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Unholy S14
01-25-2007, 10:43 PM
By Sam Mitani • Photo Illustration by Larson

March 2007

Photos of a masked Nissan GT-R lapping the Nürburgring last fall received more hits on the Internet than Miss USA did after a night out on the town. The reason: Despite its expected price tag of about $70,000, the GT-R will be the most alluring Japanese sports machine to come our way since the Acura NSX in the mid-1990s. Previously sold only in Japan, the GT-R (Skyline GT-R as it was formerly known) has been an icon to boy racers and aftermarket tuners alike since the R32 appeared in 1989. The upcoming version, which will hit dealer showrooms in late 2007 or early 2008, will be the first model marketed worldwide, thus the first official version available in the U.S. Nissan has remained mum regarding this sixth-generation model, but we have discovered some interesting new tidbits about the car.

Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn confirmed that the GT-R will be built in Japan. The chassis will be assembled in the company's Tochigi factory while the powerplant will be produced at its Yokohama engine plant. The official logo for the car has also been released. As for the performance of the GT machine, here's what we know so far.

Power will come from a 3.7-liter version of Nissan's VQ powerplant. A pair of turbochargers will help it produce about 450 bhp and 360 lb.-ft. of torque. Because longtime fans of the GT-R are accustomed to more output via aftermarket tuning, Nissan has seemingly left some room on the table for buyers wanting to increase the power of their GT-Rs.

Stock boost pressure will be limited to about 10 psi, but we hear that the engine is capable of handling a lot more. A tamer version of this V-6, codenamed VQ37HR-TT, will make its way into the upcoming Infiniti G35 Coupe. Key differences between the engines are that the GT-R's VQ will have the twin turbo*chargers, lighter pistons and connecting rods, as well as a beefed-up crankshaft. Other custom parts may make their way into the engine, including racing profile camshafts and new valvetrain. It will come mated to a Getrag 6-speed transmission or a paddle-shift sequential automatic with seven or eight gears.

The GT-R will have awesome stopping power, especially if it wears the same brakes spotted during testing at the Ring. Gold-colored Brembo calipers sparkled in the sun as the GT-R attacked the famed Nordschleife. Upon closer inspection, the fronts appeared to be 6-pot calipers. As for the car's handling, we're pretty sure that it will be all-wheel drive, with a new version of Nissan's ATTESA system. For the record, the car had little trouble negotiating the Carousel at more than 110 mph. Its lap times were reported to be around 8 minutes flat, quite impressive for a test mule on a somewhat crowded track. Could it match or eclipse the Porsche 911 Turbo's time in the 7-minute-40-second range in an all-out effort? The answer awaits us in just a few months. — SM

It will also eat babies

Anto
01-25-2007, 11:26 PM
niiiice


I can't wait to see what technological wonders nissan will release here in the states

Nachtmensch
01-25-2007, 11:34 PM
i cant wait to see these. should really dominate. the aftermarket potential is HUGE for this car.

CKAMC
01-25-2007, 11:40 PM
TT on the G coupe.... *thinks*..... na it would have to be a 3.5... the coupe has to be under lined... cant push as much as the higher/more expensive model in terms of power.

maybe a single turbo equipped or supercharged model for the Z line in late 08? lets see..... :)

Kn1ves
01-26-2007, 12:53 AM
Sounds like the G coupe will get a SINGLE turbo version while GTR gets Twinturbo.

BOROSUN
01-26-2007, 01:12 AM
oooh lala HR.

0100
01-26-2007, 06:24 AM
Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:
www.nurburgring.org.uk/map.jpg

