P.A.S.S ----- Streets of Willow

[SYM]

this is a grip only event. we're from TCRA (www.touringcarclub.com) same organization that hosting the Aerodyn Gymkhana.

Date:
January 13, 14

Location:
Streets of Willow

open track ONLY

Rules:
**Gloves Required (Nomex recommended)
*No license requirements
*No shorts (pants only)
*SA2000 or SA2005 rated helmets are REQUIRED*.

Price: $100 1 day (sat or sun) **HAS TO SIGN UP AT P.A.S.S for $100 (sign up through TCRA will be $125)
Driving School: $260 2 days (sign up before Jan 10. 6PM $10 discount)

email me for application form at [email protected]
www.passracing.com

[Fat Felix]

I think I will be attending in my ae86 if I can sell my s13..

[Flybert]

Requirement for gloves but no suit? AHAHAHAHA That's hilarious.

[gotta240]

please explain in detail to all of us what you get/do for 260 for the school? Interested...thanks.


Also, what is this track like? Any pictures or videos? Are there walls everywhere or is it somewhat car/beginner friendly?

[SYM]

gotta240 - driving school http://www.touringcarclub.com/details/details_school.shtml

http://www.speedventures.com/graphics/SOWS_Full_color_BP.jpg

[TheSquidd]

If you sign up in a beginner class, the track is quite beginner friendly, going off track isn't TOO bad in most areas, I had a car about 1" off the ground and went off at about 20mph on the back bank and merely scraped the tranny, no serious damage.

Great track, no insane speeds and very very good variety of corners, dual apexs and banks. Only time you're going fast enough to hurt yourself is on the front straight to the hard right, if you know it's coming and brake early you're fine.

I wish my car didn't handle like balls, 100$ is INSANE cheap for a track day at SOW.

[articdragon192]

Ooo, doing the bypass. Nice. That hairpin sucks balls now.

[gotta240]

thanks! Are there walls everywhere, or mostly gravel pits, etc?

thanks for the reply! I'll be there at least 1 day!

oh- so no drifting is allowed on EITHER of the days??? Do you get kicked out if you do drift? Also, it says goodyear tire service available.....do they mount/dismount??? if so, how much?

thanks and sorry for all the questions!

[TheSquidd]

No walls to worry about, except on front straight, and you'd have to like, go into a coma to hit them.

All dirt around the course, on the turns entering the front straight, out of bounds is all asphalt.

Drifting is not allowed on track at events like these, you'll get black flagged the first time if it looks intentional, and after 2 or 3 times you're out for good.

Correct me if I'm wrong but thats the way it's been at SOWS whenever I go.

[Fat Felix]

Only time you're going fast enough to hurt yourself is on the front straight to the hard right, if you know it's coming and brake early you're fine.



How about the back straight? That was was pretty fast if I recall correctly.. But I've only driven there once.

But I must agree that it is very beginner friendly.

[TheSquidd]

Oh lol almost forgot about that, yes, after the big bank there's a back straight, to a chicane, it's moderately fast, be really careful in the chicane because right after it drops altitude and turns left I believe. Don't go into it real hot thinking youre gonna smoke everyone by going straight through the chicane, because with the altitude drop and hard turn, most people end up slamming the brakes and understeering off into the dirt.

Not that you'll be hurt or anything, but you'll be red in the face embarassed.

Again, if you sign up for a beginner class, or they have warm up laps in the morning, you'll see all of this and know what to look out for. Just remember, only go as fast as YOU feel comfortable. Try and find someone in the run group that has a similar car / power and has been there before, and line up behind them. You'll learn a LOT by watching their line.

First time at SOWS I got lumped in Advancedd (WTF) in a stock KA with coilovers and st115 tires. Other guys in the class had Porsches, Corvettes, Evos. Well, I was just sweating bullets and nervous because I was holding up these guys the whole time, eventually I was watching my mirrors so much to let them by, I went too fast into the big bank and understeered off course (where I hit my tranny). Lesson learned, now I never look in my mirrors. :2f2f:

[gotta240]

Thanks for the advice squidd!! You going to be out there?

Also, can you compare this coarse to the Horsethief Mile as far as fun/safety etc?

