ticket,tickets!!!!!!!!!!

[worangejuice]

Have been pulled over three times in the last month.
I have tickets & court date already so cops can't really do anything. Still would rather avoid being pulled over for no reason other than technicalities.
My problems harping me.

1.tinted windows (apparently no tinting of the front windows)
I have a fix it ticket to take off the tint on the f/windows.

a.Should I take all of it off & waste my $125 I spent. I think the front no tint and back tint sucks. But I have no idea to get around this.
b. take front off,keep back on and stfu

2.Modified exhaust (no modified exhausts in the state of CA,this has been told to me twice)

I have been pulled over many times for this. I have a paper w/a pass on db's level for CA. It printed out that I passed but I really didn't pass. It read at like 112 or something nasty. Would rather avoid the police all together.
here are my solutions

my ride:na ka24de w/intake
2.25 cat-back piping w/
$220 Blitz nur-spec muffler AND $55 baffler

a.$150 Magnaflow dual-tip muffler(quieter,keep performance,cost as mush as resonator)

b.$90 vibrantperformance.com high flow resonator(cheaper than replacing whole muffler but pretty expensive for this,keep performance, I like the look of the angled muffler,quieter, still pulled over for 'modified' exhaust)

c.$20 restrictive resonator at local muffler shop (lose power but keep looks I like, cheap fix for noise, probably pulled over still on the look of muffler)


I just want it to be quiet w/performance and be a one time fix. Probably would have saved some mad cash to put elsewhere in my car if I did all this before.

I trust you 240 guys opinions.
Thanks,
Onevia:thumb:

[TurK]

Wow just goes to show you how Strick California is....what % tint do you have ?

[worangejuice]

I think it's barely over legal or right under. The cops say that I can have the windows as dark as I want, but the front is not allowed at all. But I htink you can have like 20%

[drift freaq]

Have been pulled over three times in the last month.
I have tickets & court date already so cops can't really do anything. Still would rather avoid being pulled over for no reason other than technicalities.
My problems harping me.

1.tinted windows (apparently no tinting of the front windows)
I have a fix it ticket to take off the tint on the f/windows.

a.Should I take all of it off & waste my $125 I spent. I think the front no tint and back tint sucks. But I have no idea to get around this.
b. take front off,keep back on and stfu

2.Modified exhaust (no modified exhausts in the state of CA,this has been told to me twice)

I have been pulled over many times for this. I have a paper w/a pass on db's level for CA. It printed out that I passed but I really didn't pass. It read at like 112 or something nasty. Would rather avoid the police all together.
here are my solutions

my ride:na ka24de w/intake
2.25 cat-back piping w/
$220 Blitz nur-spec muffler AND $55 baffler

a.$150 Magnaflow dual-tip muffler(quieter,keep performance,cost as mush as resonator)

b.$90 vibrantperformance.com high flow resonator(cheaper than replacing whole muffler but pretty expensive for this,keep performance, I like the look of the angled muffler,quieter, still pulled over for 'modified' exhaust)

c.$20 restrictive resonator at local muffler shop (lose power but keep looks I like, cheap fix for noise, probably pulled over still on the look of muffler)


I just want it to be quiet w/performance and be a one time fix. Probably would have saved some mad cash to put elsewhere in my car if I did all this before.

I trust you 240 guys opinions.
Thanks,
Onevia:thumb:
ok your misguided on a few things. 30% tint is legal. darker than that is not. Someone probably put limo tint on your windows. that is is illegal.
On your exhaust, the Magnaflow dual tip should not be costing you $150, if it is someone is taking you to the cleaners royally!
Get the hell out of Culver City, that should cure some of your problems hahahhah. No but seriously if you know the area is a problem area you should be doing your utmost not to be a problem. I don't buy this crap that some of the members on here throw out about, "I do not agree with the laws so I am going to put stuff on that I like even if it turns me into a cop magnet" bullshit!!
You want heaps of trouble you want your car impounded!! Follow that rule. Its immature and just plain stupid. You drive an illegally modified car be prepared for the worst but also do not rub their noses in the shit. Sorry this is not 1969! Hippie bullshit does not work anymore. You act defiant and be defiant you will get the book thrown at you and hard!!

You want to run a modded car and get away with it then go with the Magnaflow dual tip. remove the tinting from the front wondows. You would be surprised how much they won't even look at you if you do this. This is not Texas , where people carry loaded rifles on gun racks in their pickups.i.e. lots of civil freedom. Not saying Cali does not have civil freedom but its different.