6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05),
www.radicalextremesportscars.com/news_folder/nord0905/index.php
www.radicalextremesportscars.com/media/track_race_ring/index.php
www.autoexpress.co.uk/video_gallery/61467/radical_sr8_smashes_nrburgring_lap_record.html (*street-legal only in the UK)
7:12* -- 173.600 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14.89 172.181 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting (nov,6 05), http://autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=4199
7:15.63 169.311 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05), www.edo-competition.de/fileadmin/MEDIA/VIDEO/nordschleife_runde.avi
www.chpltd.com/911_porsche_world/ringmeister.html
7:18.01 170.236 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004, >>>
7:19* -- 168.929 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) (*mfr.), www.radicalmotorsport.com/news_folder/nordchliefe/index.php ,
www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg
7:28 --- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl,(Autobild 07/04)
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h – Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/ 1230 kg, (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) , www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06),
7:34 --- 163.586 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), oct,17-18 05, www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=98&page=&type=news, www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=75219
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7.39* -- 161.575 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.575 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=91&page=&type=news
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.868 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04), www.manthey-motors.de/nextshopcms/cmspdf.asp?id=217
7:42* -- 160.519 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h – Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02)
7:42.9 - 160.207 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05),
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44 --- 159.828 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45 --- 159.484 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600hp (00)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at www.pistonheads.tv
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00), www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (sport auto 99)
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07)
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381 PS (sport auto 03/04)
7:48 --- 158.463 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h – BMW X5 Le Mans, 700 PS/~2000 kg, Hans-Joachim Stuck
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=51F08AD2-A549-43F0-AD1B-E91F288808EB&p=0
7.49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3, 392 PS (AutoBild 2004), www.autobild.de/tuning/testberichte/artikel.php?artikel_id=7274&artikel_seite=4
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:49.72 157.885 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine, >>> http://nurburgring.free.fr/Vids/Bren_Westie_Whooo_Divx504_1_350.avi
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/1599 kg (sport auto 02/06)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 493 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05), >>>
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/03)
7:55* -- 156.126 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal)(*mfr.)
7:55 --- 156.126 km/h -- Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:55 --- 156.126 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06),
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56* - 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:56.50 155.594 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.65 155.569 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.73* 155.569 km/h -- Honda NSX-R (*Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not complete)
7:57 --- 155.472 km/h -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/98)
7:58 --- 156.652 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.php?f=10&i=16841&t=16841\
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* -- 154.822 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 97)
7:59.41 154.690 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C "prototype" (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:01.72 153.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:02 --- 153.858 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
8:03 --- 153.540 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Pirelli P Zero Corsa (sport auto 10/05)
8:03 --- 153.540 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
8:04 --- 153.223 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard”, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05),
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ruf CTR, www.lad.lv/~martini/porsche/Videos/RUF-CTR_Nurburgring1.wmv
8:06 --- 152.592 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
8:06.01 152.589 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:07 --- 152.279 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/98)
8:07.76 152.041 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg, Prinz Luitpold von Bayern (AutoBild 02/06)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h – Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06),
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05),
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear 02/05)
8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)
8:10 --- 151.347 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:10.75 151.265 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* -- 151,274 km/h -- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/97)
8:33 --- 150.426 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Bridgestone Potenza RE 50 (sport auto 10/05)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/04)
8:14 --- 150.120 km/h -- Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05),
8:14 --- 150.120 km/h -- Steinmetz Opel Astra OPC, 285 PS/1418 kg (sport auto Tuning 07),
8:14.98 149.824 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma Evo VIII GSR MR 8 (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h – BMW Z4 M Roadster, 343 PS/1485 kg, www.autoexpress.co.uk/driven/64720/bmw_z4_m_roadster.html
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/05),
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05),
8:15* -- 149.818 km/h -- Holden GTS (00), *estimated
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera 2, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 hp
8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/97)
8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/04)
8:16.15 149.471 km/h -- Honda NSX (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/03)
8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/00)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Maserati GranSport, 400 PS/1672 kg (sport auto 09/05),
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- BMW M3 E36, 321 hp (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.617 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GTR (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360PS/1566kg (sport auto 04/05),
8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00)
8:25* -- 146.851 km/h – 2007 BMW M5 Touring, 507 PS (*mfr.)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Corvette Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Jaguar XKR, 416 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 11/06)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Maybach 57 S, 612 PS/2835 kg www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen/artikel.php?artikel_id=11912
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 11/99)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (sport auto 11/02)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h – Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1412 kg (sport auto 11/06),
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h – BMW 335i Coupé, 306 PS/1610 kg (sport auto 10/06),
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG, 354 PS/1480 kg (sport auto 05/01)
8:26 --- 146.561 km/h -- Nissan 350Z, 280 PS/1526 kg (sport auto 10/03)
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- BMW E49 M5, 400PS/1833 kg (sport auto 03/99)
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera 2, 285 PS/1452 kg (sport auto 01/98)
8:28 --- 145.984 km/h -- Porsche Carrera Cabrio (sport auto 04/97)
8:28.93 145.690 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX sedan (1992) www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf
8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Audi S4 4.2 Avant, 344 PS/1826 kg (sport auto 11/03)
8:29 --- 145.697 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG, 347 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 05/00)
8:29 --- 145.697 km/h – MTM VW Golf V GTI, 272 PS/1437 kg (sport auto Tuning 07),
8:30 --- 145.412 km/h -- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa, 320 PS/1593 kg (sport auto 10/02)
8:31.--- 145.130 km/h -- 2006 CADILLAC STS-V, 440PS/1948 kg, www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101519
8:31.42 145.008 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (sport auto 04/03)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0si coupe, 265 PS/1408 kg (sport auto 08/06)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Lotus Exige, 192hp (sport auto 08/04)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW M Roadster, 321 PS/1410 kg (sport auto 09/97)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG, 231 PS/1396 kg (sport auto 05/03)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 252 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 12/99)
8:32 --- 144.844 km/h -- Volkswagen Golf R32 Mk. IV, 250 PS
8:33.80 144.336 km/h -- Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276 PS (Top Gear magazine)
8:34 --- 144.280 km/h -- Acura NSX, 276 PS
8:34 --- 144.280 km/h -- BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i, 231 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 04/01)
8:34 --- 144.280 km/h -- Opel Speedster Turbo, 220 PS (sport auto 04/04)
8:35 --- 144.000 km/h -- BMW 130i, 258 PS/1350 kg (Road & Track)
8:35 --- 144.000 km/h -- BMW M3 SMG E36, 321 PS/1515 kg (sport auto 03/97)
8:35 --- 144.000 km/h -- Brabus-Mercedes Benz C V8 Sportcoupé, 426 PS/1635 kg (sport auto 02/02)
8:35 --- 144.000 km/h -- Opel Speedster Turbo, 220 PS
8:35.93 143.740 km/h – Opel Astra OPC, 240 PS/1355 kg, Manuel Reuter (mfr., oct,05) record holder compact class
8:36 --- 143.585 km/h -- BMW E36 M3 EVO, 321 PS
8:36 --- 143.585 km/h -- Alpina-BMW B3 3.3 Coupé (sport auto 07/99)
8:36 --- 143.585 km/h -- Jaguar XKR Performance Kit, 363 PS/1703 kg (sport auto 09/00)
8:36 --- 143.585 km/h -- Porsche Boxster ´03, 228 PS/1370 kg (sport auto 02/03)
8:36.42 143.604 km/h -- BMW M3 EVO, 321hp (Top Gear magazine)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Maserati 3200GT, 370 PS/1614 kg (sport auto 09/02)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG, (sport auto 09/01)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Nissan Skyline GTR V-Spec, 350 PS
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Subaru Impreza GT Turbo, 218 PS/1290 kg (sport auto 03/00)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- Honda NSX 3.0 (sport auto 07/91)
8:37 --- 143.443 km/h -- VW Golf R32 (sport auto 02/03)
8:37.10 143.415 km/h -- Nissan GTR V, 350 pS (Top Gear maagzine)
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Brabus-Mercedes Benz CLK 5.8, 400 PS/1592 kg (sport auto 12/98)
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Honda NSX 3.2, 280 PS/1386 kg (sport auto 08/97)
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL500, 306 PS/1852 kg (sport auto 12/01)
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Renault Megane Sport Trophy “sport auto” edition, 225PS/1371 kg (sport auto 6/05),
8:38 --- 143.166 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera, 296hp
8:39 --- 142.890 km/h -- Honda S2000, 240 PS/1275 kg (sport auto 01/00)
8:39 --- 142.890 km/h -- Morgan Aero 8, 286 PS/1193 kg (sport auto 04/03)
8:40 --- 142.615 km/h -- Holden GTS, on an in and out lap (2000)
8:40 --- 142.615 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic, 344 PS/1505 kg (sport auto 07/97)
8:40.30 142.615 km/h – Bentley Continental GT, 560 PS/2385 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
8:41 --- 142.342 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7, 420 PS/1847 kg (sport auto 01/99)
8:41 --- 142.342 km/h -- Audi S3, 210 PS/1489 kg (sport auto 06/99)
8:42 --- 142.069 km/h -- Audi S4, 265 PS/1592 kg (sport auto 08/98)
8:42 --- 142.069 km/h -- Audi TT 1.8 quattro w. ESP, 225 PS/1461 kg, (sport auto 07/01)
8:42 --- 142.069 km/h -- BMW Alpina B3 3.3, 280 PS/1495 kg (sport auto 07/99)
8:42 --- 142.069 km/h -- Lotus Exige, 179 PS/796 kg, (sport auto 11/00)
8:43 --- 141.797 km/h -- Honda Integra Type R (sport auto 12/00)
8:44.83 141.303 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Coupe, 339 PS, automatic (Top Gear magazine)
8:46 --- 140.989 km/h -- Porsche 993 Carrera S, 285 PS
8:47 --- 140.721 km/h -- Honda Civic Type-R, 200 PS/1246 kg (sport auto 11/01)
8:48.25 140.388 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 285 PS (Top Gear magazine)
8:49 --- 140.189 km/h -- Jaguar XKR Coupe, 363 PS/1703 kg (sport auto 07/98)
8:49 --- 140.189 km/h -- Renault Clio Sport V6, 226 PS/1381 kg (sport auto 07/01)
8:49 --- 140.189 km/h -- Audi TT 1.8T quattro Coupé, 225 PS/1461 kg (sport auto 11/98)
8:49 --- 140.189 km/h – VW Golf V R32, 250 PS/1591 kg (sport auto 09/06),
8:50 --- 139.925 km/h -- BMW Alpina B10 3.2, 260 PS/1600 kg (sport auto 04/98)
8:50* -- 139.925 km/h -- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (sport auto ??/00)
8:51 --- 139.661 km/h -- Alfa Romeo 156 GTA, 231 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 05/02)
8:51* -- 139.661 km/h -- Ford Focus ST, 225 PS/1330 kg (sport auto 09/05) (*mfr.)
8:51 --- 139.661 km/h -- Mercedes Benz C43 AMG, 306 PS/1571 kg (sport auto 12/01)
8:52 --- 139.398 km/h -- Mercedes Benz CLK 430, 279 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 09/01)
8:52 --- 139.529 km/h -- VW Golf GTI DSG, 200 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 11/05)
8:54 --- 138.897 km/h -- Porsche Boxster, 204 PS/1325 kg (sport auto 01/97)
8:54 --- 138.932 km/h -- VW Golf GTI 25th Anniversary, 180 hp, 1320 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:55 --- 134.579 km/h -- Mini Cooper S Works, 200 hp (sport auto ??/04)
8:58 --- 133.829 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Turbo SE (sport auto 07/97)
9:05* -- 136.073 km/h -- Ford Focus RS, 215 PS/1355 kg (sport auto 09/05)(*mfr.)
9:07 --- 135.576 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 230, 195 PS/1356 kg (sport auto 05/01)
9:07 --- 135.576 km/h -- AMG Mercedes SLK 230 compressor (sport auto 05/99)
9:09 --- 135.802 km/h --VW Golf V6 4Motion, 204 PS/1455 kg (sport auto 01/02)
10:08 -- 121.973 km/h --Ford Transit, 136 PS/??? Kg, Sabine Schmitz (Top Gear TV, jul,10 05)
11:00 -- 110.885 km/h -- Karmann Colorad RS, 298 PS/???, Sabine Schnitz (07/06)

race cars:
7:00* -- 176.250 km/h – BMW M3 GTR, 450 PS/1100 kg (sport auto 06/04), *estimated
7:01 --- 176.152 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 race car, 493 PS (AutoBild 06/04), www.manthey-motors.de/nextshopcms/cmspdf.asp?id=217
7:10 --- 173.100 km/h -- BMW M3 GTR, 450 PS/1350 kg, Joerg Mueller (practice 24hrs race 03)
7:12.25 173.500 km/h -- Schnitzer BMW M3 GTR, Dirk Mueller, 24hrs race practice (02)
7:20* -- 168.545 km/h -- Opel Astra DTM V8 Coupe, 500hp, set-up for 24hrs race (sport auto 03) *estimated
7:21 --- 168.163 km/h -- Blitz Supra, 650 PS (Autocar magazine 97)
7:25 --- 168.651 km/h -- Alzen Motorsport Porsche 996, 24hrs race, Uwe Alzen
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 hp, Michelin Sport Cup R , Mattias Ekblom
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom (ams)

SilviaNinja240
01-26-2007, 06:54 AM
the price tag is Japan will be around 50,000 USD, I read in a magazine earlier this evening.

exitspeed
01-26-2007, 07:28 AM
Hmmm, I could see the G and Z being bumped up performance wise. You know what that means? Room for a SX...

