View Full Version : What Brakes do You Use?
carnagexxxx
09-27-2006, 11:46 PM
I was wondering what types of brakes everyone here uses? I have a 93 S13 and am looking into a few different brake upgrades. Also please list whether or not you changed both the front and rear calipers.
'90RPS13
09-27-2006, 11:50 PM
I got some J30 Front Brakes and I can hook you up with them. *a
!Zar!
09-27-2006, 11:51 PM
Well, at least you arn't begging for more power...
Just search around for z32 brakes.
I'll leave the flaming to someone else.
DriftKouki
09-27-2006, 11:57 PM
Hawk brake pads with Brembo rotors.
carnagexxxx
09-27-2006, 11:59 PM
HAHA, although I do have some plans for power I have priorities which are brakes and an LSD. Anywho...
I have been looking into the z32 brakes but I have been wondering if it is worth the hassel of replacing the rear calipers. My idea was to do the fronts with z32 calipers, brembo rotors, and decent pads. I would then upgrade the rear rotors and pads. Is it a bad idea to neglect the rear calipers?
chmercer
09-28-2006, 12:05 AM
you will probably be better off doing braided lines, new blank rotors, performance pads, fresh fluid on stock hardware.
drift freaq
09-28-2006, 12:06 AM
well some of use do the rear calipers to go for a completely balanced setup. Which means we also usually upgrade our brake master cylinder to a Z32 one.
NemeGuero
09-28-2006, 12:31 AM
I got full Q45s w/ Z32 e-brake
j00ni3
09-28-2006, 12:38 AM
my first s14 zenki was an auto ( now converted to 5spd) so the master cylinder was good,, so i put in the z32 fronts with hawk pads, project mu scr pro rotors, with braided lines...with valvoline syn power brake fluid, ( mainly because the wet boiling point was decent and the brake fluid wasn't on the really expensive side) i mean yea more load will be on the front but it stops like a beast.. after they were bedded in ... all i can say is im not scared anymore.
drew935
09-28-2006, 12:49 AM
I have just stock for now and will be installing z32front calipers with slotted brembo rotors, braided lines all around, and z32 mc some time next month. Not sure which pads I will be using. For the rear, most likely stock for now. Maybe a larger rotor with bracket from spl or somewhere, I can't remember right now.
TokyoNights
09-28-2006, 12:57 AM
I run super blue fluid, braided lines, brembo blanks, hawk pads, and reman rear calipers.
I never saw the need for bigger brakes
unless youre into some heavy road race shit
RightWheelDrive
09-28-2006, 01:08 AM
Full Z32 brake system. They feel really good. I was only using 50-60% power to match the braking of other people during track day. It makes the car much more fun to drive on the street as well.
sw20>>s14
09-28-2006, 02:40 AM
front 30mm z32s with axxis/pbr ultimates and ss lines...oem napa rotors
rear 240sx with axxis/pbr ultimates and ss lines...oem napa rotors
super blue brake fluid
stock manual m/c
and 225/45/17 FK451s up front
brakes very solid and linear...can lock them up all day, but predictable enough not to at very high speeds...held up at the track with no problems...during the end of the day, they started fading ever so little...
sw20>>s14
09-28-2006, 02:41 AM
front 30mm z32s with axxis/pbr ultimates and ss lines...oem napa rotors
rear 240sx with axxis/pbr ultimates and ss lines...oem napa rotors
super blue brake fluid
stock manual m/c
and 225/45/17 FK451s up front
brakes very solid and linear...can lock them up all day, but predictable enough not to at very high speeds...held up at the track with no problems...during the end of the day, they started fading ever so little...well worth the money if you plan on doing any sort of road racing or hard driving...and its no hassle what so ever...makes changing brake pads super fast...
