ebay oil pan

[EJ253]

hows the fitment on these? any issues at all?
im not really down to spend 300 on a greddy one. these seem really similar.

and do i need a gasket also for the install?

thanks,
Greg


search isnt working for me, sorry if this is a topic that gets covered all the time

[Dousan_PG]

junk
i know people with it
regret it
sold and got a greddy pan
also heard from some friends it leaked.

[S.ONE.THREE]

junk
i know people with it
regret it
sold and got a greddy pan
also heard from some friends it leaked.
I rocked it for a long time, never had any probs with it, but if you have the cash just get the real thing so you dont have to stress.

[UNITEDMASTER]

Hello its kinda a toss up,some work with no problems and some are pure junk. The casting is very rough,leakers,I have seen some crack,due to poor casting.

[qwikspool]

just get the real deal. you get what you pay for.

[Ian]

I've heard 2 things


1. it leaks through the pores haha

2. holes don't line up

[steve shadows]

junk
i know people with it
regret it
sold and got a greddy pan
also heard from some friends it leaked.


yep went for real greddy too..

Screw any possible casting screw ups when it comes to MY oil system.

[coupelove626]

i got an OEM one for SR if you want it. $80 shipped! ITS BRAND NEW....was going to install it, but RND help me fix mine.

[s13speeddrft]

It is a shoot and miss with the ebay ones...some leak some don't. You may get lucky but in the end you get what you pay for.

[corey240]

i think he wants a different one because he now knows the stock one is too small and how horrible our stock oil system truely is. but hey! im thinking of making my own. has anyone els done this? have pics of it and what happend?

[wootwoot]

Mine LEAKED DIRECTLY THROUGH THE CASTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



THROUGH THE CASTING

THROUGH THE GOD DANG CASTING IN THE CENTER OF THE PAN

3 days later had a Greddy pan, no problems evaaaaa. Someone is still using it on a different motor(the Greddy not the garbage)
Tried to patch it with a bunch of different stuff but after it had oil go through it nothing was happening. Save the time/money/pissedoffness.

The holes lined up pretty good though, in tolerance so you still fit all the bolts in.

[Flybert]

Leaks through the casting pores. Real greddy or OEM.

[mooboy]

Yeah whats wrong with oem?

[8kred]

shitty...........

[corey240]

Yeah whats wrong with oem?
its way too small...

[DSDperformance]

Do not buy the ebay one. They are junk! I have heard of them cracking under high temps and that the holes don't line up at all. My advice is like everyone else . . . you get what you pay for and when it comes to your car do not cut corners. Would be a shame to see your car blown up and sitting all to save a few hundred dollars.

[Dousan_PG]

wow for once i was right

going cheap on the car.
always a bad move
i have a greddy pan and custom cooler setup w/ setrab and an lines
shit wasnt near anything for cheap
but at the track, its the last thing i worry about.

piece of mind goes a long way.

[!Zar!]

It's cheaper buying a greddy oil pan than it is to buy/rebuild a new engine...

[driftstyre]

We had a customer supply us with an ebay oil pan for his newly built motor and the casting was so bad it blocked the oil pickup and would only build 20 psi on initial startup. The pan was taken off and the "0" shape oil pick up opening was imprinted on the inside pan surface. A factory pan was installed and pressure was fine. The castings I have seen on both the knock off greddy oil pans and intake manifolds are so bad, yet the greddy ones are perfect. Its worth the extra money for that much better quality in material, fitment etc.

[timtiminy]

i just got a used freddy pan. doesnt seem that bad casting wise. i just scrubbed it really good after cleaning all the old oil off with gasoline. i havent gotten a chance to fit it on to the motor yet but it was on another SR they took it off because of ground clearance so i picked it up. there is some stuff called microseal that seals porus castings I may use this just for peace of mind but I seriously doubt that it will leak through, the casting isnt that porus. There may be really bad ones out there but the one i got doesnt look bad at all. actually it looks pretty good. I can take some pictures and post them if anyone wants to see.

[McRussellPants]

only problem with greddy is legit sway bars don't bolt to the oem location.

[foolishdrift]

Personally I'm running a "freedy" ebay knock off, I believe its from the same company that makes the knock off greedy intakes, Topspeed. It was the slightly more expensive knock off, a little over $130 IIRC. This is actually a pretty good pan for the money, the casting isn't as great as the a real greddy (though close from the pics I've seen of the greddy ones) but its fine for what it is and doesn't leak from the casting at all. The only problem I've faced so far is a slight leak from one of the bolts when the car is sitting, however I'm looking into fixing that. So overall I must say that I think the higher end knock offs are decent for the price, I don't regret going this route and saving a couple hundred bucks is always nice.

