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zubaz91
08-22-2006, 08:38 AM
my car is zenki s14, i have a s15 motor/turbo, s14 ECU, z32 MAFs, 480cc injectors, walbro fuel pump, S-AFC 2, profec bspec2, 3inch turbo back, etc.

i had my car dyno tuned yesterday and the results were very poor. something is wrong. the fuel curve and boost curve are quite steady and not abnormal at all.
The timing is set and was double checked. The plugs are gapped correctly and were brand new. you can hear the misfiring. theres alot of hesitation when u first step on the throttle too.

at 13psi, the car put down 150hp and 140lbs of torque. thats way too low for my setup, the guys showed me charts for a red top with about the same modifications as me and it made 220hp at the wheel. so s15 motor should put down 250 theoretically... not 150, right?

we are baffled. anyone have any ideas?

slider2828
08-24-2006, 02:38 AM
Why dyno it when you know there is hesitation... kinda a waste of money bro.... Secondly, I wouldn't care about fuel curve and boost curve... that is useless... You are at a dyno center, look at the AFR and see what is going on... that will tell you a lot.... Secondly on the tune, is it running any timing advance? Thirdly, check your CAS and see if it is still good.... Fourthly, Put a timing light on it at 2000rpm and see if it is steady or jumpy.....

zubaz91
08-24-2006, 06:15 AM
AFR is 11 across the band according to the wideband. timing was 15 and we advanced it to 18 or 19 to see if made a difference.. idle get a bit steadier and smoother but under boost it was still missing and there was no power there. another note, i pulled the plugs out and they were all white.. the wideband says rich and the plugs say lean. how can that happen?

slider2828
08-24-2006, 01:25 PM
Hmmm that isn't good.... Did you ever check your compression, but if you have access.... do a leak down test which is better.... Secondly an S14 SR ECU or S14KA ecu, secondly you have a S15 motorset, I think there are differences in the ECU as well.....

zubaz91
08-24-2006, 01:56 PM
s14 SR ECU.... since i originally bought a s14 front clip but the motor had a bad head so i just put a s15 long block/turbo in basically. all the wiring is still from the s14. are the sensors on the motor different at all? i was under the impression that the s15 and s14 motors were identical and just the turbo was different.

slider2828
08-25-2006, 02:12 AM
I t6hyink there is difference in the vtc or whatever....

srs14
08-25-2006, 11:59 AM
what did you gap the plugs to ? i would gap them to .045 if it still persist, try.02.

srs14
08-25-2006, 11:59 AM
what heat range are the plugs ? 6 or 7

zubaz91
08-25-2006, 12:12 PM
plugs are gapped at .028 i tried 6s and 7s

slider2828
08-25-2006, 10:53 PM
By any chance did you mess with the ignitor? Did you rewire it or anything?

RedtopTech
08-26-2006, 06:21 PM
the s15 motor uses 480cc injectors.
thats your problem

peterkim0121
08-26-2006, 06:36 PM
hopefuly its the sparkplug or... coil pack...