ZenkiSilvia
09-28-2006, 02:46 AM
I'm running Stock Brembo Vented rotors all around with Hawk HPS plus pads with new front calipers (stock). Brakes decently. Brake fade is much better than stock. I also have stainless steel teflon coated lines with Super Blue Fluid. The brakes take longer to warm up but that's expect with good pads and fluid.
If you looking for an upgrade I'd go with Sw20>>S14's set up like others do. If you are sticking to 4 lug you might just want to consider new lines and pads. Slotted and Cross Drill aren't neccessary. There is also a wilwood brake upgrade kit on Enjuku which seems to be a good deal. Check it out.
HKsilvia
09-28-2006, 04:20 AM
Rotora 4pot front brake
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/HKsilvia/My%20Car/f52f6feb.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c322/HKsilvia/My%20Car/DSCF0493.jpg
pretty good already with street performance pads, however it got some knockback issue that took me sometimes to get used to. for rear brake im using the S15 rear brake, which i think is the same as stock
carnagexxxx
09-28-2006, 11:04 AM
I had been wondering if the brake master cylinder on a '93 s13 was different than a '95 S14. My friend who has an S14 with z32 brakes (stock bmc) says that he does not have any of the "slop" in his pedal feel as has been reported in the swap faq's that I have read. Here is what i might do...
Front:
Z32 calipers
Brembo slotted and drilled rotors
Stainless lines
Hawk Pads
Brake Fluid TBD (any suggestions?)
Rear:
Stock calipers
Brembo slotted and drilled rotors
Stainless lines
Hawk pads
kingsol
09-28-2006, 11:13 AM
if you guys track, go z32 all around with sticky tires; if you drift/daily, just do pads, rotors, lines.
my setup:
Z32 front and rear
project mu/endless all around
lines
1 1/16 mc
super blue/motul
brembo blanks
I love my setup--balanced, steady, reponsive, and unfading. I just want better rotors because I'm getting heavy rainbowing front and rear... any suggestions?
FinalDrive
09-28-2006, 11:15 AM
front:
z33 track edition brembos
oem rotors, pads
stainless lines
rear:
stock as hell
the pedal feels like crap with the s14 master cylinder
i'm doing z32 rears w/ z32 master cylinder and good fluid later on
MadScientist
09-28-2006, 11:29 AM
Brakes:
OE S14 Front 5-Lug Hubs
OE R32 Front Sumitumo Calipers
OE R32 Front Drilled Rotors
OE Z32 1 1/16 Master Cylinder
OE Z32 Brake Booster (Painted Gold)
OE Z32 Rear 5-Lug Hubs
OE Z32 Rear Calipers (Re-powdercoated Gloss Black)
OE Z32 Rear Drums w/ E-brake Cables
Brembo Z32 Slotted Rear Rotors
StopTech Z32 Stainless Brake Lines
EBC Red Stuff Brake Pads
Motul 600 Racing Brake Fluid
Cusco Brake Cylinder Stopper
Knowing what I know now... I would have not purchased this New and would have spent the money on a Rotora Kit instead. I have only had one Issue so far and its mainly pedal feel.... before w/ the stock brakes the pedal wass very stiff and reacted at the top... now the pedal feel like my GFs Honda and is very soft. I highly suggest the Cusco BCS if you do the Z32 Booster!!
I am at my wits end on the brakes right now so I will probably have Nissan look at it.
Peace
Drew
kingsol
09-28-2006, 11:36 AM
Brakes:
OE S14 Front 5-Lug Hubs
OE R32 Front Sumitumo Calipers
OE R32 Front Drilled Rotors
OE Z32 1 1/16 Master Cylinder
OE Z32 Brake Booster (Painted Gold)
OE Z32 Rear 5-Lug Hubs
OE Z32 Rear Calipers (Re-powdercoated Gloss Black)
OE Z32 Rear Drums w/ E-brake Cables
Brembo Z32 Slotted Rear Rotors
StopTech Z32 Stainless Brake Lines
EBC Red Stuff Brake Pads
Motul 600 Racing Brake Fluid
Cusco Brake Cylinder Stopper
Knowing what I know now... I would have not purchased this New and would have spent the money on a Rotora Kit instead. I have only had one Issue so far and its mainly pedal feel.... before w/ the stock brakes the pedal wass very stiff and reacted at the top... now the pedal feel like my GFs Honda and is very soft. I highly suggest the Cusco BCS if you do the Z32 Booster!!
