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cmcdougle
01-29-2007, 10:25 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/28/wkim28.xml

Unhappy as a boy, Kim became youngest ever transsexual at 12

By Bojan Pancevski in Vienna, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 1:12am GMT 29/01/2007

A boy of 12 is believed to have become the world's youngest sex change patient after convincing doctors that he wanted to live the rest of his life as a female.

The boy - originally called Tim, but now known as Kim - has started to receive hormone treatment, in preparation for the operation that will eventually complete the sex change.

Tim was diagnosed as a transsexual two years ago, when doctors and psychiatrists concluded that his claims to be "in the wrong body" were so deeply felt that he required treatment. The therapy involves artificially arresting male puberty, with a series of potent hormone injections before the administration of female hormones to initiate the development of features such as breasts.
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Now aged 14, and officially registered as a female, Kim looks like a typical girl of her age. She dresses in fashionable clothes, has long blonde hair and blue eyes and dreams of moving to Paris to become a fashion designer. Her parents, who initially assumed their son was going through a temporary phase, eventually grew accustomed to seeing him as a girl.

The family's full identity has not been made public. But Kim's father, known as Lutz P. – speaking to the German publications Der Spiegel and Stern – said that as a child, the boy liked to play with Barbie dolls, enjoyed wearing dresses and, from the age of two, insisted that he was a girl. "We saw Kim as a girl, but not as a problem. Our life was surprisingly normal."

Kim reacted badly to the first signs of puberty, he said. "At that stage we realised that she was terrified of growing facial hair and her voice breaking."

Kim's parents consulted psychiatrists across Germany. Some condemned their support of their child's desire to undergo a sex change, or suggested that Kim be kept under observation in a closed psychiatric ward. But others agreed that the child should receive therapy, because growing up to be a man would have damaged her personality.

Dr Bern Meyenburg, the head of a clinic for children and adolescents with identity disturbances at Frankfurt University, concluded that the child was serious. He wrote in his diagnosis: "Kim is a mentally well-developed child who appears happy and balanced. There is no doubt of the determined wish, that was already detectable since early childhood. It would have been very wrong to let Kim grow up to be a man. It is rare to have such a clear-cut case."

Kim is reportedly fully accepted by her fellow school pupils and teachers. The costs of the procedure are being covered by health insurance, as the condition qualifies as an illness.

Dr Achim Wuesthof, an endocrinologist specialising in children and adolescents, who is treating the teenager at a clinic in Hamburg, said the procedure had been a success so far. Speaking to The Sunday Telegraph, he said that even though under-16s were not permitted to undergo a sex change in other countries, he and his colleagues felt that in this case it had been best to start earlier. He said: "To the best of my knowledge, Kim is the youngest sex change patient in the world. According to German law, two independent psychiatrists must confirm that the child is indeed transsexual and approve the sex change. Once that has been done, it is best to start as early as possible.

"Transsexuals experience the onset of puberty, and the physical changes it brings, as a serious trauma. But there is a general lack of empathy with cases like Kim's, mostly because people know little about the condition. Imagine a man that suddenly starts growing breasts or a woman that starts growing a beard against their will – that is how Kim and people like her experience puberty.

"They are not freaks, nor do they suffer mental illness. They are simply trapped in the wrong bodies. That is why it is best to help them as early as possible and reduce the trauma for them and their families."

The problem that Dr Meyenburg and other psychiatrists faced was distinguishing a true transsexual personality from a temporary gender identity crisis. Dr Meyenburg quoted an example of a 15-year-old girl who wanted to change her sex, but who revealed during counselling that she had suffered brutal sexual abuse by her father – a case for psychological, rather than hormonal therapy.

Should Kim change her mind before the surgery, the procedure could be reversed. Doctors admit that the treatment involves a risk, however, and that its effects on children as young as Kim are not fully understood.

For legal reasons, the final stage – cosmetic surgery to remove the male genitalia – cannot take place until Kim is 18. Britain's youngest transsexual is Angel Paris-Jordan, who was granted an operation on the NHS at the age of 17.

theicecreamdan
01-29-2007, 11:18 PM
Somebody is gonna have a bit of explaining to do when she gets her boyfriend, and he finds a cockandballs downstairs.

Neejay
01-29-2007, 11:23 PM
lol..........................

