Chargespeed widebody.....couple questions?

[BlackS14]

Actually just more of a reassurance type deal....I'm heading to Enjuku this Friday to pick up a set of CS 20mm front fenders as well as at the end of the month...going to be picking up the 50mm rears....

I was wondering from the folks that have dealt with or are running there fenders......how is the fitment? Great, good......not so great (lots of custom work?).

-Bill

[fliprayzin240sx]

Most rears arent hard to fit. It all depends on how you mount it. You can adjust rears and play with them by making them bubble in or out.

[punxva]

well your best bet is to rivet it

[widegts]

i have worked with every type of fiberglass / poly junk i think, and w/ the rears i have installed.. best to do

- MATCH the wheel wells.
- IF you want a slam'd look, match the wheel wells then sit lower...

and so forth.


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YES rivets is best first, to check for fitment, rubbing, and so forth. Dont forget to cut your fender if you decide to go with extremely wide rims/tires. We got the 30mm rear fenders for a s13, and made it fit 19x11.

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FRONT FENDERS

- Mount on to see where to drill
- ENSURE fitment before drilling. HOLD IT IN PLACE
- Get a sharpie/paint pen, and mark your holes
- Drill and mount
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As for fitment problems, the authentic CS should be like 240 or so, and those fit great. When you get to the ones i sell, copies, then it will fit good 90%, but you might have to get a bodyshop to refinish a little.

[irritatedmax]

well your best bet is to rivet it

any rational behind your comment? if you have someone with some talent put them on it doesn't matter how you mount them. rivet them on and they could look like crap or mold them in and you still run the same risk.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Rivets will hold it in place alot better than just bondoing it in.

Honestly tho, if your gonna run rear over fenders, you might as well do it right by cutting the stock fenders and having all the room in the world. What we did with my roomates car is this...we cut the outter panel roughly 2 inches up. Once you do that, you basically have a gap between the inner panel and the outer. Pull the inner up and weld it into the outer piece. Cut and smooth out the over lapping pieces (doesnt have to be pretty since itll be covered by the overfender). Rivet the overfenders and you can bondo it to smooth it out if you want.

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[Ninjabread]

^^funkin nice color... is it the one off the x-terra?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Nopes...scion Xb Camouflage metallic

[Ninjabread]

Pimp ass color IMO.

[punxva]

any rational behind your comment? if you have someone with some talent put them on it doesn't matter how you mount them. rivet them on and they could look like crap or mold them in and you still run the same risk.

actually there is some rational behind riviting them on, its first of all a more stable and stronger means of attachment, its also easier than dealing with bondo, might not look as good, but if your that anal about it, then you can always fill the rivits with bondo, and mold the over fenders to the car too, then you have th best of both worlds, the clean look, plus the strength of the rivits. Think about it, do you really want some double sided tape, and bondo being the only thing holding on the rear over fenders??? Another logical reason is if some how they manage to get damaged, its alot easier to take a rivit out, and replace the piece, without doing too much body work, since if your getting replacement over fenders, then the holes are still drilled in the stock quarterpanal. Thats just my 2 cents, but im sure many will agree with my logic, sry i didnt clarify the reasons behind my comment

[BlackS14]

Well as far as I have seen, the fronts are a bolt on deal...no drilling involved seeing as how they are a full replacement.

That is what I had in mind with regards to the rears...is cutting out fenderwell (doing it right) and mounting with rivets then bondoing over.....

Now I just have to find the wheels that'll fill em up.....I'm thinking Volk GT-N's....18x10 up front and 18x11 out back....woot!!!!

-Bill

[irritatedmax]

punxva, i wasn't attacking you, i just have never heard of someone straight bondoing wide fenders on, that is just gangster and asking for troubles. i didn't realize you were distinguishing between the two in your orginal post.

my brother riveted and molded his in and they look awesome. definitely start by riviting them on even if you mold them in.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Well as far as I have seen, the fronts are a bolt on deal...no drilling involved seeing as how they are a full replacement.

That is what I had in mind with regards to the rears...is cutting out fenderwell (doing it right) and mounting with rivets then bondoing over.....

Now I just have to find the wheels that'll fill em up.....I'm thinking Volk GT-N's....18x10 up front and 18x11 out back....woot!!!!

-Bill


11s are overkill, 10s with proper offset (roughly -5 or -10) will be more than adequate. 10s upfront, i cant say nothing cuz im running 17x10s all around. Only thing with 10s up front is you will more than likely be having rubbing issues somewhere, specially at full turn...

[punxva]

yea bro its cool, i was just explaining it a little more in depth so blacks14 too, its all good man

[BlackS14]

Thanks a million guys...here's my next question.....can anyone forsee problems with using the CS fenders with say like a full kit from Origin or Vertex??

-Bill

[cisco240]

Thanks a million guys...here's my next question.....can anyone forsee problems with using the CS fenders with say like a full kit from Origin or Vertex??

-Bill

You shouldn't have any problems. I have a Version Select body kit on my car w/ Origin Lab fenders (practically same stuff as CS) & they fit great together. I have it sitting on some 9" wide wheels up front (no rubbing issues at all) & 10.5" in the rear.
Here's a pic:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h31/cisco240/240indriveway.jpg

[BlackS14]

OMG......Cisco you're car is gorgeous.....quite a bit what I want mine to look like...only black in color....Jesus. Two questions....are you running stock rear fenders (looks like you are)? And do you have some different pics from different angles....rear, side, front...post em away...please...

EDIT...oops..three questions. What brand and offset are those wheels?

