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A Spec Products
10-26-2006, 12:45 PM
I normally wouldn't post something like this, but in all my time in this community no one has ever come at me like this. Read if you feel like reading, cliffsnotes is that pretty much this zilvian thinks im fake because i sell parts to modify a car but yet i tell people to not street race/mountain drive and i say that i dont condone it or do it myself.

i would prefer that the person who i made anonymous in this issue do not post in this thread. the purpose of this is not to point him out. i am more concerned with the argument made against what i do.

this makes me want to QUIT MY JOB and ruins my entire day, and probably week.

sorry guys, those of you who KNOW me and my philosophy should see eye to eye with me on this one. i try very hard at what i do and this just made my blood boil.

thanks
logan

11:17] zilvian: yo
[11:18] aspeclogan: whats up
[11:18] zilvian: ur not really like that in real life r u??
[11:18] aspeclogan: huh?
[11:19] zilvian: hold up let me link it
[11:19] zilvian: damn zilvia is takin a while
[11:19] zilvian: anyway, that thread with the guy asking about mountain driving
[11:19] zilvian: you responded to him to be all safe and obey the law
[11:20] aspeclogan: uh
[11:20] aspeclogan: yes i am
[11:20] aspeclogan: i dont condone that shit
[11:20] aspeclogan: i dont do it
[11:20] zilvian: but u sell the parts to do it?
[11:20] aspeclogan: i dont sell parts
[11:20] aspeclogan: to go mountain driving
[11:20] aspeclogan: i sell parts to modify your car
[11:20] zilvian: u condome engine swap and car modding?
[11:20] aspeclogan: and i always
[11:20] aspeclogan: always
[11:20] aspeclogan: recommend going to the track
[11:21] zilvian: so its like
[11:21] zilvian: your a person trying to protect the environment
[11:21] zilvian: and are agaisnt the killing of animals
[11:21] zilvian: and hunting
[11:21] zilvian: but yet u sell guns
[11:21] zilvian: and tell them to go to a shooting range
[11:21] zilvian: u kno how stupid that sounds?
[11:21] aspeclogan: right now youre coming at me a bit strong
[11:21] aspeclogan: wheres this beef coming from
[11:22] zilvian: from people acting fake online
[11:22] zilvian: theres been a lot of it
[11:22] aspeclogan: wtf
[11:22] zilvian: i hate that shit
[11:22] aspeclogan: yo man
[11:22] aspeclogan: i dont know where this is coming from
[11:22] aspeclogan: but i think you better rethink
[11:22] aspeclogan: your argument
[11:22] zilvian: not only that i dont like the fact people try to be all civilized and obey the law when they illegally modding their cars
[11:22] zilvian: no its nothing personal
[11:22] zilvian: agaisnt u
[11:22] zilvian: but like
[11:23] zilvian: u kno what i mean?
[11:23] aspeclogan: no i dont
[11:23] zilvian: people are modifying their cars illegally
[11:23] aspeclogan: i sell parts
[11:23] aspeclogan: to modify cars
[11:23] aspeclogan: theyre all off road use only
[11:23] zilvian: and try to act all good citizen
[11:23] aspeclogan: i dont street race
[11:23] aspeclogan: i am not fake
[11:23] aspeclogan: you have tracks
[11:23] zilvian: yea im not talkign about street racing
[11:23] aspeclogan: where you can go and use these parts
[11:23] zilvian: or initial d shit
[11:23] zilvian: but im talking about spirited driving
[11:24] zilvian: and how everyone looks down on it
[11:24] aspeclogan: yes
[11:24] zilvian: like its the devil
[11:24] zilvian: but YET
[11:24] aspeclogan: you can go spirited driving
[11:24] zilvian: theyre sinning
[11:24] aspeclogan: but i was responding
[11:24] aspeclogan: to the dude
[11:24] aspeclogan: who said that me and him go to azuza mt
[11:24] zilvian: yea
[11:24] aspeclogan: 1. ive never been there
[11:24] zilvian: to go drive?
[11:24] aspeclogan: 2. i am not his friend
[11:24] aspeclogan: 3. he is a customer of mine making a joke
[11:24] zilvian: 3. its a forum dont act so serious?
[11:25] aspeclogan: but my purpose was to make the point
[11:25] aspeclogan: that i dont go street racing
[11:25] zilvian: thats what im talking about
[11:25] aspeclogan: im a business so i need to represent myself properly
[11:25] zilvian: u automatically assumed
[11:25] zilvian: and made that defense
[11:25] zilvian: like a fuckin cop is right behind u nshit
[11:25] zilvian: thats bullshit we shouldnt be scared like that
[11:25] zilvian: we should be able to talk all the crap we want
[11:26] zilvian: it shouldnt even be considered anymore than ficton
[11:26] aspeclogan: uh ok
[11:26] zilvian: fiction*
[11:26] aspeclogan: are u having a bad day?
[11:26] zilvian: lol
[11:26] aspeclogan: calling ME fake
[11:26] zilvian: no im jus tired of people acting so fuckin "adult" on the forums
[11:26] aspeclogan: is pretty harsh dude
[11:26] aspeclogan: you dont know me
[11:26] aspeclogan: and i am an ADULT
[11:26] aspeclogan: i just dont condone irresponsibility
[11:26] aspeclogan: and if you dont like it
[11:26] aspeclogan: im sorry
[11:27] aspeclogan: i know a lot of people
[11:27] aspeclogan: who have died
[11:27] aspeclogan: due to irresponsibility
[11:27] aspeclogan: and i would rather
[11:27] aspeclogan: people go tot the track
[11:27] zilvian: died in a car accident?
