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i was searching though ebay and apparently ss autochrome makes suspension parts for 240s now. they have a package which you can get for under $200 does anyone know what the quality of these part are and has anyone ever bought suspension parts fromm ss autochrome? what do you guys think. (PICS)
kit includes
traction rods (set)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/zx88/aaaa10254.jpg
s13 rear camber arms
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/zx88/aaaa10255.jpg
s13 tension rods
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/zx88/aaaa10256.jpg
s13 rear control rods
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/zx88/aaaa10257.jpg
and thier diagram
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/zx88/aaaa10258.jpg
420sx
10-02-2006, 06:14 PM
u mean FSM nissan diagram? lol.... those spherical's is what costs so much. im sceptical when it comes to ssac stuff
Vatche
10-02-2006, 06:20 PM
i would never buy anything from these assholes. even if they make it so tempting to buy and so cheap. do u want to trust them with anything? u could be driving one day and end up dieing cuz of these bastards.
DoriftoPnoy
10-02-2006, 06:25 PM
haha ss autochrome.... i hear so much bad shit about them. personally i've never bought anything from em but i wouldn't want to waste my money when so many have already wasted theirs. Why don't you buy a set and let us know :)
HKSdrift3r
10-02-2006, 06:34 PM
i have had their exhaust for over 9 months.. it sounds just as good as it did brand new. It fit pretty damn perfect and has held through the winter without rust. Welds were great too. If i were you, i'd jump on it!
Exhaust vs suspension arms are two different things, if a suspension arm craps out, then your not as screwed as say a hanger breaking on your exhaust. Id wait for a few guinea pigs to try it out first
ThatGuy
10-02-2006, 06:39 PM
Eidt: What he said^
Big difference between an exhaust and the components that keep you chassis attached your wheels and on the road.
Slidin240Wayz
10-02-2006, 06:40 PM
I will have a nice reponse to this question when I get home to my pictures.
Lemme ask you a couple of things.
Do you like receiving brand new rusted parts?
Do you like living?
Are you a sub-par person?
Can you save money?
Do you want children in your lifetime?
Get the point. Save up, buy SPL and enjoy a worry-free suspension. It's really not worth. I'll post pics later.
Carlos
chmercer
10-02-2006, 06:42 PM
that shit has been on the market for like a year
+1 to the brand new rusted parts, i have seen that
dont buy these
HKSdrift3r
10-02-2006, 06:43 PM
What would crap out on their suspension components? That material they use looks pretty damn beefy to me and like I said before, their welds have increased in quality substantially. Let him be the first guinea pig. :)
ThatGuy
10-02-2006, 06:45 PM
^Hahaha, you claim their quality is good, but offer up someone else to test them.
CONTRADICTION!!!!!!
HKSdrift3r
10-02-2006, 06:49 PM
contradiction because I have no need to upgrade my suspension! Im all up for trying out their turbo mani's though!
slow92_s13
10-02-2006, 07:06 PM
its funny everybody hates em'...my friend has a 650hp ca18 with their top mount manifold and their intercooler and its all held up. I've heard good things about those suspension parts too.
Slidin240Wayz
10-02-2006, 07:20 PM
Honestly, please stop comparing apples to oranges. Apples to apples, these are fuckin rotten as hell. Judge a book by its contents NOT by its cover. Their wall thickness is like .149 inches. When you bang them together, you get a higher note than the 3 tenors. I was peeking at the bottom of their toe rod and I saw a spec of light = bad welds. I will be sending them a nice long email describing my experience with these parts.
Carlos
mrmephistopheles
10-02-2006, 07:20 PM
In case nobody knew, Motoria is a Korean company.
http://www.motoria.co.kr/
lillaozboi
10-02-2006, 07:28 PM
"think i'll let you ride in a hyundai"
- Han [ FnF - Tokyo Drift ]
HyperTek
10-02-2006, 07:29 PM
isnt that the same picture that splparts uses?? i know its from teh FSM, but they had teh parts labeled like that too didnt they?
Save up some more and get Bings
http://bings.ca/
Support Canada!!
lord_hypnos
10-02-2006, 07:30 PM
I'm all for the turbo manifold or the exhaust or that kind of stuff. But fucking suspension pieces? I'd like to live thanks.
