Threw the wheels on 'Questions' 56K

[kuramaya]

Well as some of you know I picked up some wheels last week. That thread got locked for mutual shit talking which is behind all of us now. I am looking for some serious advice here since as I have mentioned before, I am not a wheel expert at all and I think these things may stick out too much.
Today I went to the hobby shop and rolled the fenders as the size of the wheels I was told is 17X9+10 and thought they wouldn't fit without it. I got home and it started raining but I continued on and installed them. I was a bit demotivated from the rain and wife wanting me in for dinner so at first I really thought they look like shit. I am not sure yet if I like the look at all. After instaling them and eating some good rice and chicken, I headed to the shell station where the gas attentant drifters I am pretty cool with let me take pictures there since it was now dark..

It looks like a 4x4 now since it has 215's stretched on the 9 Inch wheel and the sidewall is almost non existent, before I had 235's on an 8 inch wheel with a shitload of sidewall. I ordered some Federal 225/45's today.

Q. I can lower it tomorrow if I have time, do you think it will look better if I lower it? Could it be just the 4x4 look that is killing them. The damn wheels stick out pretty damn far also, the offset looks like less than a +10 to me. Besides lowering I will have to adjust that camber bolt as well in the rear. Do you think by doing that they won't stick out as much?

Lowering the rear which I already thought was low will mean I have to lower the front as well. I have camber plates so it looks like I will have to add some NEG camber to the front, maybe max it out. This means I have to finally relocate the harness thats runs over the driver side fender which I heard is a bitch to do.

Q. Does this look like shit? It may grow on me, I am just not used to the look. I wanted flush with some lip, instead I got hanging out wheels.

Here are some pics, all advice please let me know. I know I need a front set, I am working on that now. Advice I am looking for is should I keep these or keep looking and general opinions.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bjorkluv/IMG_3949.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bjorkluv/IMG_3955.jpg
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[yokotas13]

i htink you need about 3 inches lower and then see how far it sticks out

[kuramaya]

3 Inches is alot man! It was already low, I can't believe how high this shit looks. The Federals should be here in a few days. I wanna see if 225's look any better since the sidewall wont be so stretched...then I will break out the measuring tape and borrow erics jackstands...

[yokotas13]

i have 225-45-17s on my front and 35s on the rear.
i rub going around hard turns lol

[mrmephistopheles]

hangin' out at the shell station huh?

they def. look better now that they're on a car.
Front needs lower too.
throw other rears on front for fun.

what sidewall height are those tires?

yeah, def. mo lowa mo camba.
235/40 is a good size for 9" rear.

[ScottMan]

I feel your pain, man. I had the same issue when I put on my 18x9.5 +12. This was the "my stomach hurts" moment:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Scottman20/Picture009Medium.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Scottman20/Picture017Medium.jpg

But with a lot less 4x4 (and in-turn more camber) as well as stretching (which you already have) and roll/pull the wheels tucked in very nicely, even to the point of being a little sunken and needing to dial in less camber.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Scottman20/240SX033.jpg

BTW - Please excuse the nastiness of my car in these pics, I just want to let you know that I've been there. I was about to just sell these because they stuck out so much and after talking to mr_240sx about he himself having the same "overflush" problem I felt better and decided to stick with it. I couldn't be happier with the results. I say keep them and you can make it work.

[kuramaya]

Meph - yeah wheels look different now. As far as the sidewall, the current ones are 45's. I ended up ordering 225/45 so I think it will be a good in between. We will see!

scottman - holy shit you made me feel better with those pics...gonna send you some rep for those pics...So maybe I will be good then. Ill drop it tomorrow if I have the time, 4 day weekend coming so I can do it then if not. You got pics on how much you adjusted the camber bolt, any input would be good! Your shit looks good man!

[ScottMan]

Haha...the reaction you just had is the exact same one I had after talking to mr_240sx. "Hmm...maybe I can actually make this work."

I actually didn't make any changes at all other than lowering it with the coil-overs. That's all the "natural camber" that came from that. I still have to get RUCAs to take a little camber out since I'm pretty hovercraft mode right now. I think after you work with the coil-overs for an hour or so you'll probably be fine. You may want less camber after you get it low enough, but it'll *look* better than it does now.

