JUST DRIFT! Beginner event 11/25/06 [Archive] - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Dousan_PG

11-21-2006, 09:47 PM

LIMITED ENTRY REGISTRATION:
email: [email protected] for registration details - this is limited to 15 drivers. So please email us for details.

11/25/06 - Saturday 7am - 5pm
$105.00 per driver via paypal

DETAILS:
Beginners/Intermediate day

*Advance and Intermediate please register for HTM!

WOAH WOAH
so u'd rather cone dodge then learn from some of SoCals best drivers?
let's go folks.
Its on a real track, its a safer track then Horse Thief and its cheap!

Ill even help u out if u want. i think FLYBERT will be three also to help out.
SO let's go peoples!
u know your free.
grandma and mom are going to just make u a turkey sandwich for the event, so bring it on! bring the folks to the event with you!

Ricks15

11-21-2006, 09:59 PM

What a shame that my car isnt ready if it was id go 4 sure.

Dousan_PG

11-21-2006, 10:02 PM

make it ready!!

McRussellPants

11-21-2006, 10:10 PM

In

wait...

Fuck.

gotta240

11-21-2006, 10:11 PM

Honestly, are there walls or barracades that could prove to be dangerous to paint?

any pics of track or setup?

Dousan_PG

11-21-2006, 10:12 PM

no there is not
well there is one
its a total beginner course
let me get you some pics/vids
one second good sir!
i post again shortly!

Dousan_PG

11-21-2006, 10:14 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=klscx3bsPCc

found this vid on YOUTUBE
its not me driving, filming or being filmed!!!!!

ok as u can see
course is nice and wide
basically a big oval
u can really work on your entries and line
we set up clipping pints as well if u want to work on lining your car up correctly
instructors are on hand and they are all super duper cool.
course is very safe, i know many of the girls from drifting pretty got to learn there, i know i learned a lot there and worked on tandem drifts and stuff
course is safe and very easy to lear on. tires last well there too.
and usually passengers are ok, depending on the driver, i know for most groups passengers ok but first timers, instructors only
but u can really learn your car wlel and how to control your slide as well at this place
totally worth it
ill be swinginb y here too. probably help out with the stuff some

'90RPS13

11-21-2006, 10:15 PM

Damn. If you were east coast, I would be down. G'luck with the event! *a

gotta240

11-21-2006, 10:26 PM

that does look safe... Where exactly is this at again? (please be close to sd, please be close to sd, please be close to sd!)

also, does this mean there will only be 15 cars there, or just 15 newbs and a bunch of other intermediate/good drivers too?

Dousan_PG

11-21-2006, 10:29 PM

mostly newbs and some intermediate drives
the advance type of folk or doing HORSE THIEF MILE at the same track. that place u can really destroy your car.

but its not SO close to SD
sorry
its out by lancaster
take the 5 up (past LA) and head east on the 14

city is rosamond

maybe google/mapquset it from SD
some of the SD folks usually do the event too. i drive up from Orange County to go.

http://www.willowspringsraceway.com/home/home.asp

breakindrifts

11-21-2006, 10:43 PM

Offtopic, but do you happen to know if FLYBERT/Chris Mendoza's dad is still able to weld diffs? I've been trying to get a hold of him.

And anyone considering going. GO! Get your ass to balcony, tires do last forever there and it's a relaxed environment even if you are a total noob.

A Spec Products

11-21-2006, 10:53 PM

yeahhhhhhhh

balcony is bomb for beginners

and $105 bucks?

no question!

you cant fuck up paint unless u off track real bad

but then why did u build a car in the first place?

komedy

11-21-2006, 10:53 PM

can you send me a zip code or somthing, how far from downtown LA is it.?
will you do this event again later next year?
thanks

Edgar

11-21-2006, 11:00 PM

this is great that you guys are doing this

Dousan_PG

11-21-2006, 11:09 PM

theres events allyear
yeah chck out

JUSTDRIFT.com
for event infos

yeah chris' dad still does the welded. if i see him online ill let him know

Brian

11-21-2006, 11:26 PM

You only really mess up your car on Balcony if your name is Brian Harte...
and I am the only Brian Harte who drives there.... so....

mrmephistopheles

11-21-2006, 11:47 PM

Nice price and awesome location. I wish I could make it.
Maybe you guys could buy me a spot for an event in late May or something. :bigthumb:

vvtisupra

11-21-2006, 11:51 PM

I've been a Just Drifter for 2 years and I have a problem, I'm addicted to their countless amount of track times, friendly and professional environment and if need be the one on one tutorials in your own car !

