Homemade BMC Stopper?

[nsn240]

Ive been thinking about doing this for a little while now, i was wondering if anyone had made their own and had pictures. I know it wont be to hard... i would get a cusco, but they are only made for rhd cars.

Any pics/help would be appreciated
I searched and came up with this
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=93699&highlight=master+stopper

mike

[GSXRJJordan]

also interested in this, for the same reason as the guys in the first thread (watched the firewall move when I had someone hit the pedal). I personally don't have the time to design/fab one right now, maybe once Feb hits and retail slows down :/

[A Spec Products]

We got some Cusco ones in for LHD car, but they were only Honda models.

IIRC there were no 240 LHD versions.

[nsn240]

We got some Cusco ones in for LHD car, but they were only Honda models.

IIRC there were no 240 LHD versions.

*Cough* Design and sell! *cough*
Ill be the test car :)

[MadScientist]

Sorry I caught this post a little late in the day... I went out and took pics of the way I set-up the Cusco BCS. You can make it work on LHD. You dont need all the parts and you have to reverse the smaller bracket, and as you can see the bracket is not sitting straight.

If you look on the right side suspesion tower you can see where the Cusco RHD BCS was designed to be placed. The LH side does not have this flat placement... and actually has support ridges that make insallingt the BCS a bit difficult. I will probably in the future get a torch and a 44oz precision instument to make a flat section on the LH suspension tower.

I have said this before.... if you have upgraded to the Z32 MC and/or Booster... I highly suggest you get or make a BCS!!

http://login.thewebadmin.com/sites/raretrick/files/dir/Cars/PA050138.JPG
http://login.thewebadmin.com/sites/raretrick/files/dir/PA050139.JPG

Peace
Drew

[punxva]

so exactually what does this do? is it supposed to be like an engine torque damper?

[DJPimpFlex]

^I dont know about the actual driving feel difference, but when you push on the brake pedal it pushes the piston into the BMC, and it does flex a bit. Thats wasted enegry. Theroitically it should give a bit firmer brakeing feel.

[Team Rootbeer]

wow, i had no idea these existed, i was actually in the process of making something similar but got caught up in other shit.....maybe ill jump on it again.

ill post pics when i do it.... looks like a peice of angle iron and some hardware should do the trick

[MadScientist]

Theory is something that has not been proven!!

Plain and Simple... the firewall flexes under load from the brake pedal (especially when you do a Z32 swap)...therfore you loose thrust from the booster, which looks like the MC is being pushed out... It is, but its really the Booster.
Driving feel... yes... but its not just a driving feel issue. Its effective braking you are gaining. Without the BCS the pedal will be soft.

If i get a chance I will measure (w/ pics) the difference tomorrow.

Peace
Drew

[projectRDM]

Welcome to 2006. There's currently three different LHD versions on Ebay, all seem to fit fine (I've seen two in person, on a car).

[!Zar!]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissan-S14-S15-240SX-Master-Brake-Cylinder-Stopper_W0QQitemZ300035202007QQihZ020QQcategoryZ33 566QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Bay_Area_sr20det]

omg thats a good desigh im gona make one tomarrow and take a pic!

[cosmoworks]

Better version:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190038782815

-Cosmo

[upSLIDEdown]

Has yours been tested to work with a Z32 BMC??? I've been planning to make one eventually, just haven't gotten around to it. I like that design though, considering it's mounted closer to the source of movement.

[MadScientist]

Welcome to 2006. There's currently three different LHD versions on Ebay, all seem to fit fine (I've seen two in person, on a car).
Your Joking right because the link ZAR posted... is a RHD Cusco BCS... only its been sandblasted so its not Cuco Blue.
http://i7.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/9f/8f/42_1.JPG
I mean hell... compare it to the actual Cusco BCS they have posted with their own pic.
http://i11.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/9f/34/25_1.JPG
http://www.raretrick.com/store/images/products/7522_prime.jpg

Be real, the thing only cost $60 and you guys want to make a knock-off out of Home Depot special Angle Iron. You can make the Cusco fit on the LHD... just like you going to have to make the Angle Iron fit or any of the Egay specials.

This one doesn't even have mounting holes and the suspension tower has support ridges that will be it the way... just like with the Cusco.
http://i23.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/a2/32/ce_1.JPG
This one i'm not to sure about but its interesting, and well thought out, but odd.
http://204.200.223.253/misc/pics/IMG_1896.jpg

Peace
Drew

[cosmoworks]

Has yours been tested to work with a Z32 BMC??? I've been planning to make one eventually, just haven't gotten around to it. I like that design though, considering it's mounted closer to the source of movement.

Yep. The Punk Racing braces work with Z32 BMC's, including the 17/16" version.

-Cosmo

[Team Rootbeer]

so, your saying buy the 60$ cusco one and spend as much time making it fit, rather than making your own out of spare parts and some cheap ass angle iron?
maybe it makes no sense to you because you have no fabrication skills? or you have a show car, where name brand shit matters?

i could give a shit less who makes it, as long as it does what its supposed to do.
btw, you say 60$ bucks like its cheap. which, it is if you buying something other than some 1/8" steel and some bolts........do you realize what they made that for? your paying for the name.

[MadScientist]

OK first off this post started as a question regarding the funtion of the BCS and if it was worth having.... the answer is still YES!!
Now if you were offended over detailed information when I was compairing the Cusco to the 3 other Ebay models... oh well... oops!
Did you lowball the chic at Walmart to see if you could get your shirt at sweat shop price rather than their inflated Roll Back cost!?!
Name Brand? Show Car? No Fabrication Skills?
I'm not going to go on an ego trip about any of this because its not what is being discussed. If you feel like making something for you car... cool... good luck. And no $60 is not alot of money when your talking about automotive performance.

Drop the retarded act and get back on topic!! RE-read last post if need be, I had negative remarks on the Cusco also.

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Drew

[chmercer]

that punk racing one looks a little whack, looks like the bmc would still deflect but it would just torque to the side instead of straight out.

if i cared enough to do this i would get a piece of angle iron and for the stopper thing you could use possibly a countersunk bolt with a fender washer on it, or maybe home depot has like chair feet or somthing, havent really thought it through

[sepulchral]

whats the disadvantage to the firewall pushing in?? its not like it will break or anything? do you get a stronger break pedal feel?

[ThatGuy]

All this argueing about DIY vs. namebrand for a part like this is a bit silly. After all, ask any drifter, any REAL drifter, it doesn't matter if lasts for one event, or a whole season... all that matters is how many zip-ties it's held on with.

Seriously though, I agree about the Punk Racing, just looks like it would flex to the passenger side with the current set-up. I think it would work better with the bracing on both sides, or the "plunger" style of the cusco holding the bottom of the cylinder in place.

[nsn240]

Thanks for the suggestions... the pic MadScientist posted is really helpful. Look like it wouldnt be hard to make at all.

As for DIY vs Namebrand, thats your decision, taking 45minutes to make your own or spending 60 dollars on a part designed for a RHD car, id rather save the $60

[HyperTek]

give it some time somebody will brace it with zipties.. its only a 240 lol =p

[Replicant_S14]

also interested in this, for the same reason as the guys in the first thread (watched the firewall move when I had someone hit the pedal).

Then, when you get your bmc brace put on, you can watch the strut tower sheet metal move while someone hits the brakes. ;)

[sultan]

the carbing fstb has a brake stopper. local dude has the LHD version, too bad it's like 200+ from spl.

that's certainly not the zilvia way, nobody is baller enough for that.

[nsn240]

the carbing fstb has a brake stopper. local dude has the LHD version, too bad it's like 200+ from spl.

that's certainly not the zilvia way, nobody is baller enough for that.

nope, thats why 95% of us have zipties, and other homemade accessories holding something onto our 240s lol

[EchoOfSilence]

enough with the ziptie references

this doesn't seem too hard to make, $60 seems kinda high for that little thing

[Team Rootbeer]

^my reasoning exactly!

[4bangers]

any good MCS beside cusco? I tried looking around but only RHD version and not US LHD version.

[S14DB]

2006... did you read the thread?