[11:27] aspeclogan: to take out their car driving
[11:27] aspeclogan: versus going to the mountain
[11:27] aspeclogan: where it is not safe
[11:27] aspeclogan: and controlled
[11:27] aspeclogan: in short
[11:28] aspeclogan: im just trying to have people be responsible
[11:28] aspeclogan: you cant say
[11:28] aspeclogan: since i sell parts
[11:28] aspeclogan: to modify a car
[11:28] aspeclogan: i am wrong
[11:28] zilvian: so ur telling me u only sell car parts to people u can tell will ONLY go to the mountains? because u care so much? or maybe you dont and you just see the money being made and sell it to anyone?
[11:28] aspeclogan: for saying that
[11:28] zilvian: go to the track***
[11:28] zilvian: sorry got that confused
[11:28] aspeclogan: wow
[11:29] aspeclogan: of all VENDORS
[11:29] aspeclogan: you coming at ME
[11:29] aspeclogan: like this
[11:29] zilvian: u kno what an accessory is?
[11:29] zilvian: by law?
[11:29] zilvian: tell me how u think your different from one?
[11:29] aspeclogan: OMG
[11:29] aspeclogan: why you coming at me like this?
[11:30] aspeclogan: you got a vendetta or something?
[11:30] zilvian: because im trying to make a point
[11:30] aspeclogan: so what?
[11:30] aspeclogan: i should say
[11:30] aspeclogan: go street race
[11:30] zilvian: im not here to fight or talk shit
[11:30] aspeclogan: yeah you are
[11:30] aspeclogan: youre instigating
[11:30] zilvian: well ur far from seeing my point
[11:30] aspeclogan: and you are talking shit
[11:30] zilvian: if u take this the wrong way
[11:30] aspeclogan: no i see your point
[11:30] aspeclogan: but youre slippery sloping this shit
[11:30] zilvian: just like yo uare
[11:30] zilvian: you*
[11:30] aspeclogan: call me on the phone
[11:30] aspeclogan: if u want to discuss htis
[11:30] zilvian: about driving a modified vehicle
[11:31] aspeclogan: in an adult manner
[11:31] aspeclogan: 626 618 1100 x 113
[11:31] zilvian: lol my phones dead i forgot to charge it last night
[11:31] zilvian: and this isnt a real issue
[11:31] zilvian: just a small arugment
[11:31] zilvian: basically
[11:31] zilvian: dont act too responsible
[11:32] zilvian: like u dont condome modified cars
[11:32] zilvian: basically
[11:32] aspeclogan: WHAT?
[11:32] zilvian: tell drivers
[11:32] zilvian: or buyers i mean
[11:32] aspeclogan: why can i NOT tell drivers to stay on track?
[11:32] aspeclogan: what is SO wrong
[11:32] aspeclogan: with that
[11:32] zilvian: be responsible about their driving
[11:32] aspeclogan: its THEIR choice
[11:32] zilvian: try not to do stupid shit in public roads
[11:32] aspeclogan: to go to the mountain
[11:32] aspeclogan: i am stating MY CHOICE
[11:32] aspeclogan: to stay OFF the mountain
[11:32] aspeclogan: i didnt say
[11:32] zilvian: dude theyre gonna fucking do it
[11:33] zilvian: because thats the only choice theyll have
[11:33] aspeclogan: i understand that
[11:33] aspeclogan: dont do drugs
[11:33] aspeclogan: dont do drugs
[11:33] aspeclogan: oh wait
[11:33] aspeclogan: people still do drugs
[11:33] zilvian: yea and ur selling the fuckin product
[11:33] zilvian: u sell everything BUT the drug
[11:33] aspeclogan: mannnnnn
[11:33] zilvian: ok i got it
[11:33] aspeclogan: when your phone "gets charged" back up
[11:33] aspeclogan: call me
[11:33] zilvian: u only see this as business huh?
[11:34] aspeclogan: WHAT THE FUCK
[11:34] zilvian: if u do
[11:34] aspeclogan: dude
[11:34] zilvian: thats totally understandable
[11:34] aspeclogan: call me on the phone
[11:34] zilvian: because then
[11:34] zilvian: u have nothing to do with it
[11:34] zilvian: ur good at what u do
[11:34] zilvian: and thats ur business
[11:34] aspeclogan: i dont know why you are saying all of this
[11:34] aspeclogan: are you purposely trying to ruin my day?
[11:34] zilvian: lol no dude
[11:34] zilvian: dammit
[11:34] aspeclogan: charge your phone dude
[11:34] zilvian: im trying hard to make a point
[11:34] aspeclogan: call me on the phone
[11:34] zilvian: and trying to figure out the kind of person u r
[11:34] aspeclogan: cause youre coming at me real wrong right now
[11:35] aspeclogan: OF ALL the vendors
[11:35] aspeclogan: that you could be talking to about this
[11:35] aspeclogan: u come at ME
[11:35] zilvian: lol
[11:35] aspeclogan: calling me FAKE
[11:35] zilvian: honestly
[11:35] zilvian: OMG
[11:35] aspeclogan: and telling me
[11:35] aspeclogan: i think of this
[11:35] zilvian: i never called u that
[11:35] aspeclogan: like BUSINESS
[11:35] aspeclogan: only???
[11:35] zilvian: ok 1
[11:35] aspeclogan: you dont know me dude
[11:35] zilvian: ur a cool ass vendor
[11:35] aspeclogan: nah im not
[11:35] aspeclogan: you make me want to quit
[11:35] zilvian: 2 u seem like a great guy on the forums
[11:35] aspeclogan: and you ruined my day
[11:35] zilvian: this isnt agaisnt u
[11:35] aspeclogan: thank you fucking very much
[11:36] aspeclogan: bye
[11:36] zilvian: personally
[11:36] aspeclogan: i take this shit SERIOUSLY
[11:36] zilvian: nOoOooO
[11:36] aspeclogan: and PERSONALLY
[11:36] zilvian: dammit
[11:36] aspeclogan: bye
[11:36] aspeclogan: call me when your phone is CHARGED
[11:36] zilvian: ur not being an adult...
[11:36] zilvian: -.-
[11:36] zilvian: ok Ill call u and we can talk about it