[Dousan_PG]

only problem with greddy is legit sway bars don't bolt to the oem location.

aftermaeket yet
stock is cool
i might get largus
shave off the corner and reweld my greddy pan
but stock sways is fine w/ me. no complaints.

[jobestudios]

I can't understand how people think these companies are making the products so cheap. Greddy's cost is not as cheap as this shit, you want to know why? Because they use quality material and they research and develop their parts instead of looking at a premade product and figuring out how they can cut corners to save money. But oh well, I suppose these companies will always be able to market to the dumbasses who think the longer the modification list, the more hp there is.

A prime example of a well built car is the Mines GT-R, did they replace every single part on the car? Fuck no, they kept as much stuff OEM as they could and look at that beast.

[GreekRPS13]

just get the real deal....

[s13coupedrfter]

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones because I got the knockoff pan and I've never had a problem with it. Some of the complaints sound like bad installation practices (not cleaning mating surfaces well before seal application). But as for the poor castings, thats another story.

[usdm180sx]

I should add that even the Greddy pan has its flaws. The threads on the oil drain plug are too thin and they will strip very easily. A good fix is to bore out the hole with a coarser pitch and a bigger bolt. This will minimize the chance of stripping the threads. Otherwise it's a good oil pan. The hinged baffles are trick.

[s13gold]

but what is wrong with the stock one?????

[jobestudios]

for some reason it doesnt hold enough oil when they drift past the supermarket I guess...

[usdm180sx]

but what is wrong with the stock one?????

Yeah whats wrong with oem?

its way too small...

The bottom of the stock pan sits way too close to the oil pickup tube and if it gets dented it could starve the motor of oil. That and the stock oil pan has no baffles.

[McRussellPants]

for some reason it doesnt hold enough oil when they drift past the supermarket I guess...

easy there poor boy, don't get grumpy because you can't afford the parts to make your motor last.


aftermaeket yet
stock is cool
i might get largus
shave off the corner and reweld my greddy pan
but stock sways is fine w/ me. no complaints.

Kuah was saying you can fit them by spacing the sway bar down or something.

Which sounds like a bad plan for me since it would be subterranian.

When I get Largus I'll prolly space them forward somehow, theres plenty of room forward of the bars to do so

[EJ253]

thanks for the info guys :)

im planning on going with a greddy pan. do i need to buy a gasket for inbetween the new greddy pan and the upper pan???

ive got aftermarket whiteline front and rear swaybars, should i just go with another OEM pan? theyre like 85 bucks from enjuku...

thanks again,
Greg

[Slidin240Wayz]

Greg,
Check the FSM, you need to apply liquid gasket and you will find out where in the FSM.

Carlos

[EJ253]

The hinged baffles are trick.

what do ya mean?

Greg,
Check the FSM, you need to apply liquid gasket and you will find out where in the FSM.

Carlos

thanks buddy. ill check that out

[05civse]

they keep oil from flowing all to one side during cornering where you could have the potential for the pick-up to not be immersed in oil. the aftermarket pans are bigger, like +1 quart so you have more oil giving you potentially cooler temps., more fresh oil because of the ratio of crap the oil collects and overall volume, along with longer life... to a certain extent.

[white97s14]

go real deal or stock

[EJ253]

if i can get some pics or somethign of the pan on someones car that has aftermarket swaybars thatd be good

[SC_S13]

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/february02/images/mv2.jpg

thats not a greddy pan, but i think its exactly the shape.

[fabiuccio]

uhm....a question

do u think is really functional the fitment of an uprated oil pan??

why the stock one would be generate any problems?

I know that the OEM stock are so small....but is REALLY a problem?

[HKsilvia]

using ebay oil pan = bring your car to jiffy lube for oil change...
not every of them sux, but will u wanna take the risk?

im using oem, thinking of changing to greddy, but not sure if its worth changing or not, im running stock sr anyways.

[BLITZZZ]

using ebay oil pan = bring your car to jiffy lube for oil change...
not every of them sux, but will u wanna take the risk?

im using oem, thinking of change to greddy, but not sure if its worth changing or not, im running stock sr anyways.


you need to reread what you typed and retype it so it makes sense

[usdm180sx]

uhm....a question

do u think is really functional the fitment of an uprated oil pan??

why the stock one would be generate any problems?

I know that the OEM stock are so small....but is REALLY a problem?

The question was answered a few posts above. Just read the whole thread and you'll see it.

