You all miss me?

[chickenmanq]

Well, it finally happened.  I'm feeling bad about it, but I own a HONDA!  Muwah ha ha ha!  Eleanor is being driven conservatively by the lady I sold her to.  Alberta, the 63 Ford, is running well, but will be sold shortly pending my revival of a 50 dollar Honda car.

Before you go nuts and get on my case, remember, I'm not going to stick a baffle on it and lower it.  More importantly, it's a 1981 Honda Accord Hatchback.

I reluctantly went to some Honda boards, and could not find any helpful information regarding these years because no one cares about modding them.  And most Honda info sights I ran into didn't know modifications from a hot rock.  The 81 Accord has nice old school styling.  If you can't remember, they almost look like a VW Golf, but much better.

So, I didn't have enough money to fab in a Nissan engine like originally planned, but I now have three EK18 engines and a manual tranny and an auto tranny in the garage.  That's right, no wussy 1.2, 1.3, or 1.5.  It has a nice 1.8 liter, and a curb weight of 2045 pounds.  Have to convert it from auto, but that's no biggee.  It has been giving me problems, mainly due to my stupidity.  I should have it running by this weekend though.

If it runs well enough, the Ford is being sold in case you old truck buffs want to buy it. &nbsp;(3100 obo.) &nbsp;So anyway, if I get the car running, I'm going to have two engines left in the garage, and I'm debating on making the leftover engine a two-stroke or just making it way powerful through bore and stroke, etc. &nbsp;I kinda think a two stroke 1800cc would grenade with heat. &nbsp;Any opinions? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;BESIDES I'm insane.

[DrDubbleB]

You're insane...

[bing]

who r u???

just another newbie???

j/k

[transient]

I like the look of the older honda's. A friend of mine had an accord hatch that she just sold. It was pretty nice, but it was FWD... So, 81, i'm guessing yours is FWD too? Please tell me i'm wrong <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>.

Anyway, congrats on thinking outside the box. Most people wouldn't go near a car like that, and by the sounds of the weight, you could have a pretty sweet car.

[my240likenoother]

dare to be different!!! you r nutz

[uiuc240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chickenmanq @ June 25 2002,6:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm debating on making the leftover engine a two-stroke</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
WTF? &nbsp;That's impossible. &nbsp;2 cycle engines have an entirely different valvetrain and everything (reed valves and no cams...etc). &nbsp;I'm pretty sure you're just kidding. &nbsp;But good luck with the project.

Eric

[wherezmytofu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chickenmanq @ June 24 2002,7:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, it finally happened. I'm feeling bad about it, but I own a HONDA! Muwah ha ha ha! Eleanor is being driven conservatively by the lady I sold her to. Alberta, the 63 Ford, is running well, but will be sold shortly pending my revival of a 50 dollar Honda car.

Before you go nuts and get on my case, remember, I'm not going to stick a baffle on it and lower it. More importantly, it's a 1981 Honda Accord Hatchback.

I reluctantly went to some Honda boards, and could not find any helpful information regarding these years because no one cares about modding them. And most Honda info sights I ran into didn't know modifications from a hot rock. The 81 Accord has nice old school styling. If you can't remember, they almost look like a VW Golf, but much better.

So, I didn't have enough money to fab in a Nissan engine like originally planned, but I now have three EK18 engines and a manual tranny and an auto tranny in the garage. That's right, no wussy 1.2, 1.3, or 1.5. It has a nice 1.8 liter, and a curb weight of 2045 pounds. Have to convert it from auto, but that's no biggee. It has been giving me problems, mainly due to my stupidity. I should have it running by this weekend though.

If it runs well enough, the Ford is being sold in case you old truck buffs want to buy it. (3100 obo.) So anyway, if I get the car running, I'm going to have two engines left in the garage, and I'm debating on making the leftover engine a two-stroke or just making it way powerful through bore and stroke, etc. I kinda think a two stroke 1800cc would grenade with heat. Any opinions? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> BESIDES I'm insane.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
wow the pos year accord....perfect.....herez an idea...didtnt us say u were gunna get a 240 aft er alberta?!?...get one! &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hmmm.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hmmm:'>

[chickenmanq]

Wow, the responses weren't as bad as I thought they were going to be. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

As far as a two stroker, if I find another cheap engine, I may attempt that. &nbsp;Figured I could do a custom cam and make it a two stroke. &nbsp;I might have other things to deal with, but I'm figuring I should be able to just put the cam lobes in different places and that's about all I would need to do to make it a two stroke? &nbsp;Only problem may be heat buildup. &nbsp;May just continually blow the head. &nbsp;It's probably impractical. &nbsp;Then again, who said I was practical?

As far as FWD, yes, it is. &nbsp;The horror. &nbsp;However, if I have it long enough, I may convert it to RWD and put a Nissan engine in it. &nbsp;I dig the styling of that year, so what the hell.

[ca18guy]

A 81' Accord is a point A to point B car. It's a waste to try and make it something it's not. Like buying an apple and trying to find a way to make it taste like an orange &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>

[sykikchimp]

You should build up one of those motors and boost it. &nbsp;that would be a fun project.

