Forza 2

[Dunkee]

For those that can't wait till 2008/GT5 the grass is green over on the 360. Due out in May..Enjoy.

http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/762/762865/forza-motorsport-2-20070208013043227.jpg
http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/762/762865/forza-motorsport-2-20070208013041571.jpg

Couple more here..
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/762/762865p1.html

[0100]

Yeah I have been watching the forza forums. The game looks like pure sex!

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

i thought the first forza was pretty weak. looks like the same formula for this one: graphics look good, gameplay is poop.

[Dunkee]

:confused: I thought it was the other way around? Better sim better drifting more customizing. The only thing that sucked was the cartoony graphics.

[rainier]

ahhh booooo i just sold my 360 haha. damn. oh well 640 bucks in my POCKET!! whooooo

[TheSquidd]

They just cut down on a lot of tracks, which really really sucks, but Forza was ALWAYS > GT.

Forza had it all:
Multiplayer
Damage
Customization
Physics

Gt had...
Cars
More Cars
Lots of Tracks

Forza wins hands down, and I really look forward to this new one.

[WILDACEX187]

forza owns gt period. oh the nights of being in first to be rammed from behind by sum asshole on the last lap are priceless lmaoo

[SimpleSexy180]

I CANT WAIT. I spent soo many days and nights on forza 1.

[allmotorking]

i can't wait...i've played gran turismo all my life but looking forward to forza 2 on my new 360.

latest report is 12 tracks with 47 different configurations...they will have more cars and tracks downloadable in the future which will be cool but probably not free...

[Dunkee]

T10 pounding on Sony..talking bout force feedback (and Sony's lack of) + wheel

http://forzamotorsport.net/NR/rdonlyres/B0BACF6B-564E-4328-A4CB-DC90F6FCD3AA/7583/cockpit.jpg

http://forzamotorsport.net/forcefeedback.htm

[pignose4life]

dammit there better be an s13 in this one i hated the s14 in forza =[

[allmotorking]

T10 pounding on Sony..talking bout force feedback (and Sony's lack of) + wheel

http://forzamotorsport.net/NR/rdonlyres/B0BACF6B-564E-4328-A4CB-DC90F6FCD3AA/7583/cockpit.jpg

http://forzamotorsport.net/forcefeedback.htm


wow...that was a really good article that talks about force feedback and rumble.

i just got my microsoft wheel and have been playing test drive unlimited lately.

[extra-made garage]

T10 pounding on Sony..talking bout force feedback (and Sony's lack of) + wheel

http://forzamotorsport.net/NR/rdonlyres/B0BACF6B-564E-4328-A4CB-DC90F6FCD3AA/7583/cockpit.jpg

http://forzamotorsport.net/forcefeedback.htm
I wanna jump on one of these bad!!, after I get a 360.

[Dunkee]

Nice side by side..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/vk-fallen/comp.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/764/764982/forza-motorsport-2-20070215095059023-000.jpg
Not too shaby

[Yuri]

Road america better be coming back.

I wish some game would have Horsetheif mile.

[exitspeed]

The rims are what's killing it for me in those pics.

[ThatGuy]

The rims are what's killing it for me in those pics.
Pssssh. Everyone knows that wheels COMPLETELY dissappear over 35mph. :duh:
(/sarcasm)

[Dunkee]

Graphically it's no Gran Turismo but it's not bad. I started playing Forza 1 when I got my 360 a couple months ago and realized it's much more entertaining. 4wd cars behave the way they're supposed to, as well as FF..RR drifted all whole lot but it was fun. And the customizing killed many hours. I honestly thought GT4 looked beautiful but could only play it for 2 months (and I bought the wheel!). I wouldn't judge Forza 2 solely on it's looks..it has a lot going for it. It's actually the only reason I got off the Sony wagon.

[TheSquidd]

Forza definitely isn't about the graphics, it's about just making driving simulators fun again. Something GT seems to have forgotten.

[exitspeed]

I wasn't sayin git looks bad by any stretch of the imagination. I was just saying that was one of things that made it clear that it was CG vs real life.