Seriously Just Drift is the shit and if HTM wasn't open on that same day i probaly would do balcony. I think I've done balcony like 6 times now and it never gets tiring nor does it ever get boring. Its a beginners track as well as an intermediate... its how you look at it and how you enter. It has taught me a lot, and I would HIGHLY recommend anyone from California (North or South) to attend. Don't give me an excuse about how far it is blah blah balh. Head out the night before with some friends and make it a trip. Split a room at the Essex house (if you tell them you are going to willowsprings you get a room for like 70 bucks).

Definately is a weekends worth of fun.

P.S. I head out from Santa Barbara so I don't want to hear any complaining. Do enough events and get good enough and you will graduate to HTM one day, arguably the bestest drift track on the west coast!

On a side note there is advance/expert group at htm that same day so on breaks you can swing over to HTM and see some top class drivers. Remember top 4 of pro am are Just Drifters, just being around those cats makes you a better driver.

Zetto*

11-22-2006, 02:36 AM

Of course the one event I have the money for I cant make it to because of work.

vvtisupra

11-22-2006, 02:40 AM

Of course the one event I have the money for I cant make it to because of work.

justdrift.com There are events every month !

Dousan_PG

11-22-2006, 07:27 AM

yeah sometimes 2 a month too! like this month
haha

make the next one! u wont regret

Wykydtron

11-22-2006, 12:11 PM

Awh man, I wish this would have been last weekend! <=[ I'd love to attend this event too! I'll be down in SoCal probably next spring. I posted this up on my site to spread the word.

brainfood

11-22-2006, 01:50 PM

I learned there, and so have a lot of badass grassroots drifters. Def. a safe track and good learning experience.

94cc0rd

11-22-2006, 06:56 PM

i went to justdrift at the oval a couple months ago.. first track event
it was super fun but i sucked so bad.
i really want to try balcony but i have work on saturday :(

justdrift = super seat time

Wykydtron

11-22-2006, 07:30 PM

Nice price and awesome location. I wish I could make it.
Maybe you guys could buy me a spot for an event in late May or something. :bigthumb:

WA to SoCal ain't that bad of a drive. The number one rule you have to abid by is to plan out check points. It also helps to have some sort of sleeping remedy. I'd recommend flying!

Flybert

11-22-2006, 09:06 PM

Just to let you guys know, balcony is the track that all us advanced JD'ers learned on. I love that course because it teaches you everything you need to know about drifting. First it teaches you how to use all the proper ways of initiating drifts. For the main turn, a clutch kick is best and you can extend with the ebrake if you'd like. On the back turn, the best way to initiate is with the ebrake from as early as possible. This part of the course gives you bigger balls because the earlier and faster you initiate, the better. This would be recomended for intermediate and advanced people only. Balcony also teaches you to take proper lines because when you come off the large safe skidpad, the straightaway entry is narrow. If you learn how to carry maximum speed through there going full throttle, you will get good really fast. This straightaway can allow for a fun manji drift line or a nice straight to carry speed into the long ebrake slide into the back corner.

I'm not sure if charlie is going to set up the figure 8, but that's always another option on balcony that tests your ability to take a good line and stay sideways. Here is a video of me along with jason L. and davedge.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3316420290833171473&q=just+drift

In addition, if charlie allows it, you can drop into the keyhole coming off the backcorner. Dropping into the keyhole is a really good test on how to adjust line, especially for the low power KA guys. If you can manage to drop into the keyhole with your KA without straightening out, you know your skill level is getting pretty high. Combine this with a gangster longslide and I'd rank you as intermediate/advanced.

Go to the balcony, get awesome, and come out to HTM when you have the experience.