PBucch
10-26-2006, 12:55 PM
Logan, quit catching feelings. How can you take that guy seriously, fuck em.

Maeda
10-26-2006, 12:55 PM
WTF. Fucking posers that don't know crap just assuming they know what's up.
This guys a fuckin' moron living three feet up his own asshole. You can tell by his response he's never REALLY modified a car heavily or driven much. After enough canyon runs, deaths, and crashes you learn the track is a much safer place to be for SERIOUS driving. 10/10ths driving.

His analogies hold no water.
People are responsible for themselves. If a fucking idiot buys a gun and shoots himself in the head do you attack the gunshop? The gun manufacturer? No you blame the suicide or the causes surrounding it not the tool.

Logan sells tools. You do with them what you want. If you want to be responsible and use them at the track and not hurt anyone in the process so be it. If you want to be a fuck head and run people off the road using logans parts go ahead (we won't blame logan either). If you want to commit ritual acts of sodomy on children, we still won't blame logan.

See how this shit doesn't add up?

Rogan buddy, don't let him get to you. He's commiting a horrendous logical falacy to ruin your day.

SlowCoupe
10-26-2006, 12:57 PM
awesome. so how old is this kid? and where are his parents?

A Spec Products
10-26-2006, 12:58 PM
Logan, quit catching feelings. How can you take that guy seriously, fuck em.

I know, I was trying my best man. It's just so out of the blue.

But I DO take this job very personal, so its hard to put in all you've got and get the hate.

chmercer
10-26-2006, 12:59 PM
thats a load of shit bro. whoever that is is a fucking tool shed. you dont need customers like that. street racing is for retards. this is not to say ive never done it but im fully aware that it is reckless and irresponsible. I dont try to play it off like im cool guy street racer, but i cant change that ive made bad decisions in the past. im sure a lot of people on here have the same opinion on the issue.

i drive my shit hard, on the track. i spend a lot of money on parts to do so. most of the time on the street i drive like grandma. if thats being fake, then you can go tell all your buddies at the highschool lunch table about how chmercer is a poser and then go drag race your civics into a tree after class.

