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gotta240
10-23-2006, 12:40 AM
Simple as that. What are the largest tires YOU HAVE fit on the front of an s14, with ONLY rolled fenders.

NO pulls
NO overfenders.


Please post

Rim size, width, and offset
Tire size

thanks!
TheWolf
10-23-2006, 05:51 AM
265-45-17 on a 17x9 +20 offset.
AceInHole
10-23-2006, 05:55 AM
285/30/R18 on 18x10 +11

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/IMAGE_00245.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n247/AceInHole/IMAGE_00241.jpg

Looking for bigger rims to fit a 305 up front with 335's in back. That will probably require cutting/ flaring though. Whoever says stagger setups are bad on a 240sx is driving too slow.
gotta240
10-23-2006, 06:23 PM
Ace in hole- you are a fucking G. How low were you and did you have any rubbing issues at full lock? Do you autocross with those?

Everyone is trying to tell me to run a 225/40/18 but i actually want traction up front. I have a 245/45/18 plus 22 offset on my front rims at the moment, and was thinking they wouldn't fit. After reading the above, i'm pretty sure my tires(although a little tall) will fit. I might just cough up the money and get a set of new tires though.

I'm worried about daily driving with ruff roads and i'm debating between
a 245/40/18 and a 255/35/18.. Opinions? Should i go a lil wider with a 35 series tire to help save the rim?

Thanks fellas. Appritiate your time.
DoriftoPnoy
10-23-2006, 06:25 PM
wow i've been wanting to make this thread. please share ppl. thanks
DoriftoPnoy
10-23-2006, 06:26 PM
oh and can you also put whether you have a spacer or not and how thick? thanks....
GSXRJJordan
10-23-2006, 08:14 PM
gotta240 - how wide is ur rim? Going wider and thinner isn't saving anything, unless the rim is waaay wide - you wanna save a rim (from potholes, etc) run the taller tire
ispypsi
10-23-2006, 09:36 PM
this thread comes up alot.

not my car but a friend's

it was like a 305/35-17 on a 17x10 wheel. (and some camber :P )
gotta240
10-23-2006, 10:46 PM
Jeffmilano- My front rim is 9.5 plus 22 offset.

Actually, when you run a 35 series wide tire in a 245, and 255 width, the one with the 255 width will be TALLER and help save the rim.

The Height is just the PERCENTAGE of the WIDTH. SO, a 205/45/18 tire is actualy NOT AS TALL as a 310/35/18.


What i dont understand, is WHY people run a 225/40/18 on these rims? Seriously, isn't it just all the fad? i dont see a purpose to it at ALL. And the sidewall flex is bs if you ask me.... So why?
usdm180sx
10-23-2006, 11:23 PM
gsracer has 285's on a 10" wide rim with +20 offset. sorry no pics but you can find them on fresh alloy
gotta240
10-24-2006, 12:05 AM
and this is in the FRONT....right?
AceInHole
10-24-2006, 05:56 AM
and this is in the FRONT....right?

I've run 275/40/R17 up front (17x9 +8 offset) and the current 285/30/R18 up front (18x10 +11). Anything higher than a +11 offset on an 18x10 up front may hit the coilover.

The tires in my pics are Kumho V710's, which are slightly wider than "normal" tires. Offsets I list take into account spacer thickness (I.e. +30 wheel -19mm spacer).

The reason I run 18's up front is the overall diameter is smaller than the 275/40/R17. On 240's, you're limited to tire size as far as how low you can lower the car. With the 285/30/R18's, I can get dangerously low (Greddy lip comes close to scraping on some courses). I'm also limited by frame rail, currently. My fenders seem to clear fine with a big pull. If I go to a larger tire size I'll have to make some custom fenders, but the frame rail may still limit my suspension setup, which I don't like.

I don't really have any input on daily driving with those tire sizes. I have 17x8's with 235/45/R17's for that. R-compound tires don't take to street driving very well.
sean350z
10-24-2006, 07:14 AM
hey ace,

can you comment on the differences in 'turn-in' and steering capabilities with a 285 up front compared to your 235s you run on the street? are you experiencing mad understeer b/c of the width? what power are you putting down that you'd need tires so wide?
R33GTS-T
10-24-2006, 08:01 AM
hey ace,

can you comment on the differences in 'turn-in' and steering capabilities with a 285 up front compared to your 235s you run on the street? are you experiencing mad understeer b/c of the width? what power are you putting down that you'd need tires so wide?
you've still got a ways to go until you need tires that massive Sean lol
sean350z
10-24-2006, 08:04 AM
oh i know...i'm personally going for 225/40/18 but figured i'd like to hear the reason behind going so wide...seems to be a waste but maybe there is a function?!?!? function i will probably never ever need!!!
AceInHole
10-24-2006, 10:29 AM
oh i know...i'm personally going for 225/40/18 but figured i'd like to hear the reason behind going so wide...seems to be a waste but maybe there is a function?!?!? function i will probably never ever need!!!