Zetto*

11-22-2006, 09:55 PM

justdrift.com There are events every month !
Trust me I checked the website before I posted here. There is no official next event (I see an event that should take place sometime in December but it dosen't appear to be a beginner event.).

LB.Motoring

11-22-2006, 11:00 PM

HyperTek

11-23-2006, 12:06 AM

if only i wasnt working and paid attention to this event sooner..

Ill have to make up and get in a few for 2007 i promise

Dousan_PG

11-23-2006, 11:06 AM

yeah come on out hypertek, you really should.
then we cant give you shit. oh wait! :( dammit. hahaha
yeah for sure do it!
your car seems pretty well setup anyways. should be e a s y!

CrimsonRockett

11-25-2006, 01:20 AM

I'd be there if my party wasn't tomorrow.

:(

azndummie

11-26-2006, 03:27 AM

is the event full?

Dousan_PG

11-26-2006, 09:30 AM

its over.
hah
welcome to yesterday
it kicked ass
lots of seat time
i did HTM and it was absolutely amazing.

overb0ost

11-26-2006, 10:21 AM

hey dousan any vids???

canada FTL since we got winters =P

Dousan_PG

11-26-2006, 11:27 AM

not yet waiting still

94cc0rd

11-26-2006, 11:33 AM

how long does it take you to get to willow springs from irvine??? it's soo farrrrrr.. last time coming from arcadia, it took me like 1 hour and 40 minutes... and i don't drive at granny speeds either..!!

Dousan_PG

11-26-2006, 11:43 AM

mm from there about 2.5 hours or so.
my friend from norcal drove. he lives in millbrea i think.

420sx

11-26-2006, 01:24 PM

damn dood Cali events are expensive hehehe 40 to 75 bux down here shit load of tracks too. but its all conezzzzz

Dousan_PG

11-26-2006, 01:44 PM

yeah fuck cone events! pussy shit!

Ricks15

11-26-2006, 01:54 PM

So when is there another one?

Dousan_PG

11-26-2006, 02:37 PM

not sure
ill find out and update zilvia a few weeeks b4 it takes place i think.

A Spec Products

11-26-2006, 02:50 PM

i believe there is a mid december balcony event

i will go

hell or high water

no panty excuses

420sx

11-26-2006, 05:33 PM

mmm sounds like i need to move to Cali after i graduate lol

hitman

11-26-2006, 07:44 PM

ya htm was sick as fuck. it was a party.

Dousan_PG

11-26-2006, 07:53 PM

your car make it home ok? jbweld hold up?
im glad u went back out there
KA is nearly bullet proof
its like a poor mans 1jz
with out th epower..
or the turbos
or the coolness

wait maybe thats a bad example hahaa

hitman

11-26-2006, 08:22 PM

lol, ya it held up fine, i was gonna be sad if i drove home after 1 session of drifting.
i didnt see you towards the end of the day, run out of tires/car break? sick job on linking that crazy section first time in your car. later

Dousan_PG

11-26-2006, 08:28 PM

nah i went home early. got back from norcal flight the day before worked on car till 2 am and got up at 5am
and stll had to drop off car move a few dead cars and drive back to OC after dinner
so i left tad early
and i was saving my other 4 new fedearls for the next event
tried to kill the ES100s but they wouldnt die. started t chunk almost dead, hopefully next event..
my alignment was getting worse anyways hahaha
shit was like 1 inch toe in on the rear hahahah oh well next time hopefully aligned
next HTM is mid-dec
BE THERE.

Munch

11-26-2006, 08:38 PM

Dammit! I really wish my car wasn't in such suck condition so i could actually go to some of these events. My cars getting a constant oil change cause its leaking out so damn much, so every couple of weeks i have new oil.

Really gotta get this thing fixed....

hitman

11-26-2006, 08:44 PM

i think thats the top drift all stars or whatever, and considering all i did was lose first round the only top drift i did i dont think i was an all star lol. and im poor right now and trying to turbo my car. but htm is fun as fuck so i dunno. tell charlie he needs to have more events there! shit was awesome

Dousan_PG

11-26-2006, 08:54 PM

man you gotta get on Ziptied.
btw, it doesnt say its a all stars
this one is just ano practice
either dec 16 or 17th

hitman

11-26-2006, 11:25 PM

shit, ima try to be there. i think the registration is closed over there, i can still see the events page though thats all that matters. you gonna go? know anyone with a ka oil pan lol?

