

exitspeed
02-13-2007, 04:51 PM
Yes, keep'em coming. More, more!

The 3/4 view there really makes it look like and S2k. The rear fender though is just tits. No two ways about it. Tits are involved.

OptionZero
02-13-2007, 04:59 PM
Dodge Demon = bad ugly

TVR Sagaris = awesome ugly

http://www.mcarsweb.com/tvr/sagaris.jpg

SimpleSexy180
02-13-2007, 05:30 PM
^love TEH cambers.

but really, cars like the DEMON will push forward the idea for a japanese affordable RWD car..

Taniguchi_Is_#1
02-13-2007, 05:36 PM
^love TEH cambers.

but really cars like the DEMON will push forward the idea for a japanese affordable RWD car..


like the return of an s-chassis? oh baby.............:aw:

FaLKoN240
02-13-2007, 05:39 PM
i don't care if it's faster than the new gt-r, it's ugly as sin

I agree, it's cool that people are making more RWDs, but the design is going WAYYYYY in the wrong direction. They need to hire the designers that made cars from 1992-1998.

All this wannabe futuristic BS makes me sick.

Zero-Offset
02-13-2007, 05:43 PM
hehe its a mini viper!

Silverbullet
02-13-2007, 05:46 PM
i think it looks totally bad ass. I would rock one in 10 years when they are cheap enough to be drift cars.

You guys just need to face the fact that our 240s are going to be what "old" cars look like. In case you all didn't notice, all new cars are starting to become really crazy looking.

DRFT180
02-13-2007, 06:23 PM
As soon as I saw it, the headlights look like they were pulled right off of the new EVO X

ZX88
02-13-2007, 06:26 PM
why are all these companies making roadsters :ghey:

Yuri
02-13-2007, 06:33 PM
I agree, it's cool that people are making more RWDs, but the design is going WAYYYYY in the wrong direction. They need to hire the designers that made cars from 1992-1998.

All this wannabe futuristic BS makes me sick.
1992-1998 was the biggest time of wannabe futuristic bs.
late 90's Intrepid anyone?
Design is finally going in the right direction in my opinion.
Moving away from that stupid overthick beltline and crushed DLO, and getting back to decent proportions.
The pic I posted is way nicer than the on road pic.
The Demon appears to have a bulbous nose to meet European pedestrian safety requirements.

As for the TVR posted, yes it looks awesome, and yes it is super ugly. Nothing on that car is resolved, and most details are just horrible, but it still manages to look purposeful. It's obvious that TVR has never had someone with a design degree do their cars in the history of the company.

A trend I've noticed is that average car enthusiests never like a new design when it first comes out, but it eventually grows on them.
The Demon is so much better looking than the GM Kappa platforms, but I'll have to say the Kabura still is my favorite.

alexchanman
02-13-2007, 07:58 PM
i like the specs, not so much the car itself.

ManoNegra
02-13-2007, 09:05 PM
^^ Agree Yuri, lot of new cars bug me for a while and eventually I growl to either like them or in the very least not be repulsed by them.

ciGARRETTsRbad4u
02-13-2007, 09:12 PM
Does anyone have a price tag on this thing?

looking at the specs and the car, the s2000 still looks alot better unless the price tag is alot lower.

EchoOfSilence
02-14-2007, 12:02 PM
I actually kinda like it. it doesn't look that bad, for a dodge

but for SURE i thought it was just a chop of an s2000.

Wei240
02-14-2007, 12:11 PM
it's the grill that's hideous, otherwise, it's not bad...

wootwoot
02-14-2007, 12:16 PM
All Iam is gonna say is bring on the hatchbacks you fuckin bitch ass car manufacturers.

SochBAT
02-14-2007, 12:19 PM
Reminds me of a charger grill, and the headlights need to be reworked to flow better with the soft body and soft lines on the car.

Other than that, looks GOLD. I'd rock a roadster anyday.

cmcdougle
02-14-2007, 12:40 PM
1992-1998 was the biggest time of wannabe futuristic bs.
late 90's Intrepid anyone?
Design is finally going in the right direction in my opinion.

I used to rock an Intrepid! They suck.

