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gotta240
10-06-2006, 07:47 PM
Ok. I just got some sparco ds2 wheels that are 9.5 by 22 offset.

THEY DO NOT CLEAR MY ALLUMINUM Z BRAKES.

They almost clear, but the back of the spokes scrape the caliper. I basically just need a 5 or 10 mm spacer to clear. are there any spacers this small that are safe to use?

I have some HUGE 2 inch spacers i use on my truck that bolt on with lug nuts, and have new studs. Obviously this style wont work because the lug nut itself if much larger than 5 mm.

suggestions please? I know this isn't rocket science, but i'm nervous about any kind of spacer as this will be driven hard, and on a track as well.

A Spec Products
10-06-2006, 07:53 PM
5mm is safe on stock studs

10mm is safe on extended studs

gotta240
10-06-2006, 07:56 PM
thank you sir.

So, are there "GOOD" or "BAD" small spacers? Are the pep boys ones fine or what is recomended?

thanks!

slideways2004
10-06-2006, 07:59 PM
just use a 5mm spacer. even with stock studs you should have enough threads to be safe. even at higher speeds

for 5mm, just get w/e. and make sure the torque is perfect. not too much or not too less. 90 ft. lbs

A Spec Products
10-06-2006, 08:06 PM
yeah just get whatever

at 5mm it doesnt need to be hubcentric

just make sure you torque down properly like ^ said above

slideways2004
10-06-2006, 08:16 PM
yeah just get whatever

at 5mm it doesnt need to be hubcentric

just make sure you torque down properly like ^ said above

yay! this is stuff is easy for guys that work with wheels all day:bigok:

95zilvia
10-06-2006, 08:21 PM
i believe they make 3mm spacers too
i remember seein em in japan
yokotas13 can get em for you if u need
PM him

!Zar!
10-06-2006, 08:29 PM
No matter what spacers you use, make sure to have about 80flbs and a hubcentric ring,

Most importantly make sure you have seven full turn of each lug nut.

Dousan_PG
10-06-2006, 08:29 PM
3mm is good stuff
5 is pushing it imo
i know some folks who had problems with 5s
but know others who have no problems
i run 3mm on stockers
make the wheels 10.5 +12 instead of +15
mo gangsta

A Spec Products
10-06-2006, 08:40 PM
3mm is good stuff
5 is pushing it imo
i know some folks who had problems with 5s
but know others who have no problems
i run 3mm on stockers
make the wheels 10.5 +12 instead of +15
mo gangsta

true story, ive never had issue with 5mm but i prefer no spacers to begin with

10.5+12 eh? mo money, mo GAYngsta

gotta240
10-06-2006, 09:58 PM
thanks for the quick and great replies guys.

OK.

LITTLE CONFUSION. Most said get whatever, others said get hubcentric. Excuse my retardedness, but what exactly is hub centric and where would i get them? The spacers i have in my mind are 5 lug universal spacers from autozone and they basically look like a flat piece of metal with holes in it.

thanks again for not flaming.

!Zar!
10-06-2006, 10:06 PM
The spacers are the product themselves that lower your offset.

Hubcentric rings are metal/plastic rings that go over your hub to take up the space between the rim/spacer. Because even though you car might be say, 5x114.3. there is a little wobble room untill you tighten the rim down all the way. All the hubcentric ring does is make sure your wheel is tightened down in the center to reduce vibration.

zenki-217
10-06-2006, 10:06 PM
I run a 3mm which I feel safe on ... I had some bad luck with some 5mm almost died to say the least.

gotta240
10-06-2006, 10:36 PM
ZAR- thank you so much for your patience. So it sounds like i can use my spacer AND hubcentric ring together. Right? I'm still not clear on what it looks like, but i'll try to find a picture of one.

Where can hubcentric rings be purchased? Does it matter what type i get and how much SHOULD i pay?

Zenki217- please elaborate on your story. So far everyone else says 5 is safe.

slideways2004
10-06-2006, 11:20 PM
imo hub rings on 5mm spacers are unnecassry b/c teh stock hub is still sticking out. 5mm is supposed to be cheap and adding nissan hub centric rings on that would defeat the purpose of this cheap solution

gotta240
10-06-2006, 11:34 PM
so the hub centric rings are basically just an extension of that center round part of the hub? If so, i'm beginning to understand!