I'm definitely looking forward to this game.

[Dunkee]

Oh..naw that was just a pic that someone throw up on the forums trying to explain that the lighting could be better.

BTW check out the show..Looks badass! Feb.21 on Speed

Vid (http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/6/0/260f631f-b607-46f0-8947-317db9d2a5b9/FORZA_30_FINAL.mov)

http://forzamotorsport.net/NR/rdonlyres/316EC422-0F4A-4052-8E26-6E4DE4EB85A4/7650/IMG_5106.jpg

More info here
http://forzamotorsport.net/showdown/default.htm

[Silverbullet]

i absolutly can't wait. Forza is the best racing game out there hands down. Its graphics aren't as great as GT4 but w/e. The physics i felt were more realistic. The only thing that bugged me is when you touch a wall, it would stick a little too hard... but who knows, i've never actually tapped walls that hard in real life. I have a ton of Xbox 360 games, but they all collect dust... Forza is the only game i play on it haha.

[allmotorking]

Forza definitely isn't about the graphics, it's about just making driving simulators fun again. Something GT seems to have forgotten.

agreed, something about the gameplay of GT that is just boring after a while.

[ciGARRETTsRbad4u]

The game play in forza isnt really that great
I dont understand how everone likes the physics in forza.
I would choose gt over forza anyday

[cfrost]

The game play in forza isnt really that great
I dont understand how everone likes the physics in forza.


mostly because they're realistic and fun :hs:

[SimpleSexy180]

^got em coach!

[Full-Lock]

gt4 was fun for a little bit. but it just got lame because its one of those games that started feeling like work. (Crazy Taxi FTW!!)

forza 2 will impress im sure

[ciGARRETTsRbad4u]

mostly because they're realistic and fun :hs:

Realistic?
Gt4 and forza are two of the MOST realistic games out there, but they are not that realistic.

rwd cars doing 100mph zero counter drifts?

[hendogg8]

I too can not wait until Forza 2...(and Stranglehold, but that's another story). I probably won't buy my 360 until then.

I really do hope that the physics are the same, if not improved over Forza 1. I was a long time fan of the GT francise, but after I played Forza 1, I could not go back. The physics, especially oversteer are far more realistic than GT4.

Here's a prime example, trying to do a 180* turn from standstill. In either game, put your FR car in neutral, and hold the rev's high. Then, lock the wheels in a direction and drop it into first. In Forza, you rear tires will light up and your shit will whip around so quickly, you better be ready to countersteer. Similar to what would happen in real life. But, in GT4, the car will counterintuitively understeer through a huge radius u-turn. Hardly realistic. What's even funnier is that the rear tires also light up, suggesting loss of traction in the rear....key word, suggesting.

I also like how the physics engine in Forza 1 allowed you to throttle steer some cars too, and it's all progressive, as opposed to GT4.

It's too bad I didn't see the 599 GTB and Veyron on the euro car list for Forza2.

[cfrost]

Realistic?
Gt4 and forza are two of the MOST realistic games out there, but they are not that realistic.

rwd cars doing 100mph zero counter drifts?

OH SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT! you know what else! it's not realistic because i dont feel wind in my face when the car is sideways and I don't have to change my tires after 400 laps and when I hit the wall at 140mph I don't really die.

Forza is (here we go, ready for this? the next word is for you) more realistic than a host of other games because the ways that cars reaction to throttle, throwing them around, ebrake acts like it really should, and the settings are fun to play with. I always hated Gran Turismo becuase the oversteer physics always felt stupid. In forza, if you turn in and control your throttle well it'll do a pretty drift. of course the counter-steer isn't dead on (you don't need too much of it), but I like it that way because I have an X-box controller that doesn't have the precision of a steering wheel in a car. its a good balance, keep it fun and keep it more realistic than others :hsdance:

[Dunkee]

I really do hope that the physics are the same, if not improved over Forza 1. I was a long time fan of the GT francise, but after I played Forza 1, I could not go back. The physics, especially oversteer are far more realistic than GT4.