Unholy S14
01-26-2007, 07:33 AM
isnt the 350 getting a supercharged version this year ?

lucky7
01-26-2007, 09:08 AM
^^ i thought that was all rumored??

WILDACEX187
01-26-2007, 09:27 AM
vq37hrtt. wat a mouthful lol. displacement rocks!!!

OptionZero
01-26-2007, 09:42 AM
look awesome, bet it drives great, and still can't beat a z06 =P

Agamemnon
01-26-2007, 12:39 PM
isnt the 350 getting a supercharged version this year ?
Correct. However it will only be available in the UK and at a very limited amount being produced.

Hopefully Nissan is using the UK as a testbed for further SC ventures.
http://paultan.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/350z_gts_1.jpg

Agamemnon
01-26-2007, 12:40 PM
Hmmm, I could see the G and Z being bumped up performance wise. You know what that means? Room for a SX...
God I hope so.

turtl631
01-26-2007, 01:01 PM
That'd be cool if the Z got a little more power, its a shame that they're so down on power compared to the Evo (not really stock so much as with basic mods that get you a lot on the Evo and not so much on the Z). I think they'd sell even more then. And a lower priced RWD car would be cool, although I don't know how many they'd actually sell. I'd love if they offered a lighter performance one, like the Evo RS.

CKAMC
01-26-2007, 04:10 PM
Hmmm, I could see the G and Z being bumped up performance wise. You know what that means? Room for a SX...

if SX EVER ... EVER shows back up I will get rid of all my cars and parts just for one....

assuming they will do it right ofcourse

I predict a MR23HRT... but the HR part will likely die (cost and actual performance wise for a 4 banger) and just be MR23DET at best

SlowCoupe
01-26-2007, 04:18 PM
so maybe in 5 years i can afford a used one. ahhh 1825 more days to go!!!

illvialuver
01-27-2007, 01:07 AM
i want that car sooooooooooooooooooobad

SimpleS14
01-27-2007, 01:09 AM
May sound weird...but now I'm even more intrigued about the Infiniti G Coupe.

0100
01-27-2007, 11:29 AM
May sound weird...but now I'm even more intrigued about the Infiniti G Coupe.

I agree, the G has a chance of being a monster. :hsdance:

fohahz
02-01-2007, 10:29 AM
noyce. its about damn time

TiNMAN
02-01-2007, 10:39 AM
so how many of us are actually planning on getting one?

edit: no joke.

s13silady
02-01-2007, 11:28 AM
^^ i am...

no joke.

TiNMAN
02-01-2007, 11:32 AM
sick sick. im thinkin about it too, but the new tundra is lookin mighty mighty sexy.

0100
02-01-2007, 01:48 PM
so how many of us are actually planning on getting one?

edit: no joke.

I am. I just put my formula car up for sale and once I sell my trailer and truck I am getting one nice car. I still think I may go with a used zo6.

If they price it at $55 I will get the GTR otherwise used zo6. If toyota is smart they should make a zo6 killer but they won't.:loco:

exitspeed
02-01-2007, 01:53 PM
I am. I just put my formula car up for sale and once I sell my trailer and truck I am getting one nice car. I still think I may go with a used zo6.

If they price it at $55 I will get the GTR otherwise used zo6. If toyota is smart they should make a zo6 killer but they won't.:loco:

They just debuted 2 sports cars. :ugh: Z06 killer, dunno. But we'll see.

deadpirate
02-01-2007, 02:12 PM
im debating on picking one up.

0100
02-01-2007, 04:49 PM
They just debuted 2 sports cars. :ugh: Z06 killer, dunno. But we'll see.

You talking about the IS-F and FT-HS concept.

The IS-F looks like it's going to be a pig, rather have a M5, but will wait and see.
The FT-HS is still a concept.
The LF-A is still a concept but looks really nice, wheels are gay but that's easy. http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_a.html

I was talking about the rumoured 2008 supra. All toyota has to do is make it perform as good as a zo6 for less money(aka zo6 killer). But it won't happen. I hope the LF-A concept is the 2008 supra(if it even is in toyota's pipeline).:hs:

All I know is I am sitting back for 2007 and banking everything. Then in 2008 I strike. :bigok:

bamaboy
02-01-2007, 05:57 PM
^^ i thought that was all rumored??
I think you are right....they built one but it was made clear that it was a project and nothing more

SimpleS14
02-01-2007, 06:06 PM
so how many of us are actually planning on getting one?

edit: no joke.


I do...but obviously not the first year it hits the states. I want to wait a year or two more and see how the aftermarket is for this car and the new G coupe. Also need to manage my funds and have a decent driving record maintained.

hendogg8
02-02-2007, 03:47 AM
Another new pic at the ring.

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3545/557/400/508957/gtr.jpg

I think it looks much nicer with those fogs and non-blackout for that area between the headlights and fogs.

Unholy S14
02-02-2007, 07:53 AM
nice find

1234

exitspeed
02-02-2007, 10:12 AM
You talking about the IS-F and FT-HS concept.

The IS-F looks like it's going to be a pig, rather have a M5, but will wait and see.
The FT-HS is still a concept.
The LF-A is still a concept but looks really nice, wheels are gay but that's easy. http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_a.html

I was talking about the rumoured 2008 supra. All toyota has to do is make it perform as good as a zo6 for less money(aka zo6 killer). But it won't happen. I hope the LF-A concept is the 2008 supra(if it even is in toyota's pipeline).:hs:

All I know is I am sitting back for 2007 and banking everything. Then in 2008 I strike. :bigok:

Both are concepts but are the future for Toyota. The FT-HS is the next "Supra". I don't think they'll name it that though.

98koukile
02-02-2007, 12:46 PM
I'm kinda glad the new GTR didn't turn out being an AWD G35 with an RB26DETT. It may be an awesome engine but they needed something new. Wouldn't mind seeing an AWD VQ though...

OptionZero
02-02-2007, 04:04 PM
Another new pic at the ring.

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/3545/557/400/508957/gtr.jpg

I think it looks much nicer with those fogs and non-blackout for that area between the headlights and fogs.

rear quarter section looks VERY chunky

same flaw as the mustang...looks great head on and at a slight angle, but the rear...huge, HUGE blocky ass

that fits the skyline historical theme, but please...fix it...the r32 was the pinnacle of GT-R looks, much leaner

0100
02-02-2007, 04:25 PM
rear quarter section looks VERY chunky

same flaw as the mustang...looks great head on and at a slight angle, but the rear...huge, HUGE blocky ass

that fits the skyline historical theme, but please...fix it...the r32 was the pinnacle of GT-R looks, much leaner

Who cares as long as you can fit 425/20ZR tires... might need a roll and slight pull. :keke:

0100
02-02-2007, 04:31 PM
Both are concepts but are the future for Toyota. The FT-HS is the next "Supra". I don't think they'll name it that though.

exit, I have heard rumours that the next supra will be called "Supra" and will be available 2008/09. It's just rumours obviously, just have to wait and see.

The FT-HS is badass, too extreme for me, but badass none the less.

I love the look of the LF-A. I hope they produce this car at some point in the near future.

BOROSUN
02-02-2007, 07:09 PM
20 inch 255/40 front 285/35 rear stock. badass man but, also moy expensivo $$$$$$$$$$$$$...

250sxdet
02-03-2007, 11:05 AM
I'm getting one too. I'ts time to upgrade to a real skyline, right ryan?

mRclARK1
02-03-2007, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by: SimpleS14
I do...but obviously not the first year it hits the states. I want to wait a year or two more and see how the aftermarket is for this car and the new G coupe. Also need to manage my funds...

Pretty much my plan exactly as well...

RoyalFlush
02-03-2007, 12:06 PM
rear quarter section looks VERY chunky

same flaw as the mustang...looks great head on and at a slight angle, but the rear...huge, HUGE blocky ass

that fits the skyline historical theme, but please...fix it...the r32 was the pinnacle of GT-R looks, much leaner

thats just your opinion, it was leaner, but i wouldnt say it was the pinnacle of gtr looks.

OptionZero
02-03-2007, 02:11 PM
That you for telling me my opinion was my opinion and that your opinion is not the same as your opinion.

darkG20t
02-03-2007, 02:44 PM
I'm kinda glad the new GTR didn't turn out being an AWD G35 with an RB26DETT. It may be an awesome engine but they needed something new. Wouldn't mind seeing an AWD VQ though...

