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shinrekka
01-30-2007, 10:10 PM
Just buy a silvia already imported into canada and as long as it was made before sept 1, 1989 its good to go as is. When the car was imported into canada the vin was changed and a new title issued. It becomes a canadian legal car, cars legal in canada can be imported into the U.S. If it was made before sept 1, 1989 it does not need to be modified in any way to meet U.S standards. So basicly, surf ebay or whatever for a silvia or skyline. Bid, buy it now, do whatever. Drive up there with a flat bed, take car to u.s customs with the canadian title. U.S customs should let it pass. Im pretty sure it can be done that way. You should be able to register it at the dmv and insure it with the canadian issued vin #. Anyone think theres more to it? Im pretty stupid but i was reading on the department of transportation website for awile and came up with this.

PaddingtonBear
01-30-2007, 10:13 PM
Your probably gonna get flamed into the depths of hell, so be prepared.

jspek
01-30-2007, 10:15 PM
^i was thinking the same thing. so what car am i gonna import that was made before sept 1 89? hmmm. did you think about this at all? most of the cars people want to import were made after 89. so yea.

TiNMAN
01-30-2007, 10:18 PM
^hachiroku was the first thing that popped into my head

ALTRNTV
01-30-2007, 10:20 PM
Skylines came to mind.

TiNMAN
01-30-2007, 10:23 PM
freeway speedway!!1

Edgar
01-30-2007, 10:25 PM
tokyo extreme racer zero yoooooo

ALTRNTV
01-30-2007, 10:27 PM
I love that game for some reason. :keke:

shinrekka
01-30-2007, 10:30 PM
Yeh i know im probaly going to get flamed but it be nice for someone to put me in my place before i get to excited. AE86 are very expensive over there, cheaper to get a R32 i think. 240Z's, classic skylines gonna go for probaly 20g and up. S13's came out in 88, ca18's a good motor. R32 skylines were out already. I think if it was made after sept 1, 1989 it was probaly put out as a 90's model. So 89 model year should be ok i think. Im sure theres plenty of neat shit we could dream of importing but never actually do. How about a 200ZR, RB20 in a 87 300ZX mmmmmmm.

Edgar
01-30-2007, 10:31 PM
I love that game for some reason. :keke:

dont we all :bigok:

ALTRNTV
01-30-2007, 10:34 PM
http://image-cache.skylinesaustralia.com/members/golgo/media/kpgc10.jpg

Would be my first choice.

yokotas13
01-30-2007, 10:35 PM
i know a guy here that just got one.
16,000 her ein japan

jspek
01-30-2007, 10:48 PM
http://image-cache.skylinesaustralia.com/members/golgo/media/kpgc10.jpg

Would be my first choice.
touche
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7379/img5658stdsu5.jpg

shinrekka
01-30-2007, 10:51 PM
lotsa money those cars. Those are collector cars in japan. Pricing is similar to our muslce cars. I want to import a Ford Falcon like in Mad Max.

TheTimanator
01-30-2007, 10:52 PM
www.jdmconnection.ca
www.terra2imports.ca
www.importconcern.ca
www.j-specimports.ca/

there's some places that import cars for you in Canada. I had the same idea but it just seems to simple to be true and I don't care enough to try..

drift freaq
01-30-2007, 10:55 PM
lotsa money those cars. Those are collector cars in japan. Pricing is similar to our muslce cars. I want to import a Ford Falcon like in Mad Max.
Mad Max's car was a Holden not a Ford. Holdens are GM Australia.

shinrekka
01-30-2007, 10:58 PM
it was a 1973 ford falcon.

1973 Ford Falcon XB GT Hardtop / Coupe. This was a standard production model available in Australia from 1973 to 1976. Being a GT, it automatically came with a 300bhp 351ci V8, 4V heads, top loader, 9 inch diff - pretty much all the standard XB GT coupe features.

ALTRNTV
01-30-2007, 11:02 PM
"The car started life as a standard 1973 XB GT Ford Falcon Coupe, a car exclusive to Australia."

shinrekka
01-30-2007, 11:07 PM
lol i just read that too

hsoj_v
01-30-2007, 11:30 PM
touche
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7379/img5658stdsu5.jpg

Yeah, I'd perfer the 72' Skyline Fastback too. :hsdance:

soreballz
01-31-2007, 12:12 AM
From what I've heard, JDM cars that have been imported to Canada under the 15 year rule or whatever it is CANNOT be brought into the US legally.

shinrekka
01-31-2007, 08:28 AM
it said they were eligable on the D.O.T website

RISINGSUNPROJECTS
01-31-2007, 10:02 AM
You cannot bring a JDM car in to the United States unless it is on Transportation saftey list. US rules are different that Canadian rules, US has to have a vehicle crash tested and those results have to be approved by the transportation board. In Canada it only has to be 15 yrs or older and you are good to go! I import JDM cars in to Canada and it is a breeze, Unfortunatly US market gets screwed in that respect.

axiomatik
01-31-2007, 12:21 PM
Rules for Importing from Canada (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/VIG_Canada07032.html) <- Clicky

Note: To be imported under Box 2B a motor vehicle must be certified by its original manufacturer as complying with all applicable CMVSS. Certain vehicles that are at least 15 years old that are not so certified can be imported into Canada without restriction. Such vehicles may not be imported into the United States under Box 2B.

exactly what 'imported under Box 2B' means, I am not sure. It doesn't seem like you can import under Box 3 either. Whether or not there are other guidelines, I am not sure.

as for the skylines posted above, if the vehicle is over 25 years old, I don't believe there are any restrictions:
Rules for Importing from Countries other than Canada (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/graymarket_RI_list010807.htm) <- Clicky

As a general rule, a motor vehicle less than 25 years old must comply with all applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards (FMVSS) to be imported on a permanent basis.