'Preciate the compliment and the rep. It looks pretty nasty right now and I debated on even putting the pics up figuring someone would neg rep me for yet another primered 240. :ugh: Here's the other side just for S&G.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Scottman20/Picture012Medium.jpg

[koukimonster139]

ehhh i guess the wheels arent as bad as i thought and as far as my contributing to the locking of your previous thread...yeah sorry


so i think with more neg camber in the rear and lower it would look pretty darn good. if you keep the stretch i think the lip of the rear quarters would come down right above the lip of the wheel and tada...flushness.



edit: gratz 1000 posts

[Gilboyto]

Yeah, there definitely needs to be more tire on those wheels lol. I once saw a show car with like 10 inch wide wheels on it with what seemed like 190's. I think once you get a nice sized tire to fit on the rear, it will look nice.

I wish I had a lip, my lip is like 1", cause I have I think +45 offset on my Momo's
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2494000-2494999/2494255_1_full.jpg

[kuramaya]

Scottman - allright, I won't fuck with the bolt until I play with the height a little and see what happens... you car is coming along well, keep me up to date through PM's if you want

Cokie man - Thanks brother, threw you some reps. We're cool man...I was wonderin if you would think they looked allright.

Gilboyto - I thought so too, but my drift teacher 'dorisha sensei' eric like a bit of stretch...It's all fun and games man.. you shoulda seen me rollin the fenders today..took me 30 minutes to figure out how to use the roller...

[Gilboyto]

do you have one of those official fender rollers? My friend wanted to do the baseball bat thing, but I didnt want my car to get screwed up lol. How much did you pick that thing up for?

[kuramaya]

do you have one of those official fender rollers? My friend wanted to do the baseball bat thing, but I didnt want my car to get screwed up lol. How much did you pick that thing up for?

Borrowed from a friend...GET A HEAT GUN! the paint will still chip. Hope it only chips underneath where you cant see it. Sand it smooth, clean it, apply antirust shit, then use some GOOD touch up paint to seal it. I di 3 coats of thick as touch up. It is rough to the touch underneath, but you cant tell from the outside. I may use it again to pull...I pussied out and stopped after the lips were rolled flat...

[LB.Motoring]

lol, we rock the baseball bat all day everyday,


daryl, it looks hella weird becouse your not low, tuck that thizz like a small child on christmass night, your problems will be solved. A little neg camber will occur, and just fit those upright. Should be great looking!

-Robby

[kuramaya]

lol, we rock the baseball bat all day everyday,


daryl, it looks hella weird becouse your not low, tuck that thizz like a small child on christmass night, your problems will be solved. A little neg camber will occur, and just fit those upright. Should be great looking!

-Robby

shit man, you guys are making me wanna go out and work on this shit now..I gotta get up in 4 hours for work:tweak: I gotta log off man..
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D

[mr_240sx]

the wheels look a bit weird right now cause your ride height is soo high..... if you drop it a good 2-3 inches it should look alot better and then just fine tune your alignement specs ( camber and toe)

[S13 Charlie]

Sell the wheels to me, I am falling in love with them!! The way the lip is kinda angular instead of round/smooth really sets them off, wow. I think your car could be much lower, once you get low, the wheels will just look better and better. You shouldn't need ridiculous amounts of camber either, it can be done with -2 degrees. Also, some tire brands appear wider than others, even when stretched. e.g. I have falken ziex 512's on front and some chinese tires in back, and the falkens look more stretched, the chinese tires look fuller and more natural. How long do rear tires last anyway?! heh.

oh and Scottman, I wouldn't worry about posting pics of the ride. The people that would make fun of you for having a primered work-in-progress are the punk kids with dreams bigger than their wallets, driving stock cars and talking shit. My car ain't pretty either, and if I ever find the time, I'll snap some pics of it as it sits today, leaky exhaust and all *cough cough* heh.

[FaLKoN240]

Looks like poo because your car isn't low enough. Tuck the 45 series, do a small pull OR dial in camber.

That looks like maybe it's a 17x9 +5 or so. Doesn't look too aggressive. I like it, if you were here in Cali I would've come to take them from you since you don't seem to like them that much. ;)

[Slidin240Wayz]

Drop the car! I know its already low, but you gotta go lower for these puppies. I would just play with the camber, not going to crazy with the toe because that will kill the tires ALOT faster.

If you don't want soo much neg camber, you will have to give it a slight pull.
USE A TORCH!

Carlos

[drift freaq]

I like the wheel now slam that baby hehehehe. You live in Japan, you got no excuse, i.e. smooth ass roads. Unlike the wack shit we have to deal with in socal!

