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Black240Chicago
07-16-2002, 05:39 PM
Is it possible to fit 18" Wheels on a S13 240SX?
If so how wide can i go in to front without sticking out of the fenders or scraping when turning?Front?Rear?
tnord
07-16-2002, 08:53 PM
yes...........but why?
Black240Chicago
07-16-2002, 08:58 PM
Because I want these rims and I want to know what size I can fit on my 240SX. So I dont buy them from japan and have them not fit. So how wide can I go? Front? Rear?
S13Grl
07-16-2002, 09:36 PM
Lol. But you live in Chicago....
sykikchimp
07-16-2002, 09:43 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (S13Grl @ July 16 2002,11:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Lol. But you live in Chicago....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
LOL...
Black240chicago - ok.. sorry, most folks around here don't use 18's b/c of the loss of performance. I'm sure you could get a 7.5 up front, and 8-8.5 out back.
hmmmmm... to be safe? I'd say stick to something in the 5.5" wide range. Try to get some high profile rubber too, you'll want to absorb all those little bumps without hurting your precious 18x5.5" rims. I suggest a 165/70/18 tire or thereabouts for maximum... uh... maximum... 'coolness'? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>
edit: what sykikchim said... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
S13Grl
07-16-2002, 10:45 PM
Lol <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>.
No such thing as a 5.5" rim in width.
Check your specs, adey.
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Black240Chicago, if you want 18" rims, you should probably buy a different car. No offense or anything, but you probably don't want something THAT heavy and huge on a 240 and especially not where we live with all the potholes and whatnot.
Do your car a favor and get it some 17x8s or something for the rear and 17x7s for the front. I wouldn't go that big in height, but I'll assume you're not too concerned with opt. perf. so... 17s would be the way to go for you.
Black240Chicago
07-16-2002, 10:53 PM
Thanks for the help. 17" is the way to go I am there.
Yosho
07-16-2002, 11:43 PM
I know the Auto Select S13 runs 18in TE37s. They look really nice on it too.
xhdriver
07-17-2002, 12:55 AM
whats so wrong with 18s, get off the guys case...
hookedup240
07-17-2002, 03:12 PM
I don't see the big problem with 18's i have 18's on my 91 fb and they look great i didn't lose much performance in the way of speed, but i did gain it in handling, i have 215/35/18 inch tires, If anyone wants to get 18's let them, the car looks so much better with them.
Black240Chicago- If you want to see what 18's looks like PM me and i'll send you pictures of my car.
btw and yes my car is lowered with eibach sportlines too.
tnord
07-17-2002, 06:43 PM
i'll tell you what's wrong with 18's.....
our car has 155 freakin hp. do you know how important weight is for performance? not to mention momentum. read FAQ much? probably not, i advise you take a look in there. i challenge you stunna's to find me record of a winning race car running 18's, and you can find examples from any series you like. you bling blingers might think that 18's make you handle better but you're lying to yourself because you just wasted upwards of 3 grand. 3 friggin grand? for a lot of you, another car could be purchased. yeah, great financial planning, i can see you will be an art major. my god, you can have a freakin turbo for what decent wheels and tires for 18's cost. as most of you know, i could rant much longer, but i won't.
note; if you can find 18's that are under 20lbs, that might be acceptable, but i doubt those are easy to find/cheap.
fodive
07-17-2002, 06:49 PM
hey tnord, not everyone is into performance, some people may care more about the looks of there car...and b4 you go off on someone, whyb dont you look where he says </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thanks for the help. 17" is the way to go I am there.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> just thought i'd show ya that...
BTW...i agree with you 100%
Yosho
07-17-2002, 10:02 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ July 17 2002,7:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i'll tell you what's wrong with 18's.....
our car has 155 freakin hp. do you know how important weight is for performance? not to mention momentum. read FAQ much? probably not, i advise you take a look in there. i challenge you stunna's to find me record of a winning race car running 18's, and you can find examples from any series you like. you bling blingers might think that 18's make you handle better but you're lying to yourself because you just wasted upwards of 3 grand. 3 friggin grand? for a lot of you, another car could be purchased. yeah, great financial planning, i can see you will be an art major. my god, you can have a freakin turbo for what decent wheels and tires for 18's cost. as most of you know, i could rant much longer, but i won't.
note; if you can find 18's that are under 20lbs, that might be acceptable, but i doubt those are easy to find/cheap.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Umm again, Auto Select in Japan runs 18's on their S13 Coupe. I think they look great. Not everyone has 155hp, or even a KA motor for that matter. Not everyone here chooses performance over looks. Some people here can afford 3k for wheels/tires.
