civic SI

[project_240]

yeah...he beat me stock for stock...but maybe its because i have an auto, kit, and rims...hmm....you think my recently added injen CAI will be enough to get him or do i have to do something else...

oh, and my other friend with a v6 accord thinks hes faster too. can i prove him wrong or no...

i know it has a lot to do with the driver too...but you know...just wondering...we talk mess all the time...haha

[SR20Fastback]

Old Civic Si, should be a cake walk.
Newer 02 Si Should be pretty good, but since you have an auto....well yeah..
V6 Accord should take you, at least the new ones 98+

[uuninja]

Sorry but you will lose to both.

[240meowth]

sorry to say, but u must remember, civic si's vtec help it stay @ it's peak power longer, and although it has less torque, it will run 0-60 in 6's compaired to the best of the 240, 91, who runs 7.9

although it looks like the 240's faster on paper (DOHC 155hp, 160tq vs 160hp 120tq or so) but the RWD causes us to lose power.  240 is a handels car... not exactly the best drag racer

and remember, grasshopper, the 240 has potential, but it's a POS stock

[DuffMan]

Which year Civic Si was it. The 99-00 are pretty quick. Having an auto will really make you suffer in a drag race.

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (240meowth @ July 01 2002,05:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the 240 has potential, but it's a POS stock</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Speak for your self &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> Granted that my gramps in his walker could pull on my 91 in a straight line.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/butbut.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':but:'> But.....

I and several other board members have rolled Type r's, C5's and other much faster cars, on track. Bone stock on M+S all season tires no less. I am not saying that the 240 is a faster better handeling car than those stock or otherwise, but it can deffinately hold it's own when pushed.

BTW shouldn't you be asleep by now? It is noon here in Sweden that would make it like 3am in Calli. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':zzz:'>

[silviasichigo]

Have I mentiones that I have never lost to a civic,prelude,integra (well almost lost to darren A.K.A. Rut) I never will unless it is a B18 on a tube frame and a fiberglass shell and powered by at least $20,000 worth of equipment. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> I just thought I would throw that in there. hehe!

[TheTimanator]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (silviasichigo @ July 02 2002,06:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Have I mentiones that I have never lost to a civic,prelude,integra (well almost lost to darren A.K.A. Rut) I never will unless it is a B18 on a tube frame and a fiberglass shell and powered by at least $20,000 worth of equipment. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> I just thought I would throw that in there. hehe!</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Well I guess over in Japanland, Honda's aren't as fast. &nbsp;Here, there are tons of honda's running 12's and 11's with full interiors. &nbsp;There are many Unibody hondas running 9's. &nbsp;Well, whatever &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

[boosteds14]

owned-- &nbsp;all i got to say

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ July 01 2002,10:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">owned-- all i got to say</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
vague-- all I got to say. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

[twofortysx]

I barely lost to a Civic with a b18 swap, and then he beat on my ass the next run when he squeezed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

I don't race too often, so it's no big deal. &nbsp;I'm starting to get tired of my 240 (power wise, I love the handling) and can't wait to get my 350z in a couple years.

[adey]

...if that's all ya wanna do... go fast from a traffic light, then the 240sx is not the car you should be driving; it deserves better than you. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> &nbsp;kidding. &nbsp;(sort of...)

honestly though, I have to agree with Meowth in saying that our cars, stock, are pretty shit for drag racing. but then again I'm not into that sort of "racing" ("driving"... "skill"...), so it doesn't matter to me. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (project_240 @ July 02 2002,12:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yeah...he beat me stock for stock...but maybe its because i have an auto, kit, and rims...hmm....you think my recently added injen CAI will be enough to get him or do i have to do something else...

oh, and my other friend with a v6 accord thinks hes faster too. can i prove him wrong or no...

i know it has a lot to do with the driver too...but you know...just wondering...we talk mess all the time...haha</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
not to dis you, but it sounds like hanging with the honda boys has given you a slightly riced perspective....

Main reasons you lost:
- auto tranny (ick, I have 1 too, so I feel your pain)
- body kit (does nothing for you but make you slower - weight)
- rims (same as the body kit, if you got anything bigger than 16's, they're working against you, unless you have lightweight advans or something)

CAI, it helps, but it's not going to be a deciding factor, think maybe 2-3 HP max. &nbsp;An intake alone isn't going to do much (well, it makes the car sound growlier I guess)

Meowth is on the $ about the vtec, it does actually do something <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;tho not nearly as much as the honda people would like you to believe.

Our cars aren't mean for the strip. &nbsp;Any tool can go fast in a straight line. &nbsp;Our cars are about the handling. &nbsp;I'm the first to admit that a civic SI would most likely spank me in a drag, street or otherwise; but I WILL spank him anywhere turns are involved. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;Not to say that our cars CAN'T be made good drag cars, there are quite a few out there, but if you're stock, don't get your hopes up.