Maeda
10-26-2006, 01:03 PM
i drive my shit hard, on the track. i spend a lot of money on parts to do so. most of the time on the street i drive like grandma. if thats being fake, then you can go tell all your buddies at the highschool lunch table about how chmercer is a poser and then go drag race your civics into a tree after class.

Amen brother.

10-26-2006, 01:04 PM
HAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAHH WTF CAN YOU EXPECT FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD? logan.. stfu! don't be such emo! you're pissing me off that you're wasting your time reading and talking to posers and initial d lovers.
get back to work and ship me my parts so i can play initial d at horse thief! ok? i heart ASPEC!!! and i heart law dawg too! see ya at the mountains bitches... i mean my playstation that is. hahahaha.. let's have a drink at sema! see ya suckers!

i heart justdrift!

[email protected] hearts everyone that drifts legally no matter who's organization you chose to attend!

crazyikimasho
10-26-2006, 01:05 PM
Unfortunately, this kind of attitude coming from fellow forum members frustrates us all. I read the previous thread in reference here and the truth is most of us do not condone illegal street driving. Yes, its your choice whether you do or not and you can do whatever you like. No one other than the law is telling you not to.

The fact that we as vendors sell these parts do not make us hypocritcal or an "accessory". What you choose to do with your parts is your choice. Most of us encourage driving on the track for several reasons, just a few include:

1. It is safer for you as well as other drivers on the street (your mistakes on the street are not fair to other drivers)
2. The likelihood of you damaging your car is higher on the street than on the track.
3. Its illegal. Tickets, attorney fees and impound all suck.

Anyone who this makes angry that we don't agree with "street drifting", etc needs to rethink the situation. We sell parts that encourage motorsports, not illegal activities. You don't see people driving full blown rally cars on the street do you? When was the last time you saw a full spec D1 car driving down the freeway? Both of these cars are built with parts we sell.

Brian
10-26-2006, 01:08 PM
What the heck?

This is such a stupid argument.
I sell aftermarket car parts too. Does that make me the same kind of person Logan "is"?
You are comparing things that should not be compared. Your logic is not proper.
Logan is a great person. He has a job. He sells car parts.
He also does not support people being reckless.
This IS a possibility.
I sell car parts. I don't want people to be stupid and sreet race. It is very simple.

A Spec Products
10-26-2006, 01:15 PM
I just talked it over with the person on the phone.

I see his side and he sees mine, and we see eye to eye now.

I was glad that we could talk it over, so please don't attack him. Stay on topic, not to flame.

We are cool, he was just frustrated with having a modified car in a society who comes down hard on it.

We talked it out and everything's all g.

I'm not quitting my job. Haha

drift freaq
10-26-2006, 01:18 PM
Logan, I know that guy, he has actually been around for awhile. Decent guy though he gets a little strong headed sometimes.
I agree with you, he went after you rather harshly and I think he did not choose his words wisely. I understand your position and agree. Its a vendors place to suggest proper use of the product rather than improper use.
On top of that a lot of people fail to realize what is said on the forums is considered by law to published writing. In that sense anything said on the forums could possibly be used in a lawsuit.

As far as people calling people posers that is just stupid immature bullshit IMHO. Fact is a person does not have to prove anything to anyone. You do what you do and have a right to do as so do I.
You do not have to prove anything. To many people get caught up in the macho bullshit of prove it man. I have a fast car, I drive it. I am preparing it to do some track stuff. Fact is when I am ready to take it to the track I will. Am I a poser for not doing it before then? Unfortunately in some of the fucked up misguided eyes on this forum yes. Truth be it, I know what I have done in the past. There are people out there that know what I have done in the past.
I do not have to prove jack shit, to the young fucking assholes on this forum, that seem intent on calling people posers because they have not seen I or anyone else at the track yet.
Do I think street racing is wise? No. Did I do it when I was young and foolish? Yes. Would I do it today? No. For that reason I tell others do not make mistakes that I made. I was lucky the most that ever happened to me was exhibition of speed and reckless driving and loss of my drivers license for 6 months. I learned , the hard way.
Some people are not as fortunate they die. Take it to the track, whenever possible people and do not call people posers, just because you do not know them.

exitspeed
10-26-2006, 01:20 PM
Fuckin PM Phlip and have this pansy Banned. I don't care who it is. GTFOH!