Just because you don't like them/don't want them, don't go name calling (stunna's) and be abusive.
Edit: Found some specs on the Auto Select S13. They're running Volk TE37's 9.5J with 265-35-18's. Yes, they're using spacers.
I'll see if I can get some pics or a video or something up soon.
hookedup240
07-18-2002, 09:13 AM
Yea tnord our cars do have 155 hp, in my book that is not a powerful car to start off with, yea i agree 18's are not for racing or anything, but i really wasn't going too much for the way of performance, i wanted something different. When do you ever see 18 inch rims that cost 1600 not 3000 on a 91 240sx.
Yoshi
07-18-2002, 10:15 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (hookedup240 @ July 18 2002,08:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When do you ever see 18 inch rims that cost 1600 not 3000 on a 91 240sx.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I'm not choosing sides here, but u usually DON'T see $3000 rims on an s13 because it's seems pretty silly to most people to have rims that cost more than the car...
Granted there are always exceptions, like people who've already sunk 6k into a SR or something, but in general 90% of people wouldn't even consider it, 9% are Ricers, and the remaining 1% are people building up to something genuinely better, and their car is a constant project.
Given all people could gleen from the post, it's seemed very unlikely that the questions was posed by someone fitting that 1 percentile, I don't think tnord's post was without warrant, and certainly holds merit... zilvia has always been about performance and helping other 240 enthusiasts, let the guys only concerned with what the latest generation of altezza ripoffs look like hang at SRO.
hookedup240
07-18-2002, 11:01 AM
NO, i didn't mean for you guys to think that i am just concerned with looks i like performance too, i just went with big rims for something different i have spent alot of money on my car just like the rest of you, i just got my car looking good before i did other mods, i also have kyb agx's, springs, intake, n1 dual sitting in my garage, and hotshot headers, so i have pretty much a mix of both, you may not think 18" rims look good but i do, but yea if i could do it again i would have gotten 17's not because of the weight of them or anything but because i have already dented a rim with damn 35 series tires.
Tyler Durdan
07-18-2002, 01:50 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ July 16 2002,8:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i challenge you stunna's to find me record of a winning race car running 18's, and you can find examples from any series you like.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Audi R8 in the Le Mans series runs 18's I believe...they dominate it too. I may be wrong though.
Matt240SE
07-18-2002, 04:05 PM
I thought a 35 series tire was too small for our cars. I thought with an 18inch wheel you need a 40 series to keep the speedometer correct??
Personally I will be getting the 18 inch OZ Superleggera which is just at or under 18lbs, so I dont see how the performance can be hurt since they will weigh less than most of them knock-off 17inchers which usually weigh about 24lbs or more.
But hey I may go with 17 inch just forsake of tire cost, g-Force KDW's arent cheap...
hookedup240
07-18-2002, 04:12 PM
look at all the new cars that come with big rims, ex. 350z doesn't it have stock 18's, most new cars come with optional 17's and some 18's. This is because they look better than 15's and 16's and because of the performance aspect, smaller sidewalls, wider tires= better handling.
Think about it
tnord
07-18-2002, 04:18 PM
fodive - my post wasn't directed at the guy who started the topic, it was at hookedup240; "i don't see the big problem with 18's"
yosho - if auto select has 18's on their car, big friggin deal, they are a company that probably got those wheels/tires for next to nothing through sponsorships. this is a far cry from an individual spending that much $ for the same thing.
tyler - i'm very aware that there are a fair amount of race cars running 18's. the point was that these people that claim their 18's are for performance, obviously know nothing about the topic, aka stunna's.
matt - i'd love a set of 18'' OZ's, but the thing is, they aren't cheap, and tires are crazy expensive. not to mention the risk of damaging the wheel. but on the other hand, i saw a performance test between 15, 16, 17, 18 inch wheels, and 17's won.
in conclusion, you just can't justify the cost.
Matt240SE
07-18-2002, 04:26 PM
Very true the arent cheap at 320 or so a wheel I mean I would hate to have someone steal them. But i have been thouroghly thinking and I think i have decided the 17inch ones.
Also they are cheaper than CE28's that I want also. God I wish tires werent so expensive...does Rikyn make tires in the 17inches?? jk
Hey I dont know if this has been done or not but, think we can get a post going on Which tires you have had and how much you liked or disliked. Also if you used them for Autox or at the track or just daily driving. Well its just a thought.
tnord
07-18-2002, 07:47 PM
i think it's a good idea for a thread, it hasn't been brought up for a couple months. i'd have plenty of input.