Dousan_PG

11-26-2006, 11:27 PM

try and register as HITMAN
ill vouch. its cool
yeah im going to go fo sure
nah no oil pans over here. no kas at all
unless MAEDA has one??
u should PM him.

hitman

11-26-2006, 11:41 PM

theres not even a register button lol. ya ima send him a pm and check

vvtisupra

11-27-2006, 02:10 AM

FAIL ! hahah jp high five to the fellow KA green s14 drifter

p.s. 1.6 hours ain't shit. Its definately worth a 3 hour drive.

Agent_S13

11-27-2006, 11:49 AM

FAIL ! hahah jp high five to the fellow KA green s14 drifter

p.s. 1.6 hours ain't shit. Its definately worth a 3 hour drive.

6+ hrs each way from NorCal, definitely worth the drive. Too bad CHP pulled me over 10 min from home.... "NO Officer, I haven't been drinking... just driving back from Willow Springs." :jerkit:

I enjoyed the track time and the balcony is such a great course for beginners. Near the end of the day, I watched the HTM event and that looked like a great road course. Too bad I'm not even remotely ready for that. :cool:

I think I'll have to come back for more "winter" events. Changing tires in 100+ degree heat (earlier JD event I attended) was just crazy.

Looking forward to pics! Maybe someone actually took pics of me.

-Aaron
'91 240sx coupe

FaLKoN240

11-27-2006, 04:35 PM

mm from there about 2.5 hours or so.
my friend from norcal drove. he lives in millbrea i think.

Who you know from Millbrae? Thas my hood. LOL.

Shoulda hollared, woulda shown you up on the gokart track. :jerkit:

Dousan_PG

11-27-2006, 11:21 PM

nekoball! my friend john! super cool guy!

next event at horse thief is the 17th!
be there all advanced/expert drivers
beginners not welcome due to course danger and i hate when people spin in front of me regularly
once and a while is cool though. just dont fuck up a lot haha
j/k ..not really

yeah for Advanced/Expert drivers HTM!
dec 17th , sunday

BE THERE!
i will!

hitman

11-28-2006, 05:53 PM

FAIL ! hahah jp high five to the fellow KA green s14 drifter

p.s. 1.6 hours ain't shit. Its definately worth a 3 hour drive.

werd, i drive 3 hours from san diego to get there. its far. lol

yo, high five, any of the video when we were drifting together look sick or not really? post it up lol

MikeDeuce

11-29-2006, 12:03 PM

Here's a zip file of a bunch of short video clips that Agent_S13/Aaron was kind enough to take:

http://www.pixelstorm.net/videos/drift/vids.zip (~53mb)

There's not too many folks in there (but plenty of vids of me and john/nekoball tearing through at 12mph).

There's one or two of the blue 350, the m-150 350, the red s14 (allen/alan? sorry, bad with names and I don't know most of you), the two tone corolla hatch. And a couple others I can't remember.

Thanks Aaron!

And thanks JD guys, Norcal is sad lately.
-mike

Dousan_PG

11-29-2006, 12:09 PM

the next JD balcony event i belive is Dec 16th (saturday)
and HTM is December 17th (sunday)

sileighty83

11-29-2006, 12:32 PM

hey how often does just drift have beginner track time, like this up comming one. my friends trying to get me to go I want to but i got an open diff (GAY)

ARLISS

11-29-2006, 12:39 PM

do any of u guys know anything like that around florida... i definetly trying to learn how to drift and i can not find out where i can... plz help... thanks

Dousan_PG

11-29-2006, 10:29 PM

florida fail
hit up a FL board
good luck.
events out there are like....not terribly common. maybe once everymonth or so? if that.

just drift usually 2 events a month
if u got money total fo 4
two 'beginner'
two advanced.

CleanS14

11-29-2006, 11:11 PM

You may see me at a JD event in the near future!

!Zar!

11-30-2006, 12:10 AM

You may see me at a JD event in the near future!
What about us norcal heads? haha.