I also do not want to hear any fucking Cali sucks California bashing. Especially from out of state people that do not live here. There are things here that we like and that are cool. If you don't like Cali for other reasons and like your state better great!! You live there, I am not saying my state is the greatest don't go saying yours is for the sake of bashing ours.
P.S. If you do not live in California you have no right to bash California smog laws if you do complain all you want.
We live here.

[EchoOfSilence]

smog laws still suck :o

hahahaha. I agree though.

[worangejuice]

See, that's the thing, I was being very respectful of the law when I bought these parts in mind. I kept the cat on my exhaust, It sucks that I didn't know how loud my exhaust would be,that's why I bought the baffler for it. The tint, I did get a little carried away on , but it is certainly not limo tint. I think it was like 30% but yeah maybe a little over. Sucks that I payed for it now I have to rip it all off. It's weird too. I've had this stuff on for a year and now I'm being bothered with it. I've been pulled over in Westwood, the 10, and Hollywood, Hollywood is actually where I make my residence. I don't want the loudness of my exhaust, so now I'm fixing it(yeah,yeah stuff gets pushed back,money,etc.)I found a universal Magnaflow Muffler on the cardomain.com store for $150. Where can I find a cheaper one?
Here is the said culprit
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a253/worangejuice/102_7620.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a253/worangejuice/102_7621.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a253/worangejuice/102_7625.jpg

[drift freaq]

three things got you. That symbol on your hood is odd looking. The large angle tip exhaust and your dark tint. You only have to take the tint off the drivers and passenger windows. The rest is not a problem. I drive in Hollywood to. Like I said before Culver City is part of the problem. Just like City Of Industry.

[DrtyRat]

I have been pulled over many times for this. I have a paper w/a pass on db's level for CA. It printed out that I passed but I really didn't pass. It read at like 112 or something nasty. Would rather avoid the police all together.
here are my solutions

my ride:na ka24de w/intake
2.25 cat-back piping w/
$220 Blitz nur-spec muffler AND $55 baffler


WOW :eek2: This is considered too loud? I have a Nur Spec exhaust on my s13 w/a test pipe and when I had my resonator on I could barely hear it. I've considered putting it back on b/c of just how quiet it really is w/it in.

[worangejuice]

Yeah, that stickers not there now, it was a goof. So that's why I'm thinking it's time to go low key and just put on a nice sounding magnaflow, by the way do you know where I can get a good priced one, like I stated above?

[worangejuice]

hmmm DrtyRt, is it the full Blitz cat back system? Cause I got custom 2.25" piping that was mandrel bent, could this be the problem?

[frankist]

try painting your hood with rattle can, and take the sticker off. if you want a quiet exhaust i wouldnt bother with a aftermarket exhuast system.

[trsilvias13]

get over it. You live in cali. I do too. Does it matter you keep the cat.. no... There no legal exhuast in a cops eyes. Even people I know have shiny tips are pulled over. The cops thinks well if you are really legit then the state ref should be able to pass you no problem. Complain when you get ref tickets like me. I have two already in like two years. Just be glad you got a fix it ticket. I'll be happy with it.

Here is my advice
pay the fine - I think it is $35 bucks for the window or you can simply borrow someone window or you can rip off the front tint, go to inspection and pay someone to put back the tint and it will not be $125. simple as that.

The exhuast, put on a stock one pass inspection, put it back or keep stock one. It isnt that hard. OR you can get a new muffler that aint as crooked and shiny as the one you have on because you are asking for it.

[!Zar!]

Get propper tent, remove that rockstar sticker, remove the rear passerger window sticker, paint the hood and, put your license plate back up front.

Other than that, don't drive late at night. You're more likely to be pulled over.

[cisco240]

I believe that in Cali you cannot have any tint on the front driver & passenger side windows, but can go as dark as you'd like on the rear windows. I had limo on my rear windows & 35% up front but never got harrased about them when I was still in so Cal.
As far as exhaust go, I still had the stock one when I left Cali. But since I knew I would be returning to Cali, I took the cops harrasing people for exhaust into consideration & picked a cat back that was as low key as possible (RS*R ExMag-not too loud or flashy). I just have to wait till next year to see what kind of crap I get from the police when I return home.