Taniguchi_Is_#1
01-29-2007, 11:23 PM
interesting, i can see it all now.....

kim: honey, is that a banana in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
boyfriend: uh..... i could ask you the same thing?

180sExy
01-29-2007, 11:25 PM
wow.......:wtf::wtf:

infinitexsound
01-29-2007, 11:29 PM
i think he wouldnt have the tools anymore... so something like mistaken him for a male wouldnt happen, but the adams apple doesnt lie!

cmcdougle
01-29-2007, 11:32 PM
he can't get it cut off until he's 18. . . or she, idn. . . that's going to hurt!!

chr0nik_sm0k3
01-30-2007, 12:31 AM
wow.......:wtf::wtf:


+1

wtf is wrong with ppl

240Degrees
01-30-2007, 12:50 AM
where's the pics?

chr0nik_sm0k3
01-30-2007, 12:50 AM
where's the pics?


you cant be serious lol

mjjstang
01-30-2007, 12:51 AM
what if it was true though. people are born with multiple limbs, some people have their organs on the opposite side of their body, Etc. there are tons of mutations that a person could be born with. It is completely feasible that a human could be programmed to be a woman but accidentally given the male body. We are so quick to judge people as being wrong, I mean look at it this way, this kid 12 years old knew something was up, you think he actually concocted some sick plan and decided o it would be so cool to decide to change my body and rewrite my whole life with this silly little prank.

Don't get me wrong, I did get a little queasy at the whole concept, I guess thats common reaction to something so wildly different from "normal". People are so quick to judge. They made a movie on this called "Normal" not about a kid though. k done.

A Spec Products
01-30-2007, 12:55 AM
This gives me the heeby jeebies

To each his own no doubt

But the thought of removing your junk just ehhhhhhhhh

Chills

azndummie
01-30-2007, 12:57 AM
i cant believe the parents allowed this...

deadpirate
01-30-2007, 01:39 AM
^ +1

but at the same time...like mjjstang said, at 12 years old, i dont think this kid came up with this plan out of the blue, he/she knew something was wrong.

Anto
01-30-2007, 03:24 AM
UGhhhhh

I bet you that "boy" is going to turn out like the myspace shemale

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Tenchuuk/TV.jpg

jrmiller84
01-30-2007, 07:13 AM
My mothers best-friends friend was a shemale. It was weird although it didn't bother me. Good (possibly) story for you guys...

I remember the first time I was at her(she was a male before) house I wasn't sure which person at the house was the transexual. There was a wedding reception at her house and a buddy and I were trying to figure out who it was. We were carrying some food out of the kitchen and I accidentally left the kitchen door open and she boomed out behind us "COULD YOU PLEASE CLOSE THE KITCHEN DOOR?" Her voice was like a 50 yr old man who had been smoking his whole life. Scared the shit out of us. Needless to say we closed the door and booked it. Her name was Terry-Anne(Terry her pre-change name, Anne appended afterwards) but it should have been Hoss after hearing her voice.

Her story was quite different though, she did it simply because she always thought she was a female, not because she had both parts.

She was very nice though, after you found out you never once judged her assuming you weren't close minded.

wickdmarz
01-30-2007, 08:49 AM
I wanna see pics!!

ManoNegra
01-30-2007, 09:44 AM
Weird. I'm Latin, grew up in the whole macho system, went to Latin high school and just like most of you was your typical homophobe.
Since I've had a few gay friends and a manager at my first job was a transgender. And trust me, knowing what they go through in society and the all the crap they have to put up with no one in their right mind would make a decision of that nature on a whim. Grow up people.

BC240
01-30-2007, 11:44 AM
:ghey: ?? we need a :transexual: smiley.. I don't think i've ever met one up here in the cold white north, They must like warmer climates.

TiNMAN
01-30-2007, 01:34 PM
I wanna see pics!!


thats what im saying yo!

ms!3
01-30-2007, 02:42 PM
transexuals scare me... really, i saw one acouple months ago at tacobell, lol im scarred for life.......:bite:

Flipzide
01-30-2007, 05:02 PM
eh. whatever floats "her" boat right? if the parents are fine with it and shes backed by doctors, i don't see a problem. i wonder if people at her school know she's transexual...