How much are hub centric rings?

Also, isn't that the purpose of having CONICAL style lug nuts and conical holes in the wheels? Naturally the wheel HAS TO center itself...right? What am i overlooking or confusing now?! lol.

!Zar!
10-06-2006, 11:56 PM
Yes, the conical style nuts do what a hub centric ring does, but the rings are cheap About $7/$15 plastic/metal. They are more of a convience item, but it makes your life alot easier than hoping if your wheel is centered when you tighten the lugs down.

The only time people have a real need for them is with spacers/aftermarket rims.

I have see people who had vibration with conical lugs, only to place a hubcentric ring on and the problem be fixed. Save youself the hassle and pick some up. Don't be a water drinker.

You will have NO problems with any spacers, just as long as you have 6~7 complete turns on the lug nut when tightening.

McRussellPants
10-07-2006, 12:18 AM
hub Centric Rings are worthless.

As long as you tighten your wheels in the air and have conical lugs it doesn't matter.

gotta240
10-07-2006, 01:39 AM
AAAAYyyyyyaaaaayyyyyaaeee!!

So many conflicting stories!!! lol. OK. So where should i get these hubcentric rings? For 15 bucks, i guess i cant go wrong.

projectRDM
10-07-2006, 10:08 AM
Discount Tire sells hub rings on Ebay for pretty cheap if you really want them. Honestly though if you don't eat glue for a living like a lot of people on here you don't need them, just tighten the wheel correctly in the air, centering it as you go. As for spacers, 5MM is more than safe if again you know what you're doing. I've known dozens of people, including myself, who've used them with no ill effects, but there are people who have problems because they tighten incorrectly, cross thread lugs, or hit curbs and shit. The only thing you might want to do is as you're tightening the lugs, hold the spacer on center to the hub as best as you can, it's not enough to worry about but letting it sit to one side may introduce a little NVH at high speed depending on your wheel balance/alignment.

zenki-217
10-07-2006, 10:30 AM
Hoenstly I dont know what the prob was I had the 5mm on my car about a month and they seemed to be border line enough threads when I put them on... I drove from Illiniios to Oklahoma and when I was in ok I almost lost 1 wheel it broke a stud off and stripped 2 more ..... It might have just been a bit of bad luck but I threw the fuckin spacers in the garbage to say the least.

gotta240
10-07-2006, 10:58 AM
great. thanks for the explanations!

DAMN! Broke a stud and stripped 2 more?!?! Did you torque the wheels down or did you tighten in a star pattern? Thats pretty scary man. I think i'll just count the turns i get out of the lug nuts and if necessary, i'll use extended studs(hopefully i wont)

With a 245 tire up FRONT i think i'll be putting a lil more stress on suspension/wheel/lug nuts!!!!!!!!

usdm180sx
10-07-2006, 12:15 PM
fuck Shit Crap Cunt

Do you have teret's syndrome? haha j/k

chmercer
10-07-2006, 12:44 PM
just get extended studs they are like 10 bucks a pack

gotta240
10-07-2006, 02:12 PM
perfect. will do.

and yes, i have a strange form of teret's. Its called car-anger teret's. Whenever something doesn't go exactly as planed(which is ALWAYS) i get extreme rage and bursts of unapropriate language!

Yuri
10-07-2006, 10:24 PM
I've measured the Pep boys spacers using a vernier caliper and every set has come out to 7mm if this helps anyone.

byhi
10-08-2006, 12:37 AM
i believe they make 3mm spacers too
i remember seein em in japan


i think summitracing offered them too for some time, i know summitracing also has them (other sizes and adapters) for very cheap

yokotas13
10-08-2006, 03:31 AM
i believe they make 3mm spacers too
i remember seein em in japan
yokotas13 can get em for you if u need
PM him
yer teh poop

I can get 3,5,8,10mm and bolt on spacers as well yes

B ut as they said, 5mm on stock studs, 10mm on extended studs