nitrous oxide???

[stil bil]

anybody on here running any type of nitrous setup??  

no flaming please

if so what brand what size shot how much it cost and wether you like it or not???

[stil bil]

do you guys not believe that using it is right or what??

[tnord]

NOS is as gay as AIDS

[SR20Fastback]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ July 18 2002,2:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">NOS is as gay as AIDS</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
ahahah oh thats really funny for some reason.


Stil Bil I believe PSI240sx uses some or he was going to, maybe it was boostedS14 PM them and ask.

[hopeful]

How about a nitrous system with a turbo? anybody on that bandwagon?

[240sxtreme]

stil bil....a few people...not sure any on this board do use nitrous...if you can't find anyone here...check out the FA board....I know there's at least a few. Duy's old car was using nitrous for lowend, till his turbo kicked in. and I remember an guy back in 99-2000 on the 240sx.org email list who was in the 12's with his KA on nitrous.(he rebuilt his engine many times he said.) he was running crazy amounts.

also, a lot of people on this board do think of it as cheating...my personal belief is that it's fine if you have built your engine for it, and tell people before you race how much(street or track), and let them look at your car, especially if you're throwing money into the race. I usually don't give people as much respect who run with nitrous as I would if they had FI or built NA, because usually, it's just some punk kid who bought a used kit off of a friend for 300 bucks, and threw it on his new civic or teg, and thinks that his car is fast...yes it does make it faster, but I could do the same to a Metro, it's like taking steroids for sporting events...yes it does make you stronger (sort of), but while other people are working their ass off building up their muscles, you're sitting on your ass playing Tomb Raider while popping pills.
Anyways..I digress. my point is, if it's used in conjunction with turbo or superchargers...and your engine is built...sure..it's acceptable. but just slapping a nitrous kit on your car and going...that won't gain respect from a lot of people.

[fodive]

hmm....very weel said 240sxtreme........great comparision (sp?) with steriods...its no fun to be beat by some dude who spent a couple hundred bucks on nitrous if you put a ouple thousand on an Sr or something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'>

[xhdriver]

why would nitrous be &nbsp;"cheating"?, thats retarded. is it bad just cause its cheap?

[JEdubz]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (xhdriver @ July 19 2002,01:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">why would nitrous be "cheating"?, thats retarded. is it bad just cause its cheap?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
N2o is a matter of quantity.... The more you are willing to damage your engine and take risks, the more you shoot... It isn't a normal mod since it's all based on quantity... Take this as a scenario... 2 stock... cars... both equal, both with nos One guy has a bigger shot than the other , so he wins. He damaged his engine more but he doesnt care because all her cares about is winning. The other person with the smaller shot feels cheated because he lost to someone who was willing to deteriorate his engine faster...
Or you could say 1 car with Nos, one with bolt os of the equivelent to the cost of the nos... The one with the n2o wins naturally because it makes his car faster.. While the other one who didn't damage his engine at all feels cheated because he wasnt willing to throw is engine away for a mod like that...


This all based on my personal oppinion... but the reason "I view" n2o as cheating is because it is rarely ever fair... It's a matter of who is willing to damage his engine more (which in all is what N2o does to your car... it always does, even the best kits are harder on your car then the equivelent in other mods)

[xhdriver]

i was saying that calling using nos "cheating" is retarded.
nos is not cheating.
properly tuned nos kits raise cylinder pressure to make more power just like turbos. if you have a properly tuned kit its not gonna hurt your motor any worse than adding a turbo would.

jedubz...you dont make much sense

so when you lose a race to someone squeezing, quit your crying and excuse making and hope you catch the bastard when his bottle is closed or empty

"naturaly NOSperated" <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

EDIT: i forgot to mention before my 240 i had a gsr powered civic with a 75 shot of nos,i was cheating so bad i ran a 12.1, i love nos and plan on squeezing on my sr soon. the first time i ever used the nos on my gsr i burnt a hole in my valve, i thinkit was just a weak valve, so i replaced then with stronger ones and never had a problem.:) &nbsp;that was a fun car

[ALTERED4]

that absolutely makes no sense(JE)... tha same could be said of a turbo... if you are willing to take the risk, you can always up the boost, most of the time its as easy as turning a knob...

i do not use n2o, nor do i have plans to do so, but cars that are built and using nitrous to get them excellent times have my upmost respect... they just choose to make their power using different methods...

at the end of a race (dragstrip, of course) whoever crosses the finish line wins, regardless of how they get there...