Full-Lock
01-30-2007, 06:28 PM
transexuals scare me... really, i saw one acouple months ago at tacobell, lol im scarred for life.......:bite:

laWL...i saw one working at Taco Bell a few months ago. Im never eating Taco Bell ever again.

azndummie
01-30-2007, 06:43 PM
^ +1

but at the same time...like mjjstang said, at 12 years old, i dont think this kid came up with this plan out of the blue, he/she knew something was wrong.

i do not believe that any 12 year old would know better for themselves and for the parents to allow this type of thing to happen is just blah. The kid might even grow up regretting this.

cmcdougle
01-30-2007, 09:20 PM
I wanna see pics!!

He's just a little girl!!! Geez, you pervert!

http://www.digitaljournal.com/images/photo/Copy_0_sc.jpg

eh. whatever floats "her" boat right? if the parents are fine with it and shes backed by doctors, i don't see a problem. i wonder if people at her school know she's transexual...

He's all over the news. . . and if they can't figure it out, just look for the little boy that loved to play with barbies that showed up one week with long hair and no dick!

i do not believe that any 12 year old would know better for themselves and for the parents to allow this type of thing to happen is just blah. The kid might even grow up regretting this.

Regret this? You think? I think he'll change his mind after his dick gets cut off. . . while they suck out half of his brains. . .

shinrekka
01-30-2007, 09:36 PM
:hitit: in the :mrmeph:

TheTimanator
01-30-2007, 09:40 PM
i do not believe that any 12 year old would know better for themselves and for the parents to allow this type of thing to happen is just blah.
agreed. When I was 12 I had no idea what was best for me...thats what parents are for. Even at 18 a lot of people out there still haven't learned how to make smart decisions on there own... And I don't care how many surgeries and drugs you take, he's still going to be a guy on the inside.

Could you imagine your first day in 6th grade gym seeing him the locker room? :bite:

cmcdougle
01-30-2007, 11:30 PM
Could you imagine your first day in 6th grade gym seeing him the locker room? :bite:

lol, I didn't think about that. Pants her!


Hey, I just thought, that's kind of a good way to get into the Girl's locker room. . . a good way, at least, minus the whole "turning into a girl" part of it.

The_Reaper
01-31-2007, 02:57 AM
eeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

GSXRJJordan
01-31-2007, 03:50 AM
lol, I didn't think about that. Pants her!


Hey, I just thought, that's kind of a good way to get into the Girl's locker room. . . a good way, at least, minus the whole "turning into a girl" part of it.


HAHAHAHAHA - classic...

Yuri
01-31-2007, 11:07 AM
Have you guys ever heard of Chimerism?
It's when one fetus absorbs it's twin in the uterus.

It leads to one person having seperate DNA throughout the body. There are cases where somebody would have the head and brain of one gender and the body of the opposite. Not saying that's the case here, but that would be kinda confusing, huh?

Maverick7687
01-31-2007, 08:30 PM
WOW... I knew a guy, his name WAS David.. I went to school with him.. Not really a good friend but knew each other. He always seemed a little feminine to me. Long story short, he was(from what I hear) a hermaphrodite.. and remained that way until he got out of school and went to Canada for "the operation" her name is now Julia.

Maverick7687
01-31-2007, 08:31 PM
Have you guys ever heard of Chimerism?
It's when one fetus absorbs it's twin in the uterus.

It leads to one person having seperate DNA throughout the body. There are cases where somebody would have the head and brain of one gender and the body of the opposite. Not saying that's the case here, but that would be kinda confusing, huh?
You saw that shit on Grey's Anatomy didn't you? I saw that one!

bardabe
01-31-2007, 10:10 PM
wow... just wow

topsecretgold
02-01-2007, 06:26 AM
UGhhhhh

I bet you that "boy" is going to turn out like the myspace shemale

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Tenchuuk/TV.jpg

LMAO!!!!!!!!

topsecretgold
02-01-2007, 06:51 AM
So when his/her parents go to the lube & tune and say..."im having problems with my tranny"...that brings up all new questions and possibilities.

fohahz
02-01-2007, 09:52 AM
:tweak: thats just....nasty.

Yuri
02-01-2007, 10:41 AM
You saw that shit on Grey's Anatomy didn't you? I saw that one!
I've never actually seen Grey's anatomy. I prefer House.:hs:

Maverick7687
02-01-2007, 04:50 PM
I've never actually seen Grey's anatomy. I prefer House.:hs: Yes, House is definitely the best. There was a Grey's Anatomy episode where a guy had an ovary and they decided that's what it was. He ate his sister in the womb... WTF?!