Wheels sizes for my widebody!!

[ranger2339]

Ok i hope this is in the correct section!!

I have a s-13 coupe.

I am about to order my fenders but i need to know what sizes i would want (30MMf/50MMr OR 20MMf/30MMr?????
I am going to base that off the sizes/offsets of rims i would need to make it look and perform good!!

I am asking you guys for help here, i tryed to search and either didnt do it with the right key words or just found nothing (prob. the first one):)

The car is for drift and will have a LS1 engine with gobs of TQ and HP!!

I dont want to use spacers and i will custom order if i have to!!


Thanks
Josh

[TheTimanator]

To quote from another thread exactly like this one:
Questions that need to be answered before anyone makes a sugestion:
willing to strech tires? you may not want since your gonna have "gobs" of power
willing to run some negative camber?
are you slammed on coilovers?
what do you consider flush?-to answer this one, search the forums and look for S13's that have a wheel set-up you consider flush. The fenders have to be factory and rolled only, not pulled. Also, look at there tire sizing and camber as both could be more strecthed/agressive than what you want to run. Then take that info and put it into a offset calculator and figure out your new offset and/or width.

Ex. 17x9 +20 w/ a 215/40/17 are pretty flush with rolled fenders on S13's so with 20mm wider fenders 17x9 with a 0 offset should be pretty flush. Get the idea?

To help with your search checkout these threads:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=82859
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=44300

[ranger2339]

Thanks

I guess my question is for the guys with widefenders?? What size rims you have /offset etc??

I will be using 30mmf and 50mmr.....

Josh

[Edgar]

50mm in rear and 20mm up front

www.origin-lab.com
www.versionselect.com

I know you are on ClubFr too just check out the section in the Tech

[ranger2339]

Ok sounds like ill go with the 20mmf and 50mmr but i still would like to know what size wheels would fit that set up??

I have tanabe 7s and stopetech BBK!!!

Ill check club FR....

Josh

[redsuns3838]

theres a million variables bro. wheel diameter, offset, wheel width, tire width, sidewall height, camber, caster, ride height...
i dont think youve done nearly enough research. i think your best bet would be to look at the wheel thread in the chat. theres a thread thats like 30 something pages long of pics of ppls wheel setups with various info ie wheel/tire spec. just search thru it and youll probly get better answers than your going to on a thread like this.

looking good is a matter of personal opinion. performing...well how much HP are u running? thats my frirst question.

[koukimonster139]

i dont think youve done nearly enough research.

+1^

arggmsglength

[g6civcx]

30mm front, 50mm rear seems to be the widest you can get unless you go custom. You may also want to note that the rear widebody involves cutting off some metal from the fender so it's definitely not for those who care about appearance so much.

The rule about wheel diameter is as small as possible. Get wheels only as big as you need to clear the brake calipers. Bigger = heavier = more unsprung weight = you will take a big hit in performance.

Wheel width and offset play a huge role in handling and steering response as well. If you want some more rubber on the ground, you'll need to experiment with wider wheels and more extreme offsets to clear the suspension.

But you have to compromise since you may not be able to find tyres. Wheel and tyres are so complicated that they should really be set up for the individual car, driver, and application.


You may also want to check your local laws. Generally speaking, wheels that stick out beyond the verticle axis of the fender could be considered illegal for a street car.

[Rayne]

30mm front, 50mm rear seems to be the widest you can get unless you go custom.

Not really the widest. BN Sports has 50mm Fronts and 70mm Rears as well as 30mm F 50mm R

[Nismo240SX]

taking that calculation, so a 17x9 wheel with a -10 offset should be flush with a 30mm rear fender?

[TheTimanator]

taking that calculation, so a 17x9 wheel with a -10 offset should be flush with a 30mm rear fender?
on an S13 running the same tire size...215/40...theoretically, yes.

[g6civcx]

Not really the widest. BN Sports has 50mm Fronts and 70mm Rears as well as 30mm F 50mm R

I stand corrected. They seem really pricey though.

[Flybert]

30mm front, 50mm rear seems to be the widest you can get unless you go custom.

BN blister kit and it's not that expensive anymore.

You may also want to note that the rear widebody involves cutting off some metal from the fender so it's definitely not for those who care about appearance so much.

How is it not for people that care about appearances? You cut and cover it all up anyways and a lot of times, it looks better than stock because of the wider wheels. Definitely sounds like it's for people that care about appearances.

The rule about wheel diameter is as small as possible. Get wheels only as big as you need to clear the brake calipers. Bigger = heavier = more unsprung weight = you will take a big hit in performance.

Most rear brakes are smaller than fronts. I have never seen a race car that runs smaller diameter wheels out back.

But you have to compromise since you may not be able to find tyres. Wheel and tyres are so complicated that they should really be set up for the individual car, driver, and application.

Tire choice and rim choice isn't that complicated. You figure out what type of driving you want to do and you find out what kind of setups people have had success with. Done and done.

[ledzeppelin240]

Dam....Searching would answer your questions.

Here is a thread, scroll closer to the bottom and "impactred" did a couple test fits too fit 17x9" wide rims flush with 30mm and 50mm overfenders. There is also some good info there....

[ranger2339]

Hey guys thanks to some of you that helped answer some of my questions, i tryed to search and came up with nothing(hence this thread)...Yes i should search more......

Im going with the b-magic 30mmf and 50mmr, i know its not going to be cheap but im not on a tight budget so i dont care..

Ax

[redsuns3838]

you didnt search. if you typed in the world *wheel* in the search box you would have come up with like 6+ pages of results. u dont gotta lie to kick it man. just spend a lil tym searching. in the end PPl that dont search tend to also screw up a lot when they do shit to their car. its a general work ethic. ppl that do research end up with a quality product. ppl that just half ass it, well u get the point.

anyways if you typed in the word *wheel thread* you could have seen this on the first page.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=82859&highlight=wheel+thread
that sounds like it would be perfect for you.

note there is also another wheel thread that is a pic thread of wheels. use the advanced search to search in general chat so you dont have to clutter the search up with a bunch of for sale threads. etc.

goodluck.

[g6civcx]

Most rear brakes are smaller than fronts. I have never seen a race car that runs smaller diameter wheels out back.


This is very common on FWD cars, but you can't decide what to do by seeing what "race" cars do.

But I know nothing on this topic so there's nothing more to add.

[ledzeppelin240]

Hmmm...So no one found the thread yet...

Here it is:
http://www.zilvia.net/f//showthread.php?t=117036

[Nismo240SX]

on an S13 running the same tire size...215/40...theoretically, yes.

this is for the rear, i don't want streched tires in the rear. my fenders are rolled as we speak, my 30mm fenders aren't on. how would a 17x9 +35mm fit with a 235/45/17 ?

[TheTimanator]

this is for the rear, i don't want streched tires in the rear. my fenders are rolled as we speak, my 30mm fenders aren't on. how would a 17x9 +35mm fit with a 235/45/17 ?
that should fit without overfenders in the rear that is. You might even be able to run some wider tires. On the master guide for buying wheels thread, there is a guy running 17x10 +35 and 245's in the rear with only a rolled lip and 2.5 degrees of camber.