Slidin240Wayz
10-02-2006, 07:40 PM
I'm all for the turbo manifold or the exhaust or that kind of stuff. But fucking suspension pieces? I'd like to live thanks.
Thanks for playing. You have won!!!
My only other consideration for suspension arms would be powertrix.
I have the TC rods- held up superb and can knock you out cold. Plus they protect their joints.
Carlos
HyperTek
10-02-2006, 07:43 PM
i wonder how TC sportline would fare up to these
Adikt
10-02-2006, 07:45 PM
I bought the SSAC suspension kit towards the end of June. I've daily driven it along with 2 drift events. Then I went to a drift event yesterday and was comin around the bank noticed something wasn't right. Pulled back in the pit and took a look.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/Drifting%20pics/SSautochromeshit1.jpg
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k72/Nackers240sx/Drifting%20pics/SSautochromeshit2.jpg
Adikt
10-02-2006, 07:46 PM
If you're cheap and you have a death wish buy them.
BTW in the whole time I had them I've driven about 2k miles on them and never hit anything
HyperTek
10-02-2006, 07:59 PM
you should try contacting them so they can improve thier product or bitch at em to replace it.. but they might try to say "not for racing application or you probably hit something"
Looks like thier arm cant stand binding.. maybe thats what happened..
yeah so im going to say fuck it after seeing that pic.
Adikt
10-02-2006, 08:20 PM
I don't think it was binding. I greased up the balljoint before I put it on and when I checked yesterday it still moved very easily.
aznpoopy
10-02-2006, 08:23 PM
you should try contacting them so they can improve thier product or bitch at em to replace it.. but they might try to say "not for racing application or you probably hit something"
Looks like thier arm cant stand binding.. maybe thats what happened..
binding does make things break. but the joint is clearly not frozen (or even remotely rusty) in that picture. bind can also be caused by contact... but just looking at the picture, i don't see anything that the rear traction arm could possibly hit.
stuff tends to break where it is weakest. you'd think the weak section would be the threaded section or along a weld. but i guess the arm itself is the weak link? scary.
undesiredshoe
10-02-2006, 08:28 PM
i bought a damn nismo copy shift knob off ebay and now i have carpal tunnel syndrome....never would have happened if i had just bought the real nismo shift knob
ryan hagen
10-02-2006, 09:22 PM
i ve had a ssac t25/ka24de turbo mani and had it glowing red many times no problems, alot of people bitch about ssac from a couple years ago still, but motoria makes some cheap stuff, my friend has one of their exahusts.
every one has their own bad story or their friends bad story, or their friends friends bad story. the motoria shit looks really bad though, that arm being so thin if it got dented at all the dent would probally cause a weak point for all the stress to go into till it broke
SPL parts isnt much better, i got their bumpsteer eliminator tierod ends, i had to run a die over them cause they cut the threads and then chromed them. what a pain, the crome turned into little sharp needle like things and then the threads rusted right away, shit will have to come off with a torch someday if it comes off at all, their owner said he didnt know what i was tlaking about and hadnt ever had that probelm before, it was a several week wait for them(back order) then finding the right die and ordering it sucked as well. there were no directions or diagram, and it came with 6 things that i couldnt tell if they were spacers, cones, or some kinda dampening weights. couldnt figure out how or where they went, but its all together, i dont recomend SPL links/arms although the brake deflectors are cool, i like my couple kazama peices the most, and the heim joint is perfect after 3 1/2 years.
other bad stuff, older power trix arms, all mine have bad heim joints after 1 1/2 years and 10k miles, they rusted and squeeked so i blube them but they are all bound up now
Slidin240Wayz
10-02-2006, 10:31 PM
Crazy to hear about the tie rod ends. I hope Kuah will take this into consideration. I mentioned the new powertrix arms because the heim joints are protected now. Sellers, please take this stuff to heart.
Here are the pics I promised. I did not want what happened to adikt happen to me.
Hellloooooooo rust
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Working%20on%20Cars/DSC03937.jpg
After I cut that ish open
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Working%20on%20Cars/DSC03947.jpg
Here is how UNSAFE the walls are
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Working%20on%20Cars/DSC03941.jpg
And take a look at the inside
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Working%20on%20Cars/DSC03960.jpg
I have an extra powertrix TC rod that I will cut open as well to compare.