Forza's new physics track weight and inertia for clutch, tranny, crank, driveline, flywheel as well as wheel widths, rim model and rim size. I'm hoping they also let us choose the wheel widths and size..

[hendogg8]

Forza's new physics track weight and inertia for clutch, tranny, crank, driveline, flywheel as well as wheel widths, rim model and rim size. I'm hoping they also let us choose the wheel widths and size..

Yeah, I just read that update from them.

The new upgrade system sounds fantastic. It puts much more emphasis on tuning efficiently.

It seems like we'll have the opportunity to modifiy all those parameters you mentioned, so it's a safe bet that we'll have a choice of wheel widths and diameter. I guess a lot of people (myself included) must have wrote that in, when the Forza team was asking for input from the community. It's nice to see that they are serious on catering to their fanbase and trying to make their game the best racing simulator around.

[TheSquidd]

Q: Sounds like the granularity gives players a finer game of resource management and allocation. What else have you guys added to the car upgrades system?

DG: We’ve also added several new upgrade types, especially in the engine area. For example, we’ve split out engine block upgrades and top half upgrades. Engine block upgrades increase the engine durability, decrease its inertia and provide mild power increases, while cam and valve upgrades raise the redline, radically change the audio and skew the engine curve toward high RPM horsepower.

Q: And of course we can still do engine swaps…

DG: Yes. In the original Forza Motorsport, players could engine swap within a given manufacturer. For example, you could drop a Skyline engine into the Silvia. For "Like" damage and customization, this was no small licensing feat. So what’s new here for Forza 2? Well, we’ve added roughly 100 more engine swaps for even more cars. That’s cool, but by far the coolest new upgrade is the powertrain swap. Yup, that’s right. Now, you can not only swap out the powerplant, you can even put in a new drivetrain. For example, ever want to put an AWD Lancer EVO drivetrain into a FWD Eclipse? Now you can – only in Forza Motorsport 2 of course!

From www.forzamotorsport.net

[KiDyNomiTe]

I never owned an xbox 180, but looking foward to forza 2.

[WILDACEX187]

oh no dont tell me im going to be racing rear wheel drive civics online?!?!?

[TheSquidd]

I will destroy you with my FF R34.

[hendogg8]

Hahaha, this is gonna be awesome. I forsee a lot of frankenstein cars.

Enzo with 4AGZE and 14x11J Watanabe, bring it.

[Yuri]

I'll take a Subaru 360 with a 1953 Chrysler Firepower Hemi V8 hanging out of a sawz-alld hole in the rear, and 13x10's with R-compounds, thankyou.

[Dunkee]

New pics
http://www.forzacentral.com/gallery/files/4/8/sim-forza2-0047.jpg
http://www.forzacentral.com/gallery/files/4/8/sim-forza2-0046.jpg
http://www.forzacentral.com/gallery/files/4/8/sim-forza2-0045.jpg
http://www.forzacentral.com/gallery/files/4/8/sim-forza2-0044.jpg
No more poking fun at the rims!

[Dunkee]

Anybody catching the show tonight?

[hendogg8]

show...??

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[LB.Motoring]

IM picking up an Xbox 360 tommaro night hopefully!

[Dunkee]

Giving it now on Speed..11PM eastern time. Pretty cool show..they showed a vid of the game too.

[LA_phantom_240]

The dood in the z cant drive worth a damn. He sucks at teh drag racing with a passion.

[markyboi]

now im thinking about buying a 360 just for this game

[Dunkee]

Gushi almost took that Z06 the f*ck out! Can't wait till next week when they modify the cars...for those that missed gotta check it out..

[TheSquidd]

From the preview looks like Gushi put a turbo on that bitch, and the other Z wrecks... Drift should be interesting.

Game looks... well honestly, if it looks the same as Forza 1 and has all these new features, I'll be 100% pleased, but it is nice to see the graphics are a little better. No GT5 by far, but then again GT5 has no variables and can have amazing graphics because the processing power used to calculate the advanced physics, multiplayer, damage etc in Forza 2 is absent in the GT series and thus it's all just used to power those beautiful graphics.