-Bill

[yokotas13]

some is a show queen

id hate to see that moulding hold up to drifting vibrations lol

[cisco240]

OMG......Cisco you're car is gorgeous.....quite a bit what I want mine to look like...only black in color....Jesus. Two questions....are you running stock rear fenders (looks like you are)? And do you have some different pics from different angles....rear, side, front...post em away...please...

EDIT...oops..three questions. What brand and offset are those wheels?

-Bill

Thanks, I was acutally thinking of black before I decided on the red.
1. No, I am not running stock fenders. I have 50mm overfenders molded in & had the gas cap/cover/lid made to sit flush w/ the fenders so that is looks almost stock (I didn't want it to be real obvious).
2. I do have some more pics. I can post some up later, but for now I'll just post my cardomain link: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2064334
3. The wheels are Racing Hart R5 Pro in 19X9 & 19X10.5, I can't remember the offset though.

[BlackS14]

Wow man......very impressed...and kinda weirded out as well seing as how it's very close to the same things I want to do with my car. Glad to see I'm getting the right stuff for my build. Thanks again man!!

-Bill

[fliprayzin240sx]

To answer your other question front fender fitment wise, chargespeed front fenders are prolly one of the better fitting sets out there over origin or version select. Dont know how AIT fenders are but if imma base it on how they theyre kits are, id say origin or vers are better than AIT.

[DJPimpFlex]

I really learned to love the rivited look IMO. Also if you paint them they end up looking ok.

[SilviaVsSupra]

i got a pair of fenders from Raceonusa... and ive never seen fiberglass that poorly made. looked like it was hand made without any type of mold, they were cracked, scratched, broken, warped, you name it. needless to say i sent them back.. so far im screwed out of the money, (been 3 weeks w/o anything in return) and got OEMs.. good luck with yours!

[irritatedmax]

i got a pair of fenders from Raceonusa... and ive never seen fiberglass that poorly made. looked like it was hand made without any type of mold, they were cracked, scratched, broken, warped, you name it. needless to say i sent them back.. so far im screwed out of the money, (been 3 weeks w/o anything in return) and got OEMs.. good luck with yours!

raceonusa is junk, i repeat junk. my brother bought a pair of front fenders from them and after many hours of trying to line them up they were scrapped and sold. the body line was way off, the edges were really rough and the corners were cracked. if anyone thinks they will save money using their stuff think again. buy good stuff the first time.

[EJ253]

You shouldn't have any problems. I have a Version Select body kit on my car w/ Origin Lab fenders (practically same stuff as CS) & they fit great together. I have it sitting on some 9" wide wheels up front (no rubbing issues at all) & 10.5" in the rear.
Here's a pic:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h31/cisco240/240indriveway.jpg

what offset are the wheels? BTW your car is probably my favorite 240

EDIT: oopslah, you already answered that Q :D sorry bout that

[Siizzzoooo]

here's a shot of mine at the body shop

my car is slammed so i guess we cut out about 4-5 inches.... cuz u never know :p

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/sizzo2/IMG_0874.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b260/sizzo2/IMG_0873.jpg

[BlackS14]

Do you have any more picd SLizzzooo. If ya could...even if thru PM'ing..I'd like to follow the build...and bodywork. Let me know

-Bill

[Siizzzoooo]

you can follow the body work here

http://240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90485

[twofourzerosx]

offtopic but siizzzooo i notice u have ur doors off. is that the harnes clip right there in the jam???? s13s u basicaly have to take the dash out to get to it! thats awesome

[Siizzzoooo]

yeah, it just unplugs at the door jamb apparently. i honestly didn't know myself since my body man pulled them

[silvia_s14]

what front and rear fenders are those and what size. sick ride. cant wait to see it when its done

[BlackS14]

you can follow the body work here

http://240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90485

ANyway else you can post pics....I have to register....then wait two days...and have 20 posts....Jesus!! LOL...

-Bill

[silvia_s14]

ANyway else you can post pics....I have to register....then wait two days...and have 20 posts....Jesus!! LOL...

-Bill

there in the picture thread. go check them out. page 56 i think

[nissanhpower]

i seen one that was revited and it looked real nice

[BlackS14]

Have a question regarding wheel selection now....and what I can stuff in there after the car is done with paint...

I'm looking at the Gram Light 57F Pro's sizes as follows

Front: 18x10 +18 (or could even go +12)
Rear: 18x11 +11

I'm trying to figure how close to "flush" I'll be, as whether or not I'll have clearance issues with coilovers, rubbing, ect....will I need to space them out at those offsets...

Anyone have some insight? To the guys who posted who have the same set-up...(widebody)...what are you running...or what do you plan to run?

-Bill

[Siizzzoooo]

I've got 18x9 +/- 0 and 18x10.5 -26mm
on 225/40 and 265/35

the fronts, I had to grind the lip of the wider 20mm fenders, and run some camber

the rears, i just bowed the rear fenders + grinding the inner lip+ camber

[BlackS14]

I've got 18x9 +/- 0 and 18x10.5 -26mm
on 225/40 and 265/35

the fronts, I had to grind the lip of the wider 20mm fenders, and run some camber

the rears, i just bowed the rear fenders + grinding the inner lip+ camber

Holy crap....the lip on the rears is MASSIVE.....sooooo fuggin sexy man. Great job. I'm def curious to see the final product. How did you install the rears....rivets...bodytape....then filler/bondo??

Nother quick question.....will 18x12's fit on the back of an S14?? Like a -2 offset? Or is 12" a bi too much....specially when only running 10" up front...I'd presume nasty understeer....

-Bill

[projectRDM]

They'll fit fine, for $165 anyway.