There is an AWD VQ. There are set to be four in fact. G35x, M35x, Murano, and the coming Altima AWD (oops, erronious see below).

None of which are very sporty, I'm sure that was your point. Despite ~300hp and (Skyline bred) AWD, none of those are Evo fighters.

SimpleS14
02-03-2007, 06:31 PM
the coming Altima AWD.


Please cite your source for this bit of information....this is the first I'm reading of this and I can't see it being possible (Maxima should be AWD).

bardabe
02-03-2007, 10:25 PM
nice car and all, time to save up for a real GTR and show these american Noobs what the actual R badge in the straight 6 will pound hte living hell out of that new skyline. with a GTR R32 ofcourse

BOROSUN
02-03-2007, 11:11 PM
that ol' dinosaur cant compare to the new godzilla.

OptionZero
02-03-2007, 11:32 PM
yeah, that post made no sense. How is the new GT-R not an actual R badge? This ain't fuckin Honda. And who thinks the R32 would keep up with the new GTR stock for stock? You can't even get an R32 legally in the states.

fliprayzin240sx
02-04-2007, 02:47 AM
yeah, that post made no sense. How is the new GT-R not an actual R badge? This ain't fuckin Honda. And who thinks the R32 would keep up with the new GTR stock for stock? You can't even get an R32 legally in the states.


Didnt even Ghosn said it at the GTRs press release, the next GTR will blow the last generation GTRs out of the water. He wants this car to be the best GTR ever...so far the numbers are already making impressing me. Think bout the possibilities, 450 hp 360 tq @ 10 psi? Imagine what it can do at 1 bar with mods (intake, exhaust, re-tune) :bigok:

WILDACEX187
02-04-2007, 09:06 AM
damn that much at 10 psi? sorry i need to get my bib now

darkG20t
02-04-2007, 09:22 AM
Please cite your source for this bit of information....this is the first I'm reading of this and I can't see it being possible (Maxima should be AWD).

Yup, you caught me. I guess that was wishful thinking.

I think we will see an AWD Altima eventually though. It has the same driveline as the Murano/G35/M35. The Altima is a new platform but the old one was on the same as the Murano/G35. Additionally, Infiniti has expanded their offerings of AWD on sedans, while Nissan has none.

While I have no proof (or even rumors), I think it is more than possible. It is probable that we will see an Altima AWD in the next year or so.

... This is just my opinion though... :loco: Sorry about going a little off topic, umm... That GTR pic looks awesome.

SimpleS14
02-04-2007, 11:49 AM
Yup, you caught me. I guess that was wishful thinking.

I think we will see an AWD Altima eventually though. It has the same driveline as the Murano/G35/M35. The Altima is a new platform but the old one was on the same as the Murano/G35. Additionally, Infiniti has expanded their offerings of AWD on sedans, while Nissan has none.

While I have no proof (or even rumors), I think it is more than possible. It is probable that we will see an Altima AWD in the next year or so.


Yea, I guess you can call it wishful thinking for now. :) But to dispel some mis-information you posted....the old Altima and current Murano were NOT based on the same platform as the G35. They share the 'FF-L' platform, while the G35 is the 'FM' platform. The new Altima rides on an all-new 'D' platform.

s13gold
02-04-2007, 05:16 PM
i cant wait to seee this at my local nissan

jobestudios
02-04-2007, 08:26 PM
I dunno, I hope this becomes much more than a limited car, I don't want the only one in town to be owned by some joker who keeps it locked in his garage 365 days a year

And whoever says they're getting one, you'd better sell your project car right now, sell all the parts, invest all that money and live off top ramen for a while.

CleanS14
02-04-2007, 10:40 PM
If someone will buy my car I'd likely get one... but I doubt anyone would shell out for mine LOL. Cars... what a money pit!

SimpleS14
02-08-2007, 01:10 PM
PROTOTYPE SPOTTED IN THE US!!

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/ASSALBERT/DSCF0405.jpg

Here's the guys story:
Around 5:30 Monday night, Keith (evo4g63) and I were heading down Cerrillos Road when we spotted the silver prototype Nissan Skyline, along with 2 black Armadas turning into an Amigo Mart on the opposite side of the road. Being that this was a rare sighting, we quickly flipped a "U" and pulled into the station. As we pulled in, the car was surrounded by roughly 12 Asian guys who were logging information. Hoping that they spoke English, we decided to get down to talk with them about the car. I asked one of the guys what he thought of the car, and you guessed it, he had no idea what I was saying. However, he did manage to whisper a question into my ear, "you know GTR", in which I replied, "heck yes". As he asked me that, I noticed a large bulge on the right hand side of the covered interior. To my pleasant surprise it was a Japanese version Skyline equipped with factory turbos. We spoke with the reps from Nissan Japan a bit longer, and after a good 10-15 minutes of leg humping, let them get back on the road. The car has Michigan plates, and is being tested on US roads, so make sure to keep an eye out for it!

Cashizslick
02-08-2007, 01:50 PM
niiiice


I can't wait to see what technological wonders nissan will release here in the states


Is that wonders or blunders?

True.

You cant beat out GM and make fun cars at the same time . . .

hendogg8
02-08-2007, 03:42 PM
That black A-pillar always reminds me of that old, short lived tv show VIPER.
Where a red Viper RT/10 roadster transforms into their armed crime fighter...the DEFENDER!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c296/nbcviper/199x20Dodge20Viper20Defender20Conce.jpg

haha, good times

anyotherone
02-08-2007, 04:04 PM
I'm not willing to plop down a deposit on a car that I haven't seen. But if everything is well, I'll probably get one.

CylonFrakker
02-08-2007, 06:02 PM
Start saving now. With that kind of a price tag. The Dealer Markup Addendum and the Premium you will pay for the car it will easily eclipse 90 Grand mark. Nissan did this with the Z convertible when it arrived and sold them for over 45K so good luck expect your monthly payment to be about $1500 and insurance to run about 450 per month if you are under 25 an unmarried and about 250 a month when you are 25 and and about 150 a month if you are 25 and married. Good luck


Time to start eating ramen noodles and save cash like uncle scrooge.

illvialuver
02-08-2007, 06:18 PM
i cant wait for te new gtr, and everythign i read supports that it will be around 400 hp - 500hp, but I also read that toyota/lexus is building a v8 twin turbo 2door that is rumored to be 600 hp from factory

i would still take a 300 hp gtr over a 600 hp anything .
the only thing i would take over a gtr is a r390.

A Spec Products
02-08-2007, 06:26 PM
I'd rather buy a Porsche for that money.

It's "cool" they're bringing in a GTR finally, but eh, for the money I just don't see the rationale.

0100
02-09-2007, 01:40 AM
PROTOTYPE SPOTTED IN THE US!!



Nice find!! Nissan better be smart with pricing this car.

OptionZero
02-09-2007, 09:32 AM
It's pretty certain to be around $70-80 grand + dealer raping to push it even closer to six figures.

Yuri
02-09-2007, 09:57 AM
I really hope they sell.
It's a small market they are targeting.
As well known as the GTR is, the clientele that will be able to afford it probably won't be as exposed to the car as us.
I could be wrong though, Aston Martin has stated Gran Turismo as being a huge help in exposing their brand to the US Market, so it sounds like there could be potential.

As for me, I'm going to sell my Evo, and start looking at pre-owned Jaguar XK-R's. semiexotica is where it's at.

yokotas13
02-09-2007, 10:01 AM
i couldnt agree with you more on that Yuri.

I love the Jag styling myself
Its gonna be funny, they are gonna release it in japan for like 50,000
in the states it will be 110,000

its that initial d tax

cnile51
02-09-2007, 10:49 AM
spotted in santa fe new mexico:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d116/evonm4g63/DSCF0405.jpg

woodchuck
02-09-2007, 11:57 AM
I really hope they sell.
It's a small market they are targeting.
As well known as the GTR is, the clientele that will be able to afford it probably won't be as exposed to the car as us......


That is the muthafuckin truth right there. look at what big wig executives roll in - high end euro sedans and sportscars. its all about status symbol for them.
if you make 6 figures and you drive a nissan you'd get laughed at by your peers who rock s-classes, 6(or 7) series and porches.
quite frankly i think highend euroshit is overrated and i would take the gtr if i made the warbucks like they do.

the marketing team at nissan has an impossible task to push the gtr to the people who can afford it. Nissan needs to find a way to pull people away from bmw 6 series, porches, corvettes, vipers, etc...

WILDACEX187
02-09-2007, 12:12 PM
wasnt the r34 gtr something like 60k in japan though? 70-80k isnt that bad when u take account inflation and the fact that its gonna perform better

OptionZero
02-09-2007, 01:13 PM
This GT-R will not be mass produced and will experience severe dealer mark-up that the older ones did not have.

