how to break in tires for drifting

[overb0ost]

alright well i got a set of 205/50/16 of SS595 Federal tires. Brand spanking new for a drift event and at the end of the day i look at them, still beefy but some chunks here and there and lots of burn marks.

ive heard that these tires don't really chunk and that they give nice smoke. i was wondering if i used them too suddenly and thats why maybe they chunked? i drove on them for about a day or two.

the max psi for the federals are about 44-45psi i beleive.

i pumped them to 40 psi cold.

maybe too high? was wondering if anyone has some positive input on this?

thanks!

[fliprayzin240sx]

Oh shiet.....(gives you a flame suit) Who the fuck breaks in tires??? People warm up tires but breaking it in, come on man. Your tires chunking got more to do with the kind of asphalt you were drifting on. The rougher the asphalt, the more chunkage...

[TougeNinja]

lol sum times i dont even balance my rears, let alone try to break them in.

[DJPimpFlex]

^actually R compound tires do need to be heat cycled before use, or heat cycled for one run, then taken off for 5 days or so. With street tires, no they do not need to be "broken in" or heat cycled at all. You were probably drifting on some rough shit or something.

[Shawn_of_the_Dead]

word...break in should be smoking them for a lap. I would call it a practice lap though...lol

...and that's your break in.

[struka]

it all depends how rough and crappy the aspahalt is, but they will chunk or feather up.
as far as breaking them in, what i do at my first drift lap with new tires is just do a good burn out to get the oil and crap of the outerlayer, i noticed that tires act differently like that.

[overb0ost]

sorry thats what i meant by a break in. like do a burn out or something. or do a good 5-6 grip laps to get them heated up and such.

i'm thinking i was maybe running the wrong psi so tahts why they chunked?

anyone comment on the psi pressure? it was 40psi when cold.

[struka]

might have been a lil too much, u should check ur pressure after few laps cause tires will heat up and more psi in them.
were other peoples tires chunking as well?

[DJPimpFlex]

yea 40 is high, I usually run 34-36, but it all depends on tire, sidewall stifness ect.

[Brian]

I ran a new set of same tire (diff size) all day at the track last weekend.
No chunking, drove them till they blew out.
I do a quick brake stand and thats about it.

[overb0ost]

I ran a new set of same tire (diff size) all day at the track last weekend.
No chunking, drove them till they blew out.
I do a quick brake stand and thats about it.

what tire pressure did you set them at? the rears.

[g6civcx]

The factory coats the tread with a sealant to protect the tyres during transport. Your level of grip will be diminished the first couple of laps until the coating is scrubbed off.

It depends on the manufacturer as well. I'm not sure about your brand, but recently I noticed that Yokohama (my brand of choice) either stopped doing this, or went with a different compound that is less noticeable.

Don't confuse breaking in with heat cycle. R-compound tyres need a lot of heat to work. Heat cycling means to warm the tyre up to temperature (many techniques to this but I won't get into it).

[DJPimpFlex]

^well tires dont really have a break in as far as I know, but R compounds (race rubber) as far as I know are the only tires that you need to do something special to keep them in good shape through out there lifespands.

[Eric240sx1990]

im addicted to the white smoke!!!!

[Brian]

40psi or so.

[Flybert]

SS595's like to chunk when the pressures are high. I like to run them at 36psi when they are hot. I also run low camber out back to get more even wear which gives more even heat across the tire. I use 235/40/17 ss595 with about 300whp with the setting I mentioned and they do not chunk.

If they still manage to chunk, just give them some time to cool off between runs or give them a cool down lap. Constant tire spinning brings the temps up a lot and causes them to chunk.

[LB.Motoring]

^ right up the alley of answers :keke: when you start to "super heat them they will come apart or chunk, yes the surface that you are running on is a major part, but if you keep the heat on a street preformance tire they will come apart in larger peices "chunk"

[Dousan_PG]

i run them around 36 - 40psi hot as well
good tires

break them in by drifting.

[JSpecBnr32]

tires also chunk because you need to let the tire cool off between runs, the hotter your tires get the easier they start to chunk and deteriorate

[marshun]

the asphalt does play a factor, but warming up the tires with a lap or two of hard driving does make a difference

and i use federals too. cheap and pretty good.

[silvia_s14]

You asked how to break in tires. this is how you break in your tires my friend.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5/terribleone_t1/tiredamage.jpg

[DJPimpFlex]

^lol thats how you BREAK tires...hehe

[TipStylez]

These guys know wassup.

http://www.feableweiner.com/jeff/blown_tire_josh_atom.jpg

[sepulchral]

These guys know wassup.

http://www.feableweiner.com/jeff/blown_tire_josh_atom.jpg


ahhh emo kids trying to drift

all their painfull tears causing blurred vision!!

run!!!

[ayuaddict]

pregnant emo kids.

[blackflag_Rms13]

Lol, the emo tires probably just cut themselves :keke:

[TipStylez]

^hahahahahahaha.

But thos are EMO MEN. Not kids

[McRussellPants]

I actually unintentionally heat cycled some tires and I think it helped.

I only got two runs in on them and then threw em in my garage till the next event, next event came around and they lasted a hell of a long time. The track setup was kind of forgiving on tires that day though...

As for paying for it or taking the time to do it legit... Fuck that.

[blackflag_Rms13]

I think TireRack will heat cycle tires for you, for a price... but fuck that TireRack is already overpriced...

[Vatche]

These guys know wassup.

http://www.feableweiner.com/jeff/blown_tire_josh_atom.jpg


haha one pregnant emo kid and popeye.

put about 35psi in them cold, it will heat up and be around what u need i think 40 to start cold might be a lil high...thats my opinion i might be wrong.

[KiDyNomiTe]

lol sum times i dont even balance my rears, let alone try to break them in.
Balancing rears is for suckers if you plan on drifting on them... Takes too much time and money all so you can drive for a day or less...

Just grip a lap, weave in an out a few times, pull ebrake, go fast slam on brakes, whatever creates friction, then do a burnout before first lap. Don't need any fancy heat cycling.

[struka]

^^ unless u can balance for free. hehehe
but i still dont balance. lol

[Nachtmensch]

1. mount tires
2. put wheels on car
3. go drifting
4. admire job well done

[overb0ost]

alright i have a question regarding drifting, even tho its a different topic.

i just looked at the rear of my car and it seems that my swaybar bushings are cracked and compressed like no tomorrow.

just wondering how would that affect my drift? since the bushings are gone, its almost as if i have no sway bar right? if so, does that mean i have more grip in the back?

ive read taht swaybar increases stiffness in the back and many people who have installed their sways said its harder to wipe the tail out with sways. but if sways make the rear stiffer, shouldn't it be easier to wipe the tail out?

if i got poly bushings for the sways, would it help me wipe my tail out better?

thanks!