[pornallstar]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ July 02 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Any tool can go fast in a straight line.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
But dont you try to take the most straight line in AutoX??
So who in turn is right? &nbsp;Nobody will ever know! &nbsp;Muwhahahahah

[Nismos14]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (pornallstar @ July 01 2002,2:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ July 02 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Any tool can go fast in a straight line.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
But dont you try to take the most straight line in AutoX??
So who in turn is right? Nobody will ever know! Muwhahahahah</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lolz u take the straight line to make the turn in the fastest possible manner and our cars would keep flatter through the turns hence a better track demon :-D

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nismos14 @ July 01 2002,1:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (pornallstar @ July 01 2002,2:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ July 02 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Any tool can go fast in a straight line.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
But dont you try to take the most straight line in AutoX??
So who in turn is right? Nobody will ever know! Muwhahahahah</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
lolz u take the straight line to make the turn in the fastest possible manner and our cars would keep flatter through the turns hence a better track demon :-D</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
HUH! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

Personaly I don't turn at all. I like to drive over as many cones at auto x as I can. Then do a big fat drifting burnout at the end of the lot and return the same way I went, running over the timing equipment as I exit the track <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':rolleyes:'>

Just another way I try to reach out to people. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/inlove.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':love:'>

[HippoSleek]

hmmm...

1. &nbsp;I can show you guys more than a few Civics that will take you in the twisties and a straight line. &nbsp;

2. &nbsp;Our cars are perfectly suited to drag race (RWD is a benefit when you have enough hp that traction is more imporant than parasitic drivetrain loss).

3. &nbsp;If you kept up w/ a Civic w/ a b18 swap, he didn't know how to drive. &nbsp;Two weeks ago at a track w/ turns, I had a lesser skilled driver in a b18 hatch. &nbsp;I'd lay back through the turns, then make a run at him in the last turn b/f the passing zone. &nbsp;I'd fly up onto his bumper w/ my superior exit speed... and then he'd walk away down the straight. &nbsp;(thankfully, he let me pass in the next available area, knowing it isn't about drag racing the straights on a road course <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':cool:'> )

4. &nbsp;What Yoshi and Timmy said. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[negular]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
Personaly I don't turn at all. I like to drive over as many cones at auto x as I can. Then do a big fat drifting burnout at the end of the lot and return the same way I went, running over the timing equipment as I exit the track </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

sounds like fun!

[project_240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ July 02 2002,11:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">...if that's all ya wanna do... go fast from a traffic light, then the 240sx is not the car you should be driving; it deserves better than you. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'> kidding. (sort of...)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i am not just someone who uses it to go straight. try living in a city with nothing but wide flat straight roads and try having some friends driving along those streets and asking you to give em a run.

simple question...i wanted a simple answer...dont give me none of that now...

[project_240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ July 02 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">not to dis you, but it sounds like hanging with the honda boys has given you a slightly riced perspective....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
riced perspective? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> &nbsp;you should take a look at my car...and i would like you to call it rice to my face. i have gotten nothing but compliments on the way my car looks.

i am not one of those people who enjoy fart exhausts and altezza lights and wild ass body kits.

for your info i have a nismo kit and racing harts. open your eyes, man...a body kit adds weight but yet it makes the 240 a beauty, personally because i think that a 95 can use some work on looks...looks arent everything, after all, you drive your car and thats the real enjoyment...but why do some of the fastest cars look so good?

i put nothing but name brands on my car...that is anything but rice. now i just wanted peoples opinions on the SI. i did not want people dissing me about straight line and rice crap so...

[MikeFD3S]

just go out n race the guy. If you lose you lose. *shrug* &nbsp;Most likely, the Si will take you

Si's and Integras are actually pretty decent in the twisties with a competent driver. They do a lot better than most FWD cars with the exception of maybe the MP3. Stock vs stock US S14's were never really well known for their speed, and to an extent, their handling was a bit lackluster... correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the s13's handle better than the heavier s14's?

EDIT: &nbsp;IMHO, buying brand name parts for the sake of it being brand name is ricey. &nbsp;A ghetto rigged 50 dollar home depot underbody tray/cold air scoop + K&N Cone probably offers more rwhp than the shiny 150 dollar name brand intake. &nbsp;As far as body kits go...most dont offer any significant increases in downforce. &nbsp;The only positives to getting one would be to have a larger opening for radiator/oil cooler/IC. &nbsp;Most wings dont offer any downforce either...if you're looking for downforce you need diffusers, front spoiler/canards...blah...im more in tune with 'form follows function' so I won't get into it.