And wasn't the R34 closer to 50k?

0100
02-09-2007, 01:33 PM
wasnt the r34 gtr something like 60k in japan though? 70-80k isnt that bad when u take account inflation and the fact that its gonna perform better

70-80k is bad when you look at what you can get a used c6 ZO6 for. Even a new c6 ZO6 can be had under MRSP with a great finance rate all day long. I really think they need to price it just under a ZO6 if they want this to really sell. Especially if the ZO6 outperforms the GTR which so far it has on the ring.

Once the car get's up in the 80-90k range it doesn't matter anymore. People who have that money have enough to get a $120k car and I would much rather have a 911 AWD Turbo or GT3 if I had the means.

I agree nissan is going to have a tuff sell. They should have scaled back the car to make it cheaper to build and sell. People could still mod it later for better performance.

OptionZero
02-09-2007, 02:16 PM
Speculation:
The higher price is a reflection of Nissan outsourcing (at least some of) the engine design to Cosworth and suspension tuning to Lotus. Help can't come cheap from names like that, right?

EchoOfSilence
02-09-2007, 02:53 PM
I'd rather buy an exige lol

EDIT: ok i'll take that back
EDIT v.2: WTF? i'm no longer blue!?

harlockssx
02-09-2007, 03:54 PM
The guy who took that picture is on a local forum I'm on a lot Racing Southwest (RSW). The Nissan employees he spoke with said the US version wasn't going to be the same as the Japanese twin turbo version, which is pretty similar to what Nissan was saying a year ago...that the Infiniti would be getting a VQ37 turbo, not as powerful as the Nissan Skyline GTR...it sounds like we're once again only getting the tablescraps from Japan's performance market...Hopefully, that's not the case!

WILDACEX187
02-09-2007, 04:08 PM
i highly doubt that it will not have the twin turbo version. HIGHLY DOUBT. v8 is just not an option after spending all that money and time with cosworth to develop the new engine. nobody will buy it knowing this.

woodchuck
02-09-2007, 04:10 PM
...that the Infiniti would be getting a VQ37 turbo, not as powerful as the Nissan Skyline GTR...it sounds like we're once again only getting the tablescraps from Japan's performance market...Hopefully, that's not the case!

I think the US is lucky that it even got the g35 - the first US "skyline". Bring on the table scraps. Besides, there are going to be a ton tuners and aftermarket parts for it when it gets popular in the US.

irax
02-09-2007, 04:18 PM
yeah, tablescraps, pffft VQ37HRTT is a very fucking stout engine, just because its not what japan has, does not mean its not going to be good.
(that statment is only true for VQ37HRTT powerd GT-R) the technology behind it is beyond remarkable. 3.7 ltr with VVT, modular block, dual (individual mostlikely) throttle bodies. It would be soo easy to get 130whp per ltr out of that. Too bad stock is going to be like 90whp per ltr.

too bad i hate the style, and have no where near the money for it.

CKAMC
02-09-2007, 06:36 PM
US gets the short end of the stick because...

the big three are crying for the market playing field to be pulled down to there level or give them some handy caps

and the fact that nissan here in the states is known for good bang to buck ratio... need to keep up the image

but just another 6 months or so and we should know the final outcome very soon. or a engine shot from a spy will do the trick.

drift freaq
02-09-2007, 09:02 PM
Ok, first off guys the waiting list for the GTR is already filled. I.E first year production run is pretty much called for already. Why do I know this? I have a friend who got on the list. Second off anyone who believes what the guys testing a prototype in New Mexico has to say is on crack. They are going to make a lot of speculative remarks and the Japanese guys do not want to think the export version will be as nice. From what I have heard the engine is so open to tuning its not funny. The base HP figures they are announcing for the car are pretty much that. BASE HP! That engine is probably out of the box gonna be a easy tune to 500-600hp.
The car already has enough of a mystique to sell. I had a friend ask me about it this morning that used to be in the Japanese engine and trans business. He now owns a real estate mortgage company. He would buy one.
It will sell.

SimpleS14
02-09-2007, 10:39 PM
According to the rumormill....there are six protoypes running around.

The guy who took that picture is on a local forum I'm on a lot Racing Southwest (RSW). The Nissan employees he spoke with said the US version wasn't going to be the same as the Japanese twin turbo version...Hopefully, that's not the case!

Maybe the guy was saying the U.S. wouldn't get it just as a cover up? Do you think he would really want to give out secrets about the car that has been developed under a great amount of secrecy?


ANOTHER PROTOTYPE SPOTTED IN CALI!!!!.....
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/69778-gt-r-spotted-new-mexico-2.html#post622373

Full-Lock
02-12-2007, 11:51 AM
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/andy2_v/Posting/gtr_2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/andy2_v/Posting/gtr_1.jpg

SimpleS14
02-13-2007, 08:32 AM
SPY VIDEO!!!!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=119564#6

Looks nice in motion.....

fromxtor
02-13-2007, 08:56 AM
Here's some new R&T info on it:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/image/2007/Q1/1222007192320.jpg
Today I thumbed through this mont's R&T. Anyways it has the '08 GTR on the front in orange. There was a small article on it, said nissan was planning on letting it out end of this year, they had confirmed the new GTR emblem and the powerplant Vq37dett which will also be offered in a detuned version in the G35 coupe. 6 speed getrag box and a bunch of other goodies.

Photos of a masked Nissan GT-R lapping the Nürburgring last fall received more hits on the Internet than Miss USA did after a night out on the town. The reason: Despite its expected price tag of about $70,000, the GT-R will be the most alluring Japanese sports machine to come our way since the Acura NSX in the mid-1990s. Previously sold only in Japan, the GT-R (Skyline GT-R as it was formerly known) has been an icon to boy racers and aftermarket tuners alike since the R32 appeared in 1989. The upcoming version, which will hit dealer showrooms in late 2007 or early 2008, will be the first model marketed worldwide, thus the first official version available in the U.S. Nissan has remained mum regarding this sixth-generation model, but we have discovered some interesting new tidbits about the car.

Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn confirmed that the GT-R will be built in Japan. The chassis will be assembled in the company's Tochigi factory while the powerplant will be produced at its Yokohama engine plant. The official logo for the car has also been released. As for the performance of the GT machine, here's what we know so far.

Power will come from a 3.7-liter version of Nissan's VQ powerplant. A pair of turbochargers will help it produce about 450 bhp and 360 lb.-ft. of torque. Because longtime fans of the GT-R are accustomed to more output via aftermarket tuning, Nissan has seemingly left some room on the table for buyers wanting to increase the power of their GT-Rs.

Stock boost pressure will be limited to about 10 psi, but we hear that the engine is capable of handling a lot more. A tamer version of this V-6, codenamed VQ37HR-TT, will make its way into the upcoming Infiniti G35 Coupe. Key differences between the engines are that the GT-R's VQ will have the twin turbo­chargers, lighter pistons and connecting rods, as well as a beefed-up crankshaft. Other custom parts may make their way into the engine, including racing profile camshafts and new valvetrain. It will come mated to a Getrag 6-speed transmission or a paddle-shift sequential automatic with seven or eight gears.

The GT-R will have awesome stopping power, especially if it wears the same brakes spotted during testing at the Ring. Gold-colored Brembo calipers sparkled in the sun as the GT-R attacked the famed Nordschleife. Upon closer inspection, the fronts appeared to be 6-pot calipers. As for the car's handling, we're pretty sure that it will be all-wheel drive, with a new version of Nissan's ATTESA system. For the record, the car had little trouble negotiating the Carousel at more than 110 mph. Its lap times were reported to be around 8 minutes flat, quite impressive for a test mule on a somewhat crowded track. Could it match or eclipse the Porsche 911 Turbo's time in the 7-minute-40-second range in an all-out effort? The answer awaits us in just a few months. — SM

Yuri
02-13-2007, 10:12 AM
hmm, sounds like the G35 could be the new skyline GTS.
An FR G35 with that motor, and a lower price tag than the GTR just may be the ticket.
But the Kabura MX4 is still appealing, especially a turbocharged Mazdaspeed variant.