I am at my wits end on the brakes right now so I will probably have Nissan look at it.
Peace
Drew
seems like we have a similar setup, so a few questions:
do you get the rainbowing too?
why did you do the booster?
And why would you have went with rotora?
n2motorsports
09-28-2006, 02:51 PM
i'd recommend upgrading to 180sx brakes, good bang for the buck. They have a larger single piston and the surface area is larger vs stock, which will dissapate heat much better. for my last setup, i had stock 180sx brakes with stock pads and did 2 grip events. it only faded towards the end of the day when I was feeling very comfortable with the track and braking harder and later into turns. If you're doing heavy track days, just upgrade the pads front and rear and call it a day.
check out the pic, from left; stock s13, 180sx, Z32, you can see that the rotors on the 180sx is very similar in size and their associated calipers on top.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c140/n2motorsports/rotors.jpg
OptionZero
09-28-2006, 05:05 PM
Q45 front
stock s14 rear
brembo blank
SS lines
porterfield r4-s
collecting parts for the SPL 350Z front rotor kit and z32 rears.
nlzmo400r
09-28-2006, 05:44 PM
I do as many HPDE events as possible. I run the following:
Front-
Sti Brembo 4pot Calipers
Evo drilled/slotted rotors
Ferodo ds2500 brake pads
Stainless lines
Rear-
Sti Brembo 2pot Calipers
Evo drilled/slotted rotors
Ferodo ds2500 pads
Stainless lines
I run these on 255/40/17 azenis RT615s. Absolutely love the stopping power and fade resistance. Never any fade, even braking from 110mph over and over on loal 1.8mile course
kingsol
09-28-2006, 06:38 PM
^ are you on stock m/c?
brainfood
09-28-2006, 07:24 PM
z32 na 26mm alum. fronts, porterfield r4s pads stock rotors
stock rears with axxis ultimate pads and rotora drilled/slotted rotors
z32 master cylinder, braided stainless steel lines and ate super blue fluid
Work great, good balance, great pedal feel, super easy to balance wieght transfer and rotate the car on the brakes, good braking distance. Wouldnt change them for anything else I have no complaints. Cant tell you about fade since I dont do much road racing and usually slow down sideways anyways :) but as far as canyon driving and drifting even bigger tracks no problems with fade. A good balanced brake system is better than a huge show system. with the 225's I run up front I dont think I would decrease stoping distance much more with a bigger brake system and if I was worried about fade I would upgrade the front rotors.
MadScientist
09-28-2006, 07:26 PM
seems like we have a similar setup, so a few questions:
do you get the rainbowing too?
why did you do the booster?
And why would you have went with rotora?
Rainbowing?? you lost me...?!?
Booster was suggested after I did the full install and the pedal was super weak... Consider I have a Base S14 w/ Auto Trans. so the booster is smaller that the SE Manual... from what I have seen and heard. BTW... the Z32 Booster is a f-ing Bitch to get in... and you would be better off pulling the dash so you can get to the pedal bolt easier.... trust me its easier to pull the dash then working upside-down under the dash.
Rotora, Stop-Tech, Brembo, Grex, Endless, etc... just ment I would have went with a bigger set-up. Interested in the factory Big Brake kits also like the Skyline, EVO, or STi Brembos... I really like the Porscha "Big Red" Brembo.
Peace
Drew
Slidin240Wayz
09-28-2006, 08:15 PM
I never went under the dash to change my BMC...