When it all comes down to it, I think Forza 2 will be awesomely entertaining, and not hard on the eyes. The reflections have improved DRAMATICALLY from the shots taken last week. BMW in game alone makes me want this game bad.

[Dunkee]

Yeah I'm pumped! Forzamotorsport.net just got revamped lovely. Now when you log on you see your gamer profile..even your gamer pic. From there you can view pics that you take ingame, view status of cars your selling, view your tournaments, rank and the site just looks much cooler. They got a good thing going and graphics are the least of my worries (though I still wish it would kill GT but w e).

Oh from the show, thought it was Z06 but just C6. I know Gushi got some credits so he's gonna benefit in modifying the Z..but so does Cope and Meier so I'm confused how it's gonna play out?

[aa87]

I would be playing it since feb 1, but god damn release date keeps gettin pushed back.

Hopefully they wont pull a GT4 and rape us with no drift and online like polyphony said.

[Thorpedo]

i played gt throughout the entire series religiously. then i played enthusia, now i only play enthusia pretty much. forza is good but only because of features and options. i wasnt impressed by the physics at all, but i havnt played with a wheel so that may be it. enthusia is the most impressive physics wise by far.

[allmotorking]

wow they added a ton of new features to forzamotorsport.net you'll be able to upload your pics from the game and share w/ friends...be interested to see how this works out.

[WILDACEX187]

when is the game suppose to be released? i go on xbl everyday to check for the demo lol

[Dunkee]

May no date though. I'm hoping next month that demo will be on there.

[Dunkee]

I sure most have been following all the GDC coverage but those who haven't here are some quick links.

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19676

for the graphic whores

http://www.gametrailers.com/downloadnew.php?id=17540

It's shaping up lovely :bigok:

[WILDACEX187]

hott :bow: :D

[exitspeed]

I'm working on my cockpit this weekend. I have an S13 Cloth seat, and I'll be getting the wheel (but I'll be using my GT4 wheel to make the set-up for now) too. I'll post some pics of it after this weekend depending on how far I get.

[Dunkee]

I remember for GT4 I put all this time and effort to make me a cockpit..I had prepped testing it w/ Prologue but when GT4 came out I barely used it?! I even got a set of surround sound speakers and put them in the chair to feel the rumble from the engine. I think I had more fun building the cockpit then playing the game. I'm going crazy watching these 3 screen Forza vids..they look so f'n nice! They even got a fourth mini screen for the rear view mirror?!

[Dunkee]

Dropping bombs of info

new pics

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/771/771053/forza-motorsport-2-20070307112919571.jpg
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/771/771053/forza-motorsport-2-20070307112921102.jpg

They said they're still working on the drivers..they still look forza 1

[exitspeed]

I remember for GT4 I put all this time and effort to make me a cockpit..I had prepped testing it w/ Prologue but when GT4 came out I barely used it?! I even got a set of surround sound speakers and put them in the chair to feel the rumble from the engine. I think I had more fun building the cockpit then playing the game. I'm going crazy watching these 3 screen Forza vids..they look so f'n nice! They even got a fourth mini screen for the rear view mirror?!

Yea, it's more about building it then anything. It'll be pretty inconvenient to use for a while. But later this year I'll be building a game room and rec room in my lower level and the cockpit will be smack dab in the middle right in front of a 80" projector screen.

[allmotorking]

Yea, it's more about building it then anything. It'll be pretty inconvenient to use for a while. But later this year I'll be building a game room and rec room in my lower level and the cockpit will be smack dab in the middle right in front of a 80" projector screen.

man, i am jealous....here is my current setup playing test drive unlimited on 360

http://www.apartment107.com/office/pic04.jpg

[exitspeed]

^
Don't be too jealous. I have to do 2 bathroom remodels at the house before I get to do the fun rec room/game room stuff.

I am a master of patience.

[The_Reaper]

Does anyone know if it will come out on pc?

[Dunkee]

No not coming out for pc..but there is always rfactor.