It looks like we're entering a new sportscar renissance, much like we did back in the early 90's. We have Evo's, STi's, a new Supra, the Kabura, the GTR, the Z, and the Solstice/Sky, among others.
I just hope the automakers can learn from the mistakes they made back then that combined with the rise of SUV's killed off the sports car in the US for a while.
We saw the 240SX, 300ZX, RX7, Supra, and 3000GT all fall due to being packed with technology and being priced out of their market.
I see this trend starting to rear it's ugly head again, with only the Kabura and GM roadsters appearing to remain at an affodable level for the average enthusiast, with the prices on Evos and others rising as the years go on. Hopefully this new generation oof sports cars won't relive the mistakes their forefathers had.

drift freaq
02-13-2007, 10:19 AM
hmm, sounds like the G35 could be the new skyline GTS.
An FR G35 with that motor, and a lower price tag than the GTR just may be the ticket.
But the Kabura MX4 is still appealing, especially a turbocharged Mazdaspeed varient.
Yuri the G35 coupe is a Skyline GTS, in Japan already. Has been the whole time its been here.

As for your comment about the pricing on sports cars goes, now is a different time than the early 90's.
In the early 90's the American buying public was not prepared to spend 30-40k on a Japanese Sports car or Luxury car. Today the spend 30-40k on a Japanese sports car without blinking an eye and more on Japanese luxury cars. The market is ready for the upper line stuff. Remember we have the 350z and its topping out at around 35k and can be had new for as little as 26k. The GTR is a whole different catagory and will be a limited production run to start. It will sell. EVO's and STI's are not true sports cars anways they are glorified econobox's that have been turned into Pro Rally cars. They are Sports Sedans!! A sporty car but not a true Sports car. Supra and Kabura look like the will be the real deal but until both companies officially put them on table, its like talking about another Silvia.
Solstice/Sky are just a classic example of how while GM makes the Corvette and does it pretty close to right they screw up in the smaller roadster class and make a big ugly little piece of shit. aka solstice/sky.

exitspeed
02-13-2007, 10:41 AM
^
Wow you actually think the Solstice and Sky are ugly? Yea they are little heavy and can't compete in the twisties with MX-5 , but their cheaper, less common, and 10x better looking. And the MX-5 doesn't offer anything like the Redline or the GXP. The MX-5 cannot compete with either of those versions.

The int of both are major suckage, but the over-all package more then makes up for it IMO. A 260hp, RWD, vert at $30 is a basement bargin.

OptionZero
02-13-2007, 11:54 AM
Yeah, the Solstice/Sky actually look pretty good. Hell, they look better than the new Miata or anything from Toyota, certainly better than any current Nissan bar the GT-R.

TiNMAN
02-13-2007, 12:25 PM
Tundra, Tundra, Tundra.

annnnnnnd...

Titan, Titan, Titan.



:aw:

0100
02-13-2007, 01:04 PM
Solstice/Sky FTMFW!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw6zzz2219Y&mode=related&search=

^Set of $5k motons and drop it 2 inches and I would take that over the GTR.

Yuri
02-13-2007, 01:42 PM
Yuri the G35 coupe is a Skyline GTS, in Japan already. Has been the whole time its been here.

Yep, I know. But it really hasn't had the flavor of the R34 GTS, whereas a turbo version would have more of a sports car spirit.

Check out the Dodge Demon! There is yet another contender coming to the sportscar wars!

chibo
02-13-2007, 02:36 PM
Solstice/Sky FTMFW!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw6zzz2219Y&mode=related&search=

^Set of $5k motons and drop it 2 inches and I would take that over the GTR.
They aren't even comparable, dipknob.

I heard this today from a reliable source:
My buddy who works over at Infineon just called me to tell me that the new Skyline GT-R is testing at Infineon right now. He is a race car mechanic and doesn't like street cars. However he said he was impressed by this one. According to him they are running the IMSA turn 7 with no bottleneck and the fastest lap he recorded the car doing was a 1:51.717. They had a factory Porsche GT-2 on track with it and the Skyline was pulling on the GT-2 everywhere.
This thing is a beast.

SimpleSexy180
02-13-2007, 03:22 PM
whats a dipknob? lol

chibo
02-13-2007, 03:31 PM
whats a dipknob? lol
I'm not too sure :rofl: :fawkd:

EchoOfSilence
02-13-2007, 04:31 PM
that... would be a dildo
haha!

0100
02-13-2007, 05:00 PM
They aren't even comparable, dipknob.



Yeah the ls7 solstice is half the price and will hand the stock GTR it's ass. So you are right they aren't even comparable, dipknob. :bigok:

SimpleSexy180
02-13-2007, 05:48 PM
that... would be a dildo
haha!

ahhhh like my shift knob. i get it now!


http://a941.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/18/l_0a6e47626c5989a2504dd9b54b3a405c.jpg


I do like that solstice. sounds like a beast <3

SimpleS14
02-13-2007, 06:01 PM
That Solstice is nice indeed....but its not something I would daily drive like the GT-R.

Yuri
02-13-2007, 06:36 PM
Yeah the ls7 solstice is half the price and will hand the stock GTR it's ass. So you are right they aren't even comparable, dipknob. :bigok:
Umm, LS7 Solstice is made by Mallet, not Pontiac.

chibo
02-13-2007, 07:52 PM
Yeah the ls7 solstice is half the price and will hand the stock GTR it's ass. So you are right they aren't even comparable, dipknob. :bigok:
A. The LS7 Solstice isn't a factory car.
B. They're in different classes of cars. A rwd roadster wouldn't even be considered by someone buying a fucking awd turbo coupe. By your logic someone should buy a fucking shifter kart with a gsxr1000 engine because it owns them both and costs 1/4th the price, since they're comparable and all :keke:

0100
02-13-2007, 07:56 PM
When did I ever say it was made by pontiac. I know about Mallet and they did not build that car. They do build some sick cars though. That solstice LS7 was built by GM.

chibo
02-13-2007, 08:01 PM
When did I ever say it was made by pontiac. I know about Mallet and they did not build that car. They do build some sick cars though. That solstice LS7 was built by GM.
I was under the impression that it was built by Hot Rod Magazine :keke:

0100
02-13-2007, 08:02 PM
A. The LS7 Solstice isn't a factory car.
B. They're in different classes of cars. A rwd roadster wouldn't even be considered by someone buying a fucking awd turbo coupe. By your logic a fucking shifter kart with a gsxr1000 engine owns them both since it hands both of their asses to them on a silver platter, since they're comparable and all :keke:

No a shifter Kart isn't road legal. When I look to buy a high performance car for the road all I look at is performance. I am selling my formula car, truck and trailer and buying one nice car. I am not sure what it is looking at everything out there, not going to just look at turbo AWD cars or NA FR cars. I look at them all then make a decision. I am considering a GTR but also a FR roadster also a rear engine rear wheel drive NA porsche, also a rear engine AWD turbo porsche. Why would someone just limit themselves to a AWD coupe when looking to buy a high performance car.

0100
02-13-2007, 08:03 PM
Ok giggles. http://www.gmperformancedivision.com/content/pulse/53/L57_Solstice_Tech_Article_v2.pdf

Sorry pdf I hate them...

chibo
02-13-2007, 08:08 PM
Ok giggles. http://www.gmperformancedivision.com/content/pulse/53/L57_Solstice_Tech_Article_v2.pdf

Sorry pdf I hate them...
http://www.hotrod.com/projectbuild/hdrp_0605_pontiac_solstice_project_v8_engine_build/
"GMPD would provide technical guidance to make sure the job was done right. "
No a shifter Kart isn't road legal. When I look to buy a high performance car for the road all I look at is performance. I am selling my formula car, truck and trailer and buying one nice car. I am not sure what it is looking at everything out there, not going to just look at turbo AWD cars or NA FR cars. I look at them all then make a decision. I am considering a GTR but also a FR roadster also a rear engine rear wheel drive NA porsche, also a rear engine AWD turbo porsche. Why would someone just limit themselves to a AWD coupe when looking to buy a high performance car.
You're part of the minority, hardcore car enthusiasts, Nissan doesn't have to advertise to your/my demographic because they make the choice themselves based on numbers/looks, they have to worry about the average person who wants a fucking awesome car and has the money to drop on it. The average person looking at a GT-R won't glance at a domestic vert.

0100
02-13-2007, 08:18 PM
Yeah that was the team GMPD put together to build the car. GMPD is just a bunch of engineers. What does it matter who put it together. It a GM car with a GM motor. It's a GM car that you can put together if you wish, but why does it have to be a factory car. RX-7/LS7 car is on my list as is ZO6. Who the hell cares if it is factory. Why does that even matter?! Seriously why?

chibo
02-13-2007, 08:23 PM
Yeah that was the team GMPD put together to build the car. GMPD is just a bunch of engineers. What does it matter who put it together. It a GM car with a GM motor. It's a GM car that you can put together if you wish, but why does it have to be a factory car. RX-7/LS7 car is on my list as is ZO6. Who the hell cares if it is factory. Why does that even matter?! Seriously why?
It doesn't, it's just that your train of thought would lead me to think that there is always a way to go faster/quicker for less money... so it's an endless loop.
And uh..... LS7 + FD ftw. That's sorta where I'm going, except I'm too poor for an LS7 so it gets an LS1.