Carlos
Rittmeister
09-28-2006, 08:30 PM
Front -
11" rotors, Wilwood 4-piston calipers (Fastbrakes kit)
Stainless lines
Hawk Street pads
JUST installed this stuff. I'll use more aggressive pads for track.
Rear:
STOCK S13 baby! Axxis Ultimate pads.
I plan to upgrade to rear stainless lines and better pads, and do a full flush to better fluid, yet to be decided.
redsuns3838
09-28-2006, 08:56 PM
im on Z brakes front, and stock S14 rear. id like to upgrade to Z rear but i dont know if its really necessary at this point. i use regular pads for daily driving. just to reduce brake dust, but theyre running low, thinking of upgrading to hawk or project mu or something..
I also have a 98 auto MC for non-abs waiting ot be installed, should firm up the pedal a bit but not too much. perfect for Z fronts/stock rears.
if your not running ur car on the track or making big HP numbers, id stay away from anything too big. ie Z33 brakes, skyline brakes, etc, just cuz theyre not worht the money for what ur using em for.
daily, like ppl said. new pads/rotors/lines. or go to autozone and get remanufactured Z32 brakes. i like my Zs, good compromise between stock and big brakes.
whatever u get, just get stuff thats produced stateside, incase u need it rebuilt. - main reson i didnt go with skyline GTST brakes.
OptionZero
09-28-2006, 09:45 PM
for an S-chassis, the best combos for brake bias is:
3Z front/Q45, s14 stock rear
or
350Z rotor w/ 3Z caliper, 3Z rear
and of course the MC
thats from sykikchimp formerly mod here and asad on FA.
But before someone says it...this is only for people who actually care about going fast, if you're just doing the brakes for show, or street, or street cred, then it's just a waste of money, blah blah blah. There, i saved people the trouble of pointing it out.
also the auto has a physically bigger brake booster IIRC from talkin to orion::s14
oh yeah, if you want to actually stop faster...get better tires
carnagexxxx
10-02-2006, 12:04 PM
This may be a dumb question, but are r32 calipers the same as 300zx calipers?
LB.Motoring
10-02-2006, 12:18 PM
This may be a dumb question, but are r32 calipers the same as 300zx calipers?
Actually, they are similar, but no.
I believe the R32 are like a 32mm? and a Zx are like 30mm if im not mistaken.
The rear are the same.
anyways... brakes I use? pshhh what brakes :keke:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/vinhnumber5989/dasfsdfsdf.jpg
Slidin240Wayz
10-02-2006, 12:34 PM
Wow, a lead foot...TATTOO.. a little over the top for me.
Carlos
g6civcx
10-02-2006, 12:40 PM
S13
Front caliper - JDM 180SX, 95 Maxima
Front discs - Brembo blanks, 95 Altima
Front pads - Hawk HPS, 95 Maxima
MC - stock
Rear caliper - stock
Rear discs - Brembo blanks, stock
Rear pads - Hawk HPS, stock
All lines stock.
LookOut Nick
10-02-2006, 01:44 PM
300zx TT non abs MC
Front
R32 Calipers & Rotors
Axxis Pads
Pdm-Racing Conversion Lines
Rear
S14 Rotors
Stock S13 Calipers
Wenever Pads
MOUNTAINGARAGE
10-02-2006, 02:36 PM
I have found that utilizing brake pad/fluid technology and proper tire compound you can achieve track performance with a fraction of the cost.
Stock calipers/rotors
Cobalt Friction Spec C pads front/rear
Stainless lines
Castrol brake fluid
brembo blanks are almost half of the price of slotted/drilled
with good pads you won't know the difference
I prefer initial grab over fade resistance.
just My .02 worth :D
upSLIDEdown
10-02-2006, 02:54 PM
300zx F/R
Metal Master Pads F/R
Stainless Lines F/R
Slotted Brembo Rotors F/R
300zx 15/16 BMC
Ate Super Blue Fluid
EFFING AWESOME! My brakes are one thing I would not trade for the world! Plan on going to Hawk HPS Pads and HP+ pads for the track.
