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joshchewuhh
01-21-2007, 11:20 AM
ok soo i am ready to buy some new coilovers! I am looking at the Tanabe sustec pro ss with the helper spring. my car is a daily driver soo i want comfort but when it comes to track day the adjustability. I also live like 2 minutes away from tanabe headquarters, so that is a plus to buy them. well if you have any feedback on these coilovers i would appreciate it. thanks

OptionZero
01-21-2007, 12:29 PM
comfort and track don't really go together, and comfort is subjective anyways

First of all, search

Second, you need to ride in coilovers to see if you want to live with them

Third, search more about coilovers generally

Rayne
01-21-2007, 01:35 PM
comfort and track don't really go together, and comfort is subjective anyways

First of all, search

Second, you need to ride in coilovers to see if you want to live with them

Third, search more about coilovers generally

Quoted for truth

Go with Tanabe Pro SeVen instead. The Pro SeVen coilovers will offer you the adjustability you are looking for. Anyway....as quoted above....do more research before you purchase coilovers you may not like in end.

joshchewuhh
01-21-2007, 07:14 PM
i rode in a car with seven's, it was freaking brutal..but im still reserching anyone have the sustec ss's?

Taniguchi_Is_#1
01-21-2007, 09:40 PM
well... i don't have pro-ss, but my gab revostrokes have the same spring rates (8/6) and rear helper springs. the the ride is rough, so if you still want a non-jarring ride on rough roads, don't get coils. you're gonna have to make a trade off for the performance. hope that helps out.

OptionZero
01-21-2007, 09:49 PM
1. You can't compare coilovers just be spring rate. Damping affects ride quality (how "bouncy"). Check out Sizzoo's comparison between Apexi' Ex-V's and Megan Streets...8/6 rates and same externally, but distinguished by valving.

2. You talk about "adjustability at the track" without telling us what sort of driving you do. Drift? AutoX? Drag? Grip?

3. It's pretty clear you aren't very knowledgable about coilovers and suspension overall. SEARCH for the coilovers you want, SEARCH about other options in your price range, and GOOGLE about suspension overall.

4. Go to the regional forums and ASK for rides in various coilovers.

5. Come back here and tell us what you you've learned and how it will affect those in similar situations. Contribute, don't just stick your goddamn hand out .

sultan
01-21-2007, 10:07 PM
i've got the pro ss w/helper springs on my s13, even at full stiff they're pretty soft. i've always run full stiff on the street and i have them as low as they can go with the lock collars removed, but it's not really that low since they're lame single height adjustable coilovers. my q45 on stock springs rode stiffer than my s13 with these at full stiff.

for a mostly street car i guess they're ok, i only have them cause they were on the car when i bought it. i need to buy some new shit :(

Rayne
01-21-2007, 10:11 PM
i rode in a car with seven's, it was freaking brutal..but im still reserching anyone have the sustec ss's?

Did you ask the driver if the seven were the "Hard Driving" version? Or did you assume all seven coilovers where the same?

Did you ask about dampening the driver had it set on?

I ask you this because of the entire Tanabe coilover lineup the SeVens have the capability to used for daily driving one moment and track the next moment. http://www.rd-tanabe.com/lineup/sustec/pro_seven/index.html

After looking over the Tanabe (Japan) website...it looks as if the Pro SS coilovers are discontinued if not about to be discontinued. Someone from Tanabe can confirm or refute that. Quite honestly...I do not have the time, nor do I care to call. Personally speaking...I am not going to use Tanabe suspension products on my 240sx as it is.

So anyway...you can take everything I have said as you see fit. I am done talking about Tanabe.

teamslut
01-21-2007, 10:18 PM
yup they are discontinued.

enen11
01-22-2007, 12:31 AM
front doesn't go that low able fit2 fingers. rear has 1 finger gap. pro ss are pretty soft and bouncy

BigVinnie
01-24-2007, 11:37 PM
Tanabe sustec pro's are good coil overs. After all they are designed by KYB, which is the largest JDM manufacturer of shocks and coil overs. People sometimes don't accept the price tag, but overall they are worth the reliability.
If it's soft and bouncy you want a different spring rate combo, overall the dampener is fine.

sideview_180sx
01-25-2007, 02:41 AM
go with the regular SeVens. make sure to get the TEAS system and it adjusts the stiffness comparibly to the speed you are driving.

MrMigs
01-25-2007, 03:04 AM
i rode in a car with seven's, it was freaking brutal..but im still reserching anyone have the sustec ss's?

Yea I have the SS's in my 14. I see you're in Torrance; I might be heading over there this weekend - you can test drive it or whatever around the block if you want.

atom
01-25-2007, 04:21 AM
Tanabe SS is being replaced by the Five same way DD/RR was replaced by Seven.

GSXRJJordan
01-25-2007, 06:26 AM
I've got the Seven's (not Hard Driving, but even the regulars are still 10/8 rates), and I have to say they're worlds more comforable at my "street" settings (right in the middle on the front, one click stiffer than middle on the rear) than any other coilovers I've ridden on, and I've ridden on all the cheap stuff, as well as JICs, Silk Roads, and Stances - not Zeals or Cuscos though. I have a Z06 vette (my Dads) to benchmark with, and have been tuning my suspension to get as close to Z06 as I can, and I actually think that these dampers can get me better characteristics on the street and the track than the Z06.

Its true that over potholes/driveway curbing/etc the coils remind you that you're not running stock springs, but the regular road bumps/freeway/etc get sucked up quite nicely by the dampers. Turn-in is easy, and when you hit bumps mid turn, the dampers dont bounce you to the outside. I love the ride around town.

When it comes to the track, it's two clicks stiffer front and back, and you're set to go. I've never run them full stiff, but I've gone pretty close, and it is a FAR cry from Medium settings - there's A LOT of adjustment in these dampers.

The long and short of it is if you can get a decent deal on Sevens (I got mine for $100 more than Silk Roads would have cost me), do it ~ they'll give you the flexibility you want. I haven't gotten the TEAS yet, but those who have it say it makes these coils even sweeter (too bad it's like 25% of the cost of the coils).

joshchewuhh
01-26-2007, 01:55 PM
thanksss for all the response and yes i am looking at the seVens now...just one more paycheck to go. what settings do you run on the 7's ? seems like jeffmilano is using 10/8

GSXRJJordan
01-26-2007, 07:30 PM
10/8 is the spring rate for the normal ones, 12/10 is the spring rate for the 'hard driving' ones. I've tracked a Formula D car on the Megan racing 12/10 coils, and holy shit they're rediculously bad for anything except a smooth race track. Dont get the hard driving if you're driving on the street.

Tell us how you like the Sevens when you get em, and PM me what ya pay for em if you dont mind, I'm always tryin to see if I got as good a deal as I thought I did :)

1Via!
01-26-2007, 07:39 PM
Sevens are fuckin awesome compared to my stances, which I enjoy on my daily driver.

If I were to get new coilovers, i would get Sevens.

joshchewuhh
01-26-2007, 10:07 PM
haha yea i was debating between stances and the sevens a pretty big price difference, and yes i know 10/8 is standard and i wouldnt go with the HD just too stiff for a daily driver. thanks for the help