0100
02-13-2007, 08:24 PM
You're part of the minority, hardcore car enthusiasts, Nissan doesn't have to advertise to your/my demographic because they make the choice themselves based on numbers/looks, they have to worry about the average person who wants a fucking awesome car and has the money to drop on it. The average person looking at a GT-R won't glance at a domestic vert.

I agree that 99% of the people who can afford a GTR doesn't have a fully built 240sx/ls7 or rx7/ls7 as other options of cars to by/build.

0100
02-13-2007, 08:27 PM
And uh..... LS7 + FD ftw. That's sorta where I'm going, except I'm too poor for an LS7 so it gets an LS1.

:bigok: LS1 as you know can be built for some serious hp. I just want the dry sump system that the LS7 has. Big money but prices are coming down.

drift freaq
02-13-2007, 08:39 PM
^
Wow you actually think the Solstice and Sky are ugly? Yea they are little heavy and can't compete in the twisties with MX-5 , but their cheaper, less common, and 10x better looking. And the MX-5 doesn't offer anything like the Redline or the GXP. The MX-5 cannot compete with either of those versions.

The int of both are major suckage, but the over-all package more then makes up for it IMO. A 260hp, RWD, vert at $30 is a basement bargin.
Yes I actually think they are ugly. Why because the bodywork is to tall for a roadster. Yes I don't like the 350z roadster for that very reason. Its like the convertable was a complete afterthought. I hate current Miata's as well so don't try to rope me into liking them. I said nothing about them.
Basically I have said this elsewhere I will say this here from a design standpoint the Solstice/Sky is a classic example of GM taking a brilliant idea and fucking it up. The only thing GM even gets close to getting right is the C6 Corvette.
P.S. Don't get me started on the Dodge Demon its about as ugly as the Chrysler Crossfire. Seriously someone needs to send the American car design engineers back to design school or fire their asses.
Yes I have taste in Automobiles so live with it.

drift freaq
02-13-2007, 08:41 PM
When did I ever say it was made by pontiac. I know about Mallet and they did not build that car. They do build some sick cars though. That solstice LS7 was built by GM.
LOL Pontiac is GM. hahahaha , I am now starting to doubt any of your claims about the cars you own based on that gaf.

OptionZero
02-13-2007, 09:22 PM
Yes I don't like the 350z roadster for that very reason. Its like the convertable was a complete afterthought.

Wait...a nissan drift freaq doesn't think is the best thing ever?!!:aw:

I kid, I kid...

0100
02-14-2007, 06:54 AM
LOL Pontiac is GM. hahahaha , I am now starting to doubt any of your claims about the cars you own based on that gaf.

No way are you serious... pontiac is gm. Wow dude wow. lol

Try reading the thread again.

Umm, LS7 Solstice is made by Mallet, not Pontiac.

Yuri wrote this^. Implying I said it was made by pontiac.

When did I ever say it was made by pontiac. I know about Mallet and they did not build that car. They do build some sick cars though. That solstice LS7 was built by GM.

Then I wrote this, pointing out it was made by GM not Mallet. I know pontiac is part of GM but it's not a car you can buy off the showroom floor and that is what I assume Yuri was arguing. I was pointing out I never said it was made by pontiac(aka available of the showroom floor) because that shouldn't matter when buying a car.

Why don't you believe I own a formula car. Not that expensive. The fcar is a fraction of what a GTR is and it will run circles around it on most tracks.

ErpsRacing.com (http://www.erpsracing.com)

Happy v-day! :love:

chibo
02-14-2007, 07:47 AM
Indeed, happy valentines day. It just snowed 2ft last night and I have to go to the store to get flowers. fuck.

Yuri
02-14-2007, 09:48 AM
Mallet did build some LS6 powered Solstices (my bad, not LS7).
But the fact of the matter is, it is not a car that anyone could just walk into a dealership and buy. If we were going about just basing cars on performance and cost, and ignoring the whole ease of purchase part, than an LS7 powered Caterham Super 7 would be near the top of the list however unlikely.
Most people who would be interested in a GTR wouldn't consider a Solstice that would have to be custom built, and most likely wouldn't have a factory warranty.

exitspeed
02-14-2007, 09:48 AM
Yes I actually think they are ugly. Why because the bodywork is to tall for a roadster. Yes I don't like the 350z roadster for that very reason. Its like the convertable was a complete afterthought. I hate current Miata's as well so don't try to rope me into liking them. I said nothing about them.
Basically I have said this elsewhere I will say this here from a design standpoint the Solstice/Sky is a classic example of GM taking a brilliant idea and fucking it up. The only thing GM even gets close to getting right is the C6 Corvette.
.

I do think both would look better as a coupe and I wouldn't by the roadster version of either. I'd wait for a coupe.

I just don't get what "idea" they fucked up? They wanted to make a car (RWD, roadster)that competes with the Miata. They did and succeeded wildly on their first attempt. The only thing they fucked up on IMP is the weight. But then like most Domestics, they added a shit ton of power to compensate.

I'm not saying you're opinion sucks or anything like that, but I'm trying to understand your logic.

RUTH'LESSDET
02-14-2007, 10:28 AM
I think 70k-80k is terrible price when you have so many other us cars like the new camaro 500hp that gonna be like $45k,not to mention all the other cars that will be out by the time the gtr drops.

wasnt the r34 gtr something like 60k in japan though? 70-80k isnt that bad when u take account inflation and the fact that its gonna perform better

chibo
02-14-2007, 10:36 AM
I think 70k-80k is terrible price when you have so many other us cars like the new camaro 500hp that gonna be like $45k,not to mention all the other cars that will be out by the time the gtr drops.
500hp Camaro? Sure, with classic domestic interior, high weight, and shit handling. I think the GT-R will do fine, but I guess that's just me :2f2f:

WILDACEX187
02-14-2007, 10:56 AM
I think 70k-80k is terrible price when you have so many other us cars like the new camaro 500hp that gonna be like $45k,not to mention all the other cars that will be out by the time the gtr drops.

yea seriously who would compare a gtr with a camaro. gtr is being made to compete with porsches

EchoOfSilence
02-14-2007, 11:14 AM
I don't believe the camaro will handle like shit

chibo
02-14-2007, 11:25 AM
I don't believe the camaro will handle like shit
Compared to the GT-R or 997 Turbo? He was implying competition by mentioning the Camaro... From personal experience the 997 Turbo is probably the best handling car I've ever driven, not in terms of the Evo/STi which have ungodly amounts of grip but overall feel. Unless they do something major then the Camaro will probably feel like a big boat in comparison... though at 45k it's competition for the M3. Let's not even compare an M3 to a Camaro.

drift freaq
02-14-2007, 11:39 AM
I do think both would look better as a coupe and I wouldn't by the roadster version of either. I'd wait for a coupe.

I just don't get what "idea" they fucked up? They wanted to make a car (RWD, roadster)that competes with the Miata. They did and succeeded wildly on their first attempt. The only thing they fucked up on IMP is the weight. But then like most Domestics, they added a shit ton of power to compensate.

I'm not saying you're opinion sucks or anything like that, but I'm trying to understand your logic.
Mel, I said they look ugly period, from a design perspective . Now if you can't understand that fine. I am looking at it from the aspect of does the body sit to high in relation to the overall size of the car, which it does IMHO. As much as other design aspects of the cars body. As far as I am concerned the car can drive great but if it looks like shit it looks like shit . this thread deserves to die.

exitspeed
02-14-2007, 12:11 PM
Mel, I said they look ugly period, from a design perspective . Now if you can't understand that fine. I am looking at it from the aspect of does the body sit to high in relation to the overall size of the car, which it does IMHO. As much as other design aspects of the cars body. As far as I am concerned the car can drive great but if it looks like shit it looks like shit . this thread deserves to die.

You have a right to your opinion, that's fine. I was just asking for more clarification, that's all. I agree with you on the height of the body. I'd prefer a lower beltline and a lower dash like the 240, but because of safety standards and the platforms cars now-a-days are built on, it's a thing of the past.

And honestly this thread should not die. It should keep going. Then hopefully we won't have 10 new threads a week about the "New GTR".

I like debating with you.