[boosteds14]

what is the world coming to.

jk. &nbsp;good luck

[TheTimanator]

Consider me dumb, but.....what exactly would converting an engine to a two stroker do?

[MasterOFDrift]

Insane.... j/k you seem like you know what you are doing. But it sounds crazy. Disappointed to hear you are not getting a 240 anymore...... but good luck on your accord [H]

[adey]

Wow. I don't know what the '81 exactly looks like, but if it's like any of the other accord hatches I've seen, it's not half bad. A little reminiscent of the oldish (mid '80s) Toyota hatches if I'm not mistaken.
... all I can say is that I applaud your originality and seemingly-counter-intuitive thinking. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp;Good luck, and hopefully at some point you'll get to pick up a 240/180/silvia.

[slow_accord]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TheTimanator @ June 26 2002,1:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Consider me dumb, but.....what exactly would converting an engine to a two stroker do?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
A 2 stroke is a really simple engine design that fires twice as much as a normal 4 stroke found in your car. &nbsp;So in theory, a 2 stroke is twice as powerful as a 4 stroke with the same displacement, but they're not used because they cause a lot of pollution, get crappy gas mileage, and don't last very long.

They also don't have cams like uiuc240 mentioned above. &nbsp;Instead they use a reed valve to let gas/air into the engine. &nbsp;The reed valve is at the bottom of the stroke of the piston and the exhaust is slightly above that, so the engine fires, pushes the piston down which lets the exhaust out first, then draws in gas/air from the reed valve below that, goes back up, explodes, repeats. &nbsp;I probably just confused everyone, but oh well. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

[sr20mofo]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (slow_accord @ June 26 2002,6<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I probably just confused everyone, but oh well. <!--emo&<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
nah u didnt confuse me *reading it over for the 5th time.. damnit!! still confused

[chickenmanq]

slow accord, thanks for the info. &nbsp;I was actually wrestling with how the 2 stroke worked as far as intake exhaust. &nbsp;I still wonder if I reconfigured the cam, would it essentially do the same thing, or is my logic flawed?

MasterofDrift, I may yet get a 240. &nbsp;Just can't afford one now. &nbsp;I have one more semester until I graduate the hellhole that is NAU.

ca18guy, Hey, didn't you know the 240 is a point A to point B car? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> &nbsp;In short, I don't care. &nbsp;Any car can be fun if you invest some time. &nbsp;It's got a solid feeling unibody, it's super light (2045 lbs). &nbsp;Right now, I've spent 280 bucks for two engines and a manual tranny for the car. &nbsp;Pretty damn cheap, and both engines are in good condition. &nbsp;Couple that with a 50 dollar price tag and I can verify spending 500 in engine mods because it won't matter if it breaks 'cause it's dirt cheap.

Eventually a bigger engine and some oddball suspension parts and it'll be contending with 240's. &nbsp;That of course is if I decide to stick a SOHC KA in it and covert it to RWD. &nbsp;Even FWD, I'll bet I can swing it around the corners and make it go over 110, thus leaving it NOT to be labeled a point A to point B car.

Even worse than having a point A to point B car is giving in to the stigma that that's all it can ever be.

[ca18guy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chickenmanq @ June 27 2002,12:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I know what you mean. Just I find it a waste of money that could be spent else where. You though like to keep your creative juices flowing. The way I look at it is I would build the car to be as reliable as possible, but your ummm different.

[slow_accord]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chickenmanq @ June 26 2002,6:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">slow accord, thanks for the info. I was actually wrestling with how the 2 stroke worked as far as intake exhaust. I still wonder if I reconfigured the cam, would it essentially do the same thing, or is my logic flawed?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
It might be possible, but you would have to make a custom distributor and a custom double sided cam for it work, even then, it wouldn't be a "true" 2-stroke design. The only other concern I would have is that the valvetrain might not be able to keep up since the valves would be opening/closing twice as much. I suppose some stiffer valve springs would help with that, but I'm still not sure how high you could rev it without the valves floating. Oh yeah, I'm guessing that you would need a massive cooling system because that thing is going to heat up quick. &nbsp;I am by no means an engine expert, so you might want to check around first before you start this project. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

edit: darn spelling errors

[sykikchimp]

is this kinda what it looks like??

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/generations/accord/77.honda.accord2drhatchback.350.jpg

[chickenmanq]

That's it. &nbsp;Mine looks a little sportier, I think color makes a difference on those models. &nbsp;Mine's baby blue, and it seems to make the fender flares stick out a little more.

Picture that with some KC lights and fire coming out the exhaust! &nbsp;I will make it go over 110.

Is that rear end filled up with junk? &nbsp;It seems too low. &nbsp;Mine sits with more space between the wheel wells.

[Yoshi]

wow, it almost looks like a 1st VW scirocco <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> hehee
WB mang.

[adey]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Yoshi @ June 27 2002,2:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wow, it almost looks like a 1st VW scirocco <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> hehee
WB mang.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
wow, good observation! I'm surprised I didn't pick up on that. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> &nbsp;A mix between a Mk. I Scirocco and rabbit/GTi.