[AuburnRyan]

Daryl,

Looks good - although my first impression is like yours - #$%@, out more than I thought they'd be. I think they look like Work Rezax's. Like everyone else suggested, lower it and it'll help alot. Again mine were 17*9 +35 (1" inset from yours) and flush with a 2 finger gap. Lowered a little more (.5 inch) and now I could use a 15mm spacer, or sum RUCA's to dial out some of the neg camber.. P.S. I like my 235/40's and wouldn't go any skinnier, but the roads here in DC aren't the best...My guess for you is if you get anything above that 225 width, then your'e in slight "pulling territory"- but lower it first to see since that's reversible.

You'll have everything lined up in no time and looking great - don't forget to show us pics :)

ScottMan - Great pics - really help visualize what is hard to believe.

[kuramaya]

Thanks for all the confirmation that I can make this shit work. Hopefully this thread helps out someone that has the questions like I did. If it werent for scottmans pics I woulda still been in denial. I will be sure to post up pics once I get the fitment right.
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Daryl

[mr_240sx]

and those pics wouldnt be there if it wouldnt be for my great advise to him! teehee

[punxva]

hey bjork i think they look good, but as stated they just need a little bit of camber and it needs to be lowered, and it should look fine bro

[kuramaya]

and those pics wouldnt be there if it wouldnt be for my great advise to him! teehee

props to you my brotha!

cool punxva

[S13-Silvia]

They would look alot better with polished or black centers.

[SoSideways]

Daryl those look good. Now you just have to find a matching pair for the front! :)

I currently have a set of 17x9 +20 5zigen FNs, but I plan to put 10mm spacers all around so it would be about the same fitment as your's.

My plans are 215/40/17 up front and 235/40/17 rear. Should be good :)

[ejkisela]

D,

Brother!!! they will fit no problem, with just a roll (tsumeori). (I will TRY to refrain from utilizing Japanese terms, but I am telling you it is going to be tough.)

I have 9J +11, and you see them biatches everyday...yours are 9+10, a difference of 1mm out. I have about 3mm of clearance between the tire and fender. you will be ok once you drop it a little like I said last night. Your toe will be in. We will have to make the rear toe 0. i will show you how to do that as well. it involves a measuring tape, a block of wood or white paint marker and a lift.....easy, but a little time consuming. Rear camber we will max out with the stock arms (about 2 degrees) and it's good to go. you know how mine looks.

I am glad people like the look.....Okinawa drift cars on the regular tend to be on the rough side...actually, although D1 cars are photogenic, they are rough as hell. They are a few real nice ones here, but there are two types of drift cars, once that have been in a wreck, and those that are about to. It's the name of the game.

Dynasty Familia

[kuramaya]

S13-Silvia - I thought about black and bronze, but that is far down the road. I have too much other shit I gotta do just for drive and trackability

SoSideways - yeah man looking for some similar wheels. "E" in the post below you is on the lookout for wheels all the time. So with the "40" on the rear I guess teh "235" will balance out the stretch huh?

E - I know you got my back. I am gonna hit the Kadena skills center Sat morning at 0800, they open earlier than foster so that's why I like it there for saturdays. Gonna go a full inch on F/R then check it out and go from there.
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Daryl

[yokotas13]

I like the wheel now slam that baby hehehehe. You live in Japan, you got no excuse, i.e. smooth ass roads. Unlike the wack shit we have to deal with in socal!
i call bullshit, i almost ripped my front bumper off going down the road to upgarage one day

[yokotas13]

S13-Silvia - I thought about black and bronze, but that is far down the road. I have too much other shit I gotta do just for drive and trackability

SoSideways - yeah man looking for some similar wheels. "E" in the post below you is on the lookout for wheels all the time. So with the "40" on the rear I guess teh "235" will balance out the stretch huh?

E - I know you got my back. I am gonna hit the Kadena skills center Sat morning at 0800, they open earlier than foster so that's why I like it there for saturdays. Gonna go a full inch on F/R then check it out and go from there.
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Daryl
only an inch...?!?!?
heh jk, drop it like its HOottttt

[mrmephistopheles]

You've clearly never been to socal.
The roads here are awesome.

[HyperTek]

Happy Holidays!
powwww!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/streetphase/caryah.jpg

maybe step up the tire size, becuase they leave alot of empty space no matter what for being 17s..
take a car with a smaller wheel well, those would be super huge on a miata.

its all in the stance
not quite the same but simular
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[ejkisela]

That car looks almost like mine.