[SR20Fastback]

I dont know why im sitting here at 3:12 am posting about this, but here it goes. I think nitrous could be considered a form of cheating, but so can any forced induction car... The only reason I dislike nitrous (a lot) is because its not on all the time (yes I know turbos to function all the time so shuttup your mouthz <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> ) Anyways I dont really see a point in it with the exception of drag racing. The only time I would see nitrous to fit my needs is if I had a big enough turbo, that I would need something to get it spinning quicker. Maybe someday I'll have such a big turbo, that I'll need to shoot some "N4wZ" just to get it started in first gear... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

Alright bedtime for me, peace <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[240sxtreme]

again, I'm not sure if I'd classify it as cheating, but it definately doesn't gain a lot of respect in my book, or most people I know. &nbsp;Again, it's a lot like steroids, you've built your car to handle 250-300hp *all the time*...and some kid borrows a zex kit from his friend and throws 75 shot in. &nbsp;even if he wins...you're still gonna get the most respect...cause he's on borrowed time....

and tuned nitrous kits? &nbsp;I've yet to see any street car using nitrous be properly tuned. &nbsp;by tuning do you mean internally building the engine to handle the extra HP, or just tuned via the "kit". &nbsp;I think for a lot of people, it's a lot like rice...look at me...I gotta nawz kit in my car! &nbsp;honestly, if I see someone fully built NA, with a Nitrous kit...I'd give them props...but I've yet to see that. &nbsp;In fact, I know a guy who bout a TypeR..first thing he did was install nitrous.

[Foxcolt]

I used to have the zex kit no my KA before it blew. Was pretty fun. Was planning on SR since I bought the car so the Nitrous kit was just a little something to tide me over till I got the new motor.

Now about Nitrous. You don't need a fully built engine to run nos. "If" done right it IS like adding a SC or turbo. However most kits don't add the exact amount of fuel needed to properly run Nitrous. That's where the problems lies. My zex kit added the "exact" amount of fuel needed my cutting off vacuum to the FPR. Not very "exact" if you ask me.

It's all about the fuel. Retarding timming, playing with colder spark plugs gap etc... If done right nitrous can be your best friend. These universal kits zex,nitrous express, venom etc just arn't accurate enough to run safely for long periods of time.

If I had to do it again I would have gone wet setup, nos brand 75 shot efi kit, MSD timming advancer/retarder, colder plugs, fuel pressure gauge. Then I could run nitrous all day.

please don't knock something you've never tried before.

[240sxtreme]

okay, I apologize, I was really making myself clear, when I say it doesn't gain as much respect, is because the usual nitrous users, who are NA and using nitrous, are usually the kids on the street who throw a zex, venom, etc. kit on their car and call it good. &nbsp;If done right, then it wouldn't be "just" nitrous, it'll also have other parts to "tune" it right. &nbsp;as you stated.

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and this is what I mean by a car being tuned. That wouldn't be your average nitrous kit that most people would be putting in.

And for internals...I was assuming that if someone seriously wants to run nitrous, they wouldn't just be putting in 50-75 shot. the 240sx guy that I previously mentioned was maybe in the high 11's, but definately 12's and he was running 2 stage nitrous, a lower amount for lowend, and a huge amount for high...I want to say 200-250...this was almost 2 years ago, on the old mailing list. but again, I *do* remember him saying he rebuilt his engine many times....

that guy I think deserves respect, because he's not just throwin a kit on his car. &nbsp;Also, he's admitting that he does have to rebuild, so we know he definately puts a lot of work into his car.

You're right, I haven't tried it. &nbsp;I've just seen, heard, and talked people who've used it. &nbsp;I've entertained the idea of nitrous on my KA many times...but I think how much money would have to go into it, and think how much money I'd be using that could have been saved for turbo.

also, I think Nitrous on the street has a bad ring to it in general, because usually, people try to hide it, and claim that they're beating you NA. I raced a MX6(using nitrous) at a "track" one night, just for the heck of it...so I wasn't really upset when he wasted me, just really suprised. &nbsp;What really upset me though was the way he acted afterwards. &nbsp;He then raced several other people including AWD TSI's, Turbo SHO's, etc. and he was claiming the only mod he had was no cat. &nbsp;Another example, a friend of mine with a SI raced a TypeR with I/H/E, and my friend was hiding 75 shot of nitrous. &nbsp;of course he beat the typeR...These are examples of the type of people I see running nitrous.