A Spec Products
10-26-2006, 01:28 PM
Fuckin PM Phlip and have this pansy Banned. I don't care who it is. GTFOH!

Please don't ban him, we squashed da beef.

You should ban Brian, cause he's not moving enough weight.

SRd240sx
10-26-2006, 01:32 PM
that guy has a stupid argument

TheSquidd
10-26-2006, 01:43 PM
Logan you're a woman. :D Stop selling guns to kids.

Sounds like a dumb kid to me. He'll learn when he's fishing a friends lifeless corpse outta the hills of GMR!!!! JDM!!!! OMFG TOUGE!!!11

Hell I love driving on a canyon road, but I don't go 1/3rd as fast as the car can go on a track. Always stay in my lane, but give it some throttle. I donno. It's a balance. As a car enthusiast, love to drive fast, but as a non-retard I don't want to die anytime soon. Balance.

My post adds nothing.

exitspeed
10-26-2006, 01:44 PM
Please don't ban him, we squashed da beef.

You should ban Brian, cause he's not moving enough weight.

Alright that's cool. It's not like I could anyway. :duh:

A Spec Products
10-26-2006, 01:46 PM
that guy has a stupid argument

eh its all good

we all have our own opinions, gotta try to respect them

i just caught so off guard

like that foo socked me in the jaw right quick, so i had to put the gat hand on the strap

TheSquidd
10-26-2006, 02:26 PM
eh its all good

we all have our own opinions, gotta try to respect them

i just caught so off guard

like that foo socked me in the jaw right quick, so i had to put the gat hand on the strap

From: Loganpedia.org (http://www.disney.com)

STRAP
Main Entry: strap
Pronunciation: 'strap
Function: noun

1. A weiner.

A Spec Products
10-26-2006, 02:57 PM
I will smack you with my gat hand, Squiddler on the Roof.

Either that or give you a harsh haranguing.

Dictionary dot com that shit crocksaucer.

SAT words dawgs.

TheSquidd
10-26-2006, 03:50 PM
I'll fix you good Mr. Logan. Just you wait.

paikman
10-26-2006, 03:51 PM
fuck that shit logan
should we blame nissan too for making affordable RWD cars in the first place that allow people to do retarded things? lol!

Jefferson
10-26-2006, 04:30 PM
Damn thread title scared me a bit, without Logan I don't know who I would give my loot to.
Guy kinda sounded like he didn't like track driving. Who doesn't like beating the shit out of their car and not get in any type of trouble wahtsoever for it.
Atleast you got it all squared away

tacotacotaco
10-26-2006, 05:20 PM
AND SO IN THE LAND OF ZILVIA a land of miscommunication and mis assumption the battle ended and peace lay over the forums as everyone went back to the marketplace of bargains and the overzealous headed into the wilderness to hunt the rapidly growing population of the noob dodo. As the gentry retired to their special lodge to view wonderous women brought and shared for all other gentry to gaze and admire upon. Mean while in the dark land of the lowely post count red square. Trouble and dissention slowly cast its dark fog as a rebellion brewed.

fromxtor
10-26-2006, 06:01 PM
This follows the same line of guns dont kill ppl.....Logan sells parts. It's his F'n job, what you do with the parts after you buy them is up to you.

A Spec Products
10-26-2006, 06:21 PM
AND SO IN THE LAND OF ZILVIA a land of miscommunication and mis assumption the battle ended and peace lay over the forums as everyone went back to the marketplace of bargains and the overzealous headed into the wilderness to hunt the rapidly growing population of the noob dodo. As the gentry retired to their special lodge to view wonderous women brought and shared for all other gentry to gaze and admire upon. Mean while in the dark land of the lowely post count red square. Trouble and dissention slowly cast its dark fog as a rebellion brewed.

Oh noes!

Flashbacks from textbooks and classes and SAT prep!

That's a good ass paragraph, I'd make that shit into a sticker.

Where are the wonderous women though?

Please, tell me.

1Via!
10-26-2006, 06:29 PM
Well, it really turned my stomach reading that stuff. I don't like reasoning like that.
The fact that we all drive or want to own trendy cars that can be drifted or are otherwise modify beyond stock while living in a society that is governed by people who live partially in an abstract vacuum, seperate from the reality we all live in. They dictate the law to the law enforcement who can harrass us and take our vehicles because of what we do with them.

Now, selling performance car parts to the masses is profitable business. These parts are tested and built by companies who test their products on the track. They are not built to be long term reliable or meet manufacturer or government specifications. When these parts are sold to a member of public, the manufacturer and the middle man are not liable for what those things are used for.