Yosho
07-18-2002, 09:22 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ July 18 2002,5:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">fodive - my post wasn't directed at the guy who started the topic, it was at hookedup240; "i don't see the big problem with 18's"
yosho - if auto select has 18's on their car, big friggin deal, they are a company that probably got those wheels/tires for next to nothing through sponsorships. this is a far cry from an individual spending that much $ for the same thing.
tyler - i'm very aware that there are a fair amount of race cars running 18's. the point was that these people that claim their 18's are for performance, obviously know nothing about the topic, aka stunna's.
matt - i'd love a set of 18'' OZ's, but the thing is, they aren't cheap, and tires are crazy expensive. not to mention the risk of damaging the wheel. but on the other hand, i saw a performance test between 15, 16, 17, 18 inch wheels, and 17's won.
in conclusion, you just can't justify the cost.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hey, you're the one who said "i challenge you stunna's to find me record of a winning race car running 18's, and you can find examples from any series you like." I found you an example of exactly what you asked. As far as this being extreem for an average owner... sure it is! So are many many other things that people do to their cars. I mean, does anyone really need 300+rwhp in a street driven car? hell no, but lot's of s13/14 owners do it. I won't even get into how shocking it is that a race car might have sponsors. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>
If you're original point was that a smaller wheel generally has better performance over a larger one than you should of just said so instead of calling everyone who chooses 18's a "stunna" and being abusive. Getting back to it, why do you assume (without even a second thought) that a person who chooses 18's doesn't already know this and isn't just buying them because they look good?
tnord
07-18-2002, 09:35 PM
yosho.........do you have 18's?
Yosho
07-18-2002, 09:38 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot....4798179 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1844798179)
I'm sure it was the 18's that forced him to sell... broke the bank. Even a guy that's this crazy about performance decided to run 18's (probably because he thought they looked better.) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>
Why do you feel the need to judge other's instead of just spreading knowledge and letting them make their own decisions? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>
Yosho
07-18-2002, 11:33 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ July 18 2002,10:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yosho.........do you have 18's?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Nope, I don't have a need/want for 18's on any of the cars I currently own. Do you have 18's? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
Tyler Durdan
07-19-2002, 12:14 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ July 17 2002,6:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">tyler - i'm very aware that there are a fair amount of race cars running 18's. the point was that these people that claim their 18's are for performance, obviously know nothing about the topic, aka stunna's.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Your point has been recieved.
Archangel
07-19-2002, 07:35 AM
With the vast amount of knowledge and facts being slung back and forth about 18"s, its a wonder that the original question has hardly been answered.
My 2ยข - personal preference is just that, personal preference.
He simply wanted an answer to a technical question - hence the Teck Talk forum, not the chat forum.
I'm not saying you guys shouldn't be discussing what you are, but just pointing out that if you know the answer then you should tell him. If you want to throw in an opinion, that's fine, just give it to him with an answer.
(I'm not trying to get in the middle of anything, and I don't know the answer, but I just thought I'd point that out.)
Ok i know this aint about 18's but what do 95 240sx alloy wheels weigh? and is a 205/45/16 to small sence the car comes with 205/55/16's..... Also if I got 205/45/16's is there a way that a could reset the speedo to show the right speed?
Matt240SE
07-19-2002, 01:18 PM
Well you can put it on the car but the speedo will not be correct.
Here is a site anyone can use for tire sizes, Yes its off a miata site but you put in your original tire size and whatnot and you put in the new tire size and it will tell you how close your speedo will be off by , in percentages.
Tire Calculator (http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html)
Driftin_240sx
09-22-2002, 12:00 AM
hey i have 18x7.5" tenzo poke 10s all the way around with a little spacer in the front( a must without full coilovers).. and let me tell ya.. i got eibach sportlines and im still lookin like a offroad truck and they are heavy as shit! i would just go with sonethin smaller! ! u will definately see a power loss.
ShErMaN
camppain
09-22-2002, 01:03 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Driftin_240sx @ Sep. 22 2002,1:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hey i have 18x7.5" tenzo poke 10s all the way around with a little spacer in the front( a must without full coilovers).. and let me tell ya.. i got eibach sportlines and im still lookin like a offroad truck and they are heavy as shit! i would just go with sonethin smaller! ! u will definately see a power loss.
ShErMaN</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
bring back dead topics alot? can i call you jesus? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'>
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