Japan does not have that smooth of roads, and Okinawa is even worse. Not as bad as Thailanld though. You need a HiLux in Thailand. Roads are horrible.

[kuramaya]

Damn Hypertek, that chop looks nice as hell! Eric, find me some more wheels brother!

I am gonna follow Eric's advice and slow my roll and not lowerteh car until after saturday. Saturday I am going to work this the right way and relocate the harness first so I dont have to worry about going lower in the front and shredding the shit.

which reminds me, is there a writeup for the harness relocation on zilvia? If not, there will be. I am due for another writeup so the time is here. As long as there are no hickups with the relocation of the harness and yanking fenderliners, I should be able to have the car slammed, camber correct, and looking right by next week.


oh yeah, that car does look just like yours Eric...nice ride!
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Daryl

[HalveBlue]

For harness relocation:

http://sillbeer.com/fenderharness.php

[UfoZ8myCow]

It doesnt look horrible... But it would look nicer with a little more tire on them and a little lower.

[slideways2004]

Damn Hypertek, that chop looks nice as hell! Eric, find me some more wheels brother!

I am gonna follow Eric's advice and slow my roll and not lowerteh car until after saturday. Saturday I am going to work this the right way and relocate the harness first so I dont have to worry about going lower in the front and shredding the shit.

which reminds me, is there a writeup for the harness relocation on zilvia? If not, there will be. I am due for another writeup so the time is here. As long as there are no hickups with the relocation of the harness and yanking fenderliners, I should be able to have the car slammed, camber correct, and looking right by next week.


oh yeah, that car does look just like yours Eric...nice ride!
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Daryl

you haven't yanked the fender liners yet? that's like one of the first thing to go

[kuramaya]

you haven't yanked the fender liners yet? that's like one of the first thing to go


I guess I lose on that one...nah not yet bro....been too focused on getting my car up to the power I want...took a long ass time too..and loot:coolugh:

[ejkisela]

D,


1. Take the wheel off
2. go under the dash and locate the fuse block in the driver side kick panel.
3. Unscrew the fuse block
4. Separate fuse block from fuse box by pulling, but not pulling on the wires
5. fish through bulkhead
6. go into wheel well and cut all tie wraps
7. pull harness through hole adj to driver's headlight
8. pull the wire adj battery over the wheel well in eng compartment and fish through the trangular hole after tin snipping just the corner.
9. Fish harness through the bulkhead and reconnect at fuse block, start car.

[kuramaya]

D,


1. Take the wheel off
2. go under the dash and locate the fuse block in the driver side kick panel.
3. Unscrew the fuse block
4. Separate fuse block from fuse box by pulling, but not pulling on the wires
5. fish through bulkhead
6. go into wheel well and cut all tie wraps
7. pull harness through hole adj to driver's headlight
8. pull the wire adj battery over the wheel well in eng compartment and fish through the trangular hole after tin snipping just the corner.
9. Fish harness through the bulkhead and reconnect at fuse block, start car.

Oh yeah I got you. Also gonna ask you to navigate and take pictures. Im gonna do a writeup, these guys like pictures and writeups...I always get PM's and shit saying my writeup helped them out...share the luv
LSD

[punxva]

yes they do Daryl lol, cause half of zilvia is retarted :)

[miucus]

i aslo had the 4x4 thing goin on when i put on my 17x9 +15 with 225/45.
http://i12.tinypic.com/2r26j5c.jpg

but after lowering my car and rolling my fenders it fit nicely.
http://i11.tinypic.com/2hqxwfb.jpg
http://i18.tinypic.com/2isv5mw.jpg

hope this helps

[kuramaya]

^ that looks dope brother!

[McRussellPants]

lower it 3-4in in and be done with it.

also, keep the 215/45 or get 235/40. 225/45 is gross as fuck.

[shane_lxi]

lol, definately relocate the harness whatever you do! The last thing you need is to be driving down the street and have your blinkers randomly turn on on their own like mine did after the first week of rolling without inner fenders :P.

edit: lol, who gave me neg rep for this post... saying its impossible for the blinkers to malfunction from not relocating the harness? Where do you think the wires for your blinkers run noob? Wear through hte right wires and anything could short... lol.

[chmercer]

echoing to say it looks whack cause the car is way high

also yeah 225/45 17 is a pretty bad tire size, thats the problem with 17s is no 225/40s. better to go 215/45 or 235/40.