It says cars less than 25 years must comply with FMVSS, cars more than 25 years old should be ok. Good luck getting one, though.

exitspeed
01-31-2007, 12:39 PM
If I'm not mistanken, you can import any car you want into the US and register it as a track car. Obviously this means if your caught driving it on the road you're fucked. So if you have the money and just want a track car, go nuts.

gun
01-31-2007, 12:50 PM
goddamn all this bullshit on importing. seriously, if you want a jdm silvia, you can get one legal, even here in cali, may not have an sr for registration times, but you can get one. if people actually sat down and read through DOT, EPA, DMV, etc. rules and regulations, stupid threads like this wouldnt be created. the only car worthy of importing that you would have trouble with would be skylines, and there are ways around that already. you dont have to get one from canada, thats a waste of time and money, if you want a silvia, buy the fuckin thing, put a ka in it, go trough customs and register it, if you just follow the rules, you shouldnt have a problem, its not impossible, people just think its near impossible, but its not. this is my rant, i've been studying importing cars for years now and this kinda shit pisses me off.........good luck to ya

shinrekka
01-31-2007, 01:19 PM
I have been too. Read the whole page. When I get back from work I will explain.

the DOT webpage about this shit

-=RS13=-
01-31-2007, 03:02 PM
The biggest flaw in your theory is that JDM cars brough into canada do not get issued a new VIN. They use the JDM chassis code. And since it is not 17 characters long it turns out to be nothing like a North America VIN.

Lots of people have enough trouble with registering and insuring a car without a 17 charater vin i HIGHLY doubt it would even be possible in the states

shinrekka
01-31-2007, 03:17 PM
It does gets reissued a new vin when it is brought into canada. So thats not a flaw. When the car is imported to canada, its given a new vin and title from canada customs. At that point its the same as importing any other car from canada to the united states. And as long as the car was made before Sept 1, 1989 no further modification is neccasary to bring it to the u.s. After that date its still possible but modification is neccasary. Saftey laws differed from canada and the united states after that. Such as we got automatic seatbelts, canada didnt.

shinrekka
01-31-2007, 03:27 PM
(a) All passenger cars less than 25 years old that were manufactured before September 1, 1989

(b) All passenger cars manufactured on or after September 1, 1989, and before September 1, 1996, that, as originally manufactured, are equipped with an automatic restraint system that complies with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS)

RISINGSUNPROJECTS
01-31-2007, 03:30 PM
There is alot more involved with just buy a JDM car from Canada and driving it to the US. If it were that easy, there would be alot more JDM cars crossing the border!

Full-Lock
01-31-2007, 03:53 PM
seriously...if you want a JDM car in the states that is US legal...talk to ghost-dancer

shinrekka
01-31-2007, 04:05 PM
There are rules and regulations that need to be followed, but most people think its impossible or rediculously hard to do. Every person who has an imported car that i've talked to will not give out any information on how they did it. Yet every tuesday during the summer i go to bald hill car show and theres a rhd mr2, starlet turbo awd, quite a few skylines R32,33,34,pulsar gti-r, integra type r's to name a few, some times theres a row of 6 imported cars and they all are friends but they wont give out any info on how they did it. It cant be as hard as everyone says it is. Its probaly the same as how everyone said you cant bolt on a KA24 DOHC head on a SOHC block, they were just repeating what they were told. Until someone actually did it, and showed everyone. Thats what everyone needs for this type of situation.

DUFFM4N
01-31-2007, 05:47 PM
http://sr20store.com/projectcars/2.jpg

id import one of these in a heartbeat :P...but too rich for my blood

shinrekka
01-31-2007, 06:27 PM
There is one in california with a carbon fiber trunk :(

Frosty_spl
01-31-2007, 07:46 PM
Can't you LEGALY import any car into the states that is over 25 or 30 years old? Is this correct?

blackcoupe
01-31-2007, 07:50 PM
there was a guy actually sellin his at the nor cal jdm theory/ j's gathering, i think he was askin for $40k...unless i overheard wrong otherwise.

shinrekka
01-31-2007, 10:40 PM
Yes anything 25years old and under you can import legaly. So that leads to 1982. Unfortunetly z cars and skylines are very expensive in japan. I dont realy know of any other car that i would want to import. 70's celicas came to mind, and I did send an email to an import company in japan and they said those celicas go for about 8 grand. Z cars and skylines at the minimum are 20grand, and most likely closer to 40grand and up.

shinrekka
01-31-2007, 10:41 PM
I was going to pick up a rhd fairlady 240Z shell, but it was just that, a shell. I looked in the window and all i saw was the ground under neath. Honestly I still wish i bought it and converted my old 280z to right hand drive but they ended up junking it.

axiomatik
02-01-2007, 07:42 AM
so, why don't you post a link to where you are finding this info, because the link I posted (NHTSA rules for importing from Canada) did not mention anything about September '89

shinrekka
02-01-2007, 08:40 AM
I'll find it when i get home tonight.