The FR setup is nice, but it's a Dodge . . . for anybody who hasn't ever owned one, don't.

Some cars come out good, though, and they don't have to grow on you. Some are cool but they have to grow on you, and then some are just ugly. Like an Intrepid.

exitspeed
02-14-2007, 12:41 PM
I used to rock an Intrepid! They suck.

The FR setup is nice, but it's a Dodge . . . for anybody who hasn't ever owned one, don't.

Some cars come out good, though, and they don't have to grow on you. Some are cool but they have to grow on you, and then some are just ugly. Like an Intrepid.


Werd. I'll never own a DC product.

SochBAT
02-14-2007, 03:30 PM
The one car i do really dig, stated by Yuri earlier, is the kabura.

http://www.motorpasion.com/archivos/images/mazda-kabura-01.jpg
For those that don't know, or didn't bother to google.

Looks pretty awesome. I didn't like the futuristic look much, this was the exception.

NewAge = sporty, fun, gas-saving.

CKAMC
02-14-2007, 03:35 PM
some please change that front bumper!!! EWW!!!!

other than that it looks and seems to be ok

cmcdougle
02-14-2007, 05:09 PM
The one car i do really dig, stated by Yuri earlier, is the kabura.

http://www.motorpasion.com/archivos/images/mazda-kabura-01.jpg
For those that don't know, or didn't bother to google.

Looks pretty awesome. I didn't like the futuristic look much, this was the exception.

NewAge = sporty, fun, gas-saving.

I just dropped something that looked like that in the toilet. . .

illvialuver
02-15-2007, 04:28 AM
i think its ugly, im all for high hp rwd,
from the side shot it resemblse a s2k ( kinda)
and the top looks like it was built of the skys platform
but being american mae i bet the interior is made from rubbermade like the srt 4 and chevy cavilier

axiomatik
02-15-2007, 09:41 AM
god that thing is ugly: imitation coutach wheel openings, imitation C2 corvette cove on the sides, cheap looking rear fenders, constipated looking back end, unsalvageable front end, awkward front fenders, beltline is too high, making the wheels look tiny, and the name is stupid. only thing going for it are the specs. It looks like a throw-away design from the bad days of alfa romeo design with a dodge grill tacked on. Anyone else tired of seeing that stupid 'crosshairs' grill slathered on everything?

edit: whoop, forgot to check if that site would allow outside linking to pics

theicecreamdan
02-15-2007, 09:58 AM
that's american aerodynamics. If the air has a target... it will flow there, and then make it to the radiator.

Yuri
02-15-2007, 10:13 AM
[QUOTE=nbrindley]

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/9-dodge-demon-concept.jpg
[QUOTE]

That's the biggest freaking X I've ever seen.

But yeah, I hate the crosshairs.

xcusememisswyn
02-15-2007, 10:15 AM
All these roadsters are a cool idea, but in the end the s2000 takes the cake. I have driven the solstice, skye, miata, and boxster, but me and my dad just checked out an s2000 for his retirement gift to himself, it was the most fun and well setup car i have ever been in. The car carves the road up, and everything from the seats to the climate control are setup perfect to rip the car around

the dodge looks ok, not anything i would want tho

bardabe
02-15-2007, 04:30 PM
ewwwwww..... what happened to the I6 pottential. =[

Baka Sama
03-10-2007, 01:38 PM
A 2nd look at the Dodge Demon. Making its appearance at the Geneva show, the Demon is almost production ready. We all know the specs but Road and Track finally hinted at the price... 5k less than a base miata or solstice.. 15,000.00!!!!! :bigok: Although its not faster than a S2000 or Sky, you cant argue with that kinda price! And knowing dodge it will have nice after market support. I think we all need to take a second look...

http://autosport.clix.pt/users/admin_dir/d08a7404.jpeg

Tenchuu
03-10-2007, 01:56 PM
A 2nd look at the Dodge Demon. Making its appearance at the Geneva show, the Demon is almost production ready. We all know the specs but Road and Track finally hinted at the price... 5k less than a base miata or solstice.. 15,000.00!!!!! :bigok: Although its not faster than a S2000 or Sky, you cant argue with that kinda price! And knowing dodge it will have nice after market support. I think we all need to take a second look...

http://autosport.clix.pt/users/admin_dir/d08a7404.jpeg


as long as i can rock a decent after market front bumper, and possible good after market rear over fenders, that car would be sound.

drift freaq
03-10-2007, 02:07 PM
i think it looks totally bad ass. I would rock one in 10 years when they are cheap enough to be drift cars.