Slidin240Wayz
10-02-2006, 03:06 PM
I did not think the 300zx BMC came in a 15/16?!?!?
Carlos
upSLIDEdown
10-02-2006, 04:55 PM
I did not think the 300zx BMC came in a 15/16?!?!?
Carlos
Maybe it doesn't, maybe I lied...
Maybe it's 1"... I'm not sure to tell you the truth.
upSLIDEdown
10-02-2006, 05:01 PM
Maybe it doesn't, maybe I lied...
Maybe it's 1"... I'm not sure to tell you the truth.
DAMN YOU FOR MAKING ME DOUBT MY ENDLESS S-CHASSIS KNOWLEDGE!;) I just went and checked, it's 15/16". Thought so. They come in 3 sizes, 15/16", 16/16" (1"), and 17/16" (1 1/16"). I like my setup. The larger BMCs seem to give more of an "on/off" feel. The smaller one gives better braking feedback. I absolutely love my setup. Also, for reference, my car is a manual S13 base model (reference for booster size, using the stock S13 booster)... and my brakes are 30mm Aluminum, dunno if I mentioned that up there.
kandyflip445
10-02-2006, 05:14 PM
wait....you just quoted yourself to yell at....yourself??? :wtf:
EchoOfSilence
10-02-2006, 05:20 PM
DAMN YOU FOR MAKING ME DOUBT MY ENDLESS S-CHASSIS KNOWLEDGE!;) I just went and checked, it's 15/16". Thought so. They come in 3 sizes, 15/16", 16/16" (1"), and 17/16" (1 1/16"). I like my setup. The larger BMCs seem to give more of an "on/off" feel. The smaller one gives better braking feedback. I absolutely love my setup. Also, for reference, my car is a manual S13 base model (reference for booster size, using the stock S13 booster)... and my brakes are 30mm Aluminum, dunno if I mentioned that up there.
I have a 15/16" BMC but it's from a 280zx..... I hope the knee point is in the right place :x:
upSLIDEdown
10-02-2006, 05:20 PM
wait....you just quoted yourself to yell at....yourself??? :wtf:
Yeah, that was my other personality... :duh: No genius, read the 2 posts above that... ;)
motonagam
10-02-2006, 05:49 PM
I run Q45 fronts, stock S14 rears with Carbotech Bobcat pads, SPL SS lines, OE rotors, and ATE Super Blue fluid. I did a track event with TCRA at Willow Springs Raceway couple weeks ago, and it felt nice! But I think I'm going to try the Carbotech XP8s or 9s next time, and see how those pads are.
AceInHole
10-02-2006, 05:54 PM
Q45 brakes front and rear, currently running random pads, z32 17/16" MC. Decent balance, pedal is too stiff atm. Swapping to AL z32 30mm calipers for weight.
Slidin240Wayz
10-02-2006, 05:57 PM
I know the 240 comes with 15/16 and 1 inch. I thought the 90+300zx came in 1 inch and 17/16ths only.
Carlos
Bay_Area_sr20det
10-02-2006, 10:45 PM
im rockin stock size rotors. just bought new ones for $11 each and some kevlar pads. im gona replase them with q45 brakes or whatever thare off of.
EchoOfSilence
10-03-2006, 01:00 AM
im rockin stock size rotors. just bought new ones for $11 each and some kevlar pads. im gona replase them with q45 brakes or whatever thare off of.
where in santa cruz are you dude? we should chill bro
upSLIDEdown
10-03-2006, 08:49 AM
I know the 240 comes with 15/16 and 1 inch. I thought the 90+300zx came in 1 inch and 17/16ths only.
Carlos
That's what I'm saying. 300zx BMC's came in all 3 sizes. Mine is a 15/16" and it's a Z BMC, not an S13 BMC.
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