[yokotas13]

Oh yeah I got you. Also gonna ask you to navigate and take pictures. Im gonna do a writeup, these guys like pictures and writeups...I always get PM's and shit saying my writeup helped them out...share the luv
LSD
dont forget the wires going up the steering colum to the ignition and stuff

[SoSideways]

also yeah 225/45 17 is a pretty bad tire size, thats the problem with 17s is no 225/40s. better to go 215/45 or 235/40.

Amen dude... :bigok:

225/45/17 is OK for the rear of the car cause you can always tuck the tires, but up front, only way to roll is either 215/40 or 215/45, or 235/40. 225/45 up front is bout as nasty as a $0.05 hoe in Compton.

Falken FK452 actually comes in 225/35/17, but that's even smaller than a 215/40 lol

[Cash]

Yeah, there definitely needs to be more tire on those wheels lol. I once saw a show car with like 10 inch wide wheels on it with what seemed like 190's. I think once you get a nice sized tire to fit on the rear, it will look nice.

I wish I had a lip, my lip is like 1", cause I have I think +45 offset on my Momo's
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2494000-2494999/2494255_1_full.jpg


Gilboyto, your garage is cool looking. It looks like an adobe, which is awesome becuase you live in New Mexico.

Anyway, yea i helped scott with his wheels and they looked scary before lowering the car. The drop and the neg camber made a huge difference. His car is well on its way to looking like that red kouki in option. i can't think of his name right now.

[Gilboyto]

Lol, thanks. Glad someone likes the place. I need a new garage though, my brothers crap is piling up in there, and his motorcycle BARELY fits. Sad thing is, its all paint crap from him doing paint jobs and such.

Oh, and I have 225/45/17 up front guys! It doesnt look THAT bad lol. Its better than having a rubberband around your front tire that has no protection when you turn. The only problem is that I rub on my fenders if I turn hard enough...

[SoSideways]

Anyway, yea i helped scott with his wheels and they looked scary before lowering the car. The drop and the neg camber made a huge difference. His car is well on its way to looking like that red kouki in option. i can't think of his name right now.

His name is Break. Or was it Stink?

Anywho, 18x9.5 +12 TE37 with 225/40/18 tires. Hotness. Absolutely hotness.

[midnight zenki]

Bjorkluv, I am one of those retarted Zilvian's that would love to have another quality how to thread from you, especially since I am in a similar boat. Only problem for me is that I am currently buried under 3' of snow from that damn blizzard:sadwavey: .

[ejkisela]

Sorry about being gay about tire choice, it was my idea. Sorry D, I guess I am making your car gay....hahahaha.

I rock 225/45 because 225 for me offer more traction (than 215) and 235 side wall is too large (because of less stretch) and sideall is too straight. Hey, I like my stuff stretched, but not super stretched.

[SoSideways]

225/45 has bigger sidewall than 235/40.

[koukimonster139]

also a 235 would give more traction, not vice versa

well depending on the stretch

[freeman]

slam it and drive slow, so every body can see ya :)

looks good even if is 4x4

[kuramaya]

Here is how it is. As for now I am getting 225/45. This is for the rears only, I am still looking for some mesh to rock up front... The look does not matter one bit for the tires...as long as it is functional for Touge driving. These wheels are going to be my daily driving wheels and my daily driving includes a bit of Touge, occasional sliding, and getting around the Okinawa streets. If they are not so functional and not tuckable with a moderate drop, then I will throw the tires on my Emotions and burn the fuckers up. The emotions are now my track wheels for the time being unless I change my mind and sell them on b15sentra.net or the SR20Forum as they are a choice offset for sentras 17x8 +32. I am a driver first and foremost, the feel from within the car combined with control far exceeds the requirement for people to think my shit looks dope, I don't need nut swingers, I need to keep from crashing my car when I am pushing it to its limits.
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Daryl

[SoSideways]

225/45 will enable you to get your car low enough that you'll scrap everything.

[koukimonster139]

push it to the limit!

[ScottMan]

His name is Break. Or was it Stink?

Anywho, 18x9.5 +12 TE37 with 225/40/18 tires. Hotness. Absolutely hotness.
Break. That's it. There's apparently also a guy with a similar car to Break's but it was blue. I think his name was Ikai or Ipa or something like that?

[SoSideways]

Break. That's it. There's apparently also a guy with a similar car to Break's but it was blue. I think his name was Ikai or Ipa or something like that?