Is the rifle manufacturer responsible for the hunting rifle that is used to kill a person? No.

Is the crystal ware manufacturer responsible for the person who uses their glass to consume deadly amounts of alcohol? Of course not.

Put your argument in perspective. I don't think any of the examples I used are at all pertinent or realistic; they do point out how flawed this guys reasoning is. I understand what his main point is, but its fucked up to single out a person who has such a large personal and emotional stake in the big scheme that is the performance import car culture.


AND SO IN THE LAND OF ZILVIA a land of miscommunication and mis assumption the battle ended and peace lay over the forums as everyone went back to the marketplace of bargains and the overzealous headed into the wilderness to hunt the rapidly growing population of the noob dodo. As the gentry retired to their special lodge to view wonderous women brought and shared for all other gentry to gaze and admire upon. Mean while in the dark land of the lowely post count red square. Trouble and dissention slowly cast its dark fog as a rebellion brewed.
Lol
Have you by chance listened to the new DJ shadow record?
Reminds me of the intro.

ThatGuy
10-26-2006, 06:34 PM
If you can blame Logan for Illegal Activities on Public streets...

and people can blame guns for killing people...

I can blame my keyboard for any words I ever mispelled while posting.

FUCK YOU KEYBOARD!!!

DJPimpFlex
10-26-2006, 06:52 PM
Well, it really turned my stomach reading that stuff. I don't like reasoning like that.
The fact that we all drive or want to own trendy cars that can be drifted or are otherwise modify beyond stock while living in a society that is governed by people who live partially in an abstract vacuum, seperate from the reality we all live in. They dictate the law to the law enforcement who can harrass us and take our vehicles because of what we do with them.

Now, selling performance car parts to the masses is profitable business. These parts are tested and built by companies who test their products on the track. They are not built to be long term reliable or meet manufacturer or government specifications. When these parts are sold to a member of public, the manufacturer and the middle man are not liable for what those things are used for.

Is the rifle manufacturer responsible for the hunting rifle that is used to kill a person? No.

Is the crystal ware manufacturer responsible for the person who uses their glass to consume deadly amounts of alcohol? Of course not.

Put your argument in perspective. I don't think any of the examples I used are at all pertinent or realistic; they do point out how flawed this guys reasoning is. I understand what his main point is, but its fucked up to single out a person who has such a large personal and emotional stake in the big scheme that is the performance import car culture.



Lol
Have you by chance listened to the new DJ shadow record?
Reminds me of the intro.

obligatory sci-fi quots in electronic music?!? NEVER!

gun
10-26-2006, 07:01 PM
"11:24] zilvian: theyre sinning"

Gawwdddd this ^^ provides mea prefect picture of the kind of person this kid is. He's an immature school-boy-bitch. Selling the syringe doesnt mean u sell heroine.. dont mind that kid

HerbReal
10-26-2006, 07:32 PM
Its totally uncalled for on him shooting you in a way that his thoughts like selling "offroad use only" automotive related goods are just as bad like guns, killing people etc etc. Its been posted that its in your own discrection to use the item that Logan sells. In reality, if this zilvian is a mature individual he would know exactly where Logan stands, HE'S JUST A VENDOR! who loves to help out most people's passion in cars.

Serious note, that Zilvian needs a anger/depression therapy. Sounded like he hates the whole drifting/spirited driving or whatever car related function and people getting killed by these events that pushed him to confront Logan because of the parts he sells.

Herb

drift freaq
10-26-2006, 07:42 PM
obligatory sci-fi quots in electronic music?!? NEVER!
ry obligatory Anime quotes in Jungle :D

qt_240
10-26-2006, 07:49 PM
If you can blame Logan for Illegal Activities on Public streets...

and people can blame guns for killing people...

I can blame my keyboard for any words I ever mispelled while posting.

FUCK YOU KEYBOARD!!!

LMAO .. hahaha.. dude.. so0 funny.. hahaha... good point to0 ..

Maeda
10-26-2006, 08:07 PM
bwahaha
nah its a good reason to quit logan. but we've had this little discussion already hahaha

hmmmmm one day get that loan...and go to town!
-dousan_pg

silverarrow27
10-26-2006, 08:12 PM
Just reading the first few lines pretty much summed the whole issue. I thought the opposed party approached with the issue in an immature way. It's common sense that aftermarket parts are not for street use and even the the manufacturers of the parts, the companies even have it on their sites that their parts are not for street use.