[94cc0rd]

Have you been driving like a dumbass? All the suggestions above are good, like painting the hood, removing the front tint, and maybe changing exhaust, but none of it will matter if you drive like an ass.

If you drive normal and aren't racing around everywhere, maybe it's just the certain routes you take are always patrolled?

I'm in socal as well and I've only gotten pulled over once so far *knock on wood*, and it was for no front plate. I got a fix-it for the plate and a warning on my ehxuast. It was in K-town on Western ave.

[NSR250]

try to get an exhaust that's not so much a cop magnet.
this is the homemade exhaust I have on a S14 using a 3" magnaflow 12259 muffler. I didn't even bother to install a tip on it. I painted the whole thing black to attract the least amount of attention as possible.
http://jackchou.com/cars/exhaust1.jpg

http://jackchou.com/cars/exhaust2.jpg

[!Zar!]

The legal amount of tint has to let 70% of the light through.

Which allows you to have 30% window tent.

That IS cali state law.

[blubottlemax]

The legal amount of tint has to let 70% of the light through.

Which allows you to have 30% window tent.

That IS cali state law.

I hate to have to tell you this, but thats not the way tint percentage works. 30% tint means it only lets 30% of the light through, not 70%. 30% tint = illegal on front windows in Cali.

[devonkyle77]

check and see if california law has a loophole in the window tint law.
pennsylvania has a loophole in which you can have any percentage of tint deemed necessary if you have a Rx for your tint. meaning, EXTREME sensitivity to light.
works for me, but i am very believable. i work for an eye dr, and i am fair skin with pale blue eyes. so i am the stereotypical person with sensitivity to light.

[moss13]

When cops are around roll your windows down til they're gone:x:

[worangejuice]

Thanks for all the input guys :ughug:
I put the front plate on ;got wider holes drilled in at nissan downtown, my drill at home wouldn't drill through.(right after I paid my $174 no front plate ticket!I missed the initial court date:duh: and moved, got busy forgot about it,set up the new court date back in July for Oct., so it escalated to a $700 ticket!)
I don't drive around like a dumbass or anything. Usually when the cop pulls me over it's late and I have my windows up. 90% of the tiime I drive with my windows down.
I'm planning to paint it, w/lip,sideskirts. I'll prob. remove the tint on the front windows and see how I like it. Then maybe take the back off. I think the shop who put it on said they'd remove it for free if ever need be. Easier than sweating a way at Ralph's parking lot with a blow dryer and a razor. (There are no electrical outlets outside in my apt. parking lot))
*Does anyone know of a reputable paint shop; so many options so little time in L.A.:hammer:
The exhaust,I'm leaning heavily towards the Magnaflow dual-tip, cause of the almost stock look, and a guy at Tanabe told me that the muffler I have is loud cause it's a straight through design and that one with a bigger canister around it will sufficiently be quieter (makes sense to me). The resonator will cost $55 at my local muffler shop. I agree that the angled giganto muffler coming out the back is a magnet.

My dumbest most irritating ticket is when I crossed over into the commuter lane in a traffic back-up and got busted. I had two people in the car, but you may not pass over the double lines,only at a break in the lines ou may pass. $350!! was the fine. Cali is no joke. It sucks cause I knew I couldn't do it and I did it anyways.:duh: So of course last Saturday I was on the same road in the same situation, and I didn't move a muscle as five cars did the same thing I did and got awaay with it. I guess the fine worked.:Owned:

[Phlip]

Skip thr muffler shop until you need them to put the shit on, they will charge you the same for installation as they do if you had bought it from them.
Go to www.summitracing.com and get a universal muffler, then take IT to the shop

[backroadtouge]

dang for all those fines you coulda moved outta cali, liek to texas! im trying to devise a easy to get to gun rack for a roll cage. lol.

[Phlip]

Wow, getting too hot in here, time for some comic relief:
http://images.deepbox.com/media/funny_pictures/19ca14e7ea6328a42e0eb13d585e4c22.jpg

[drift freaq]

^^^^^^^:rofl: fucking great philip

[revat619]

FYI, you can have a cat-back exhaust in CA. The key is knowing your rights and knowing the vehicle code. If it meets noise level requirements and you dont touch the cat its fine. You can get the california vehicle code online. Seriously, just google it and the next time you get pulled over for "illegal exhaust", cite the code and watch for the look on their faces. Its really pretty funny. They'll try to pull stuff out of their ass and feed you a bunch of BS, but its useless. The most they'll be able to do is get you on a noise level violation. Then you have to take it to a sherrifs department or whatever and have them test it. My car passed fine. (i have a 3 inch exhaust that splits into two 2.5 inch pipes.) Matter of fact the first time it happened to me, the cop who did the noise check asked me what i was pulled over for.