If you're talking about the guy that Taniguchi interviews right after Break on the Silvia/180sx Super Tuning vid, that guy was named Stink, and his car was like a dark brown/rootbeer color. Had a GP Sport kit on there w/ some polished as hell rims.

God where is my copy of that damned VHS?!?!

[ScottMan]

If you're talking about the guy that Taniguchi interviews right after Break on the Silvia/180sx Super Tuning vid, that guy was named Stink, and his car was like a dark brown/rootbeer color. Had a GP Sport kit on there w/ some polished as hell rims.

God where is my copy of that damned VHS?!?!
No no...not him. I know who you're talking about though. Lindsay or Aaron (or both) were talking about another guy with a Kouki (or Kouki styled) 180SX with TE37s I thought. I think it looked like Break's car but blue. In fact, it may have been "Break's" car and I just don't know enough about the whole scene around that car. They talked about it on Ziptied a while back. I think he totalled that car soon after it was finished or something.

I'll PM Aaron and see if he can make heads or tails of this.

[Dousan_PG]

man u guys are all messed up hahahahaha

i think that silvia tuning had the "BREAK" car. red 180sx with OE kouki aero and bronze TE37s

the "STINK" car was driven a lot by Kawabata (now drives greddy D1) which was partner with ZEIK POWER. Had Te37s and LmGt4s
it was a gold ish color with GP Sports Type R aero

the Blue 180sx with HOT ROAD aero was driven built and owned by Teruaki Itai. See Option #88. Bronze T37s 400some HP S14 SR20det and an awesome car through and trough.


hope that helps ladies! :)


i dont know why you gusy want 225/45 that is the worst size ever. get 235/40/17. lower profile wider tire and mo grip. up front, 215/45/17 is far better then a 225/45/17 as far as height goes.
i wish we had 225/40/17 that would be nearly perfect.

[SoSideways]

man u guys are all messed up hahahahaha

i think that silvia tuning had the "BREAK" car. red 180sx with OE kouki aero and bronze TE37s

the "STINK" car was driven a lot by Kawabata (now drives greddy D1) which was partner with ZEIK POWER. Had Te37s and LmGt4s
it was a gold ish color with GP Sports Type R aero

the Blue 180sx with HOT ROAD aero was driven built and owned by Teruaki Itai. See Option #88. Bronze T37s 400some HP S14 SR20det and an awesome car through and trough.


hope that helps ladies! :)


i dont know why you gusy want 225/45 that is the worst size ever. get 235/40/17. lower profile wider tire and mo grip. up front, 215/45/17 is far better then a 225/45/17 as far as height goes.
i wish we had 225/40/17 that would be nearly perfect.

Man, I PM'ed you awhile back trying to find out where I can get a hold of Option #88 but I got dropped like a hot frying pan after a couple of PMs :(

I still need to see that vid since you guys claim it to be the best Option vid evah :bigok:

[Dousan_PG]

hahaha i am baad at emails pms
just search online and ebay
it can be bought new
go buy a region free dvd player and get the original one from japan or something.

[kuramaya]

Well I have decided to sell these wheels and continue to search for other ones....:down:

[mr_240sx]

booooooooo

i was hoping to see pics of the wheels on your slammed car :(

[ScottMan]

I'm guessing "low enough" was "too low" for him. :/

[kuramaya]

Nope still gonna lower the car the same. Problem is the damn studs and wheels. I can only get 3.25 turns on the lugs. I bought (8) new 10mm Extended bolts today, but don't know if I feel like going through all that work for damn 4 lugs. I may as well go 5 lug conversion. Then I have another dilema, my Emotions are 4 lugs. I am not gonna get rid of those at this point. SO I really want a +20 wheel

[kuramaya]

Well me and Ejkisela planned on goin to the Hobby shop Tuesday anyway. I was gonna lower my car and reloc the harness, he is rolling and pulling his fenders. I was thinking of getting rid of these wheels since the lugs only get 3.25 turns before I max them out. Then I just spent a minute looking them over and decided I would be crzy to get rid of them. They are too badd ass and a lucky find. SO I picked up 8 new wheels studs with extra 10mm length. I know will throw these in on Tuesday.
I'm keeping the wheels...fuck it
Late
Daryl

[mr_240sx]

thats what we like to hear DAryl!!


pics pics pics!!!!

[Ninjabread]

Can't wait to see it slammed man, and wheel studs are easy as shit to install.