You guys just need to face the fact that our 240s are going to be what "old" cars look like. In case you all didn't notice, all new cars are starting to become really crazy looking.
lol, what is it with kids these days. you guys like the ugliest shit that comes down the tubes. "240's are old"!Wow, hello, earth to Silverbullet, where have you been. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.
"New cars starting to become really crazy looking". LOL you obviously have not followed car design in the last 60 years. New cars are just getting ugly not crazy looking.

'90RPS13
03-10-2007, 02:10 PM
I would rock the Demon. Looks bad as fuck.

DreamN
03-10-2007, 02:21 PM
as long as i can rock a decent after market front bumper, and possible good after market rear over fenders, that car would be sound.

^ ditto. it's got potential for sure. the rear just reminds me of how dogs rear ends look when they scratch their ass on carpets.

If I were in the market for a roadster though, I'd still go for a 1st gen miata :2f2f: Nothing like 2,300 lbs of top down fun in the canyons :D

exitspeed
03-10-2007, 04:38 PM
LOL you obviously have not followed car design in the last 60 years. New cars are just getting ugly not crazy looking.

You state that so "matter of fact".

SimpleSexy180
03-10-2007, 04:47 PM
as a fatter of mact i like the demon. Itll look hard with some nice wheels on it, plus it is cheap. So +1 for america.

clutch kick drifter
03-10-2007, 05:05 PM
i love it! Everyones got there own oponion though.

articdragon192
03-10-2007, 05:34 PM
I wonder how the fit and finish will be in it. I've driven many newer American cars and the interior quality isn't there. I dunno, that car doesn't do it for me. I'd rather get a Sky Redline.

cmcdougle
03-10-2007, 06:22 PM
I'd rather get a Geo Metro.

exitspeed
03-10-2007, 06:39 PM
I wonder how the fit and finish will be in it. I've driven many newer American cars and the interior quality isn't there. I dunno, that car doesn't do it for me. I'd rather get a Sky Redline.

GM's interior's and fit and finish have gotten better by leaps and bounds over the last year. Sit in a new Aura once. Some have said it's probably GM's best interior ever.

The Sky though (pre Aura) has terrible interior IMO. I'd buy one with out hesitation. Bu the position of the window switches is nearly unforgivable.

chmercer
03-10-2007, 09:24 PM
isnt it just a crossfire with different panels

fromxtor
03-10-2007, 09:59 PM
Looks like a S2k and a viper had a baby, I think it looks promising.

ronmcdon
03-11-2007, 03:39 AM
15k is a bit optimistic, but that'll be a good deal if such is the case.
apart from the cargo room, it'll be a great daily beater!
if there will be a hardtop for it, then all the better. :)

D1champ
03-11-2007, 04:17 AM
If they used the front lights from the charger too I wouldn't look so aweful.

130sx
03-11-2007, 08:38 PM
why are all these companies making roadsters :ghey:

I don't get it either...it's like you can get a fixed roof FWD or a convertible RWD...where's the happy medium???

I just started to like some new cars (the original 350z design not the new slightly restyled look with the gay hood, evo VIII, 02-03 WRX, first body style STI) and then everything starts to look like ass again...WTF

A RWD with a nice fastback/hatchback would be great...long hood and lightweight. Nothing special inside, just a clean interior with decent gauge setup/controls. How hard is that?

420sx
03-11-2007, 08:45 PM
FOR THE PRICE and fr is fuckin hot. and aftermarket will be huge i bet... it a fucking dodge lol

axiomatik
03-12-2007, 11:24 AM
isnt it just a crossfire with different panels

not for $15,000. crossfire is based on previous generation mercedes slk. no way they could make money at that price if it used slk mechanicals.