But I do plan on hitting up JD events myself also.

LB.Motoring

11-30-2006, 12:26 AM

NO love for NorCal!
hahah

its fine, I enjoyed my last JD event @ teh oval

soo many runz

94cc0rd

11-30-2006, 02:26 AM

my car threw a knock sensor and evap vent solenoid problem CEL... my mechanic said that it's fine to drive the car and turned the light off, but then it came back on...

will it be ok to attend an event with these 2 CEL codes?

if i can get work off, i'll be at the next event @ balcony.

it's a little closer now that my parents moved to Valencia... google maps says about 68 miles, about 1 hour and 15 minutes =) so i can just sleep at their place and go drift!!! muahah

allblackS14

11-30-2006, 04:55 AM

do any of u guys know anything like that around florida... i definetly trying to learn how to drift and i can not find out where i can... plz help... thanks

http://www.floridadrift.com
http://www.240sx.net [Jacksonville,FL forum]
http://www.tamparacing.com
http://www.stfuanddrive.com/forum/
http://www.sfl240sx.com/

Flybert

11-30-2006, 09:03 AM

Yeah, you should be OK to drift with those 2 codes if you're NA KA. Just put 91 octane in and you should be fine.

94cc0rd

12-01-2006, 06:17 PM

Yeah, you should be OK to drift with those 2 codes if you're NA KA. Just put 91 octane in and you should be fine.

91 for the event only or should i be running 91 daily? so expensive these days :mad:

Flybert

12-01-2006, 06:30 PM

Just for the event. You'll most likely be safe with 87 since it's a KA and the weather is cold but without the knock sensor not working, it won't trigger the ECU to retard your timing if you have detonation for whatever reason.

vvtisupra

12-01-2006, 07:24 PM

those CEL codes are just telling you to drive it harder. You'll be fine. Both of my cars are . KA 4 life

94cc0rd

12-02-2006, 03:43 AM

ahaha well in that case...

i just hope i can get that saturday off from work.

the sale on the rims i was supposed to get fell through so that money will go towards tires and jd.

are federal ss535 205/55/16 good tire for my z32 n/a wheels?

SiI40sx

12-02-2006, 03:49 AM

How often does justdrift update their site? Whats the best way to get a heads up on another beginners day for this coming dec / jan months? Thanks!!

Dousan_PG

12-02-2006, 11:08 AM

read the forums
thats the best place to get the info
message board.

Flybert

12-03-2006, 11:39 AM

Wei240

12-03-2006, 11:20 PM

man, i need to get the car up to running condition...

how many tires do newbs/beginners usually go thru (on avg) at the beginner events?

Flybert

12-03-2006, 11:39 PM

It's good to bring 2 new tires that you can burn. When I was stock KA, I don't remembering burning all the way through 2 new tires. Even nowadays I limit myself to 2 new tires because I can't afford to burn more. It's just that nowadays with the power I have, I actually can kill 2 tires no problem.

94cc0rd

12-04-2006, 12:56 AM

yea .. my first event, i was barely spinning my tires... only spinning my car hAHA... i did go thru a pair of tires that had about 50-60% left but then a couple people drove my car... charlie drove my car once and the other instructor guy drove it once... and this other guy drove it twice... so im sure they did all the burning of the tires... haha

oo yea, my vlsd sucks.. but with a welded or 2way lsd, will it make it easier for me to learn how to drift, or will it make it easier to drift period..?

Flybert

12-04-2006, 02:19 AM

What did the instructors say about your vlsd? Sometimes they work OK but sometimes they work like crap.

94cc0rd

12-04-2006, 02:40 AM

haha they said my vlsd sucks... they told me to get a welded diff...

i just checked the driver profiles on justdrift.com

the other instructor who drove my car was tommy suel

oh yea, who do i contact about getting a discount on federal tires from jd? or can logan get them cheaper than jd even after their sponsership discount?

Flybert

12-04-2006, 03:04 AM

Yeah, tommy knows his shit and he's a badass driver. The welded gives you better throttle control. You still have to be quick on the steering so you don't spin but it will make you a lot more consistant.