[CKAMC]

nismo 50mils? if so throw me a part number and I will proubly remember whether the ones u have are or are not for 4lugging

[chmercer]

lol @ "all the work" to change wheel studs.

hit studs with hammer, put new stud in back, thread lugnut on, tighten lugnut.

haha

you only get 3 turns with stock studs and no spacer? thats weird. or are you spacing them?

also i dunno if you can get these in japan but you can use arp studs on s chassis, the nismo studs are kinda ehhh.

[kuramaya]

lol @ "all the work" to change wheel studs.

hit studs with hammer, put new stud in back, thread lugnut on, tighten lugnut.

haha

you only get 3 turns with stock studs and no spacer? thats weird. or are you spacing them?

also i dunno if you can get these in japan but you can use arp studs on s chassis, the nismo studs are kinda ehhh.


Getting the studs out are easy yeah, I mean all the work to get to the studs, not hard work so much, busy work. You know I can turn wrenches...

No Spacer, its the damn wheels. They either need to be used with extended studs, or I figured they could be machined out. The lip the lugnut sits on is higher (closer to the outsides) than I am used to. I was thinking it was offsett related since the wheel was so fr out. I tested at the shop with a lug and 10mm gets me 4.25 more turns so I will be at 8 before I hit max torque so I will feel better. The Nismo one were 67 bucks for 20 IIRC when I saw them yesterday. I decided to get the 1600 Yen for 4 brand...

[Slidin240Wayz]

D, Doesn't 1600 yen for 4 brand X 4 = $64, just 3 less than nismo brand?

I am not a fan of the Nismo ones. Lemme know if you want me to send you the extended american brand studs.

Carlos

[sliddinsil8o]

Daryl...have you cked sanjo's yet, Im sure they have some and they weren’t as much if I can remember correctly. I think I picked a set of 8 for 20 bones...go and ask Daniel there and he should be able to hook it up, dont ask the old man, he will just confuse the hell out of you.

[mrmephistopheles]

D, Doesn't 1600 yen for 4 brand X 4 = $64, just 3 less than nismo brand?

6,400 JPY = 53.84 USD
Thanks, XE.com!

[Slidin240Wayz]

I guess the dollar is increasing in value.

Carlos

[ssublime1]

I think the ones he means are about 20 bucks for 4 lugs.

[chmercer]

if the nuts arent seating very far, is it possible you are using the wrong nuts? is it a cone seat? or a flat surface? if its flat you need to use shank style nuts.

[kuramaya]

All answers here

- The Lugs are 1600 Yen for a pack of 4, X2 Packs = 3200 Yens

- CHMercer, they are the right lug nuts, the kind that seat. The wheel requires extended lugs. I guess I could take a pic when I pull them to put the studs on....These are also the small lugnuts designed for wheels like these..the stock studs are just way down there with not enough room sticking out for the lug nuts to get enough turns...The area that the lug nut goes into is fine, the studs do not make it up.

[ejkisela]

The rims have two different "steps" for lug nut seating. He is using the correct ones, but can use different ones and achieve better results with the amount of turns. Two ways to skin a cat, and D decided to throw longer studs. I have 20mm on the back so I can use some gay 8j +40 and push them out with spacers (20mm worth) so it doesn't look so bad.

It's a lot safer now. I think we are going to "test fit" my old Volk VS mesh for the front since they are 4/5. The only bad part is that they are 9j +47, toyota offset. I used them with a 25mm bolt on and a 3mm slip on. 9+19...clears shakocho by about 2 mm, uhem I mean height adjustable suspension.

Looking forward to getting D back out on the track. We have a little something something planned for MLK weekend....Now, to get my car ready. That Datalogit needs to hurry up and come in.

[kuramaya]

The rims have two different "steps" for lug nut seating. He is using the correct ones, but can use different ones and achieve better results with the amount of turns. Two ways to skin a cat, and D decided to throw longer studs. I have 20mm on the back so I can use some gay 8j +40 and push them out with spacers (20mm worth) so it doesn't look so bad.

It's a lot safer now. I think we are going to "test fit" my old Volk VS mesh for the front since they are 4/5. The only bad part is that they are 9j +47, toyota offset. I used them with a 25mm bolt on and a 3mm slip on. 9+19...clears shakocho by about 2 mm, uhem I mean height adjustable suspension.

Looking forward to getting D back out on the track. We have a little something something planned for MLK weekend....Now, to get my car ready. That Datalogit needs to hurry up and come in.