People, please take this as a sincere warning. Purchase safe automotive aftermarket performance parts for your car and have them installed correctly the first time.
Now what vendor wants to hook me up with some suspension arms?!?!? I need my car up and running in less than 2 weeks.
Wishing you all the best,
Carlos Doria
McRussellPants
10-02-2006, 10:57 PM
Crazy to hear about the tie rod ends. I hope Kuah will take this into consideration.
He already does, every in-house link he sends out he has Corey run a tap over before it ships.
I done seen it with my own eyes.
SPL bumpsteer hate
Kuah has had numerous problems with the tie rod ends, so has everyone else, Kazama's outters bend the aluminum buckles and the rod bearing dies hella quick.
Kuah has gone out of their way to make it cheap to upgrade to the Version 3 outters. Which have yet to have problems. Call him agian or find the thread on here about how to get the V3 shanks.
lol, about no instructions, theres an installed picture on the SPL site.
Moving on, :bite: at the Motoria Link, .134 wall thickness, hahahah, gotta make it thin so that you can use less melted spoons to ERW into tube.
projectRDM
10-02-2006, 11:16 PM
I love posts where people are surprised to see a product that's been on the market for over two years.
As for the quality, the rod ends they use do bind easily, I've seen a few sets like that, it's the cause for the majority of damaged parts. Poor design and lack of a grease fitting were the problems on their first batch, the newer stuff is now servicable but still lack dust boots. There's just no way they'll last in the environment they're designed for.
wangan_cruiser
10-03-2006, 12:01 AM
that thing is fckn scary.....i cant afford to loose my whole car because of that kind of part...
Slidin240Wayz
10-03-2006, 07:24 AM
We have another winner...YAY!!!
Carlos
j00ni3
10-03-2006, 08:02 AM
just use OEM FTW!!!!!! haha...
SPL parts isnt much better, i got their bumpsteer eliminator tierod ends, i had to run a die over them cause they cut the threads and then chromed them. what a pain, the crome turned into little sharp needle like things and then the threads rusted right away, shit will have to come off with a torch someday if it comes off at all, their owner said he didnt know what i was tlaking about and hadnt ever had that probelm before, it was a several week wait for them(back order) then finding the right die and ordering it sucked as well. there were no directions or diagram, and it came with 6 things that i couldnt tell if they were spacers, cones, or some kinda dampening weights. couldnt figure out how or where they went, but its all together, i dont recomend SPL links/arms although the brake deflectors are cool, i like my couple kazama peices the most, and the heim joint is perfect after 3 1/2 years.
Sorry about the lack of printed instructions, we post all our instructions on the website and would have directed you to them if you called or emailed us:
http://www.splparts.com/doc/SPLTieRodEnd/default.htm
We have had issues with the plating on the tie rod end shanks, the plating shop put an excessive thickness of plating on the threads. We had not checked the threads but after we received the first complaint about them, we emailed everyone about the problem and sent out replacements to all customers who asked for them. We went through and checked our whole batch, and fixed those that had to be re-tapped.
As for the rust that is somewhat unavoidable due to the crimped metal locking nuts we use, those nuts will always shave off the plating when they are installed. However our shanks and nuts are intended to be only installed once (like some OEM hardware), we offer replacements for a very low cost if you ever need to remove them and re-install.
drew300zx
10-03-2006, 03:57 PM
i have the rear camber arms and toe arms on my s14, it sits on 350z 18" wheels with eibach springs, i use it as a daily drive and had them on for about a year now and almost 20k miles and they look almost brand new and i have not had a problem with them, i would buy them agian
sw20>>s14
10-03-2006, 05:09 PM
i wouldnt trust their multi link with my life...
on the other hand, i have been praising their strut bars ever since i got mine...excellent OS style design and beautiful welding...pretty damn beefy and rigid for $4X.00 a pc...no play and no preload BS...
thats the ONLY susp component id run from them and strut bars arent even susp...its chassis bracing...and even then, thats the closest ill get to susp components when dealing with ssac...
silnismo
12-14-2006, 09:54 PM
any update on those powertrix tension rodS???
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