0100
02-14-2007, 12:17 PM
drift freaq we are all just debating that's what off topic forums are for. Don't stress over this just enjoy the debate and the fact that everyone has different opinions.

SimpleS14
02-14-2007, 12:41 PM
drift freaq we are all just debating that's what off topic forums are for. Don't stress over this just enjoy the debate and the fact that everyone has different opinions.


Sure we can debate and what not..but in the proper thread. You guys really took this thread off topic, nobody even commented on the spy video haha

Speaking of which...I like those seats in one of the spy pics:

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/future/09.nissan.skyline/skyline.front.3.500.jpg



LETS GET BACK ON TRACK (or just don't post anymore) :bigok:

chibo
02-14-2007, 12:47 PM
Sure we can debate and what not..but in the proper thread. You guys really took this thread off topic, nobody even commented on the spy video haha

Speaking of which...I like those seats in one of the spy pics:

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/future/09.nissan.skyline/skyline.front.3.500.jpg



LETS GET BACK ON TRACK (or just don't post anymore) :bigok:
Awe shit, those look nice. Wonder if that's hard plastic like on the stock Evo seats, I had to ditch them because they were right where my girlfriend's head was :-/

exitspeed
02-14-2007, 12:51 PM
Sure we can debate and what not..but in the proper thread. You guys really took this thread off topic, nobody even commented on the spy video haha
LETS GET BACK ON TRACK (or just don't post anymore) :bigok:

Yea, my bad.

I seen the video a day or so before you posted it here. The car sounds sooo sick. Sexual like Randy Watson!

BOROSUN
02-14-2007, 06:28 PM
sweet spy vids. i cant wait till BMI get their hands on one. f430, gt2 or gt3, nsx-r, evo, r34, or whatever they can throw at it gtr battle.

WILDACEX187
02-14-2007, 07:18 PM
sweet spy vids. i cant wait till BMI get their hands on one. f430, gt2 or gt3, nsx-r, evo, r34, or whatever they can throw at it gtr battle.

lol yea i love those.

Unholy S14
02-14-2007, 08:02 PM
more pics with info
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikefield/sets/72157594528020753/

blackcoupe
02-15-2007, 12:30 AM
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=119599?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1

it was at infineon!!

BOROSUN
02-15-2007, 04:29 AM
i did some searching who drove the car.

DRIVERS: TOSHIO SUZUKI
Name: Toshio Suzuki
Nationality: Japan
Date of birth: March 10, 1955 - Saitamma
Toshio Suzuki was a successful single seater driver in Japan. He won the 1979 Japanese Formula 3 title and then raced regularly in Japanese F2 and Formula 3000. He finished runner-up in the series to Mauro Martini in 1992 and was a front-runner again in 1993. At the end of that year - at the age of 38 - he found backing to drive the second Larrousse-Lamborghini. He finished 12th in Japan and 14th in Australia.
Suzuki also enjoyed a successful career as a Toyota sportscar driver in national events.
http://www.nissan.co.jp/Lemans/drivers/suzuki.gif

checkout the cool link gallaryhttp://www.nissan.co.jp/Lemans/

look...who is that guy close to the #84 nsx? hahah
http://www.nissan.co.jp/Lemans/Library/verification/No.46_47_84_Honda.GIF

exitspeed
02-15-2007, 07:27 AM
Man I wish we could see some lap times vs that 911 Turbo!

Unholy S14
02-16-2007, 08:03 AM
!!! GTR TO COST 60K !!!

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/FREE/60814018/1041

exitspeed
02-16-2007, 08:47 AM
^
Unfortunately that article hasn't been updated since August. Though that would be a great price, I don't think that article is accurate. Until I see a press release from Nissan, it's all assumption.

Unholy S14
02-16-2007, 10:16 AM
sorry didnt notice that

drift freaq
02-16-2007, 10:30 AM
drift freaq we are all just debating that's what off topic forums are for. Don't stress over this just enjoy the debate and the fact that everyone has different opinions.
listen, I don't like you telling me about forums like your some old school premie when your a red squared newb. On top of that I was not stressiing, but you are annoying me!

P.S. to bring it back on track the Spy shot from the front looks pretty sick. Those seats do indead look dope.

EchoOfSilence
02-16-2007, 10:38 AM
i think it still sits a little too high

Unholy S14
02-16-2007, 12:37 PM
The return of Godzilla

this guy was very impressed

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140228

santacruisin
02-16-2007, 02:34 PM
^
Unfortunately that article hasn't been updated since August. Though that would be a great price, I don't think that article is accurate. Until I see a press release from Nissan, it's all assumption.

Not to mention that the markup on the car is gonna be insane b/c it will be brand new and have a mountain of hype behind it. I'm guessing it'll be around the 70-80K mark.

I'm just gonna ignore it until 2013. Then I might actually be able to afford a used one.

exitspeed
02-16-2007, 03:54 PM
The return of Godzilla

this guy was very impressed

http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140228

Damn I wanna see pics of the black one. i'm sick of seeing that silver one now.

WILDACEX187
02-16-2007, 03:59 PM
i think that silver one is the one we're seeing everywhere. wonder wat differs the track model and regular one have

WILDACEX187
02-16-2007, 08:09 PM
this car is everywhere http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=119599

SimpleS14
02-16-2007, 08:56 PM
Anyone notice the wider rims in the rear?

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q140/g35wtwins/GTR/GTRClosefrontquarter.jpg

OptionZero
02-16-2007, 09:24 PM
At first I thought it was odd for an AWD to have staggered wheels (the EVO, STi, R32/33/34 all have same on all 4 corners).

Did a little checking: Gallardo is an MR/AWD, comes with 19x8.5 and 19x11 stagger.

I guess it's all in the AWD system's programming.

0100
02-17-2007, 01:08 AM
Yeah I am pretty sure the 996 turbo and 997 turbo run a staggered setup also.

coreansurfer
02-17-2007, 02:30 AM
isnt it because the evos and wrxs have symetical awd, while the gtr has a heavy rear bias?

SimpleS14
02-17-2007, 09:47 AM
MORE SPY PICS AND VID!!!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=119632

You can clearly see the two recirculating BOVs in this pic:
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/future/09.nissan.skyline.gtr/gtr.eng.close.500.jpg

Paddle shifter:
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/future/09.nissan.skyline.gtr/gtr.int.close.500.jpg

<3

S13FREEAAK
02-17-2007, 10:03 AM
Does anyone want to buy a 600whp S13 in 2008? Cause I'll be looking to sell it for a down payment on one of these.

origin_s135
02-17-2007, 12:01 PM
Does anyone want to buy a 600whp S13 in 2008? Cause I'll be looking to sell it for a down payment on one of these.

i think i'll do the same!

OptionZero
02-17-2007, 02:00 PM
isnt it because the evos and wrxs have symetical awd, while the gtr has a heavy rear bias?

Yes, the GTR can send most, nearly all of its power to the rear wheels..IIRC the R34 starts out 100% RWD and only sends power up front when needed.

I don't believe the EVOs and STi/WRX can send more than half to the rear, maybe 65%?

BOROSUN
02-17-2007, 05:58 PM
it should come with a manual torque split controller, that would be sweet. for its price it should.

WILDACEX187
02-17-2007, 10:54 PM
it should come with a manual torque split controller, that would be sweet. for its price it should.

u mean like the thing they use in this video at 6:04? http://youtube.com/watch?v=BxUUYWpAF08

exitspeed
02-19-2007, 07:56 AM
You can clearly see the two recirculating BOVs in this pic:
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/future/09.nissan.skyline.gtr/gtr.eng.close.500.jpg

<3

Too bad when it's released that beauty will be covered with all kinds of crap plastic.

SimpleS14
04-19-2007, 06:18 PM
Bumping this thread to say that bits of the interior has been shown in these recent spy shots:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-gt-r-future.html

exitspeed
05-10-2007, 12:15 PM
New Scans of the GTR!!!! The rear looks very Ferrari-ish.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/evo2.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/gtr1.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/evo310.jpg
http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/nissan-gt-r-models-scans/238555/

RiversideS13
07-18-2007, 05:43 PM
another video of GTR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEWFlIED2Go&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcarscoop%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F2007 %2F07%2Fvideo%2D2008%2Dnissan%2Dgt%2Dr%2Dfilmed%2D at%2Ehtml

Kn1ves
07-18-2007, 05:50 PM
from the same link as above
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/78207-official-nissan-gtr-2008-thread-photos-video-inside-goodwood.html

http://www.blowdogfiles.com/08gtr/06b.jpg
http://www.blowdogfiles.com/08gtr/11b.jpg