because this is who i have to beat:
http://www.siastuning.com/2005Solo%20Vic2a.jpg
AceInHole
10-24-2006, 10:34 AM
hey ace,

can you comment on the differences in 'turn-in' and steering capabilities with a 285 up front compared to your 235s you run on the street?
can't compare street tires to DOT competition tires. Turn-in with the 285's is nuts due to the stiffer sidewall and sheer traction.

are you experiencing mad understeer b/c of the width? Without the tire stagger in the current setup, oversteer is the issue I need to resolve. A small amount of dialed in understeer is actually preferred regardless of tire stagger, though.


what power are you putting down that you'd need tires so wide?
350rwhp
gotta240
10-24-2006, 01:10 PM
Ah. I knew that wasn't on a stock fender.

Whats the largest you guys have ran on a STOCK or ONLY ROLLED FENDER?
AceInHole
10-24-2006, 01:16 PM
Ah. I knew that wasn't on a stock fender.

Whats the largest you guys have ran on a STOCK or ONLY ROLLED FENDER?

It's a stock fender with a big roll/ pull :P

Completely stock I had issues when the car was my daily driver, slammed on 245's.
gotta240
10-24-2006, 02:40 PM
Hey Ace, thanks again for your time in this thread and for not flaming.

What size rims were you running when you had rubbing issues on the 245's and how tall were they? When you mean completly stock, does that mean not even a rolled fender?

So from your experience with fitment(apparently more than all of zilvia combined!) do you think i will have issues with a

9.5, plus 17 offset with a 245/45/18 tire with only rolled fenders? I know that tire is a little tall(just temporary), but what do you think the widest tire i could fit with that setup? I'm leaning towards a 255/35 but would like a little imput before i drop 4 bills on 2 tires.

thanks again man. Your saving me lots of time/frustration and money!
gotta240
10-25-2006, 01:29 AM
Anyone at all? thanks!
gsracer
10-25-2006, 02:10 PM
gsracer has 285's on a 10" wide rim with +20 offset. sorry no pics but you can find them on fresh alloy



i run 18 by 10 + 20 offsets 285 -295 25/18 , also have run 255.40.18 azenis

i have also ran 20 by 11 plus 30 offset on a 305.25.20





here are the 18's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2982smll.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2969small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2965small.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2968small.jpg





the twenties


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2919.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2925.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2926.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/IMG_2929.jpg
twofourzerosx
10-25-2006, 02:39 PM
why the hell do u have 20's on a 240...take that shit off, the 18's look great
gsracer
10-25-2006, 03:49 PM
why the hell do u have 20's on a 240...take that shit off, the 18's look great


i dont they go on the lexus, it was just for fun lol
gotta240
10-25-2006, 04:40 PM
GS Racer- are those specs from the REAR or FRONT?

I'm wondering about the fronts. It seems the front fenders are stock, with a roll. Right? Whats the widest you've gone without rubbing issues? thanks again.

Question for every/anyone. 255/35 or 245/40 tires in the front for daily driving on somewhat ruff roads?
gsracer
10-25-2006, 05:00 PM
front is 18 by 9 + 15 i have a roll on the front ive gone 245/40/ 18 , and i just hammered the inner fender out where ever it rubbed , and voila no more rubbing, oh yea i run 2 deg of camber
gotta240
10-25-2006, 08:10 PM
thank you sir! Much appriciated!
motonagam
10-25-2006, 09:49 PM
because this is who i have to beat:
http://www.siastuning.com/2005Solo%20Vic2a.jpg

That's Vic Sias from San Francisco Region SCCA Solo2!! I'm from there too, and I see him all the time at our local autocross events. He is insanely fast!! Thank goodness my S14 is in DSP, and not SM with him, or else I'll be losing all the time. haha. SM is a very competitive class. DSP is actually a competitive class too, because the national champion Ben Martinez is in my class... but I like the competitiveness because it makes me work hard to become better.
gun
10-25-2006, 11:27 PM
^^ that bimmer makes me laugh, it's so damn aggressive hahahahahaha
OBEEWON
10-26-2006, 08:42 AM
Man my tires are tiny compared to these. I want to go to 315's tho.
AceInHole
10-26-2006, 09:43 AM
DSP is actually a competitive class too, because the national champion Ben Martinez is in my class... but I like the competitiveness because it makes me work hard to become better.

Current DSP national Champion is Mike Shields, and I still owe him and his co-driver beer. In SM, Vic Sias and Bob Tunnel are pretty dominant, except on the tighter courses where Chris Travis' (from my region) EG Civic can keep up (and lead). He's (Travis) actually building an EF Civic that should be faster, so I've got a decent SM mark to gauge my own car to around here.

If the DSP Bimmers stay in DSP (and don't get moved to BSP) you can blame me and the co-driver (Chris Franson). The argument was submitted that a 240sx could be equally competative in the class (200rwhp'ish, bigger tires).