Sorry to say but that person is thick headed, immature, and tempermental. Makes me upset at the issue, tells me how stupid some people are nowadays.

FaLKoN240
10-26-2006, 09:16 PM
Man, don't quit your job, that's weak.

That dude hastling you made you feel shitty, especially when you didn't feel like getting into it in the first place.

There's pros and cons to everything, you can't be held, or feel guilty about the lack of responsibility others have.

1Via!
10-26-2006, 09:28 PM
"11:24] zilvian: theyre sinning"

Gawwdddd this ^^ provides mea prefect picture of the kind of person this kid is. He's an immature school-boy-bitch. Selling the syringe doesnt mean u sell heroine.. dont mind that kid
Yeah... some of us have diabetes.

And you should go listen to the new DJ shadow its not all that electro stuff you think it is. Case in point: Seein' thangs featuring David Banner
haha:werd:

kouki_s14
10-26-2006, 11:49 PM
well since everything is settled there isn't much left to say, but to dont let anything ruin your day. It's even worse if you let it drag on to turn into a bad week. In the end you will regret wasting your time dwelling on bullshit that really doesn't matter. It's cliche, but life isn't long enough to be pissed off/sad/depressed, so smile and say fuck it.

vvtisupra
10-27-2006, 12:13 AM
Man i couldn;t even finish that whole conversation.

I know people that have guns that only shoot at non living targets

Swapped engines doesn't mean your car polutes more, there are plenty of swapped engines that pass the sniffer just not visiuals

and so on and so on....

Like it was said to a female reporter...

You're equipped to be a prostitute why aren't you one ?

or something along those lines.



hahaha most of the fine quality products i've seen logan sell are baller rims... jsut cuz you got baller rims you have to go to the mountains ?

Just cuz your car is "gangstah" doesn't mean you're a gangster

and so on and so on.

Logan get your shine on. See you at the tracks of willow springs international raceway

BOROSUN
10-27-2006, 12:20 AM
AND SO IN THE LAND OF ZILVIA a land of miscommunication and mis assumption the battle ended and peace lay over the forums as everyone went back to the marketplace of bargains and the overzealous headed into the wilderness to hunt the rapidly growing population of the noob dodo. As the gentry retired to their special lodge to view wonderous women brought and shared for all other gentry to gaze and admire upon. Mean while in the dark land of the lowely post count red square. Trouble and dissention slowly cast its dark fog as a rebellion brewed.

lol are you talking about jacking off to internet porno?:wackit:

downshift_sideways
10-27-2006, 01:07 AM
Guess I'm sorry for making that thead?

Not really. I know the guy, and Understand his point of view. And I also understand Logan's point.

Neg Rep him, he can careless. I can too. I still dont see the other "zilvian" point of view adressed.

Zilvia has a shitload of opinions, people get flamed every day.
No one really cares anymore. but its not something you should even question about quitting your job.

stay up logan.
-Anthony

btw dont try to search for the thread, its been deleted and i will keep it in PM's now.

KwKouki
10-27-2006, 01:15 AM
to the child trying to tell Logan he is a bad/evil person.........hang yourself plz

Dousan_PG
10-27-2006, 01:35 AM
f people like this
i get this shit at work alot upset or argueing customers
fuck em
do what you gotta do
any job youdo someon can say some bull like this. guy has a stick up his ass

sadness is for poor people.
enjoy life
keep working logan and um...yeah. f em.

my friend was a cancer dealer working for camel. omg he killed your family member.
fuck off!

no one forces these people to buy parts or buy cigarettes or eat mcdonalds and become a fatty and diabetic.

RiversideS13
10-27-2006, 01:49 AM
that guy has weak argument because it is all depend on individual's choice.

for example:
People could buy a gun to protect his family or go do some rampage at a school, is that vendor's fault?

alchol was means as relax people but some idiots DUI and kill innocents life, is that Bar's fault?

some kids got rape from internet dating via myspace, is that mySpace's fault?

mistaanime
10-27-2006, 02:00 AM
dont sweat it...like aaron says..no one forces ppl to do things or buy whatever that it maybe...the doode sounded like some dumb ass kid that is just trying to start some trouble..next time just block them and ignore them.

airsoft
10-27-2006, 02:02 AM
It was me. I am the asshole.

Just kidding.

Good to hear it ended peacefully.

Logan is also the name of Wolverine in Xmen.

WTF am I talking about.

Ricks15
10-27-2006, 02:06 AM
that guy has weak argument because it is all depend on individual's choice.

for example:
People could buy a gun to protect his family or go do some rampage at a school, is that vendor's fault?

alchol was means as relax people but some idiots DUI and kill innocents life, is that Bar's fault?

some kids got rape from internet dating via myspace, is that mySpace's fault?


