opinions please?

[SR240DET]

ok guys i would like you opinion... i want my car to be a little faster but.. i wanna start learning how to drift(power sliding for now)... and autoxing and what not.... so suspension is a must... but i also have a dent on my car... it like 7 inches or so around on my front driver side fender... so yeah...  lots of confusion... what would you guys do??

a.suspension
b.dent
or
C.sr (mmmmm turbo)

[pornallstar]

Well do the suspension. Cause if you are learing how to drift and what not you are gonna wreck your car into something in a matter of time. I read in the June (I think) Issue of Super Street about the top drifters in Japan and they said that they use to wreck once a day. So forget the dent and start saving for the SR swap. Hey but what do I know Im a newbie.



PS
And no im not some 15 year old that does not know crap about cars and what not. I am 25 and in the process of opening my own aftermarket shop in Southern Colorado. And let the guy learn how to drift. Remeber Each to his own!!

[kanekz]

I am sorta in the same situation. I have decided to get the SR before suspension though. It sound like you would rather be a drifter so I would recommend the getting a good suspension setup (TEIN,CUSCO,GAB). You might as well improve your driving technique before you get a big power change. Once you get the SR, you'll have to adapt to the turbo kicking in when conering and the overall handling characteristics during the drift. If you improve technique before power, then you can adpat easier once the SR is in. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

[SR240DET]

..... so its settled.. im getting my suspension first... thanks for replying...

[negular]

"...and what not..."

[Yoshi]

Negular: u post whore <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> hehee

SR240DET:
Drifting requires GOOD HARD RACE suspension, don't expect to get good drifts going on sportlines and GR2's, you're going to have to go all out; STBs, sway bars and coils and more. You'll also need an LSD to pull off anything with any sort of grace. Don't forget the rubber, you're going to go through seriously COUNTLESS amounts of tires.

Drifting is EXPENSIVE! Be sure you REALLY want to make the jump. Drifting is NOT a race style, hell in the US it's not even a sport... it's a freestyle thing, much like surfing or snowboarding or skating; so you're investing a lot of money you're never going to see again in any form of trophy, purse, or sponsorship.

Lots of people here just rag on the driftstyle as "curb humping", because that's exactly what your car will do if you try to do it before you have your suspension setup.

Be Smart.
Know what you're getting into, and don't attempt to drive beyond your means, OR the car's.

Edit:
Just noticed your sig. &nbsp;I'm sure you already know, but just to be sure; Initial D is a cartoon. &nbsp;People that try things like the cartoon DIE. &nbsp;It's happened to countless stupid kids in Japan, and more than a handful in the US as well. &nbsp;Do NOT expect to be able to do the things seen there, and Especially don't even attempt it when just starting out. &nbsp;Crawl before you walk <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[sykikchimp]

I'm doing suspension, and other mods to support an SR first, then I'll do body.. &nbsp;then SR.. &nbsp;so..

[uuninja]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (negular @ July 01 2002,2:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"...and what not..."</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Wow looks like some one is working on their second star. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

Here is an idea SR240DET, save your money. If you are just starting out, you really don't need a crazy suspension setup. Not yet. It will just make your car less predictable. Lots of performance driving technique is counter intuitive. Stock cars are set up the way that they are for one reason. To be forgiving.

When people start out despite good intentions we all do all the wrong things behind the wheel. That is fine, it's just part of learning. Better to hear/feel your car getting in to trouble on stock suspension. Than having a full race suspension and learning the wonders of snap over steer the hard way. It is sort of like what Yoshi said "crawl before you walk". A more forgiving car means less dents. Once you have some experience under your belt then you should think about suspension. Turst me your mind will change a dozen time before you get to that point. No scene in buying suspension stuff now that you might "out grow" a year down the road. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

If you are serious about learning car control, there are tons of autocrosses, driving schools, and drift events(yeah yeah to each his own), where you can learn in a relatively safe controlled environment. Spend half of your car money there save the other half. I know the urge to start modding now is hard to fight but in six months you will be glad you did. Trust me. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

EDIT:grammar ain't my friend

[MikeFD3S]

uuninja &nbsp;is on the money... some cars are very forgiving to driver error....the more you mod it, the less forgiving it will be. &nbsp; You can't just throw yourself into an F1 and expect to be a Michael Schummacher...you have to learn the car gradually over time. &nbsp;If you're just starting out, get lots of practice and slightly stiffen up the chassis by getting some tower braces to balance your susp geometry...move on from there at your own pace

I will have to disagree with the snap oversteer thing tho... I think everyone needs to experience it at least once <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

[Yoshi]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MikeFD3S @ July 02 2002,1:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I will have to disagree with the snap oversteer thing tho... I think everyone needs to experience it at least once <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Ninja had some very interesting points I hadn't even contemplated. &nbsp;Doing well with the stock setup IS very important ... heh, so I guess it's:
first learn roll-over
then learn crawl
then learn walk
when a professional u can fly. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

I loved Mike's snap response tho. &nbsp;I over countersteered just last weekend and ended up backwards and killed the engine (don't ask). &nbsp;That learned me not to be so agressive REAL quick <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> haha &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

[SR240DET]

whoa... you guys have really good advice... but yeah yoshi i understand initialD is a cartoon.. and as of now i am taking baby steps.... im going to a open parking lot at night... with some cones i stole from my drivers ed course.. and im just trying to do what your doing in your sig.... &nbsp;thanks again guys..

[blink0r]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ July 02 2002,1:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Negular: u post whore <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> hehee

SR240DET:
Drifting requires GOOD HARD RACE suspension, don't expect to get good drifts going on sportlines and GR2's, you're going to have to go all out; STBs, sway bars and coils and more. You'll also need an LSD to pull off anything with any sort of grace. Don't forget the rubber, you're going to go through seriously COUNTLESS amounts of tires.

Drifting is EXPENSIVE! Be sure you REALLY want to make the jump. Drifting is NOT a race style, hell in the US it's not even a sport... it's a freestyle thing, much like surfing or snowboarding or skating; so you're investing a lot of money you're never going to see again in any form of trophy, purse, or sponsorship.

Lots of people here just rag on the driftstyle as "curb humping", because that's exactly what your car will do if you try to do it before you have your suspension setup.

Be Smart.
Know what you're getting into, and don't attempt to drive beyond your means, OR the car's.

Edit:
Just noticed your sig. I'm sure you already know, but just to be sure; Initial D is a cartoon. People that try things like the cartoon DIE. It's happened to countless stupid kids in Japan, and more than a handful in the US as well. Do NOT expect to be able to do the things seen there, and Especially don't even attempt it when just starting out. Crawl before you walk <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Couldn't have said it better myself! Wow! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[adey]

Just to reiterate what's already been said... (well, at least my opinion.) :

1) Suspension
2) SR
3) Dent.


Some may know that I had an unfortunate experience with the rear end of a mitsu Montero recently, which happened to wreck my left headlight. In that case, I'd get the body work done (at least the light) first, just so it's safe to drive around at night and at high speeds (the hood is bent too, and won't latch properly.) ... if it's just a dent, leave it.