94cc0rd

12-07-2006, 11:44 PM

i am registered and paid for dec.16 @ the balcony! can't wait!!

i hope my car doesn't die cuz of those 2 cels :-/

hitman

12-08-2006, 12:12 AM

it shouldnt, i have atleast 2 cels i dont even know how many know. it seriuously doesnt matter if its the stupid ones. if you scared just retard timing a tad and run 91 done.

Dousan_PG

12-08-2006, 12:15 AM

yeah u can run higher octane at the track too, they sell 100 there
KA was the only motor i ever drove that i never worried about. thing is like a T1000
unstoppable.

84GTSR5

12-08-2006, 12:47 AM

Yeah, you should be OK to drift with those 2 codes if you're NA KA. Just put 91 octane in and you should be fine.

The Ka is meant to run on 91 octane all the time, is the minimum required octane. And if you ask where i got the info from its on the Factory bocklet.

hitman

12-08-2006, 12:54 AM

The Ka is meant to run on 91 octane all the time, is the minimum required octane. And if you ask where i got the info from its on the Factory bocklet.

if i was a mod id delete that post. it says that like in the freakin gas cap area. i dont think anyone runs 91 just while driving around, you certainly dont need it. even so im sure he is aware of that.

unstoppable, im trying to find the pic of the rod i shot out the side of my last ka. lol

94cc0rd

12-08-2006, 12:56 AM

sweet... in that case... time to make that KA work!! ;P

!Zar!

12-08-2006, 09:01 AM

91 isn't the minimum.

If you read what is says on the gas cap, "For optimum performance use premium fuel".

SwiftS14

12-08-2006, 09:38 AM

hydro lock my KA last year and it still runs hard with 9cels . i was planning to beat it up untill it blowns but the ticking time bomb motor never blew yet, if it does i got a KA-T on the way.

brainfood

12-08-2006, 10:41 AM

if i was a mod id delete that post. it says that like in the freakin gas cap area. i dont think anyone runs 91 just while driving around, you certainly dont need it. even so im sure he is aware of that.

unstoppable, im trying to find the pic of the rod i shot out the side of my last ka. lol

I always ran mine on 87, sometimes I would throw 89 or 91 in it but never noticed any difference. Mine ran strong for 2 years of beating on it and is still alive and running with over 200k miles on it.

94cc0rd

12-14-2006, 03:06 AM

hey guys... theres a 50% chance of rain on saturday and i'm scurred...

have any of you guys been to an event when it was raining? what should i bring in case it rains? jackets/umbrella.. i don't have one of those tent things so if it does rain i'll be standing under my umbrella :(

is it a lot harder to learn how to drift when its raining? ... i'm so worried and excited at the same time, i can't sleep..

Sil-Abc

12-14-2006, 05:17 AM

bring jackets and a really really study canopy. bring tarps to cover ur tools and lots of zip ties. umbrella is very wise. as for learning well its yes and no. pretty much it takes less effort to continue a slide and sometimes initiate since theres no friction downsides are no traction so its harder to control, more understeer so u might have a hard time initiating, and if u recover wrong and sloppy itll have adverse affects. its a good learning experience so just go a little bit slower. i dont kno what track it is since i just saw this post but if theres mud be careful :D (i still have a piece of buttonwillow in my car from a year back from all the rain and mud)

ALL IN ALL:
go slow, dont countersteer or turn in too crazy like u normally do cuz the rain will help u out there, mayb do some ebrake and clutch kicks maybe? its not essentially harder but different from what u would expect.

94cc0rd

12-14-2006, 09:50 AM

i dont have a canopy or tarps.. :-/

i think i'm gonna take a bunch of big garbage bags to put my stuff in if it does rain...

Flybert

12-14-2006, 10:59 AM

I used to go canyon drifting in the rain back in the day before there were a ton of drift events and it was fun as hell. I also did a JD event at the balcony where it rained in the morning. You can start your drifts so much earlier and you don't waste tires. It's a totally different experience. It's slow paced which is good for beginners and it gives you some experience with throttle control. No more NA KA full throttle action. It'll feel like you have a v8 under your hood so you gotta modulate the throttle.