[HKsilvia]

you need to reread what you typed and retype it so it makes sense

bah...i dun do proof readin much, besides my eng sux :p

[steve shadows]

oooooooooooooooooooooooook


well just go greddy or stay stock.

just hammet your center of your pan as flat as possible and upgrade you oil pick when possible to late model one if you have older sr (redtop)

the saucer tends to just break at random.

[liv2drift045]

just hammer your center of your pan as flat as possible

are you serious... thats half the reason people replace them is to get rid of the dent

hope you were kidding... maybe i suck at sarcasm

i had a knockoff in my sil-80 and it was fine... had been fine for almost 2 years... daily driving and track driving... but i will agree that buying one is taking a shot in teh dark... mine came on teh car... and i was too lazy to swap it out... that i and i have replacement motor(s) so......

[McRussellPants]

Tomei > Greddy > ARC > whatever else you're gonna buy.


pick your poision.

[byhi]

Tomei > Greddy > ARC > whatever else you're gonna buy.


pick your poision.


cardboard mother fucker!!


no but really guys, honestly, its always good to go with the safe/best rated bet, this is just common sense even though we need reminders everynow and then!

in fact, if i owned an SR20 i would be weary of the methods of casting involved in the cheaper made pieces, theres a reason life happens

[blownoffvalve]

just becareful with those ebay deals

[timtiminy]

i dont know if you all have seen the new, updated greddy oil pan. basically the same thing as the old one except new casting logos and the main difference being there is now a deppression where the oil pickup is, so that leads me to believe that the knockoffs werent the only pans with the problem of the oil pickup hitting the bottom of the pan, it seems that even the real greddy oil pans must have had the problem as well in order for them to make a casting change. that and im sure its give buyers an extra incentive to buy the real greddy pans, at least for now till the knockoffs start catch up and copy the new greddy design. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e273/timtiminy/greddyoilpan.jpg
anyhow on a side note i cleaned and sandblasted my knockoff oil pan, i will most likely use a round sanding head to depress the bottom of the pan where the oil pickup is and essentially do the same thing the new casting does. I may also make a 1/8" spacer that will sandwitch between the upper and lower pans to add more clearance for the oil pickup and in doing so it will ad a little more oil volume. i decided im going to get the microseal to seal the casting and make sure it wont leak. only thing i'm lost on is getting the mounting bolts for for the oil pan as they didnt come with the oil pan, anybody know the thread size and lengths? doing all this and it will still cost me less than a genuine greddy pan. worth it...? for me, sure... you...who knows??

[timtiminy]

okay well i just modified the freddy pan i have. figured i would give you the update. used a sanding disc on a drill press, i may go a little bigger and deeper, but right now it depresses about 1/16" and is about 3" diameter. i sand blasted it and put it in my oven at 500*F for 15 min just to burn up any oil that may have worked its way into the casting, thats why there is some burnt oil on the screw holes where the hinged flappers mount. I'm in contact with a few different places where they do casting impregnation to seal porous castings. basically they put the part in a vaccuum and add a resin to the camber and then pressurize the chamber to force the resin into the microscopic pores of the casting, then they pull it out and wash it off, the resin is impregnated into the casting and i'll never have to worry about it leaking through the casting as the chemical resistant resin its good up to 650*F. still getting a cost on that...if it too expensive i'll pass but if its not bad heck i'll send the intake manifold i have too, that is if i dont powder coat it like the nismo ztune gtr's intake manifold. heres the picture of my oil pan
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e273/timtiminy/DSCN2328.jpg

[S14DB]

If you powder coat it you'll loose the cooling benefits.

[timtiminy]

If you powder coat it you'll loose the cooling benefits.
wonder why nismo decided on powder coating the ztune gtr intake manifold then? maybe some type of ceramic powder coat would actually increase the intake manifold's ability to cool down even better...

[S14DB]

No, it keeps the intake manifold from the engine bay heat. Keeping it from heat soaking and heating the intake air.

[timtiminy]

i just got pricing for the cast impregnation $150 for the oil pan, i dont think ill do this becasue of the price...although it is cheaper if there was more than one part to do, perhaps someone else would want to do this and we can split the cost? pm me if interested, otherwise i'll probably to the microseal myself.