True true people can do what ever the Fuck they want to do but in reality they got to suffer for there mistakes that they made. Its all personal choice and if do and abuse shit like that dont be crying later on cuz you put you're self in a big mess. Be an adult and deal with you're own actions like a responsible human being. And for that FU who lashed out on you Logan just straight out diss that dumb FU he aint got no authority to go and assult you on a public forum. This place is all full of E-thugs that thing they are the shit running there mouths but when you tell them to confront you they get all scared:bite: Fags.:rl:

downshift_sideways
10-27-2006, 02:07 AM
that guy has weak argument because it is all depend on individual's choice.

for example:
People could buy a gun to protect his family or go do some rampage at a school, is that vendor's fault?

alchol was means as relax people but some idiots DUI and kill innocents life, is that Bar's fault?

some kids got rape from internet dating via myspace, is that mySpace's fault?

The argument was quite decent to tell you the truth.

Logan, I belive the "Zilvian"'s argument was clearly stated during your guys phone call. can we adress that by any chance? I know it.

and he wasnt assaulted in a public forum, He IM'd him via AOL instant messenger. Therefore that would not be considered a public forum, yet a way to personally send him a message.

!Zar!
10-27-2006, 03:18 AM
Man, that is all fucking bull shit. You all need to get it in your heads that when you modify your cars it is for offroad use. Then you get your tampon in a twist when the local laws start to crack down on you. This is the one time that I am truely up set of something on zilvia. I can't even explain how I feel right now.

fucking kids.

vvtisupra
10-27-2006, 12:50 PM
Stock KA woooo wooooo ! Thats why there are CARB legal parts wooo wooooo

What if people modify their cars to be VIP cars do they have to take them off the street wooo woooo !

fucking kids ? More like ignorant people

vvtisupra
10-27-2006, 12:53 PM
Nissan modified the 350z models to a "track model" How come that is street legal ? ITs got brembos and forged wheels and aero ooooooooo

tacotacotaco
10-27-2006, 12:53 PM
Oh noes!

Flashbacks from textbooks and classes and SAT prep!

That's a good ass paragraph, I'd make that shit into a sticker.

Where are the wonderous women though?

Please, tell me.

Premie section girl pic of the day!

tacotacotaco
10-27-2006, 01:02 PM
lol are you talking about jacking off to internet porno?:wackit:

Its a Premie thing

FaLKoN240
10-27-2006, 01:03 PM
The argument was quite decent to tell you the truth.

Logan, I belive the "Zilvian"'s argument was clearly stated during your guys phone call. can we adress that by any chance? I know it.

and he wasnt assaulted in a public forum, He IM'd him via AOL instant messenger. Therefore that would not be considered a public forum, yet a way to personally send him a message.

Sounds like the guy is you.

That argument is fucking stupid. No one is to blame for SOMEONE elses actions.

Everything is fine in moderation, it's not our fault that irresponsible idiots roam the Earth, that's why we have police to regulate them. Don't place the blame on the man that hands you the flame, he tells you it was hot, and you could burn yourself (OFF ROAD USE ONLY) if you get burned (arrested, crash, die in a fire or whatever), it's not his fault, he warned you.

Logan is a cool guy, and definately not someone you should pick an argument with because he's around and cool to chat with. Fucking take it up with someone that mountain races like a fag, and posts it up on the forums. I'm sure if you wanna go to the mountains you SHOULD have friends that want to do it, idiots of a feather flock together, or whatever. If you don't have friends that want to run with you, maybe you should find a band of fanboy initial d retards at the local arcade to caravan with you in their mom's Sienna.

A Spec Products
10-27-2006, 01:25 PM
Sounds like the guy is you.

Nah its not him, no worries. Don't continue the witch hunt.

Premie section girl pic of the day!

I can either be:

A) A Vendor
B) A Premier Member

Can't be both. I tried to pay Thatguy in smokes but eh I guess it doesn't work like jail.

Oh and yes, we all know all my customers are hard parkers like me, we roll down the street 5mph so you can see the whip! Yellin at all the breezies!

Increase the peace! Case closed!

LB.Motoring
10-27-2006, 01:27 PM
Logan, I hope your day is better, yah i know who your talkign about, he just gets a lil hot headed easily..

sorry about making that joke about you are the drift touge king of azua, he must have thought you were being condrictive, Most users know your prespective allready.... I say Hi once at the shop and i know it :keke:

Later man, hope your day goes well :keke: