View Full Version : Oversized Oil filter & German Castrol, plus new shift boots!
Yes. I had quite an adventure taking the pictures and making the thread.
First off: An oil change using an oversized oil filter and filling with German Castrol in my '93 Coupe.
The advantages of an oversized filter? Slightly higher oil capacity for better cooling, and more filter pleats equals more filtration media.
Here's a picture comparing a stock filter to an oversized one:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/pbanto/german%20castrol/filtercomp.jpg
As you can see, the filter is a teeeeeeeny bit smaller in diameter, but makes up for it in length. Close to a full inch longer than OEM. Recommended filters are: Purolator PureOne, Motorcraft FL-400 (YES! I'm very serious. These filters are found in Wal-Mart for like $4, and are basically Motorcraft shells with a PureOne filter element. No joke.) If you want to find the oversized filter from your filtermaker of choice (Mobil1, K&N, etc.), just cross reference the purolator filter, PL20195.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/pbanto/german%20castrol/Germancastrol.jpg
The German Castrol (GC). Marvelous stuff. Made in Germany, meets very strict Mercedes-Benz standards 229.1, 229.3, and 229.5. Also meets BMW-LONGLIFE-01 standards. 0w-30 fucking fantastic!
Go here (http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=711450&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1&nt=2) for more details on GC.
Secondly, I ordered a new shift and e-brake boot from a seller on eBay for my weathered s13 boot. We don't have stock leather e-brake boots, just a plastic cover.
Anyway, ordered two boots from nedj2000 for $25 shipped. Installed them. here's the results:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/pbanto/german%20castrol/installed.jpg
The e-brake boot required some creativity. I stiched the inside lip of the leather to the rubber to hold it in place.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/pbanto/german%20castrol/ebrake.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/pbanto/german%20castrol/insidelip.jpg
So there you have it. Oil change and Shift boot installation in a day :)
sultan
10-03-2006, 05:46 PM
i don't really understand the purpose of this thread, but i've been using the motorcraft fl400s filters on my q45 and my s13 for a while. too lazy to go to pep boys for purolator filters, wal-mart is so much closer.
kandyflip445
10-03-2006, 06:59 PM
I think that the point was to document and inform of the larger oil filter that can be used on your 240.
thank you kandyflip.
the purpose was to inform people who didn't know that you could use oversized filters on the KA. Complete with part numbers and everything.
it was also to provide an inexpensive option for those looking for new shift boots.
kandyflip445
10-03-2006, 07:22 PM
To add to the shift boot thing...
You can make your own by going to wal-mart and buying some vinyl or somewhere and buy leather. Take the stock one off and cut the threads and separate the two pieces. Trace the pattern on your material, cut out the pattern and sew. NEW BOOT! And it only costs you like 3 dollars.
HyperTek
10-03-2006, 08:44 PM
dammit.. i jus picked up some mobile 1 at walmart and didnt want to get any oil filters there.. ugh i might go back lol
edit: uhhh is that for KA?? nvm
projectRDM
10-03-2006, 08:49 PM
Time warp anyone? I feel like I'm back in middle school.
Did I actually just read a documented thread about an oil change? Maybe you could throw a nice writeup on putting air in your tires too.
So you ran GC with an oversized filter back in middle school?
Look, i'm not showing a step by step on how to change oil. I put two simple pictures up relating to my oil change.
1. An oversized filter compared to stock.
2. The filter box with visible part number and the oil in the background.
It's good information for people who don't know about it. I'm sure this thread has helped somebody.
Thank you for the sarcasm, sirrrrrrr.
91rps13
10-03-2006, 10:24 PM
Time warp anyone? I feel like I'm back in middle school.
Did I actually just read a documented thread about an oil change? Maybe you could throw a nice writeup on putting air in your tires too.
LOL!!! anyways the boot is a good deal.. it was 2 for 25 right?????
gotta240
10-04-2006, 12:45 AM
Since everyone else on here is being an asshole, i'll take the time to say
THANK YOU.
Great write up with exact part numbers and explanations. Well done and informative. I HAVE wondered if a larger filter was out there, and now i know.
g6civcx
10-05-2006, 05:56 AM
You may want to look at what I did before choosing an oil filter.
The Fram was by far the worst. The paper element is very flimsy. The endcaps are cardboard!
My pick from the bunch of commonly stocked filters would be the PureONE. But since they started carrying K&N filters, I use K&N exclusively.
http://g6civcx.angryhosting.com/S13/Tech/Filters.JPG
http://g6civcx.angryhosting.com/S13/Tech/filters1.JPG
http://g6civcx.angryhosting.com/S13/Tech/filters2.JPG
kandyflip445
10-05-2006, 06:39 AM
What's the difference between the pureone and the purolator? More holes in the center cylinder for more flow? I can't see from the comparison pic.
my S14
10-05-2006, 08:52 AM
do you think the mobil 1 oil filter would be as good as the k&n, i always used the fram filters thinking that it would be better then the "cheepos" but im deff thinking differently now wow. and where could i pick up a K&N filter at.
g6civcx
10-05-2006, 08:55 AM
What's the difference between the pureone and the purolator? More holes in the center cylinder for more flow? I can't see from the comparison pic.
It looks like the PureONE has more pleats in the filter element for more filtration. Otherwise I can't tell a difference in the endcap or anything else.
do you think the mobil 1 oil filter would be as good as the k&n, i always used the fram filters thinking that it would be better then the "cheepos" but im deff thinking differently now wow. and where could i pick up a K&N filter at.
I don't know about the Mobil 1 filter because they were not available on the shelves when I did the comparison.
You can get K&N filters at Advance Auto Parts. Otherwise you'll have to look for them, or order online.
I win.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1271/4359802/10488487/193231911.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1271/4359802/10488487/193231904.jpg
95Blue240sx
10-05-2006, 03:02 PM
^^ you lose, FRAM IS crap.
Filter cross referencing lists the TG8A as:
5.178 Height
3.660 Outer Diameter
8-11psi By-pass valve setting
Are you sure that filter fits on the KA? The standard filter OD is 2.9 Inches. The only bigger OD filter I tried was the FL-1A (which is the same part number as that), and that was a liiiittle too big on the OD.
Anyway, to the people wondering about filters-
Mobil1 -Like the Champ filter, this filter is made by Champion Labs. However, it uses a unique end plate and a thicker can that make it the strongest filter available for wide distribution retail sale. It also uses a synthetic media, which inproves filtration and flow. I'm happy to say that this filter is not a fake. It is definitely a unique design.
It uses a synthetic fiber element that can filter out very small particles and is very strong. It is rated just under the Purolator Pure One as far as filtering capability, but is still very much above conventional paper filters. It also has a very strong construction to withstand high pressure spikes during start-up. However, as with all Mobil 1 products, expect to pay 2 - 3 times as much for this filter.
Motorcraft-This is an interesting filter. Basically, it appeared to be a Purolator Pure One filter cartridge in a Purolator Premium Plus case. Don't be fooled by the differently shaped holes cut into the oil inlet. This is the only difference. I have, however, seen that the Motorcraft line tends to change manufacturers. For a while they seemed to be Champion Labs filters, then they went back to Purolators. I also received some information from a Ford technician that the filters that come on the vehicles from the factory are not the same as those that are available to the dealerships.
Like the Purolator Pure One, this filter cartridge features a very large element surface area (400 sqin), but with many pleats (64). This packs the filter together rather tightly and could possibly restrict flow somewhat. I believe could identify the Pure One element media by a purple dye they use at the seam and by the texture. It also has the mysterious assembly string wrapped around the outside of the element. Like the Purolators, it features a spring-loaded metal bypass valve and a nitrile rubber diaphram-type anti-drainback valve. The bypass valve is stamped right into the bottom end cap of the cartridge, so it is all one piece.
Pureone-This filter has a few improvements over the Premium Plus. It has a denser synthetic filter media to filter out smaller particles and more surface area to make up for the flow restriction. Aside from those the cartridge is the same construction as the Premium Plus.
The filter cartridge has an even more impressive surface area of 400 sqin. The potential issue is that this filter element is compressed into even more pleats (64) than the Premium Plus. This may restrict flow more than it helps relieve it, but it is hard to say for sure. It also features a spring-loaded metal bypass valve and a silicone rubber diaphram-type anti-drainback valve, which doubles as the seal between the backplate and the cartridge. The bypass valve is located at the base of the cartridge, not at the top.
Taken From: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
my S14
10-06-2006, 09:12 AM
ok now earlier in this thread we were talking about oversized filters, now as far as i understand if you put an oversized filter in wouldnt you be droping oil pressure? now i know that if you put a undersized filter on a vtec engine the boost in oil pressure helps when the vtec kicks in because the system is partly runs off a boost in oil pressure at a certin rpm. would this also be true on other engines with a veritable valve timing, so if you put an oversized filter on a vvti engine, vtec, or the nissan engines with this, wouldnt you actualy be lowering oil pressure and screwing up the system or weakening the boost created.
kabukie
10-07-2006, 06:29 PM
Would a bigger oil filter result in lower oil pressure?
95zilvia
10-07-2006, 07:40 PM
Why dont you guys use OEM filters?
sultan
10-07-2006, 07:54 PM
Would a bigger oil filter result in lower oil pressure?
maybe a little bit, but don't worry about it. people run oil coolers with no problems and those would affect it much more.
Why dont you guys use OEM filters?
just because it's oem doesn't mean it's the best. costs too much anyway, we're poor.
projectRDM
10-07-2006, 10:03 PM
OEM oil filters are the best, there was a comparison down a long time ago somewhere online.
OEM oil filters are the best, there was a comparison down a long time ago somewhere online.
i agree, i think when R&D was originally done, a MFG sets a certain standard... BUT while that is all fine and dandy, sometimes technology becomes outdated and inferior to what was "the jazz" in 1996 (in my case)
so yes, i would actually like to do a flow/pressure/efficiency test, BUT, i have not the time and @. it really doesnt matter because i have (been working on it, few gremlins left) plenty of other things that are going to be a detriment to my motor more-so than a filter... like headgaskets that keep on spitting them selves back out at me, haha
I want to know what you think of the 0-30 oil?!?! I run Castrol Syntec 5-50 in my SR and I love it. Stands up to the heat well. I like to drive it pretty hard in the back roads. Do you have and oil pressure gauge in you car, one that reads in psi??? I notice no pressure drop with oil filter size but oil with different oil weight. With 5-50 in it at idle with the oil temp at 200degrees i have about 14-15 psi. with 5-30 in it my pressure at 200 degrees is down to 9-10 psi. I want to know what happens with 0-30. Less then 10psi starts to scare me. Spec on an SR is 9-11 though.
LB.Motoring
10-09-2006, 10:19 PM
never found anything wrong with
http://www.suprasport.com/assets/images/KEY/knoilfilter.jpeg
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