[TheSquidd]

Haven't driven HTM. Unfortunately no, I can't really grip/race my car anymore, it's slammed now and the suspension geometry is basically CRAP. Pretty much drift only until I can get a good alignment with some good multi-link. I'd love to go, 100$ is a so cheap!

[ramblux]

I have to ask: If no suit is required, why be so picky about having to wear pants? I would think that if you're going to get hurt while driving on the track, it's not going to make any difference whether you're wearing a pair of Dockers or a pair of shorts.

Gloves and a suit I understand. Gloves and slacks I do not.

[SYM]

TCRA do recommend you to wear long sleeves and long pants just incase anything happened at track your car caught on fire etc, if you have fire suit go wear it for ppl that can't afford it long pants and t-shirts is ok, as why gloves: is to prevent sweaty palms for beginners. any driving gloves only cost you $20 nomex for $50.

event is not full, you guys gonna have ALOT OF seat time i guarantee!!!

[frankist]

good price for a full day. :) can you email me the application form. i will be bringing two extra friends if theyres room, and if you could include more information on the schedule. thanks.

[frankist]

oh its [email protected] it would be fun if more 240 drivers come out to drive. sign up guys, dont miss a good opportunity to drive for a low price.

[SYM]

2 more days before the event.

[gotta240]

maybe i'm retarded but i can't find the application for the event on the pass site...

If i can get in for 100 bucks i'll glady pay now... What exactly do i need to do?

[SYM]

email me for the application as i stated above.

[gotta240]

haha. sorry, one more q!!!

So is this an actual race, or just an open track that you get on/off of when you want? Are you running w/ other cars and what is the chance i'll get a little instuction if i come sunday?

thanks again for your time!

[SYM]

TCRA will have RACE group, intermediate group, and beginner group for both days, for this $100 deal is only for open track, they'll put you in beginner or intermediate for 30 mins a section, you can come back to the pit any time, if you want instruction you can always ask their instrutors when they have time to guide you the line, or show you the breakin point etc.

[gotta240]

money and form sent... see you tomorrow

[gotta240]

Ahh. What Time Do I Show Up?!?!?

[SYM]

Hey Gotta240

if you want to join the event you have to sign up at the track for $120 cash only, our deal is over yesterday sorry i can refund you the money right now. let me know

[gotta240]

yes, please refund it asap. I'll be out there with cash as long as its refunded.

[SYM]

refunded, yea because we dont make any money off this kinda deals, so sorry about that have fun at the track :) since your car is not teched make sure you be at the track around 7:30, mandatory drivers meeting at 8:30 have fun

[frankist]

thanks for the great event simon, sucks that you couldnt make it out =[ next time? :D

[gotta240]

thanks... had a blast and plan on returning!!!

[frankist]

which car were you driving gotta240.

[gotta240]

beginner class...the s14 pulling the jankified trailer


you?

[gotta240]

double post....................

[SYM]

sorry that i didnt show up, it was too freaking cold, and i can't find a place to stay by rowland heights, because i live by river side. next time when my car is READY!!!

[frankist]

in the black s13. and my buddy in a green 318 :P hope to see you guys at the next event.

[Fat Felix]

sorry that i didnt show up, it was too freaking cold, and i can't find a place to stay by rowland heights, because i live by river side. next time when my car is READY!!!

weeeeeeeeakkkkkkk

[gotta240]

when is the next SOW grip event? HUH!?!?!?!

[SYM]

http://www.touringcarclub.com/events/events_schedule.shtml

[gotta240]

are all those events listed held the same way as the last SOW event? Can beginners go and get track time, or are those just Races only?

Also, hows the willow springs intl. raceway compared to SOW?

[SYM]

just like the event you when to last week, will have 4 sections, school, beginner, intermediate, and Race group.

Willow Springs intl is a FAST TRACK, some ppl like the high speed driving some ppl scared of this big track especially at turn 8 and turn 9 you can go like 100mph with your 240, you can download an instructional video at youtube. and here is a video of our E30 at Willow spring Intl http://www.passracing.com/E30%20M3%20Willowspring.wmv to give you an idea on the course

i will post special price when time comes by to see how much i can hook you guys up.