Thanks E,

Here is an update (cut and paste from a PM to one of my new brothers on here asking for an update)

on Tuesday I threw new studs on the rear hubs, dropped the back 8 Turns on the coilovers which is about 5 CM's and Maxed out the rear Camber Bolts and pushed them all the way in. On the front I dropped it about 3 CM's and added 5mm's on the camber plates of negative camber on both sides. I am not gonna take pics till i mount the 225's. From the back it looks really sick. Serious negative camber going on. Eric is gonna let me test fit his old VS's for the front..they look sick with the spacers...E you got a pic?

[liv2drift045]

get them tires man... can't wait to see pics

[Felon_Monk]

I think they look purty good right now.. the camber is fuccin wicked, thats all i gotta say..

[kuramaya]

Well As I posted before I adjusted the suspension for wheels on Tuesday. I wanted to wait till I got the 225's on tonight to post some pics. Basically I know how harsh it can be here on zilvia when it comes to wheels and flushness and shit, so here we go. What do you all think of the outcome?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bjorkluv/IMG_3964.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bjorkluv/IMG_3965.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bjorkluv/IMG_3968.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bjorkluv/IMG_3969.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bjorkluv/IMG_3972.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bjorkluv/IMG_3973.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bjorkluv/IMG_3975.jpg
Late
Daryl

[ejkisela]

Looking good man. Work VS pics....I have them, but not on photobucket...too lazy to make an account.

[e1_griego]

Looks great!! Lower the front a tiny bit more and you're set!

Alex

[koukimonster139]

^^ +1

looks gooder than fuck tho

[kuramaya]

Thanks! Yeah I cant go any lower in the Front till I reloc the harness... never got to it on Tues since I had to lower and adjust camber so long and so many times...once the harness is out, I will bring it downa couple more CM's

[e1_griego]

The front of my car is lower than that and I've never had any rubbing on the harness. But it will def look great once you do.

Alex

[Slidin240Wayz]

D,
Rear looks good. Time to relocate the harness. It will look alot better with the front being lower. Don't you just love thinking about how Zilvia will think about your setup while making all the adjustments?

Carlos

[SoSideways]

hahaha, doesn't matter what Zilvia thinks... if your car is so low you can't go anywhere then that's a problem. But if you can overcome that problem then you're Zilvia's hero :)

Those rear wheels are 17x9 +20 right? Wonder why your's is so much more flush than mine.... I guess I need to take out some camber...

[mr_240sx]

wow looks better then beore thats for sure..... id still lower the whole car atleast another half inch if not a whole inch. but better relocate harness first.

[kuramaya]

e1_griego - well we also do some serious Touge runs that have occasional dips, I was rubbing before this last lowering and I am a bit worried. I still have the liner in so, at least I will know when to let off.

Slidin240Wayz - yeah carlos, it is a mission!

SoSideways - Plus 10 Brother.:2f2f:

mr_240sx - I'm gettin there...check the before and after shots...I think it came out good...I will get there eventually..

[SoSideways]

Oh dip.

9j +10 w/ 225/45... that's probably what I'll be doing. That kinda sucks... meaning I might have to run 215s just to clear the fender without running more than 2 degrees of camber....

[mr_240sx]

Oh dip.

9j +10 w/ 225/45... that's probably what I'll be doing. That kinda sucks... meaning I might have to run 215s just to clear the fender without running more than 2 degrees of camber....
why not run 205/45?

[SoSideways]

Because 205/45 is even smaller than the front tires I have right now.

205/45 = useless for anything other than driving on the streets and hardparking :(

[liv2drift045]

looks great man... any luck on finding fronts yet/??

[kuramaya]

Still lookin for fronts...not too worried..much more relaxed I got the back fixed for now..

[drift freaq]

looks good D, props for perseverance

[kuramaya]

looks good D, props for perseverance

thx brother... these federal tires are a nice ride an grippy if i want them to be.

[koukimonster139]

glad u didnt sell like u planned to for a min there lol.

[chmercer]

looks good, needs more low ;0

[kuramaya]

looks good, needs more low ;0


Yours was one of my anticipated responses...Yeah I will get a bit lower after I relocate the harness....we have a touge style drive on tuesday and I will feel it out then go from there..
late
Daryl

[kuramaya]

Action shot of the wheels
http://s78.photobucket.com/albums/j84/Cjmartz2k_2006/?action=view&current=SSL12345.flv

[InlineS13]

hey bjork, what are those rear aero parts on your bumper? is that japanese only stuff? heh