[kidswole]

hey I started to take my oil pan off to tap it for an oil return line, got lazy, bolted it back up, drilled the hole and welded the fitting on without taking the pan off. a few shavings, magnetic drain plug, a little leakage, runs good, I just give her a coupla sips of oil now and then and its all good

dont know what that has to do with knock off oil pans but hey, my experience with a little leakage hasn't been bad. as far as knockoffs go, i have learned with anything to do with my car , the real deal is well worth it compared to the agony of ebay junk.(most of the time)

[krazyfil]

well... here is my two cents.. im sure u heard this many times.. but u always get whut u pay for... as far as fitment goes.. no clue.. but u know ebay.. they make things quickly and cheaply just to get as many sold as possible just to make a profit.. so its your call

[theicecreamdan]

wonder why nismo decided on powder coating the ztune gtr intake manifold then? maybe some type of ceramic powder coat would actually increase the intake manifold's ability to cool down even better...

Because the intake manifold doesn't need to be cooled as much as it needs to be kept from being hot. There's a difference.

[timtiminy]

Because the intake manifold doesn't need to be cooled as much as it needs to be kept from being hot. There's a difference. yeah i bought a thermal intake manifold gasket for this reason. hopefully it works well. anyhow. i just spoke to a place about the casting impregnation. basically he said its $150 for my one piece, but if i got up to 10 pieces it would still be $150 so if anyone wants in on this perhaps we can send our oil pans out together and just split the cost.

[usdm180sx]

i just got pricing for the cast impregnation $150 for the oil pan, i dont think ill do this becasue of the price...although it is cheaper if there was more than one part to do, perhaps someone else would want to do this and we can split the cost? pm me if interested, otherwise i'll probably to the microseal myself.

So you're going to pay another $150 for this "microseal." How much did you get your "Freddy" oil pan for?

I got my Greddy pan for $240 with piece of mind, no "microseal" required. I don't think $240 is way out there in terms of price. But if your freddy pan does the job, hey you lucked out.

[redsuns3838]

hey anyone know if theres a aftermarket oil pump as well for SRs? I recall seeing a nismo one available at phase2, but wasnt sure if it was for SR or RB. and I havent seen any oil pumps for SRs offered at any local shops.

[MadScientist]

I heard something on the radio today... I laughted for a while but its sooo true.
"Girls say they want a nice guy and someone that will treat them right, and not cheet, but there is always the loose chics that keep the cheaters and assholes in business"
Now look at the differnce in the quality alone in the 2 Oil pans posted... one is obiously quality while the other is junk... I keep telling you guys... quality over quantity!!
Greddy (good girl)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e273/timtiminy/greddyoilpan.jpg
Feddy ($5 love you long time)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e273/timtiminy/DSCN2328.jpg

Peace
Drew

[s13gold]

nvm...i just corrected myself.

[timtiminy]

So you're going to pay another $150 for this "microseal." How much did you get your "Freddy" oil pan for?

I got my Greddy pan for $240 with piece of mind, no "microseal" required. I don't think $240 is way out there in terms of price. But if your freddy pan does the job, hey you lucked out.

got mine for $50. $150 is for the cast impregnation, if you would have read further back in the thread i stated that the microseal is $50. I would rather do the cast impregnation over the microseal but i dont want to spend $150 on the process as that would put me close to the $240 mark of getting the genuine greddy pan. doing the microseal would only put me at $100 saving myself $140 over getting the greddy pan, and still having peace of mind. Ill let you all know how it goes and what i decided on for leak protection.

[EJ253]

nvm. thx

fdnsjang

[Dirty Habit]

This is a part I would never go cheap on. You get what you pay for, now or later...

[TUnity2]

how do you get bolts in these holes? i dont have a greddy or freddy pan but i'm just wondering.
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/cbrandt/?action=view&current=oilpanhow.jpg

[Matt Cramer]

There's one trick I've seen on another forum. If for some reason you want to make a terrible, porous casting work - either because you're a terminal cheapskate or because you're trying to salvage a rare but badly made part - coat the inside of it with epoxy from a hardware store. It can often patch leaks from porous castings. Much cheaper than spending $150 for some high tech coating on a $100 knock-off part, and if you've got to be ghetto about something, no point in being halfway ghetto.

Me, I'd go with a quality pan. But I thought I'd toss that out anyway.

[axiomatik]

got mine for $50. $150 is for the cast impregnation, if you would have read further back in the thread i stated that the microseal is $50. I would rather do the cast impregnation over the microseal but i dont want to spend $150 on the process as that would put me close to the $240 mark of getting the genuine greddy pan. doing the microseal would only put me at $100 saving myself $140 over getting the greddy pan, and still having peace of mind. Ill let you all know how it goes and what i decided on for leak protection.

you've saved a few bucks, but how many hours of your life have you devoted to making you comfortable with the durability of your oil pan? how much is your time worth to you? I'd rather just buy a quality product from the get go and save the headaches and the hassle.