cop: "He said THIS was too loud?"
me:"no, he just said it was illegal"
cop: "well thats not true. you havent touched the cat so its fine. what he should've done if anything was given you a noise violation ticket."
me:"i told him i didnt touch the cat, but he said that didnt matter"
cop:"well it does. Even still, your car isnt THAT loud. It actually sounds pretty good, alot better than a lot of the other imports round here. but any louder and then you'll be looking for trouble. *signs off my ticket* The next time you get pulled over, and it'll probably happen, just show them this and you'll be on your way"


I swear that is what a sherrif told me. To this day i keep a copy of that ticket in my center console. That night i found a copy of the CA vehicle code online and sure enough he was right. Just know your rights and they cant pull bs on you.

[dct223]

sorry to hear that, but yea that is def some bad luck.... I live in CA and i have not once gotten pulled over for my exhuast or any mods (had my n1 duel exhuast for about 3 years now), the only time i got pulled over was for no front late and that was just a warning.

I really think it has to do with how you drive, I never really super speed on local, and when i do see a police car i coast in neutral, or accel very slowly. It really could be presentation of the car too, i dont have tint, no flashy looking aero etc...

for exhuast im sure its said but go to a muffler shop, and the tint, ive also heard tinting front windows is illegal. My friend had like 10% front tint on his coupe that we coudlnt even tell was tinted but the police officer gave him a fix it ticket for that.

and +1 for getting rid of that rock star sticker

[sideview_180sx]

I was never harassed for my exhaust and it was a definate pick on me symbol. Thank goodness for racial profiling and not import harassment haha. jk. Revat is right, know your rights. BTW knowing is half the battle GI JOE!!!!!!!

[samms95s14se]

For any one who needs to know the laws like revat said I took this from the DMV website.

Adequate Muffler Required

27150. (a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.

(b) Except as provided in Division 16.5 (commencing with Section 38000) with respect to off-highway motor vehicles subject to identification, every passenger vehicle operated off the highways shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and properly maintained so as to meet the requirements of Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200), and no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar device.

(c) The provisions of subdivision (b) shall not be applicable to passenger vehicles being operated off the highways in an organized racing or competitive event conducted under the auspices of a recognized sanctioning body or by permit issued by the local governmental authority having jurisdiction.

Modification of Exhaust Systems

27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system so modified.

(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.

[revat619]

^^^

There you go. It says you cant, but then right after that, there's the loop hole clear as day.

[samms95s14se]

If any one is worried I would print that out and put it in your glovebox just to be safe.
So it's ok to have an "upgraded exhaust system" as long as it works like your original one did... like properly working Cat and properly working Muffler with no modification done to either one! Now if it goes above the allowed 95 dbA noise level that's just your bad luck with picking out an exhaust system.

[worangejuice]

*ideal direction. Magnaflow 2.25" in/out 3" dual-tip
Take off all tint (I like my stickers :P)
Paint the car

*Until I read up on magnaflow reviews earlier.
So I've been reading up on the magnaflow dual-tip I want, most said it was quiet at cruising and loud and 'deep toned' at wot. So not so quiet, would hate to buy it and have the same shit. Many also said that there is a loss on low end and a slight gain in high. Some with 240's said they absolutely hate the magnaflow dual-tip that points up to the sky at the outlet. Listened to sound clips of new sentra and sounded good for a single-tip, but all started sounding the same.lame. So Fuck I don't know. Trying to keep the cost down here.Still want a nice look to it (saw the magnaflows with no tips,not so much like) Like the sound clips on the rs-r's and a have read that the apex-i are quiet. But they still cost $200+ for a muffler (what I spent on my Blitz nur-spec can) Does the fact that I have mandrel-bent 2.25 piping on instead of a full cat-back system make a difference in sound? I actually found a 240 with the a version of the dual -tip and a sound clip on here, can't find it again. Hard to compare the sound on clip to real life:(?
Man I bitch and talk(type) alot.
Again thanks for all the advice on here.

[revat619]

2.25 inch piping will give you that annoying raspy sound. It sounds like crap. Get 2.5 inch cat back with a nice muffler and you're fine.