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (project_240 @ July 02 2002,12:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ July 02 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">not to dis you, but it sounds like hanging with the honda boys has given you a slightly riced perspective....</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
riced perspective? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':crazy:'> you should take a look at my car...and i would like you to call it rice to my face. i have gotten nothing but compliments on the way my car looks.

i am not one of those people who enjoy fart exhausts and altezza lights and wild ass body kits.

for your info i have a nismo kit and racing harts. open your eyes, man...a body kit adds weight but yet it makes the 240 a beauty, personally because i think that a 95 can use some work on looks...looks arent everything, after all, you drive your car and thats the real enjoyment...but why do some of the fastest cars look so good?

i put nothing but name brands on my car...that is anything but rice. now i just wanted peoples opinions on the SI. i did not want people dissing me about straight line and rice crap so...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
okay first of all... look at the 1st 4 words of the post.

What do we know about you? Only the questions, and what you said in your post... u didn't post a pic of your car, nor any other details of what you've got going... we have you talkin body kits and hondas and newbie status.

Horrible as it is, 90% of the newbies lately (and I'm not using "newbie" as a derrogatory term) are ricers plain and simple. &nbsp;But for most of them, it's not a bad thing... it's just taht they don't know any different. &nbsp;They come here, they learn a little, and the world is a better place for it... so settle down with the defensive outbursts. &nbsp;My comments were based on what I could surmise at the time.

C'mon tho, the body kit thing. &nbsp;It's personal preference, but look around you, and 90% of the people with body kits have done ONLY the body kit, and MAYBE some bolt-ons, that's it. &nbsp;Looks are great, but I think they take a VERY distant second to performance. &nbsp;hell, I'd drive around an AMC Pacer with pride if it was tuned enough to kill Porshes <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;

Mike had some valid points too, just becuase something is name brand doesn't translate to it being good. &nbsp;A while back HKS got a lot of shit for manufacturing a BOV that would fail after even short amounts of regular use. &nbsp;Even the best make mistakes, or have bad designs.

Anywayz, take a pill.
I didn't mean to offend you (hence all those smileyfaces...)... you can't hear tone of voice or see body language on here, so take things with a grain of salt man. &nbsp;We just try to help eachother here, the flamewar thing gets real old REAL quick.

[project_240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ July 02 2002,3:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Anywayz, take a pill.
I didn't mean to offend you (hence all those smileyfaces...)... you can't hear tone of voice or see body language on here, so take things with a grain of salt man. We just try to help eachother here, the flamewar thing gets real old REAL quick.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
taken...and i didnt mean to misunderstand you like that...
i have learned so much from these forums and i always get the answers that i want.
this post...i have gotten the answers that i want, and more...heh...
but yea if you could tell me how to insert a pic through this that is on my hard disk (not linked on the web) i would be more than happy to show you the 240.
i know about the flaming...and i didnt mean to do that...and i equally hate rice as much as most everyone here does.

[Yoshi]

np man.

you cant host an image directly off your hard drive unless your have your system setup to be a webserver. &nbsp;If you want, you can e-mail me your pix and I can throw'em up for ya. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[project_240]

C:\Documents and Settings\Jake\My Documents\My Pictures\mycar.jpg

[240sxtreme]

well, I have a friend with a 99 SI, I have a 92.

Back when all I had was intake, exhaust, and a JWT ecu, he had intake, I would "barely" walk on him. &nbsp;

now, my driving is better, both straight and twisty, and my car has a little bit more mods...and he'll agree without even racing, the 240 owns. &nbsp;I keep bugging him to get an ecu, flywheel and headers...then we'd be just about even in mods...I want an equal race..just to see.

anyways...even if you have intake, I'd put money on the si.

besides the driveshaft issue, we also have a little bit more poundage then the SI.

[tnord]

"and i would like you to call it rice to my face."
-ok toughguy

"for your info i have a nismo kit and racing harts."
-whoop-de-friggin-doo, all this means is that you have too much money or too much debt.

"that is anything but rice"
-your car may not be "rice," but i would call you a carpet queen.

[SilviaDriver]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tnord @ July 03 2002,12:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"and i would like you to call it rice to my face."
-ok toughguy

"for your info i have a nismo kit and racing harts."
-whoop-de-friggin-doo, all this means is that you have too much money or too much debt.

"that is anything but rice"
-your car may not be "rice," but i would call you a carpet queen.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
haha..i juss thought that was funny <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

but anyways..about the Civic Si vs ur 240sx...i got my money on the Si

[Yoshi]

What's a carpet queen?

[DuffMan]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ July 03 2002,01:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's a carpet queen?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Sounds like a good name for a lesbian to me.

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ July 02 2002,02:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What's a carpet queen?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Carpet Queen = Show car. You know the type, prety paint, body kit. May even have a million hp motor, going to waste sitting at some car show on cheesy velvet carpet with mirrors under the wheel wellls.... &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>